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C*******r
发帖数: 10345
1
Post View (华盛顿邮报社论, 不是普通评论)
Gun control at center of Tucson shooting case
By Editorial Board, Friday, November 9, 7:05 PM
JARED L. LOUGHNER was the one being sentenced for last year’s shooting
rampage that left six people dead and 13 wounded. But some of the strongest
words of condemnation at his federal sentencing hearing were directed —
deservedly so — at the country’s political leaders for their cowardly
refusal to debate, let alone deal with, gun violence.
As Mr. Loughner awaited sentencing Thursday for the shooting spree in a
Tucson shopping center parking lot that targeted and critically injured
Gabrielle Giffords, the former congresswoman’s husband delivered a stinging
denouncement of the failure to enact meaningful gun control. Mark Kelly’s
powerful words bear repeating:
“We have a political class that is afraid to do something as simple as have
a meaningful debate about our gun laws and how they are being enforced. We
have representatives who look at gun violence not as a problem to solve but
as the white elephant in the room to ignore. As a nation we have repeatedly
passed up the opportunity to address this issue. After Columbine; after
Virginia Tech; after Tucson and after Aurora we have done nothing.”
U.S. District Court Judge Larry A. Burns, who sentenced the 24-year-old
defendant to the seven consecutive life terms plus 140 years in prison that
was a condition of his guilty plea agreement, expressed wonder at allowing
the unrestricted sale of high-capacity magazines like the one Mr. Loughner
used. Judge Burns was careful to note that he was just “a single federal
judge” who had “no intention to change the law.” But the decision by
state and national figures to go AWOL on gun control in fear of what they
perceive to be the powerful clout of the national gun lobby leaves this
critical public safety issue unaddressed.
Consider that the recently concluded presidential campaign barely heard
mention of gun violence; it came up only in a single question at a
presidential debate that essentially went unanswered. Arizona Gov. Jan
Brewer (R), whom Mr. Kelly called out for “feckless” leadership on gun
control, responded that it would be inappropriate to engage in politics on
the solemn occasion of justice to the victims of the Tucson shooting being
meted out. It’s a common politicians’ dodge, used whenever a mass shooting
occurs and they don’t want to be put on the spot about the need for
rational gun regulation.
Examination by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence of spending by the
National Rifle Association in the 2012 elections showed that, of the $11.8
million spent to defeat President Obama and $3.4 million across six key
Senate races — 88 percent of its federal independent expenditures — the
gun lobby could claim no victories; all of its candidates lost. This
evidence that the association’s ability to influence elections may be
exaggerated should stiffen the spines of Mr. Obama and congressional leaders
to take on this important issue — before another person touched by gun
violence has to stand up in court to offer words about the horrors of loss.
w*****o
发帖数: 1806
2
造势开始,如伊朗无人机事件一般? 美国要同时开国内国外两条战线
E********t
发帖数: 2447
3
WP my ass

strongest

【在 C*******r 的大作中提到】
: Post View (华盛顿邮报社论, 不是普通评论)
: Gun control at center of Tucson shooting case
: By Editorial Board, Friday, November 9, 7:05 PM
: JARED L. LOUGHNER was the one being sentenced for last year’s shooting
: rampage that left six people dead and 13 wounded. But some of the strongest
: words of condemnation at his federal sentencing hearing were directed —
: deservedly so — at the country’s political leaders for their cowardly
: refusal to debate, let alone deal with, gun violence.
: As Mr. Loughner awaited sentencing Thursday for the shooting spree in a
: Tucson shopping center parking lot that targeted and critically injured

T*R
发帖数: 36302
4
这是在给军火商做广告。
GOP控制国会,什么都不可能通过。还有高院这一关。
X***R
发帖数: 2410
5
这边好像在讨论大麻合法化
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Military/38707963.html
里剥肉在年轻人中推行禁枪,吸毒,Gay 合法化, 再强壮的公牛也会变成一堆枯骨
S**********s
发帖数: 4534
6
就怕奥黑提拔liberal法官
NRA这回挺失败的, 诸多位置推举的候选人都没选上

【在 T*R 的大作中提到】
: 这是在给军火商做广告。
: GOP控制国会,什么都不可能通过。还有高院这一关。

C*******r
发帖数: 10345
7
读者请注意,这种editorial board(编辑部)文章,是代表WaPo的观点的。一般客座
评论员文章不一定代表WaPo的观点。WaPo在endorse鳌八时,就是editorial board文章
,现在鳌八冻蒜了,只有三天,就有要求禁枪的文章。
本人认为,WaPo的根本目的是不可告人的,本质是要逐步推行以鳌八为首的暴力专制。
T*R
发帖数: 36302
8
提了也不能推翻原来的判决,只能从别的角度解释。

【在 S**********s 的大作中提到】
: 就怕奥黑提拔liberal法官
: NRA这回挺失败的, 诸多位置推举的候选人都没选上

S**********s
发帖数: 4534
9
那是, 但以后还有很多重要的官司要打, 比如全国承认的CCW...不通过的话, 加州
枪民就永无翻身之地了。
c*****y
发帖数: 5747
10
不相信有人会做到全国范围的彻底禁枪。
整个AK出来也算给美国军火商清除异己!
别忘记,
石油商,军火商,金融寡头揍是那么一拨人在控制着美国经济(甚至全球)。
只是不同的集团,子公司,控股公司而已。
别忘记俺说过的,
政治离开金钱,
那揍是寒冷冬夜穿着超短裙站在大街上的一个待客妓女。
你脚着她能活下去吗!
呵呵!
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n****e
发帖数: 6292
11
外加不用养娃,不用工作,一个大政府从老养到小

【在 X***R 的大作中提到】
: 这边好像在讨论大麻合法化
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Military/38707963.html
: 里剥肉在年轻人中推行禁枪,吸毒,Gay 合法化, 再强壮的公牛也会变成一堆枯骨

h*********2
发帖数: 2508
12

奥八显然是权力集团的得意人选,多少人因为他丢了性命,现在连CIA老大都辞职为了
保他

【在 C*******r 的大作中提到】
: 读者请注意,这种editorial board(编辑部)文章,是代表WaPo的观点的。一般客座
: 评论员文章不一定代表WaPo的观点。WaPo在endorse鳌八时,就是editorial board文章
: ,现在鳌八冻蒜了,只有三天,就有要求禁枪的文章。
: 本人认为,WaPo的根本目的是不可告人的,本质是要逐步推行以鳌八为首的暴力专制。

X***R
发帖数: 2410
13
坐吃空山。
一般来讲,这样的结果就是中产阶层逐渐消失。
因为中产者想,既然这么难,何必为中产,索性收入降低一些让政府养着不也是挺好,
也不工作,也不养娃,逍遥自在。
这其中没有复杂的政治逻辑,就如同小时候一群小孩玩游戏一样,开始都好好的,
然后突然有一两个人跳出来耍赖,
于是其他小朋友们看到吃了亏,就都开始耍赖,而且比谁能更加无耻,哈哈哈哈哈

【在 n****e 的大作中提到】
: 外加不用养娃,不用工作,一个大政府从老养到小
X***R
发帖数: 2410
14
难说,因为军火商一旦接受大量政府订单,就不用 Care 小额买卖。
就如同卖芯片和操作系统的那些公司,有很大一部分利润来源于政府采购,而不是PC
零售。

【在 c*****y 的大作中提到】
: 不相信有人会做到全国范围的彻底禁枪。
: 整个AK出来也算给美国军火商清除异己!
: 别忘记,
: 石油商,军火商,金融寡头揍是那么一拨人在控制着美国经济(甚至全球)。
: 只是不同的集团,子公司,控股公司而已。
: 别忘记俺说过的,
: 政治离开金钱,
: 那揍是寒冷冬夜穿着超短裙站在大街上的一个待客妓女。
: 你脚着她能活下去吗!
: 呵呵!

S**********s
发帖数: 4534
15
支持禁你发言。
召唤版主。
c*****y
发帖数: 5747
16
现在政府那里有钱大规模采购。
连更换制式步枪都力争只是换个管子而已。
就算采购,每年也就是一两家轻武器制造商得到小单子。
这年头全靠民间采购和出口。
而且出口的政府限制还很多。
所以民间市场对军火商(在轻武器制造上)的重要不言而喻。

【在 X***R 的大作中提到】
: 难说,因为军火商一旦接受大量政府订单,就不用 Care 小额买卖。
: 就如同卖芯片和操作系统的那些公司,有很大一部分利润来源于政府采购,而不是PC
: 零售。

o*****e
发帖数: 1353
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是见风使舵还是一向如此?
X***R
发帖数: 2410
18
你们伪装的 Liberal 吃喝得很好,除了捣乱也没什么正经贡献,
送入航天器发射到火星挖矿, 接受一下大自然的洗练
C*******r
发帖数: 10345
19
痢膊肉果然露出真实丑恶的面目
f*********n
发帖数: 11154
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版规
七,为维持版面秩序,本版原则上不欢迎禁枪言论。
贴子删除,ID封禁
t**********3
发帖数: 12623
21
高院现在有两个大法官76岁,很危险

【在 T*R 的大作中提到】
: 这是在给军火商做广告。
: GOP控制国会,什么都不可能通过。还有高院这一关。

k*****r
发帖数: 21039
22
禁枪是米犹的最后一根稻草,米国这样发展下去,发生krystalnacht是早晚的事儿

【在 C*******r 的大作中提到】
: 读者请注意,这种editorial board(编辑部)文章,是代表WaPo的观点的。一般客座
: 评论员文章不一定代表WaPo的观点。WaPo在endorse鳌八时,就是editorial board文章
: ,现在鳌八冻蒜了,只有三天,就有要求禁枪的文章。
: 本人认为,WaPo的根本目的是不可告人的,本质是要逐步推行以鳌八为首的暴力专制。

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