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MedicalCareer版 - 坚持到底? 激流勇退?
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m********4
发帖数: 607
1
近两周,有些郁闷,自己也不清楚是为什么?
本来应该是高兴的,因为六月份,本人的"GREEN CARD- NIW EB2"排期就到了.
也许是"五年"的等待, 已经麻木了.
几年来,在保持稳定的工作同时,本人也以"地下工作者"的方式,完成了USMLE STEP1, 2
的考试,拿到了ECMFG 的证书.其间的"艰苦",只有那些有类似经历的兄弟姐妹能够理解.
然而,人生不如意的事情十有八九.
读了一些本坛的讨论,越发感到"压抑".作为一个1988年毕业的"OLD CMG", 本人意识到"
BOARD" 的门对我即使不是关闭的,也是很窄很窄的.
本人该怎么办?继续走下去,还是"识时务者为俊杰".
本人现期待六月份能够拿到"GREEN CARD", 这样才能同老板"实话实说',争取得到老板
的支持,提供一封推荐信.
我也希望能在这里得到一些鼓励,支持,与帮助. 正在查找可以做"内科和神经内科 OB
或 HAND ON"的机会, 如果你有这方面的信息,请回贴或发到: w*********[email protected]
Thank you very much,
D******e
发帖数: 1085
2
You cant go wrong either way.

2
解.
到"

【在 m********4 的大作中提到】
: 近两周,有些郁闷,自己也不清楚是为什么?
: 本来应该是高兴的,因为六月份,本人的"GREEN CARD- NIW EB2"排期就到了.
: 也许是"五年"的等待, 已经麻木了.
: 几年来,在保持稳定的工作同时,本人也以"地下工作者"的方式,完成了USMLE STEP1, 2
: 的考试,拿到了ECMFG 的证书.其间的"艰苦",只有那些有类似经历的兄弟姐妹能够理解.
: 然而,人生不如意的事情十有八九.
: 读了一些本坛的讨论,越发感到"压抑".作为一个1988年毕业的"OLD CMG", 本人意识到"
: BOARD" 的门对我即使不是关闭的,也是很窄很窄的.
: 本人该怎么办?继续走下去,还是"识时务者为俊杰".
: 本人现期待六月份能够拿到"GREEN CARD", 这样才能同老板"实话实说',争取得到老板

b*****u
发帖数: 289
3
十分理解楼主的心情,大家都是不远万里为了过上美好生活来的,在北美几年经历了太
多的辛酸苦辣,绝望希望交替快把人弄疯了。但是,生活就是奋斗,生活不是放弃。就
我个人而言,我现在不知道我能考什么成绩,不知道最终能不能match.但是有一点我可
以确定,就是当我回首往事的时候,我没有悔意,我一直在奋斗。话又说回来,历史已
经而且正在证明,只要我们付出百分之百的努力,我们的目标一定能过达到。
s*******d
发帖数: 1079
4
呵呵,这点事儿就郁闷了,太脆弱了吧---开玩笑哈!
先多句嘴,排期到了,最好也还是要麻烦Senator们去催一下的,可能会快些。我也是五年绿,虽说等的都麻木了,但拿到手的时候还是高兴的全家出去庆祝了下的。
言归正传,你考都考完了,certificate都拿到了,当然要继续往前走了。不试一下,咋就知道不行呢?门虽窄,能挤进去就好。88年毕业,20+ CMG乍一看似乎是难度不小,但你这么多年积累的publications+OB+strong LOR+professional crafted PS+connection(if you have) + a reachable ERAS application strategy。当你自己一切准备就绪的时候,我看不到门不开的理由!
m********4
发帖数: 607
5
Thank everyone to read and to encourage.
My credential:
Graduate year(M.D.): 1988
(M.S.): 1996
(Ph.D.):2000
Step1: 229/95
Step2: 229/95
US medical research experients: 2000- present ( Postdoctor)
US published papers: 7
USCE: None
LOR from American physician: None
Any connection: None.
My current boss: Ph.D.
I think I will regret later if I quit now.
a*********1
发帖数: 872
6
试也考了,绿卡也要拿到了,该做的基本都做了
剩下的不就是撒网收获了嘛 看不到任何让你放弃的理由啊
别怕,继续前进!
n***8
发帖数: 634
7
LZ 也只有行医可以一搏了.
老了还做破四道, 就更没老板要了.
一有绿卡就把工作辞了, 全值observe吧。
行医要不成, 只有回国发展, 要末想法弄RO1, 跳公司。
在这里做破四道就是悲剧一出.
t******r
发帖数: 8
8
Try Psych or Path with your research and Ph.D background.
P********A
发帖数: 101
9
continue. apply and work for it. Agree with travelor, there will be more
chance for path or psych
c*****r
发帖数: 50
10
why do you wait for this stupid green card, you should go ahead apply for
program. still half of program take H1B. Green card is like bone without
much meat on it, it is good to have....I am done with training, still on H1B
.

2
解.
到"

【在 m********4 的大作中提到】
: 近两周,有些郁闷,自己也不清楚是为什么?
: 本来应该是高兴的,因为六月份,本人的"GREEN CARD- NIW EB2"排期就到了.
: 也许是"五年"的等待, 已经麻木了.
: 几年来,在保持稳定的工作同时,本人也以"地下工作者"的方式,完成了USMLE STEP1, 2
: 的考试,拿到了ECMFG 的证书.其间的"艰苦",只有那些有类似经历的兄弟姐妹能够理解.
: 然而,人生不如意的事情十有八九.
: 读了一些本坛的讨论,越发感到"压抑".作为一个1988年毕业的"OLD CMG", 本人意识到"
: BOARD" 的门对我即使不是关闭的,也是很窄很窄的.
: 本人该怎么办?继续走下去,还是"识时务者为俊杰".
: 本人现期待六月份能够拿到"GREEN CARD", 这样才能同老板"实话实说',争取得到老板

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a***r
发帖数: 2677
11
老兄,都考完了就上吧。不然有点可惜了。
V**y
发帖数: 788
12
楼主披个马甲其实是来找OB的,其它都是吸引眼球的铺垫。
而且人家自己都说了 "I think I will regret later if I quit now."
大家就别瞎操心了该干嘛干嘛去吧
a***r
发帖数: 2677
13
有话直说不就完了,这么累不累,白浪费感情了。唉。
BTW,赞SHARP.

【在 V**y 的大作中提到】
: 楼主披个马甲其实是来找OB的,其它都是吸引眼球的铺垫。
: 而且人家自己都说了 "I think I will regret later if I quit now."
: 大家就别瞎操心了该干嘛干嘛去吧

m********4
发帖数: 607
14
Viky (转身插口袋),
I have to let you know that I am a new face in this forum. This post is my
first one.

I don’t think any people with the good education would like to use “马甲”
“吸引眼球” to damage her/his own fame.
In this world, there are still many nice and honest people. I wish you can
think as you were in my shoes.
Please be nice, not so mean!
m********4
发帖数: 607
15
Memorial Day Reading
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the
heaven.
A time to be born and a time to die,
A time to plant and a time to uproot,
A time to kill and a time to heal,
A time to tear down and a time to build,
A time to weep and a time to laugh,
A time to mourn and a time to dance,
A time to scatter stones and a time together them,
A time to embrace and a time to refrain,
A time to search and a time to give up,
A time to keep and a time to throw away,
p******6
发帖数: 410
16
We encourage new people to post their questions and request for help. Take
mitbbs medicareer as your information source and hopefully you can get the
answer you need.
As for old medical graduate, the chance is still there for sure. But of
course harder work is needed. From my opinion, strong recommendation letters
from physicians concerning your clinical ability or potential have already
been essential for IMGs, esp old graduates. It might not be the same some
years ago, but it is the reality no

【在 m********4 的大作中提到】
: Viky (转身插口袋),
: I have to let you know that I am a new face in this forum. This post is my
: first one.
:
: I don’t think any people with the good education would like to use “马甲”
: “吸引眼球” to damage her/his own fame.
: In this world, there are still many nice and honest people. I wish you can
: think as you were in my shoes.
: Please be nice, not so mean!

a****9
发帖数: 773
17
“Never let the fear of striking out keep you from playing the game."
m********4
发帖数: 607
18
Thank pipi2006 (pipi), add789 (*-*) for your good advices and encouragement.
Each positive word counts while standing the crossroad.
I am blessed and feel honor to know that so many people who take their
valuable time to encourage me to build up the strength to complete the
mission. Thank you all.
Yes, there is no reason for me to quit now.
In 2000, I came into with $1000 in the pocket and knew little about USA.
Today, I not only have more than 10 times more than that amount in the
savings, but
a*********d
发帖数: 2763
19
what other options do you have?
s*****1
发帖数: 273
20
Congratulations! You did great job already!
Here are my suggestions.
1.Try to finish step 3 as soon as possible.
2.Try to find OB. One way is to check with your own family doctor and local free clinic. You also can talk to your friends/neighbors to see whether they can introduce you to the nice doctors who'd like to help you gain USCE.
3.Prepare your application package, especially the personal statement.
4.Research the programs extensively to find the right targets fits your own background.
Goo
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新手请教: 还来得及吗?!关于推荐信,急问
OB opportunity5分钟结束战斗
z**h
发帖数: 153
21
逆风妹妹问得好,考版行医对任何人来讲都不是唯一选择。只是目前看不出你有更好的
选择。你说的弱势客观存在,所以可能需要更多的努力,通过各种方式建立connection
可能是目前你最重要的。

【在 a*********d 的大作中提到】
: what other options do you have?
u***e
发帖数: 611
22
考完了step1,2还在考虑急流勇退,不得不让人费解,也许楼主本来就不是很有决心。
什么年龄,绿卡,只是借口罢了吧。
也许你可以先做一下observer或externship,一来熟悉系统,二来看看这种生活到底是
不是你想要的。
c*****r
发帖数: 50
23
Sometimes people were considered not to be nice if he/she tells the truth.
But Please think about it, what really matters between GR and years away
from graduation.......if I were program director, it would be no brainer to
pick up the new graudates vs one who finished school 20 years ago if the
credential is about same......the application pool is so BIG ( an average
size neurology program received 400+ application every years)..... There are
only several program that really cares about green c

【在 m********4 的大作中提到】
: Thank pipi2006 (pipi), add789 (*-*) for your good advices and encouragement.
: Each positive word counts while standing the crossroad.
: I am blessed and feel honor to know that so many people who take their
: valuable time to encourage me to build up the strength to complete the
: mission. Thank you all.
: Yes, there is no reason for me to quit now.
: In 2000, I came into with $1000 in the pocket and knew little about USA.
: Today, I not only have more than 10 times more than that amount in the
: savings, but

m********4
发帖数: 607
24
There are many ways to service the people and world, not just be a practice
physician in US.
As I have said earlier, the USMLE was like the MOUNT EVEREST to me. I am
just a mountain climber. The goal is to reach the top. But, the pleasure is
from the whole process to move on higher place step by step.
After 10 years working hard, I can retire now without worrying about food,
clothes and shelter because I have build up solid financial foundation by
investment.
But, I still want to live an active
o******e
发帖数: 575
25
厉害!!!边破死道,边烤豹,还能在投资方面有如此建树,楼主真神人也!行医实在是
屈才了,建议向花儿街一带发展,方算是人尽其才物尽其用。

food,

【在 m********4 的大作中提到】
: There are many ways to service the people and world, not just be a practice
: physician in US.
: As I have said earlier, the USMLE was like the MOUNT EVEREST to me. I am
: just a mountain climber. The goal is to reach the top. But, the pleasure is
: from the whole process to move on higher place step by step.
: After 10 years working hard, I can retire now without worrying about food,
: clothes and shelter because I have build up solid financial foundation by
: investment.
: But, I still want to live an active

d****y
发帖数: 2180
26
Well said.
Enjoy the process. It's never too late to pursue your dream.
I too am an old CMG and still preparing for the step1. Even though the match
opportunity is slim in the future. I won't regret to choose this path.
Preparing for the test is the best opportunity to study all the subjects
systemically. You won't have the luxury later in practice.
It's a learning, thinking process. The joy is to stread the beads together
from different subjects.
Happy children's day for all the forks here
D******e
发帖数: 1085
27
I am baffled by LZ.
You built up $10000 in 10 yrs and you claim you can retire already?
A catchy title drew a lot of sympathy. Yet you are gung ho to match.
It is just a charade?

【在 o******e 的大作中提到】
: 厉害!!!边破死道,边烤豹,还能在投资方面有如此建树,楼主真神人也!行医实在是
: 屈才了,建议向花儿街一带发展,方算是人尽其才物尽其用。
:
: food,

V**y
发帖数: 788
28
lz到底想说什么?
m********4
发帖数: 607
29
Thank you so much.

match

【在 d****y 的大作中提到】
: Well said.
: Enjoy the process. It's never too late to pursue your dream.
: I too am an old CMG and still preparing for the step1. Even though the match
: opportunity is slim in the future. I won't regret to choose this path.
: Preparing for the test is the best opportunity to study all the subjects
: systemically. You won't have the luxury later in practice.
: It's a learning, thinking process. The joy is to stread the beads together
: from different subjects.
: Happy children's day for all the forks here

m********4
发帖数: 607
30
I belive if I can do it, everybody can do it.

【在 o******e 的大作中提到】
: 厉害!!!边破死道,边烤豹,还能在投资方面有如此建树,楼主真神人也!行医实在是
: 屈才了,建议向花儿街一带发展,方算是人尽其才物尽其用。
:
: food,

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D******e
发帖数: 1085
31
This title is better:
I aspire to 坚持到激流勇退.

【在 m********4 的大作中提到】
: I belive if I can do it, everybody can do it.
m********4
发帖数: 607
V**y
发帖数: 788
33
我一开始就说穿了,遭到老Ray无情删贴。

【在 D******e 的大作中提到】
: This title is better:
: I aspire to 坚持到激流勇退.

D******e
发帖数: 1085
34
Wealthy, pitiful and aspiring CMG seeks OB or externship.

【在 V**y 的大作中提到】
: 我一开始就说穿了,遭到老Ray无情删贴。
m********4
发帖数: 607
35
I would tell you that I am a very blessed person and the door is open to me
after I knocked.
So far, I can get the chance to do IM, Neuro/Psy and Family Medicine OB.
Good luck to everyone. Never give up too soon.

【在 D******e 的大作中提到】
: Wealthy, pitiful and aspiring CMG seeks OB or externship.
s*******d
发帖数: 1079
36
Curious---
what’s the purpose to make this post? Since you’re “a very blessed person
and the door is open to you" ? Why made up such confusing topic?

me

【在 m********4 的大作中提到】
: I would tell you that I am a very blessed person and the door is open to me
: after I knocked.
: So far, I can get the chance to do IM, Neuro/Psy and Family Medicine OB.
: Good luck to everyone. Never give up too soon.

d****y
发帖数: 2180
37
大家宽容一点吧。考版过程中遇到了困难挫折有时难免会生出茫然无助的感觉。多点鼓
励吧。
就连乖乖虎不也曾经想放弃去做其他的嘛。
年轻人当然毫无顾虑勇往直前。年纪大,有小孩的,要考虑的东西就多了。

person

【在 s*******d 的大作中提到】
: Curious---
: what’s the purpose to make this post? Since you’re “a very blessed person
: and the door is open to you" ? Why made up such confusing topic?
:
: me

s*******d
发帖数: 1079
38
误会了!
读了楼主后面的几篇POST,我自己都很感动和受到鼓舞。我只是不知道LZ想要表达什么
和需要大家做什么?说到鼓励,LZ自己的奋斗经历就是对版上拖家带口的OLD CMG的最好的激励。可是,既然“NEVER GIVE UP TOO SOON",又为啥要”激流勇退“? 既然”DOOR IS OPEN"又谈何“茫然无助”呢?
是我自己比较困惑而已,不清楚自己会不会将来也会经历如此反复的心路。

: 大家宽容一点吧。考版过程中遇到了困难挫折有时难免会生出茫然无助的感觉。多
点鼓

【在 d****y 的大作中提到】
: 大家宽容一点吧。考版过程中遇到了困难挫折有时难免会生出茫然无助的感觉。多点鼓
: 励吧。
: 就连乖乖虎不也曾经想放弃去做其他的嘛。
: 年轻人当然毫无顾虑勇往直前。年纪大,有小孩的,要考虑的东西就多了。
:
: person

d****y
发帖数: 2180
39
我的理解:楼主一开始发帖的时候可能碰到了一些困难,所以有畏缩后退的情绪。过了
几天情绪好了,又鼓起勇气继续奋斗,而且困难也得到了解决。
纯属推测。。。

最好的激励。可是,既然“NEVER GIVE UP TOO SOON",又为啥要”激流勇退“? 既然
”DOOR IS OPEN"又谈何“茫然无助”呢?

【在 s*******d 的大作中提到】
: 误会了!
: 读了楼主后面的几篇POST,我自己都很感动和受到鼓舞。我只是不知道LZ想要表达什么
: 和需要大家做什么?说到鼓励,LZ自己的奋斗经历就是对版上拖家带口的OLD CMG的最好的激励。可是,既然“NEVER GIVE UP TOO SOON",又为啥要”激流勇退“? 既然”DOOR IS OPEN"又谈何“茫然无助”呢?
: 是我自己比较困惑而已,不清楚自己会不会将来也会经历如此反复的心路。
:
: : 大家宽容一点吧。考版过程中遇到了困难挫折有时难免会生出茫然无助的感觉。多
: 点鼓

d****y
发帖数: 2180
40
你不是将来会有反复的心路。是现在就有吧,哈哈。
很正常啊

【在 s*******d 的大作中提到】
: 误会了!
: 读了楼主后面的几篇POST,我自己都很感动和受到鼓舞。我只是不知道LZ想要表达什么
: 和需要大家做什么?说到鼓励,LZ自己的奋斗经历就是对版上拖家带口的OLD CMG的最好的激励。可是,既然“NEVER GIVE UP TOO SOON",又为啥要”激流勇退“? 既然”DOOR IS OPEN"又谈何“茫然无助”呢?
: 是我自己比较困惑而已,不清楚自己会不会将来也会经历如此反复的心路。
:
: : 大家宽容一点吧。考版过程中遇到了困难挫折有时难免会生出茫然无助的感觉。多
: 点鼓

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D******e
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I can relate to LZ.
I am an aspiring doctor wannabe myself. But I never stop doubting myself.
The post worked. LZ asked for OB and now she got them.

最好的激励。可是,既然“NEVER GIVE UP TOO SOON",又为啥要”激流勇退“? 既然
”DOOR IS OPEN"又谈何“茫然无助”呢?

【在 s*******d 的大作中提到】
: 误会了!
: 读了楼主后面的几篇POST,我自己都很感动和受到鼓舞。我只是不知道LZ想要表达什么
: 和需要大家做什么?说到鼓励,LZ自己的奋斗经历就是对版上拖家带口的OLD CMG的最好的激励。可是,既然“NEVER GIVE UP TOO SOON",又为啥要”激流勇退“? 既然”DOOR IS OPEN"又谈何“茫然无助”呢?
: 是我自己比较困惑而已,不清楚自己会不会将来也会经历如此反复的心路。
:
: : 大家宽容一点吧。考版过程中遇到了困难挫折有时难免会生出茫然无助的感觉。多
: 点鼓

m****8
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42
就差最后一哆嗦了
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