h*********r
发帖数: 1943 | 1 英国1997年之后将手枪禁掉，从此成为真正意义上的民众广泛无枪国，这算是大家都知
道的历史了。但是禁枪之后，犯罪率不降反升，短短十数载，已然成为泰晤士报和BBC
乃至全英国悲叹的“欧洲暴力犯罪率最高的国家”。
原因很简单，少了民众的武力制衡，暴徒就泛滥，犯罪成本极大的降低了，可能有枪的
民众歹徒侵犯之前要好好掂量一下自己的斤两，但是现在没枪了，胆子立刻肥了起来，
以前要在黑市花大价钱买枪才敢做的案子，三五英镑买把西瓜刀就能得手了。很可能也
是很多图表和统计上英国枪击案比例渐渐下降的原因——禁枪多年，再加上年年收缴，
百姓别说有枪，连枪是什么都快忘记了，杀鸡又何需用牛刀，子弹也比刀子贵啊。
同时伴随的却是暴力犯罪率的整体迅速上升，由以青少年一代蛊惑仔一样的犯罪盛行发
展，直到伦敦骚乱达到新的高峰。颇有稳坐欧洲暴利犯罪率第一把交椅的势头，暴力法
罪率超过美国和……以暴力犯罪而闻名的南非
很讽刺，收枪收到连自家的奥运会射击队都要出国培训的国家，自家的犯罪率居高不下
，全国的媒体还在惯性鼓吹枪支的邪恶，不知道最近刀械犯罪率升高是不是要开始鼓吹
刀具的邪恶。
英国的暴力犯罪到底上升了多少
How’s that ‘disarmed’ populace working for them?
Well, here it is… Violent attacks in the last ten years are up 77%.
（http://www.gunssavelife.com/?p=2191）
http://www.saf.org/journal/16/guncontrolinengland.pdf
有篇论文非常详细的阐述了英国禁枪的历史和结果，大量统计结果，推荐一读
In 2002, for the fourth consecutive year, gun crime in England and Wales
rose—by 35 percent for all firearms, and by a whopping 46 percent for the
banned handguns. Nearly 10,000 firearms offences were committed.iv The
shootings in a single week in the fall of 2003—of a Liverpool football
player and two other men in a bar, of three men in a drive-by attack in
Reading, of a 32-year-old builder leaving a health club in Hertfordshire, of
a 64-year-old woman trying to protect her daughter during a Nottinghamshire
burglary—provoked Oliver Letwin, shadow home secretary, to remark: “One
might have thought that this was Baghdad. In fact it‟s Blair‟s
Britain.”
同样是利物浦这个城市，97年禁令开始，全部收缴手枪后半年，手枪相关的犯罪率上升
了300%，英国佬花了偌大力气才发现原来是黑社会又从东欧来了大批手枪，当然普通民
众这次就只能做待宰羔羊了。
既然英国的枪械禁令干全民阉割严防强奸的行为艺术，那美国如何？
和收枪的英国不同，美国自上一个AWB过期后，枪械法律一直在放开。根据福布斯的消
息：
“Last December the FBI reported that murder and other violent crime rates
fell again by 6.4% during the first half of 2011 compared with the same
period in 2010.”
（http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2012/02/21/disarming-the-myths-promoted-by-the-gun-control-lobby/）
美国的治安形势是在转好的，美国的治安为什么好？同一篇文章也指出
“A widely-known study conducted by Gary Kleck and Marc Gertz in the 1990s
found that there were somewhere between 830,000 and 2.45 million U.S.
defensive gun uses annually. A National Crime Victimization Study (NCVS)
which asked victims if they had used a gun in self-defense found that about
108,000 each year had done so. A big problem with the NCVS line of survey
reasoning, however, is that it only includes those uses where a citizen
kills a criminal, not when one is only wounded, is held by the intended
victim until police arrive, or when brandishing a gun caused a criminal to
flee.”
两个数字，一个是83万到245万的年均枪支自卫数量，二是10万以上的年均击毙歹徒数
量。报告网上都有，想看的可以自己去搜。生命或许不能放在天平上做单纯的数量比较
，但当我们为疯狂歹徒的受害者寄托哀思的时候，不要忘记枪支作为美国文化的一部分
每年都从歹徒手中拯救数以万计的生命。 | d*****n
发帖数: 908 | 2 强顶！
我也想找类似的材料，犯懒，没动手。
英国领先南非，呵呵，效果太出色了。 | s****7
发帖数: 2507 | | D******r
发帖数: 491 | 4 英国?
Is this the country7 which has a big riot some time ago? And during the riot
, BBS suggest people using brooms to defend themselves?
Now I know the reason.LOL | D******r
发帖数: 491 | 5 这位天天被老婆谋害的仁胸， 赶紧回家藏剪刀去吧
【在 s****7 的大作中提到】
: 世界上谋杀率最高的国家是不禁枪的.
| m*********s
发帖数: 566 | 6 看看数据出处的原文
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-cou
不同国家对暴力犯罪的定义不同。英国的凶杀率很低。1995年以来英格兰和威尔士的暴
力犯罪率降低了一半。
ut criminologists say crime figures can be affected by many factors,
including different criminal justice systems and differences in how crime is
reported and measured.
New Home Secretary Alan Johnson is to make his first major speech on crime
today
New Home Secretary Alan Johnson is to make his first major speech on crime
today
In Britain, an affray is considered a violent crime, while in other
countries it will only be logged if a person is physically injured.
There are also degrees of violence. While the UK ranks above South Africa
for all violent crime, South Africans suffer more than 20,000 murders each
year - compared with Britain's 921 in 2007.
But Police Minister David Hanson said: 'These figures are misleading.
Levels of police recorded crime statistics from different countries are
simply not comparable since they are affected by many factors, for example
the recording of violent crime in other countries may not include behaviour
that we would categorise as violent crime.
'Violent crime in England and Wales has fallen by almost a half a peak in
1995 but we are not complacent and know there is still work to do. That is
why last year we published 'Saving lives. Reducing harm. Protecting the
public. An Action Plan for Tackling Violence 2008-11'.'
BBC
【在 h*********r 的大作中提到】
: 英国1997年之后将手枪禁掉，从此成为真正意义上的民众广泛无枪国，这算是大家都知
: 道的历史了。但是禁枪之后，犯罪率不降反升，短短十数载，已然成为泰晤士报和BBC
: 乃至全英国悲叹的“欧洲暴力犯罪率最高的国家”。
: 原因很简单，少了民众的武力制衡，暴徒就泛滥，犯罪成本极大的降低了，可能有枪的
: 民众歹徒侵犯之前要好好掂量一下自己的斤两，但是现在没枪了，胆子立刻肥了起来，
: 以前要在黑市花大价钱买枪才敢做的案子，三五英镑买把西瓜刀就能得手了。很可能也
: 是很多图表和统计上英国枪击案比例渐渐下降的原因——禁枪多年，再加上年年收缴，
: 百姓别说有枪，连枪是什么都快忘记了，杀鸡又何需用牛刀，子弹也比刀子贵啊。
: 同时伴随的却是暴力犯罪率的整体迅速上升，由以青少年一代蛊惑仔一样的犯罪盛行发
: 展，直到伦敦骚乱达到新的高峰。颇有稳坐欧洲暴利犯罪率第一把交椅的势头，暴力法
| i****n
发帖数: 1283 | 7 拜托！那是因为北爱尔兰共和军缴械了，内战和解了，不去英格兰威尔士搞袭击了。
is
【在 m*********s 的大作中提到】
: 看看数据出处的原文
: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-cou
: 不同国家对暴力犯罪的定义不同。英国的凶杀率很低。1995年以来英格兰和威尔士的暴
: 力犯罪率降低了一半。
: ut criminologists say crime figures can be affected by many factors,
: including different criminal justice systems and differences in how crime is
: reported and measured.
: New Home Secretary Alan Johnson is to make his first major speech on crime
: today
: New Home Secretary Alan Johnson is to make his first major speech on crime
| t******y
发帖数: 748 | | k*******n
发帖数: 5546 | | X***R
发帖数: 2410 | 10 痢剥肉又一个移民好去处，
看，有这么多的选择，要天朝有天朝，要资本国有资本国，
这些人还要到处捣乱，真是唯恐天下不乱。 |
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