m***s
发帖数: 215 | 1 On Audiogon, $4900 shipped, is it a good price? |
b**********y
发帖数: 7371 | 2 sochi - so cheap
【在 m***s 的大作中提到】
: On Audiogon, $4900 shipped, is it a good price?
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d**********r
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D**********s
发帖数: 3139 | 4 胆机有这个预算的话可以再攒点，趁着老头儿健在去，求一套sakuma的单端。比什么
kondo，air tight之类要实惠。以后只会价格越走越高，机器也与众不同有意思。
石机的话选择就多了，运气好gryphon的二手也可以买到。
好几千买20W还是有点鸡肋。 |
D**********s
发帖数: 3139 | 5 当然这种有代理商的机器，流通起来要容易。
如果家里的功放没有收藏只是使用的话，viva，jadis，cary等等很多牌子都是不错的
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j***k
发帖数: 2719 | 6 it is very good!!!
I am using its little brother, Solista LT and am very happy. This is a super
deal.
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: On Audiogon, $4900 shipped, is it a good price?
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F**z
发帖数: 299 | 7 这类胆机除换胆外，时间久了还需要什么样的维护？
【在 D**********s 的大作中提到】
: 当然这种有代理商的机器，流通起来要容易。
: 如果家里的功放没有收藏只是使用的话，viva，jadis，cary等等很多牌子都是不错的
: ，相对于价的折扣也是非常让人舒服的。
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D**********s
发帖数: 3139 | 8 不开机箱没什么需要维护的，安全起见也不会让用户维护。
【在 F**z 的大作中提到】
: 这类胆机除换胆外，时间久了还需要什么样的维护？
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F**z
发帖数: 299 | 9 多谢。
不知道这类胆机要放交响要什么样的音箱？好奇而已，没有和楼主竞争的意思。
【在 D**********s 的大作中提到】
: 不开机箱没什么需要维护的，安全起见也不会让用户维护。
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F**z
发帖数: 299 | 10 买了没？
【在 m***s 的大作中提到】
: On Audiogon, $4900 shipped, is it a good price?
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D**********s
发帖数: 3139 | 11 这个我真的不知道，jwalk不是有这个机器吗你问他怎么配就行，声音应该没区别。
我也有一台20W左右的并联单端机，用了tamura的非晶输出变压器，声音并不是很满意
，不同的变压器一个厂做一个声音，而且一般为了保证成本和造型都是自己绕制灌封，
绕法也千差万别，有反馈绕组的就更需要边做边试，所以出来的声音不一样就很平常。
20W的THD+N在1%以下的胆机驱动普通的喇叭都不会有太大问题，如果屋子很大的话天朗
prestige系列就很有优势。
【在 F**z 的大作中提到】
: 多谢。
: 不知道这类胆机要放交响要什么样的音箱？好奇而已，没有和楼主竞争的意思。
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D**********s
发帖数: 3139 | 12 当然直热管还有另外的优势，这个优势具体多大还得看不同的管子。
【在 F**z 的大作中提到】
: 买了没？
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F**z
发帖数: 299 | 13 Jwalk你怎么看
【在 D**********s 的大作中提到】
: 这个我真的不知道，jwalk不是有这个机器吗你问他怎么配就行，声音应该没区别。
: 我也有一台20W左右的并联单端机，用了tamura的非晶输出变压器，声音并不是很满意
: ，不同的变压器一个厂做一个声音，而且一般为了保证成本和造型都是自己绕制灌封，
: 绕法也千差万别，有反馈绕组的就更需要边做边试，所以出来的声音不一样就很平常。
: 20W的THD+N在1%以下的胆机驱动普通的喇叭都不会有太大问题，如果屋子很大的话天朗
: prestige系列就很有优势。
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p********e
发帖数: 16048 | 14 It should be really good. But I will not buy at this price.
He he
【在 m***s 的大作中提到】
: On Audiogon, $4900 shipped, is it a good price?
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j***k
发帖数: 2719 | 15 when i auditioned the Viva at the dealer a few years back, the dealer had
this larger Solista connected to a pair of Harbeth 40.1 and a pair Sonus
Faber Cremona Elipsa. Both sounded fantastic.
The dealer no longer sells Harbeth or SF. When I was at the dealer a few
months ago, he used the Solista to drive a pair of JBL Everest and a pair
Magico ( I didn't pay attention to the exact model). The JBL also sounded
great.
【在 F**z 的大作中提到】
: Jwalk你怎么看
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F**z
发帖数: 299 | 16 How much does solista cost if one were to buy from dealer?
【在 j***k 的大作中提到】
: when i auditioned the Viva at the dealer a few years back, the dealer had
: this larger Solista connected to a pair of Harbeth 40.1 and a pair Sonus
: Faber Cremona Elipsa. Both sounded fantastic.
: The dealer no longer sells Harbeth or SF. When I was at the dealer a few
: months ago, he used the Solista to drive a pair of JBL Everest and a pair
: Magico ( I didn't pay attention to the exact model). The JBL also sounded
: great.
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j***k
发帖数: 2719 | 17 $17,000
【在 F**z 的大作中提到】
: How much does solista cost if one were to buy from dealer?
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j***k
发帖数: 2719 | 18 my smaller Solista LT is $10K when buying it from the dealer new. |
p********e
发帖数: 16048 | 19 how much did you sell it for?
【在 j***k 的大作中提到】
: my smaller Solista LT is $10K when buying it from the dealer new.
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F**z
发帖数: 299 | 20 Indeed, superb deal. Hope someone from this forum gets to enjoy it...
【在 j***k 的大作中提到】
: $17,000
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D**********s
发帖数: 3139 | 21 magico应该用的都是visaton的单元，和jbl声音走向不一样。这个dealer看来也是什么
挣钱代理什么。
【在 j***k 的大作中提到】
: when i auditioned the Viva at the dealer a few years back, the dealer had
: this larger Solista connected to a pair of Harbeth 40.1 and a pair Sonus
: Faber Cremona Elipsa. Both sounded fantastic.
: The dealer no longer sells Harbeth or SF. When I was at the dealer a few
: months ago, he used the Solista to drive a pair of JBL Everest and a pair
: Magico ( I didn't pay attention to the exact model). The JBL also sounded
: great.
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D**********s
发帖数: 3139 | 22 另外你也可以看出来，sonus faber和mcintosh本家之后，mcintosh的dealer肯定都要
做SF，就和classe和bw一样，这些机械化的组合其实根本对于保持传统没有好处。
【在 j***k 的大作中提到】
: when i auditioned the Viva at the dealer a few years back, the dealer had
: this larger Solista connected to a pair of Harbeth 40.1 and a pair Sonus
: Faber Cremona Elipsa. Both sounded fantastic.
: The dealer no longer sells Harbeth or SF. When I was at the dealer a few
: months ago, he used the Solista to drive a pair of JBL Everest and a pair
: Magico ( I didn't pay attention to the exact model). The JBL also sounded
: great.
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m***s
发帖数: 215 | 23 It's expired already, either sold or seller pulled back (too many offers?).
Too bad that I have not planned to upgrade yet.
【在 F**z 的大作中提到】
: 买了没？
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j***k
发帖数: 2719 | 24 you are exactly right. the Viva amp was used to drive both the JBL and the
Magico. I said that the JBL sounded great with the Viva. What I didn't say
was that the Magico was sort of lifeless with the same Viva. It got back to
life again when the dealer switched to a Constellation amp.
Over the years, i got most of my gears from the dealer. He's a very annoying
character to deal with but I have to admit that he does have good taste in
music and audio gears.
http://earsnova.com/
【在 D**********s 的大作中提到】
: magico应该用的都是visaton的单元，和jbl声音走向不一样。这个dealer看来也是什么
: 挣钱代理什么。
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d**********r
发帖数: 24123 | 25 Great!
Didn't know it is in the city. I have to go and take a look!
Thanks
the
to
annoying
in
【在 j***k 的大作中提到】
: you are exactly right. the Viva amp was used to drive both the JBL and the
: Magico. I said that the JBL sounded great with the Viva. What I didn't say
: was that the Magico was sort of lifeless with the same Viva. It got back to
: life again when the dealer switched to a Constellation amp.
: Over the years, i got most of my gears from the dealer. He's a very annoying
: character to deal with but I have to admit that he does have good taste in
: music and audio gears.
: http://earsnova.com/
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F**z
发帖数: 299 | 26 It seems people often associate better soound with single-ended design.
Meanwhile, some tube amps have a single-ended triode mode and a switchable
push-pull mode, like the one below (at least based on the online review this
model has two modes of oepration).
In this particular Ayon model, is the single-ended triode mode a true
implementation of 单端 - is there any caveat with the two-mode design in
general? I am asking because it seems too good to be true - you have two
modes of operation from one amp.
The Ayon model:
http://www.ayonaudiousa.com/us/products/amplifier/kt88-series/s
Review in which the reviewer claims that the amp has a single-ended triode
mode:
http://www.ayonaudiousa.com/fileadmin/upload/pdf-dokumente/ayon
【在 D**********s 的大作中提到】
: 这个我真的不知道，jwalk不是有这个机器吗你问他怎么配就行，声音应该没区别。
: 我也有一台20W左右的并联单端机，用了tamura的非晶输出变压器，声音并不是很满意
: ，不同的变压器一个厂做一个声音，而且一般为了保证成本和造型都是自己绕制灌封，
: 绕法也千差万别，有反馈绕组的就更需要边做边试，所以出来的声音不一样就很平常。
: 20W的THD+N在1%以下的胆机驱动普通的喇叭都不会有太大问题，如果屋子很大的话天朗
: prestige系列就很有优势。
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D**********s
发帖数: 3139 | 27 尽量别碰这种机器就可以了，调整工作点和接法我也考虑过但是哪个都不理想，就一套
变压器的情况下声音也不会好。
this
【在 F**z 的大作中提到】
: It seems people often associate better soound with single-ended design.
: Meanwhile, some tube amps have a single-ended triode mode and a switchable
: push-pull mode, like the one below (at least based on the online review this
: model has two modes of oepration).
: In this particular Ayon model, is the single-ended triode mode a true
: implementation of 单端 - is there any caveat with the two-mode design in
: general? I am asking because it seems too good to be true - you have two
: modes of operation from one amp.
: The Ayon model:
: http://www.ayonaudiousa.com/us/products/amplifier/kt88-series/s
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w**t
发帖数: 1037 | 28 you may compare it to this one sold a while ago:
https://app.audiogon.com/listings/tube-viva-solista-mkiii-single-ended-class
-a-set-amp-845-integrated-amplifier-2013-07-15-amplifiers-94546
【在 m***s 的大作中提到】
: On Audiogon, $4900 shipped, is it a good price?
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