T******g 发帖数: 21328 | 1 比方栓动步枪之类的。个人是没有这个习惯的,但是看到网上有人这么搞,是不是对提
高精度有帮助? |
f*********n 发帖数: 11154 | 2 比较流行的一种说法是刚开始的20发应该打一发清理一下枪膛。
具体效果如何,有不同的看法。我觉得每次打靶回来清理就够了。 |
f****a 发帖数: 4708 | |
T******g 发帖数: 21328 | 4 哈哈,又看到一个break-in笑话
"Properly breaking in your new car's engine: Start the car. Run five minutes
. Turn car off. Drain oil, replace oil filter and refill oil. Drive 5 miles.
Turn car off, replace oil & filter . Replace air filter and spark plugs.
Drive car 10 miles. Replace oil & filter. Replace PCV valve and
fuel filter. Empty & refill tires. Drain/refill gas tank. Drive car 50 miles |
j***n 发帖数: 3786 | 5 1rd> Clean
3rds> Clean
5rds> Clean
10rds> Clean
20rds> Clean
http://www.noveskerifleworks.com/care/ |
C*******d 发帖数: 15836 | 6 你这不是要笑死我么?
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C*******d 发帖数: 15836 | 7 LOL
minutes
miles.
miles
in
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】 : 哈哈,又看到一个break-in笑话 : "Properly breaking in your new car's engine: Start the car. Run five minutes : . Turn car off. Drain oil, replace oil filter and refill oil. Drive 5 miles. : Turn car off, replace oil & filter . Replace air filter and spark plugs. : Drive car 10 miles. Replace oil & filter. Replace PCV valve and : fuel filter. Empty & refill tires. Drain/refill gas tank. Drive car 50 miles
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l***a 发帖数: 2677 | 8 看看GAP这个break-in and cleaning guide
http://www.gaprecision.net/ga-precision-download.html
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】 : 比方栓动步枪之类的。个人是没有这个习惯的,但是看到网上有人这么搞,是不是对提 : 高精度有帮助?
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h*********r 发帖数: 1943 | 9 同样的做法有些枪break in以后精度上升了,但是也有不少精度没变化甚至下降的,我
从来不break in。因为反正在靶场一次也打不了多少发,回家再擦也没事 |
l***a 发帖数: 2677 | 10 为什么有些枪break in以后精度会下降?
【在 h*********r 的大作中提到】 : 同样的做法有些枪break in以后精度上升了,但是也有不少精度没变化甚至下降的,我 : 从来不break in。因为反正在靶场一次也打不了多少发,回家再擦也没事
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h*********r 发帖数: 1943 | 11 不知道,确实有些半自动需要磨合才能正常工作,不过个人觉得栓动break in更加像是
个都市传说 |
z**********3 发帖数: 155 | 12 其实网上有些人认为 break-in 就是use hard 我个人觉得刚开始要用QC比较好的子弹
磨合好后再用一些非常规或者便宜子弹
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】 : 比方栓动步枪之类的。个人是没有这个习惯的,但是看到网上有人这么搞,是不是对提 : 高精度有帮助?
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j***n 发帖数: 3786 | 13 Precision rifle needs break in
30 rounds is a fair number for break in~~~ |
h*********r 发帖数: 1943 | 14 http://www.snipercountry.com/articles/barrel_breakin_II.asp
以前看到这篇文章就记住了
高度精加工的精密赛管做break in就算不伤寿命也没必要
说老实话我没见过美国以外出产高精度栓动的厂家在网站或者说明书上说break in的,
至少Sako和AI的说明书上应该是没有写,难道美国产的东西体质特殊,不仅要打各种
bedding补丁还要break in才能正常工作?如果这样为什么还买美国枪?
还是:break in伤管子寿命之后让这些管子加工厂能多卖点东西? |
j***n 发帖数: 3786 | 15 who wrote this article???? Why u even bother to read it???
【在 h*********r 的大作中提到】 : http://www.snipercountry.com/articles/barrel_breakin_II.asp : 以前看到这篇文章就记住了 : 高度精加工的精密赛管做break in就算不伤寿命也没必要 : 说老实话我没见过美国以外出产高精度栓动的厂家在网站或者说明书上说break in的, : 至少Sako和AI的说明书上应该是没有写,难道美国产的东西体质特殊,不仅要打各种 : bedding补丁还要break in才能正常工作?如果这样为什么还买美国枪? : 还是:break in伤管子寿命之后让这些管子加工厂能多卖点东西?
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h*********r 发帖数: 1943 | 16 Because this is not the only article that reveals so-called 'break in a
precision rifle' by cleaning the barrel like a hysterical wowser after each
several shots is totally bullshit.
What is the scientific basis for this kind of 'barrel break in'? I can't see
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f*****u 发帖数: 729 | 17 LOL, 这枪真可怜
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j***n 发帖数: 3786 | 18 after u shot enough new rifles and talked with real Pros, u won't say this
http://www.gaprecision.net/ga-precision-download.html
Read this through, they are the people make great rifle. They are the real pro here
each
see
【在 h*********r 的大作中提到】 : Because this is not the only article that reveals so-called 'break in a : precision rifle' by cleaning the barrel like a hysterical wowser after each : several shots is totally bullshit. : What is the scientific basis for this kind of 'barrel break in'? I can't see : any.
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h*********r 发帖数: 1943 | 19 I'll insist my opinion until I see truly strong result and resonable theory
for such kind of 'barrel break in'. Unfortunately, so far it's just nonsense
to clean the barrel throughly after just firing each or several rounds. Why
don't these guys clean the barrel after each shot from the beginning till
the end of the barrel life? Hop or other cleanser manufacturers will be more
than happy to see such a customer.
Pros? I doubt any so-called authority without creditable scientific
explanation.
pro here
【在 j***n 的大作中提到】 : after u shot enough new rifles and talked with real Pros, u won't say this : http://www.gaprecision.net/ga-precision-download.html : Read this through, they are the people make great rifle. They are the real pro here : : each : see
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h*********r 发帖数: 1943 | 20 And this article doesn't give any reason on why there is huge copper fouling
in the first 30 rounds and why after washing out all these fouling the rate
of checking copper fouling instantly became around 200 or so. Which sounds
like something inside the bore will peeling copper off the bullet and will
be removed by the break in progress, leaving the result either good or bad
to the total accuracy since the texture of the bore has changed from the
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q**u 发帖数: 12289 | 21 有关这个的文章看得太多了,“专家”也听得太多了,真是公说公有理婆说婆有理,任
何一个forum都是一提这个话题就吵个
没完,最后小范围内达成协议,列入月经话题,以后禁止讨论。需要不需要break in,
我觉得答案就三个字:
有争议
说啥别的都是多余。
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】 : 比方栓动步枪之类的。个人是没有这个习惯的,但是看到网上有人这么搞,是不是对提 : 高精度有帮助?
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f**s 发帖数: 2225 | 22 枪老板的AI AWM break in了吗?manual上怎么说的?
pro here
【在 j***n 的大作中提到】 : after u shot enough new rifles and talked with real Pros, u won't say this : http://www.gaprecision.net/ga-precision-download.html : Read this through, they are the people make great rifle. They are the real pro here : : each : see
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a***a 发帖数: 8941 | 23 这个枪是Kimber?
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x*7 发帖数: 11281 | 24 那位zkss这个break in的原理?给新手科普一下 |
h*********r 发帖数: 1943 | 25 就是有人相信栓动新枪入手每打几发甚至一发就要彻底清洁,直到几十上百发之后再正
常射击,据他们说能提高精度如何如何
如果有科学的解释和确实可靠的成效那自然应该科普
问题是两个都没有
有部分人这样弄过以后宣称精度甚至变差了
于是这帮人和break in以后号称精度变好的另一小撮家伙到处对掐
大多数人观望,有些不懂有些不信还有些怀着宁可信其有不可信其无的心态就这么稀里
糊涂break in了。总的说来这件事情和请巫婆跳大神治病或者占卜一样,没有科学解释
,有人信也有人不信,对掐有些是家里人被跳死还有些跳完以后莫名其妙自己痊愈的。
相信栓动要break in的集中在美国部分枪匠及其忠实顾客群里面,据我所知AI、Sako和
Steyr之类欧洲栓的说明书从来没写过什么break in的事情。该怎么艹就怎么艹,上台
架照样打高精度组 |