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b******l
发帖数: 261
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我有CYGWIN的DDD. 多谢了
st
发帖数: 1685
2
why not use eclipse/jbuilder etc?

【在 b******l 的大作中提到】
: 我有CYGWIN的DDD. 多谢了
xt
发帖数: 17532
3

Or use System.err.println() haha

【在 st 的大作中提到】
: why not use eclipse/jbuilder etc?
b******l
发帖数: 261
4
I used print in graduate school. which is not good enough for a real project.

【在 xt 的大作中提到】
:
: Or use System.err.println() haha

b******l
发帖数: 261
5
I tried to use all the free software if possible. :-)
such as DDD

【在 st 的大作中提到】
: why not use eclipse/jbuilder etc?
st
发帖数: 1685
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well, many linux/unix lovers still stick to vi... doing their real projects...

【在 b******l 的大作中提到】
: I used print in graduate school. which is not good enough for a real project.
st
发帖数: 1685
7
jbuilder personal edition is free,
eclipse is free as well.

【在 b******l 的大作中提到】
: I tried to use all the free software if possible. :-)
: such as DDD

b******l
发帖数: 261
8
I am using vim, too, but news is: on w2k. :-)
If on linux/unix, I won't come to ask.

【在 st 的大作中提到】
: well, many linux/unix lovers still stick to vi... doing their real projects...
b******l
发帖数: 261
9
really. I will give a try. Thanx

【在 st 的大作中提到】
: jbuilder personal edition is free,
: eclipse is free as well.

st
发帖数: 1685
10
yeah, that's the thing, what a waste if you dont ues IDE on w2k.

【在 b******l 的大作中提到】
: I am using vim, too, but news is: on w2k. :-)
: If on linux/unix, I won't come to ask.

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b******l
发帖数: 261
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I don't use IDE because Idon't need usually.
My case is I used language other than C/C++/java, but from time to time,
maybe twice a year, I have to read some c/C++/java code, and possible study
it.

【在 st 的大作中提到】
: yeah, that's the thing, what a waste if you dont ues IDE on w2k.
st
发帖数: 1685
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no matter a lot code or just small amount, IDE helps you, make it faster,
IMHO, so I would prefer to use IDE.

【在 b******l 的大作中提到】
: I don't use IDE because Idon't need usually.
: My case is I used language other than C/C++/java, but from time to time,
: maybe twice a year, I have to read some c/C++/java code, and possible study
: it.

c***r
发帖数: 4631
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well, I am on os x with a gvim. And if you really like a gui, you can try
eclips. it's a little slow, but fine.

projects...
project.

【在 b******l 的大作中提到】
: I am using vim, too, but news is: on w2k. :-)
: If on linux/unix, I won't come to ask.

st
发帖数: 1685
14
you know, people fall in love with "good" gui, since it speeds up the
work, IMHO...

【在 c***r 的大作中提到】
: well, I am on os x with a gvim. And if you really like a gui, you can try
: eclips. it's a little slow, but fine.
:
: projects...
: project.

b******l
发帖数: 261
15
that is why people(some quick CS MS)can build a GUI in couple minutes, but
knew nothing about OS or compile, and they call themself Computer SCIENCE

【在 st 的大作中提到】
: you know, people fall in love with "good" gui, since it speeds up the
: work, IMHO...

m********d
发帖数: 27
16
don't use gui that often except msvc, maybe just get used to vim

【在 b******l 的大作中提到】
: that is why people(some quick CS MS)can build a GUI in couple minutes, but
: knew nothing about OS or compile, and they call themself Computer SCIENCE

st
发帖数: 1685
17
that's software engineering, dont know anybody doing that calling
themselves "science".

【在 b******l 的大作中提到】
: that is why people(some quick CS MS)can build a GUI in couple minutes, but
: knew nothing about OS or compile, and they call themself Computer SCIENCE

xt
发帖数: 17532
18

project.
I used print in our projects, until I got a really slow debugger lately.

【在 b******l 的大作中提到】
: I used print in graduate school. which is not good enough for a real project.
xt
发帖数: 17532
19

projects...
I am not one of them, but I use vi on W2K. :-)
I also use notepad for JSP.

【在 st 的大作中提到】
: well, many linux/unix lovers still stick to vi... doing their real projects...
st
发帖数: 1685
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I dont know any good IDE for jsp yet...
well, never consider click of a mouse giving you refrence of that function
and many other functionality would be convenient?

【在 xt 的大作中提到】
:
: projects...
: I am not one of them, but I use vi on W2K. :-)
: I also use notepad for JSP.

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xt
发帖数: 17532
21

I don't call myself "science". haha
It takes me a few weeks to build a good GUI.

【在 st 的大作中提到】
: that's software engineering, dont know anybody doing that calling
: themselves "science".

xt
发帖数: 17532
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Sometimes, but not all that necessary. The real story is, we didn't buy any
IDE. :-)

【在 st 的大作中提到】
: I dont know any good IDE for jsp yet...
: well, never consider click of a mouse giving you refrence of that function
: and many other functionality would be convenient?

st
发帖数: 1685
23
depend on the complexity of the GUI bah... that's not science for sure..

【在 xt 的大作中提到】
:
: Sometimes, but not all that necessary. The real story is, we didn't buy any
: IDE. :-)

xt
发帖数: 17532
24

I only build GUI's as Sybase Central plug-ins. I start from hand coding
the panels - The viewer frame is already provided by Sybase Central.
However I have to follow all the Sybase Central rules to make it work.
Also I need to take care of all the localization issues etc. Last time
it took me 6 weeks to build a GUI comprised of about 30 panels.

【在 st 的大作中提到】
: depend on the complexity of the GUI bah... that's not science for sure..
st
发帖数: 1685
25
30 panels, that's a lot "pain in the ass" ah.

【在 xt 的大作中提到】
:
: I only build GUI's as Sybase Central plug-ins. I start from hand coding
: the panels - The viewer frame is already provided by Sybase Central.
: However I have to follow all the Sybase Central rules to make it work.
: Also I need to take care of all the localization issues etc. Last time
: it took me 6 weeks to build a GUI comprised of about 30 panels.

xt
发帖数: 17532
26

If you do it right, it is pretty staight forward.
Of course the first thing is to define all the
behaviours.

【在 st 的大作中提到】
: 30 panels, that's a lot "pain in the ass" ah.
st
发帖数: 1685
27
I know, once you have some samples, it gets faster later on.

【在 xt 的大作中提到】
:
: If you do it right, it is pretty staight forward.
: Of course the first thing is to define all the
: behaviours.

b******l
发帖数: 261
28
FYI, I am using Eclipse now. Quite OK for my trace purpose, though download
took an hour.
got Websphere too, but it is too big

【在 st 的大作中提到】
: I know, once you have some samples, it gets faster later on.
st
发帖数: 1685
29
your download speed seem slow? any way, it's an one time thing.

【在 b******l 的大作中提到】
: FYI, I am using Eclipse now. Quite OK for my trace purpose, though download
: took an hour.
: got Websphere too, but it is too big

xt
发帖数: 17532
30

Websphere? I use the latest version, enterprise. Never liked
it much.

【在 b******l 的大作中提到】
: FYI, I am using Eclipse now. Quite OK for my trace purpose, though download
: took an hour.
: got Websphere too, but it is too big

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p***n
发帖数: 635
31
IDEA

【在 b******l 的大作中提到】
: 我有CYGWIN的DDD. 多谢了
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