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发帖数: 124 | 1 1 : I worked at Google full-time (More than 8 years)
Pros
1) Food, food, food. 15+ cafes on main campus (MTV) alone. Mini-kitchens,
snacks, drinks, free breakfast/lunch/dinner, all day, errr'day. 2) Benefits/
perks. Free 24:7 gym access (on MTV campus). Free (self service) laundry (
washer/dryer) available. Bowling alley. Volley ball pit. Custom-built and
exclusive employee use only outdoor sport park (MTV). Free health/fitness
assessments. Dog-friendly. Etc. etc. etc. 3) Com…
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Cons
1) Work/life balance. What balance? All those perks and benefits are an
illusion. They keep you at work and they help you to be more productive. I'
ve never met anybody at Google who actually time off on weekends or on
vacations. You may not hear management say, "You have to work on weekends/
vacations" but, they set the culture by doing so - and it inevitably
trickles down. I don't know if Google inadvertently hires the work-a-holics
or if they create work-a-holics in us. Regardless, I have seen way too many
of the following: marriages fall apart, colleagues choosing work and
projects over family, colleagues getting physically sick and ill because of
stress, colleagues crying while at work because of the stress, colleagues
shooting out emails at midnight, 1am, 2am, 3am. It is absolutely ridiculous
and something needs to change. 2) Poor management. I think the issue is that
, a majority of people love Google because they get to work on interesting
technical problems - and these are the people that see little value in
learning how to develop emotional intelligence. Perhaps they enjoy technical
problems because people are too "difficult." People are promoted into
management positions - not because they actually know how to lead/manage,
but because they happen to be smart or because there is no other path to
grow into. So there is a layer of intelligent individuals who are horrible
managers and leaders. Yet, there is no value system to actually do anything
about that because "emotional intelligence" or "adaptive leadership" are not
taken seriously. 3) Jerks. Sure, there are a lot of brilliant people - but,
sadly, there are also a lot of jerks (and, many times, they are one and the
same). Years ago, that wasn't the case. I don't know if the pool of
candidates is getting smaller, or maybe all the folks with great
personalities cashed out and left, or maybe people are getting burned out
and it's wearing on their personality and patience. I've heard stories of
managers straight-up cussing out their employees and intimidating/scaring
their employees into compliance. 4) It's a giant company now and, inevitably
, it has become slower moving and is now layered with process and
bureaucracy. So many political battles, empire building, territory grabbing.
Google says, "Don't be evil." But, that practice doesn't seem to be put
into place when it comes to internal practices. :(
2:
Pros
You can't find a more well-regarded company that actually deserves the hype
it gets. You'll work on cutting edge projects / solve important issues that
impact your community and the world You'll meet interesting people who are
your colleagues, managers, and senior management. You'll open the paper and
see your company in the news almost every day, and read about projects you'
re working on, which is a cool thing You'l…
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Cons
I live in SF so the commute can take between 1.5 hours to 1.75 hours each
way on the shuttle - sometimes 2 hours each way on a busy day or rainy day.
That means being on the bus for 3-4 hours PER DAY. It's a wired bus though
which means you can work on the way to Mountain View. But it can feel brutal
. Your first year or two are really important in terms of your career at
Google and they affect how you're viewed, and your ability to be promoted.
You should always ask to work on high profile projects. If you don't get
them, don't expect to get high ratings or get promoted. Always volunteer for
cross functional group work for maximum exposure, and then work hard at
those things. You'll likely work on something that no one will explain to
you and it will take you at least a year to be comfortable doing what you're
working on, even if you're super quick at learning. No one has time to
train you or teach you what you're doing - which is kind of hard. After two
or three years, people you started out with at Google start to get promoted.
If you're not one of them, you'll wonder why and how it happened, and that
process is somewhat political and not always clear. It's a big company now.
And super political. So don't be naive. Expect some people to be catty, some
people to be territorial, and be prepared to be mentally tough. Don't let
people see your vulnerableness. It's a Darwinistic culture with a huge dose
of 30-something idealism on top which can fool you into thinking that people
are easygoing - they're not. They're driven. If you're not driven, you're
not going to fit in. When you start at Google, it seems like peer reviews
are super important - they are, but they are the sprinkles on the fro yo.
The important thing is that your direct manager knows your work, likes your
work and likes you, and then you can get promoted. If your boss doesn't like
you, all the positive peer reviews in the world won't help you. Make sure
you know what your boss wants, and give it to them. You will have weekly one
on ones, and make sure you are addressing your performance at each one,
asking if they have questions, how you can improve, can you work on cross
functional projects, etc. It's really hard to find work life balance at
Google. The workload is huge. I hardly have time to work out. The commute is
brutal. My family sometimes needs more from me and I can't give it. I'm
still trying to find the balance. I think I need more down time than most
people so I have a hard time being structured every day to fit all the
things I want into my day, so a lot of things slip, like working out. | p**********y
发帖数: 124 | 2 没有免费的午餐，也没有天上掉下的RSU. JOBS 累病后，GATES就想明白了，退休了 | h**k
发帖数: 3368 | 3 Google工作强度比起那些startup差很多 | p**********y
发帖数: 124 | 4 创业公司不是一般人的地方，他们要么成神，要么成鬼。 | p***r
发帖数: 4702 | 5 那是以前。现在已经微软化了
Benefits/
【在 p**********y 的大作中提到】
: 1 : I worked at Google full-time (More than 8 years)
: Pros
: 1) Food, food, food. 15+ cafes on main campus (MTV) alone. Mini-kitchens,
: snacks, drinks, free breakfast/lunch/dinner, all day, errr'day. 2) Benefits/
: perks. Free 24:7 gym access (on MTV campus). Free (self service) laundry (
: washer/dryer) available. Bowling alley. Volley ball pit. Custom-built and
: exclusive employee use only outdoor sport park (MTV). Free health/fitness
: assessments. Dog-friendly. Etc. etc. etc. 3) Com…
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: Cons
| m****s
发帖数: 604 | | r*******e
发帖数: 7583 | 7 版上一把狗家的天天灌水，怎么会没有balance
Benefits/
【在 p**********y 的大作中提到】
: 1 : I worked at Google full-time (More than 8 years)
: Pros
: 1) Food, food, food. 15+ cafes on main campus (MTV) alone. Mini-kitchens,
: snacks, drinks, free breakfast/lunch/dinner, all day, errr'day. 2) Benefits/
: perks. Free 24:7 gym access (on MTV campus). Free (self service) laundry (
: washer/dryer) available. Bowling alley. Volley ball pit. Custom-built and
: exclusive employee use only outdoor sport park (MTV). Free health/fitness
: assessments. Dog-friendly. Etc. etc. etc. 3) Com…
: Show More
: Cons
| j**********r
发帖数: 3798 | 8 林子大了，啥鸟都有。那么大一个公司总有忙的，但据我认识的20人左右的 pool,
balance 算是很好的了。 | p***r
发帖数: 4702 | 9 其实一天就工作五小时。问题是堵车反正回不去家，就灌水跑步各种浪费时间
【在 r*******e 的大作中提到】
: 版上一把狗家的天天灌水，怎么会没有balance
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: Benefits/
| p**********y
发帖数: 124 | 10 有时间灌水跑步，就离被扫地出门不远了。吃青春饭的地方，却看不到青春美女，放
眼望去都是三哥三妹大妈。。。 |
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