E*****Z
发帖数: 144 | 1 朋友现以交换项目就读于美国大学，做出来的东西现在想申请美国专利，之前没考虑专
利之前都是想着投会议和期刊发表。现在有一个重要的会议的投稿截至日期将近，想请
教如果想申请美国专利，还能不能投稿去参加会议呢？
如果在文章投稿（或者发表？？）一定期限内申请美国专利，这个文章不会被引用为
prior art呢？听说有相关的条文规定，但是没有google到，如果有知道的前辈帮忙给
一个链接或者解释一下吧，多谢了！
同学会马上联系学校的tech transfer office弄清楚应该怎么做。于此同时，如果版上
知道情况或者有相关经验的前辈可以指点一二，也非常感谢！ |
f*****n
发帖数: 12752 | 2 职务内发明所有权是学校的，tech transfer office 会帮你做好一切。要注意的是文
章发表（包括online available，abstract publication，公开报告等）的那一天是最
后一天交专利申请的日子。时间紧的话用provisional application很简单的。当然你
可以不是在当天而是此后一年内申请专利，不过仅在美国有效，其他很多国家中发表后
即成为prior art |
E*****Z
发帖数: 144 | 3
非常感谢feitian前辈的回答。
关于在其他国家的申请，如果把美国这个转成non-provisional application，claim
priority，并且在期限内通过PCT申请别的国家的专利，那么自己投稿后变成
publication的东西还会不会被引做prior art了？
多谢！
【在 f*****n 的大作中提到】
: 职务内发明所有权是学校的，tech transfer office 会帮你做好一切。要注意的是文
: 章发表（包括online available，abstract publication，公开报告等）的那一天是最
: 后一天交专利申请的日子。时间紧的话用provisional application很简单的。当然你
: 可以不是在当天而是此后一年内申请专利，不过仅在美国有效，其他很多国家中发表后
: 即成为prior art
|
E*****Z
发帖数: 144 | 4
对不起，刚才没有理解对feitian的原贴。
仔细阅读了一下，是不是说通过provisional在发表之前申请就没问题，以后申请别的
国家也没问题。
如果在发表之后申请，那么可以有一年的时间在美国申请美国专利，但是别的国家就不
行了。。。
【在 E*****Z 的大作中提到】
:
: 非常感谢feitian前辈的回答。
: 关于在其他国家的申请，如果把美国这个转成non-provisional application，claim
: priority，并且在期限内通过PCT申请别的国家的专利，那么自己投稿后变成
: publication的东西还会不会被引做prior art了？
: 多谢！
|
f*****n
发帖数: 12752 | 5 你理解的就是我要表达的。我熟悉的情况一般都是provisional（和publication同一天
)一年后file US utility 和 PCT application,所以及时file provisional应该就可以
了。 |
d*****y
发帖数: 40 | 6 You don't even need to apply for a provisional in this case. For your own
publication, the only way that you will have a statutory bar is 102(b) and
102(d). That requires you to file an application within one year of your
publication date. |
f*****n
发帖数: 12752 | 7 however this may lead to loss of rights in other countries if somebody files
the same application in this one-year period, since almost all other
countries adopt "first-to-file" instead of "first-to-invent" policy in the U
.S.. |
E*****Z
发帖数: 144 | 8 谢谢donnoky和feitian的讨论及回复！
看来在filing的程序上，朋友的老板是不是要美国以外的patent是很重要的一个决定因
素啊。
Law版真好，赞一个！也赞Law版上的朋友的帮助！这样的讨论让我学习了不少东西！ |
d*****y
发帖数: 40 | 9 Even if you file a provisional in US, it won't help you if you want to file
in other countries. You can file a PCT if you intend to file in other
countries. Either case, a provisional wont help you. |
d*****y
发帖数: 40 | 10 "要注意的是文章发表（包括online available，abstract publication，公开报告等
）的那一天是最后一天交专利申请的日子。" This is incorrect. It's a year from
that day if that's your OWN publication. |
f*****n
发帖数: 12752 | 11 a PCT application can claim priority to a provisional application filed 12-
month ago but no earlier. In this sense, your rights are preserved in those
PCT-affiliated countries. But, of course, you only get patents in those
countries you select to enter the PCT.
Also, if you don't file anything (even a provisional) before or on the same
day of your publication, you will lost rights in other countries, if
somebody files a "same" application in those countries in the one-year grace
time and befo |
d*****y
发帖数: 40 | 12 Sorry, I was wrong about the PCT. I forgot that the PCT can claim priority
from the provisional. But regardless what you do, you have to do it within a
year of you own publication.
If all you want to do is to postpone the time you file a US patent while
avoid being barred by 102(b), here is what you can do:
File a patent somewhere (countries under PCT) or a provisional within a year
of your publication, then file a PCT claiming priority of this filing
according to 35 U.S.C. 119 (a), by filing th |
f*****n
发帖数: 12752 | 13 well, seems we cannot agree on this point. To me the strategy is, if you
only want a patent in U.S. but not in other countries and you want to file
the application as late as possible, just file a non-provisional application
before the one-year date after the publication. There is no point to file
a provisional if it is filed after the publication, since the only (or the
main) reason to file a provisional is to get a priority date for your later
application, which is not necessary in U.S. but c |
