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发帖数: 811 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 Pre_Resident_Club 俱乐部 】
发信人: cqfly (cq), 信区: Pre_Resident_Club
标 题: residency program 黑名单
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Aug 11 12:16:03 2011, 美东)
请问XDJMs，谁有收藏residency program 黑名单没？求分享。谢谢。
如果没有，欢迎大家在查找program时，做个标记，或把查到的相关信息和
评价贴出来，抽空一起讨论讨论。
也欢迎大家跟帖。
谢谢。 | N***a
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发帖数: 811 | 5 07/27/08 - 7:54 AM #1
from the other thread i have copied and pastedhere..
Have no personal experience
Places you dona#8482;t want to go for residency
.Sisters of Charity, Buffalo
.JHU/Sinai
.Interfaith
.Harlem Medical Center
.St. Vincent WQorcester
.St. Barnabas, Bronx
Nassau univ med center
JHU/sinai program
UCSF Fresno
Kingsbrook Jewish Hospital.
lincoln,
bronx,
maimondes
quuens hospital center Jamaica
brooklyn hospital cente
Maryland general hospital,md
Our lady of Mercy hospital, NY
Capital health system, NJ
University of Missouri aColumbia
Englewood,nj
http://www.prep4usmle.com/forum/thread/74914/ | f***r
发帖数: 413 | 6 But, for us CMG, no program is malignant | s*h
发帖数: 1538 | 7 先进去再说吧。现在的形势，还是program挑人，不是我们能挑program的时候。再拖几
年，等2017年AMG的毕业人数到27000了，就算我们想进malignant的program，人家都只
要AMG了。 | s*h
发帖数: 1538 | 8 1. Terminating a prelim intern in June is a rare event. Your appeal process
will take much more work to deal with than simply letting you finish. It's
extremely unlikely that this is "spite" -- first they would have had to "
hope" for some new event to occur this late in your training to be a trigger
, and honestly terminating you this late doesn't really teach you any more
of a lesson than terminating you earlier. Terminating you this late does
avoid the coverage problem that terminating you earlier might have caused,
but again as mentioned above most programs would simply let you graduate and
move on rather than bother with the headache of firing you. So....
2. The reason they fired you is probably that your performance is completely
unacceptable. 3 official complaints about your interpersonal skills in a
single year, when you have been warned before, is way above the usual. As
mentioned by others, there were probably many other less official complaints
. The last complaint was about not returning pages, and that can be spun as
"patient abandonment" which is very serious. Which leads to....
3. You seem to have no insight / understanding into your performance /
behavior. The six core competencies are just that -- six domains in which
physicians must be competent. You can be fine in patient care, but if your
professionalism or communication skills are felt to be unsatisfactory, you
fail. Arguing that you communicate fine 95+% of the time is not acceptable,
as your performance appears to be very far from the norm. You were not fired
for your repeated reports of concern. You were fired because of your lack
of insight / lack of doing anything about it / not taking it seriously.
What to do about it? Well, you should probably appeal it -- simply because
it's hard to make your situation any worse. In fact, my program would have
an automatic appeal of a decision like this. To be honest, your best chance
is to hope that you can get this reversed on a "technicality". Programs have
to follow their policies. You ask if it's OK if you were never on probation
, or never told that you'd be fired if it happened again. The answer is: "It
completely depends on what your program/institutional policies state". If
they say that you need to be on probation first, and that it needs to be in
writing, then you can appeal that. Some programs will allow immediate
termination for professionalism issues without probation. As mentioned above
, if the program spins this as patient abandonment -- i.e. the nurses needed
help and couldn't find a physician to help them despite multiple pages --
you could be in really big trouble. So, your best chance to get this
reversed is to show that your program didn't follow their own internal rules
. Trying to prove that the punishment is worse than the crime, or that the
crime didn't happen, are much more difficult. In the appeal process, expect
your program to pull out many more complaints / events that didn't create
official complaints in your file.
You didn't mention what comes after your prelim year. If you have an
advanced program to go to, they will be told about this and it may
completely invalidate your match.
It's completely up to your program to give you "no credit" for the year.
What actually happens is they give you an unsatisfactory overall
professional rating, and the ABIM will not grant any credit. This is
completely within their rights, and if your professionalism issues were as
serious as I expect they may have been might be fully warranted. It's common
for people with communication problems like this to minimize them, blame
others, and make excuses. Your last statements about being professional 365.
24.7 are classic. Let me answer them for you:
Yes. Being a professional physician means being professional 365.24.7. That
actually includes both when you are at work, and when you are not (which is
a strange concept, but true non-the-less). It applies at all times, to all
interactions. Although we all have events / experiences where we are less
professional than we set our goals to be, those events are not "
unprofessional" but rather are "minor lapses" which we often work out
ourselves (i.e. by recognizing that we have caused problem and apologizing /
addressing it directly and immediately after the event). Meeting this
standard 95% of the time is not acceptable. More telling is your apparent
lack of progress in improving, nor any commitment on your part to improve. | s********o
发帖数: 3319 | 9 in most cases, we simply have no other choices. |
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