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g******s
发帖数: 211
1
Some of my playing partners can reach 115 mph without much efforts. That
means 250 ~270 yards off the tee box. With all-out swing, I may get to 100~
105 mph. I really want to add another 10 mph but just do not get it.
Any secret or suggestion?
v*****r
发帖数: 2325
2
250-270 means high 90 - mid 100 mph.
115 mph should get 300- 320 yard, as you saw on tv those top tier of pro
long hitters.
you have to ask youself how athletic you are (flexiblity and strength), this
limits your potential.
it usually takes long time and happens unexpectedly,
try to hit solid first, build a good swing.
then try to swing fast or "hard" 1/3 of your practice swings.

【在 g******s 的大作中提到】
: Some of my playing partners can reach 115 mph without much efforts. That
: means 250 ~270 yards off the tee box. With all-out swing, I may get to 100~
: 105 mph. I really want to add another 10 mph but just do not get it.
: Any secret or suggestion?

g******s
发帖数: 211
3
I used a medicus power meter for all the measurement with a standand driver.
It is easy to do and very consistent even though the absolute number may
need to be calibrated. I guess what really count is the relative number --
I need to figure out that extra 10 mph without breaking my back.
t***u
发帖数: 2057
4
想起到local store 测速,82mph , 掩面而去。
v***s
发帖数: 4031
5
Building a consistant and repeatable golf swing, instead of just increasing
the club head speed, will help you drive the ball long and score low.

【在 g******s 的大作中提到】
: Some of my playing partners can reach 115 mph without much efforts. That
: means 250 ~270 yards off the tee box. With all-out swing, I may get to 100~
: 105 mph. I really want to add another 10 mph but just do not get it.
: Any secret or suggestion?

g******s
发帖数: 211
6
BTW, 115mph won't reach 300 yards, based on this article:
http://swingmangolf.com/index.asp
g******s
发帖数: 211
7
I have a "fairly" consistant and repeatable swing. Just want to add 10 mph
on top of it. My goal is 115 mph as all-out maximum, so that the actual
driving will be 100~105 mph.

increasing

【在 v***s 的大作中提到】
: Building a consistant and repeatable golf swing, instead of just increasing
: the club head speed, will help you drive the ball long and score low.

v***s
发帖数: 4031
8
May I ask what your average driving distance is?
I drive the ball at a club head speed of 90 to 100 MPH,and my average carry
distance is about 220 yds.

mph

【在 g******s 的大作中提到】
: I have a "fairly" consistant and repeatable swing. Just want to add 10 mph
: on top of it. My goal is 115 mph as all-out maximum, so that the actual
: driving will be 100~105 mph.
:
: increasing

g******s
发帖数: 211
9
Not sure of the carry distance only. My total driving distance (carry +
roll) is about 220~240 yds.

carry

【在 v***s 的大作中提到】
: May I ask what your average driving distance is?
: I drive the ball at a club head speed of 90 to 100 MPH,and my average carry
: distance is about 220 yds.
:
: mph

v*****r
发帖数: 2325
10
the most authorative site is
http://www.pgatour.com/r/stats/info/?02409
you can check club head speed vs. carry distance (random roll distance not
considered).
115 mph club head with solid 9degree driver hit roughly average 275 yard
carry in average conditions.
with roll, 115 mph swinger get 300+ yard drive 22% probably, 1 out of 4.
a simple formula is 100 mph swinger, 300 - (115-100)*3 = 255 yard.
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g******s
发帖数: 211
11
115 mph is a lofty goal, indeed. Medicus power meter reading maybe
misleading.
The more relavant question is: How to improve club head speed 10 mph more?
LOL

【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: the most authorative site is
: http://www.pgatour.com/r/stats/info/?02409
: you can check club head speed vs. carry distance (random roll distance not
: considered).
: 115 mph club head with solid 9degree driver hit roughly average 275 yard
: carry in average conditions.
: with roll, 115 mph swinger get 300+ yard drive 22% probably, 1 out of 4.
: a simple formula is 100 mph swinger, 300 - (115-100)*3 = 255 yard.

A*f
发帖数: 3067
12
first improve your flexibility and strength
then find the best swing to swing it very efficiently
easy said than done

【在 g******s 的大作中提到】
: 115 mph is a lofty goal, indeed. Medicus power meter reading maybe
: misleading.
: The more relavant question is: How to improve club head speed 10 mph more?
: LOL

p****4
发帖数: 517
13
I got 108 on a medicus power meter without hitting a ball. I was not sure
where my club head speed max out when I did that.
The max club head speed is the hardest swing you can do while still hitting
the ball with the sweet spot of your drive. I can reach 250 yards with a mid
-90 swing speed. The key is to hit the sweet spot, the speed will come
natually.

【在 g******s 的大作中提到】
: 115 mph is a lofty goal, indeed. Medicus power meter reading maybe
: misleading.
: The more relavant question is: How to improve club head speed 10 mph more?
: LOL

q******3
发帖数: 622
14
我觉得这是大家在混淆club head speed跟swing speed。这两个很不一样。
技术好的,不用swing speed很高,但是club head speed跟ball speed很高,ratio很
高。
g******s
发帖数: 211
15
Is there a way to measure swing speed?

【在 q******3 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得这是大家在混淆club head speed跟swing speed。这两个很不一样。
: 技术好的,不用swing speed很高,但是club head speed跟ball speed很高,ratio很
: 高。

g******s
发帖数: 211
16
Uh, in this article, the term "swing speed" is used to represent "club head
speed" for the measurement:
http://swingmangolf.com/index.asp
Anyhow, I understand what you mean. Take Fred Couple or El Ernies as example
. Their swing looks slow, but their club head speed is not really slow.
v*****r
发帖数: 2325
17
swing speed/club head speed is more for technician.
其实看carry distance (CD) 不就可以了吗?
downwind, true CD 减 wind speed * 2 yard
headwind, true CD 加 wind speed * 2 yard
250 yard carry => 105 mph club head speed at impact
club head speed 差1mph, carry 差 3 yard.
driver carry sometimes hard to measure.
5iron/hybrid carry 190-200 roughly ---> driver can carry 250 - 270

【在 g******s 的大作中提到】
: Is there a way to measure swing speed?
v*****r
发帖数: 2325
18
interesting.
last time i tested my 3wood at LM, got some high 80 and low 100 mph within 5
min period.
i was wondering how it could differ so much, because i did not feel the time
i complete a swing differed much, or the pulling force by the club differed
so much.
Guess it is THE RELEASE, where the club head speed max out matters a lot.

hitting
mid

【在 p****4 的大作中提到】
: I got 108 on a medicus power meter without hitting a ball. I was not sure
: where my club head speed max out when I did that.
: The max club head speed is the hardest swing you can do while still hitting
: the ball with the sweet spot of your drive. I can reach 250 yards with a mid
: -90 swing speed. The key is to hit the sweet spot, the speed will come
: natually.

v*****r
发帖数: 2325
19
108mph club head speed is very impressive.
my guess is that it is not that simple you just time your 108mph a bit early
, so you get 108mph at impact, so we immediately gain, say 6-8mph.
don't forget the ball has to be hit with an accelerating club head.
so without ball, you get max speed some where after impact is normal.

hitting
mid

【在 p****4 的大作中提到】
: I got 108 on a medicus power meter without hitting a ball. I was not sure
: where my club head speed max out when I did that.
: The max club head speed is the hardest swing you can do while still hitting
: the ball with the sweet spot of your drive. I can reach 250 yards with a mid
: -90 swing speed. The key is to hit the sweet spot, the speed will come
: natually.

q******3
发帖数: 622
20
golf店里的机器这些数据都有。

【在 g******s 的大作中提到】
: Is there a way to measure swing speed?
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A*f
发帖数: 3067
21
yeah.
i checked back the post i posted for my driving stat.
mine was average around 100mph. the total distance was easily 260-270.
108mph, with right hit, should be around 290 with total distance.

early

【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: 108mph club head speed is very impressive.
: my guess is that it is not that simple you just time your 108mph a bit early
: , so you get 108mph at impact, so we immediately gain, say 6-8mph.
: don't forget the ball has to be hit with an accelerating club head.
: so without ball, you get max speed some where after impact is normal.
:
: hitting
: mid

g******s
发帖数: 211
22
Club head speed is obvious the main contributor, the raw power for CD. Also
it is a lot easier to measure, whether with the ball or not, dead on or
total miss. It is something we can try in the garage or backyard.

【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: swing speed/club head speed is more for technician.
: 其实看carry distance (CD) 不就可以了吗?
: downwind, true CD 减 wind speed * 2 yard
: headwind, true CD 加 wind speed * 2 yard
: 250 yard carry => 105 mph club head speed at impact
: club head speed 差1mph, carry 差 3 yard.
: driver carry sometimes hard to measure.
: 5iron/hybrid carry 190-200 roughly ---> driver can carry 250 - 270

g******s
发帖数: 211
23
If you use medicus power meter, I bet your max-out swing will be 110 and
above...

【在 A*f 的大作中提到】
: yeah.
: i checked back the post i posted for my driving stat.
: mine was average around 100mph. the total distance was easily 260-270.
: 108mph, with right hit, should be around 290 with total distance.
:
: early

a***x
发帖数: 398
24
如果你的swing比较稳定,一个比较快的增加club head speed的方法是换个轻一点儿的
球杆。我改用TM的RBZ后,增加了5MPH的速度,CARRY长了15-20码。CLUB HEAD 都是
460CC的, RBZ的球杆才48克,比我原来的srixon fujikura球杆少了12克。
当然,根本的还是要增加身体的力量和柔韧性。另外身体在swing过程中的balance也重
要,因为club head speed不完全决定CD,还有一个smash factor,决定你club head的
能量的传递效率,balance好了,MAX out swing speed 才有效。练练练。
p****4
发帖数: 517
25
108mph is pretty impressive, but useless to me since I can never swing that
hard in the real play. Focusing on hitting the sweet spot, speed and
distance come natually. That's the point I was trying to make.

early

【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: 108mph club head speed is very impressive.
: my guess is that it is not that simple you just time your 108mph a bit early
: , so you get 108mph at impact, so we immediately gain, say 6-8mph.
: don't forget the ball has to be hit with an accelerating club head.
: so without ball, you get max speed some where after impact is normal.
:
: hitting
: mid

v*****r
发帖数: 2325
26
这些装置估计跟LM 一样, 一般需要调, so called calibration.
根据说明书调好以后才准一些。
有球没球差别大。 我刚学 golf 做不少空挥, 现在不做了。 现在空挥慢速用来热身。
可以right handed swing, left handed 都做, 帮助 balance right/left
body joint mobility.

【在 g******s 的大作中提到】
: If you use medicus power meter, I bet your max-out swing will be 110 and
: above...

g******s
发帖数: 211
27
It is very meaningful. it is THE BIG DEAL :)
Let's say our all-out swing speed is Vmax and we only uses 90% Vmax for the
actual tee off.
The naked math, the guy with Vmax 110 will overdrive 30 yards over the guy
with Vmax 100.
The hidden truth, the guy with Vmax 110 is more likely swing correctly. His
swing peaks more close to the contact point for a more effecient energy
transfer. For the guy Vmax is only 90, his swing peak will most likely too
early or too late, not at the bottom. The end result can be dramatically
different.

that

【在 p****4 的大作中提到】
: 108mph is pretty impressive, but useless to me since I can never swing that
: hard in the real play. Focusing on hitting the sweet spot, speed and
: distance come natually. That's the point I was trying to make.
:
: early

g******s
发帖数: 211
28
I had one range session last night to backup my claim, so that i am not
talking about theory or imagination.
After warmup, my driver was in the middle 90s. The ball fly is not bad. But
i was determined to treak it and see how deep i can reach. There are a
couple of things I intentionally focused on:
- keep both feets grounded as long as possible, until the contact is over.
- full shoulder turn
- reach back, as much as i can
- slight flex the left arm (not too rigid).
Yes, 110 is no longer a dream. And ball sails for a long time, straight down
.


the
His

【在 g******s 的大作中提到】
: It is very meaningful. it is THE BIG DEAL :)
: Let's say our all-out swing speed is Vmax and we only uses 90% Vmax for the
: actual tee off.
: The naked math, the guy with Vmax 110 will overdrive 30 yards over the guy
: with Vmax 100.
: The hidden truth, the guy with Vmax 110 is more likely swing correctly. His
: swing peaks more close to the contact point for a more effecient energy
: transfer. For the guy Vmax is only 90, his swing peak will most likely too
: early or too late, not at the bottom. The end result can be dramatically
: different.

g******s
发帖数: 211
29
Played a round in the morning today. My driver did not meet the higher
expectation. During warm-up on the range, I could only get my normal swing
speed, mid 90s. That set the tone for the whole day. Game as usual. Not even
one drive reached 100 mph.
So it is good to get it on the range for one day, but it is a whole differnt
level to have it on the course, on demand.
p****4
发帖数: 517
30
Just curious, how do you know the swing speed during a round?

even
differnt

【在 g******s 的大作中提到】
: Played a round in the morning today. My driver did not meet the higher
: expectation. During warm-up on the range, I could only get my normal swing
: speed, mid 90s. That set the tone for the whole day. Game as usual. Not even
: one drive reached 100 mph.
: So it is good to get it on the range for one day, but it is a whole differnt
: level to have it on the course, on demand.
:

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g******s
发帖数: 211
31
I just leave it attached to the driver for most of the holes for the instant
feedback.
Here is an image from the vendor, not a commercial pitch...
http://www.medicuspowermeter.com/special_offer_bogo.php?sid=518

【在 p****4 的大作中提到】
: Just curious, how do you know the swing speed during a round?
:
: even
: differnt

p****4
发帖数: 517
32
Maybe you should go to a local golf store and have them measure the swing
weight of your driver with and without the power meter. Personally I do not
think it is a good idea to have it attached during the play.

instant

【在 g******s 的大作中提到】
: I just leave it attached to the driver for most of the holes for the instant
: feedback.
: Here is an image from the vendor, not a commercial pitch...
: http://www.medicuspowermeter.com/special_offer_bogo.php?sid=518

g******s
发帖数: 211
33
Ya looked a bit odd at the beginning :) It was a casual, friendly game. No
one is bothered as everyone is busy chasing his own ball.
Self diagnostics, I feel i lost the power due to early release. Wrist not
capable to hold back the angle to late stage in down swing. Personally, I
favor exercise with legs not arms (such as running, soccer,etc.). I need to
build up some more strength for the upper body. There is no quick fix to
this.

not

【在 p****4 的大作中提到】
: Maybe you should go to a local golf store and have them measure the swing
: weight of your driver with and without the power meter. Personally I do not
: think it is a good idea to have it attached during the play.
:
: instant

v***s
发帖数: 4031
34
Do you know about the smash factor on your swing? You don't have to generate
a very fast club head speed and having a good smash factor, you still can
hit the ball long as an amature.

instant

【在 g******s 的大作中提到】
: I just leave it attached to the driver for most of the holes for the instant
: feedback.
: Here is an image from the vendor, not a commercial pitch...
: http://www.medicuspowermeter.com/special_offer_bogo.php?sid=518

v*****r
发帖数: 2325
35
try some basic exercise when we were in high school, they don't need much
equipment.
such as pull up, push up. you can do pull up with leg raised to engage core. or
push up hold as long as possible, or plank, for core. for rational strength, you
can some try skater rotation jumps. if you can pull up 17 reps in a row, you
will never find wrist/arm strength giving you any problem. besides this, try golf
swing without ball, but very slow speed, use it as a stretch or stability
exercise. you can see pro on TV , a lot of them do slow speed swing before shot.
running and soccer is good. but depends on your age, soccer is young man'
game, tough on knees and high probably of contact injuries. that's what i
like about golf, which is gentlemen or old man's game in beautiful and
relaxing setting. one benefits of staying in USA is convenience to play golf
compared to China where golf is ultra luxury and exclusive.

No
to

【在 g******s 的大作中提到】
: Ya looked a bit odd at the beginning :) It was a casual, friendly game. No
: one is bothered as everyone is busy chasing his own ball.
: Self diagnostics, I feel i lost the power due to early release. Wrist not
: capable to hold back the angle to late stage in down swing. Personally, I
: favor exercise with legs not arms (such as running, soccer,etc.). I need to
: build up some more strength for the upper body. There is no quick fix to
: this.
:
: not

g******s
发帖数: 211
36
I can not even make 5 pull ups -- enough to tell the story.
For the sake of golf, I am motivated to add pull up and push ups to the
daily routine :)

core. or
strength, you
you
try golf
shot.

【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: try some basic exercise when we were in high school, they don't need much
: equipment.
: such as pull up, push up. you can do pull up with leg raised to engage core. or
: push up hold as long as possible, or plank, for core. for rational strength, you
: can some try skater rotation jumps. if you can pull up 17 reps in a row, you
: will never find wrist/arm strength giving you any problem. besides this, try golf
: swing without ball, but very slow speed, use it as a stretch or stability
: exercise. you can see pro on TV , a lot of them do slow speed swing before shot.
: running and soccer is good. but depends on your age, soccer is young man'
: game, tough on knees and high probably of contact injuries. that's what i

f*t
发帖数: 382
37
I totally agree.
Your max swing speed is depends on your physical ability. It hard to
increase assume you have a good swing already. It's more tend to decrease
because we are getting older. But swing instruction can help based on my
experience.
There is another key index is smach factor. Which is the ball speed/club
head speed. it can be range from 1.3 to 1.65 depends on where you hit the
ball on your club face, attack angle etc. You can calculation what's the
difference it can make.
So, as said with a give swing speed, try to focus on the sweet spot is the
right way for everyone.

that

【在 p****4 的大作中提到】
: 108mph is pretty impressive, but useless to me since I can never swing that
: hard in the real play. Focusing on hitting the sweet spot, speed and
: distance come natually. That's the point I was trying to make.
:
: early

f*t
发帖数: 382
38
BTW, do not trust distance on LM in store, it can be calibred to any number
to better sale the clubs.
Even the driving range put distance signs closer.
Laser range finder are the most accurate
then GPS such as SGX
then driving range signs validated by laser
the last is the golf simulator.
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