s**********1
发帖数: 116 | 1 清朝那么虚弱，美国都只是租界中国土地，没有占领中国。毛泽东怎么这么傻，认为
美国会入侵北朝鲜入侵中国东北。老毛脑子进水了？？ |
w********r
发帖数: 14958 | |
N****w
发帖数: 21578 | 3 清朝的时候老美也不太强，自家地盘也才用了一小半
没想到扩张
二战以后就不一样了
如果占领了北朝鲜
很可能会配合常校长反攻大陆的
【在 s**********1 的大作中提到】
: 清朝那么虚弱，美国都只是租界中国土地，没有占领中国。毛泽东怎么这么傻，认为
: 美国会入侵北朝鲜入侵中国东北。老毛脑子进水了？？
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m**********n
发帖数: 27535 | |
s**********1
发帖数: 116 | 5 如果占领了北朝鲜
很可能会配合常校长反攻大陆的
========== This is totally wrong. It's impossible.
老美 want to change taiwan leader in 1950s.
【在 N****w 的大作中提到】
: 清朝的时候老美也不太强，自家地盘也才用了一小半
: 没想到扩张
: 二战以后就不一样了
: 如果占领了北朝鲜
: 很可能会配合常校长反攻大陆的
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S***a
发帖数: 3956 | 6 美国入侵阿富汗,入侵伊拉克的消息还没传到火星?
【在 s**********1 的大作中提到】
: 清朝那么虚弱，美国都只是租界中国土地，没有占领中国。毛泽东怎么这么傻，认为
: 美国会入侵北朝鲜入侵中国东北。老毛脑子进水了？？
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s**********1
发帖数: 116 | 7 you are TOOOOO OUTDATED.
US troops are leaving Iraq.....
【在 S***a 的大作中提到】
: 美国入侵阿富汗,入侵伊拉克的消息还没传到火星?
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N*******d
发帖数: 5641 | 8 扶植的代言人呢？
【在 s**********1 的大作中提到】
: you are TOOOOO OUTDATED.
: US troops are leaving Iraq.....
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h****u
发帖数: 788 | 9 史盲！美国是八国联军参战国之一，它的Marine和Navy在中国天津，上海都有长期驻军
。 |
s**********1
发帖数: 116 | 10 驻军租界中国土地
【在 h****u 的大作中提到】
: 史盲！美国是八国联军参战国之一，它的Marine和Navy在中国天津，上海都有长期驻军
: 。
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U*E
发帖数: 3620 | 11 你对xian...在Oct 2， 1010造谣说9路军的事怎么看？
【在 w********r 的大作中提到】
: 朝鲜战争是有必要的。
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N*******d
发帖数: 5641 | 12 所以当时中国的海关掌握在外国人手里。
你能把你家的钱交给我保管么？
【在 s**********1 的大作中提到】
: 驻军租界中国土地
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h****u
发帖数: 788 | 13 我靠，感情你们上海人把黄埔江里的外国兵舰和租界的外国驻军都不视为占领军啊。
【在 s**********1 的大作中提到】
: 驻军租界中国土地
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s**********1
发帖数: 116 | 14 Korea and Japan 把外国兵舰和租界的外国驻军都不视为占领军
【在 h****u 的大作中提到】
: 我靠，感情你们上海人把黄埔江里的外国兵舰和租界的外国驻军都不视为占领军啊。
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v*****s
发帖数: 20290 | 15 曾经打算把青岛作为第七舰队司令部。
【在 h****u 的大作中提到】
: 史盲！美国是八国联军参战国之一，它的Marine和Navy在中国天津，上海都有长期驻军
: 。
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t**********t
发帖数: 12071 | 16 上海人民欠了你很多钱？
【在 s**********1 的大作中提到】
: Korea and Japan 把外国兵舰和租界的外国驻军都不视为占领军
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h****u
发帖数: 788 | 17 别忘了朝鲜战争刚刚爆发，老毛还没派兵进朝鲜，杜鲁门就把第七舰队开进台湾海峡。
美军进驻台湾不算侵略吗？
【在 h****u 的大作中提到】
: 我靠，感情你们上海人把黄埔江里的外国兵舰和租界的外国驻军都不视为占领军啊。
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v*****s
发帖数: 20290 | 18 香港也是租借的。
【在 s**********1 的大作中提到】
: 驻军租界中国土地
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s**********1
发帖数: 116 | 19 It's okay to rent 青岛 to USA. look at great Hong Kong.
【在 v*****s 的大作中提到】
: 曾经打算把青岛作为第七舰队司令部。
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N*******d
发帖数: 5641 | 20 Korea需要美国保护
Japan不视为?
【在 s**********1 的大作中提到】
: Korea and Japan 把外国兵舰和租界的外国驻军都不视为占领军
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 21 那是因为中国太大，所有的帝国主义国家都想抢占，最后的结果就是租借，划分势力范
围。老美在菲利宾打败了西班牙，可没有只设租借，而是直接殖民。 |
s**********1
发帖数: 116 | 22 美军进驻台湾不算侵略 because Communist party does not own Taiwan's land.
Guo Min dang owns Taiwan's land.
【在 h****u 的大作中提到】
: 别忘了朝鲜战争刚刚爆发，老毛还没派兵进朝鲜，杜鲁门就把第七舰队开进台湾海峡。
: 美军进驻台湾不算侵略吗？
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h****u
发帖数: 788 | 23 那你干脆整天吃泡菜，当HelloKitty得了。
【在 s**********1 的大作中提到】
: Korea and Japan 把外国兵舰和租界的外国驻军都不视为占领军
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v*****s
发帖数: 20290 | 24 刘晓波的马甲还是粉丝？
【在 s**********1 的大作中提到】
: It's okay to rent 青岛 to USA. look at great Hong Kong.
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s**********1
发帖数: 116 | 25 Philipines was not USA colony. please study history.
American period (1898–1946)
Main article: History of the Philippines (1898-1946)
1898 political cartoon showing U.S. President McKinley with a native child.
Here, returning the Philippines to Spain is compared to throwing the child
off a cliff.
Filipinos initially saw their relationship with the United States as that of
two nations joined in a common struggle against Spain.[84] However, the
United States later distanced itself from the interests of the Filipino
insurgents. Aguinaldo was unhappy that the United States would not commit to
paper a statement of support for Philippine independence.[85] Relations
deteriorated and tensions heightened as it became clear that the Americans
were in the islands to stay.[85]
[edit] Philippine-American War
Main article: Philippine-American War
Hostilities broke out on February 4, 1899, after two American privates on
patrol killed three Filipino soldiers in San Juan, a Manila suburb.[86] This
incident sparked the Philippine-American War, which would cost far more
money and took far more lives than the Spanish–American War.[76] Some 126,
000 American soldiers would be committed to the conflict; 4,234 Americans
died, as did 16,000 Filipino soldiers who were part of a nationwide
guerrilla movement of indeterminate numbers.[86]
At least one million Filipinos lost their lives as a direct result of the
war,[8][9] with as many as 200,000 who died as a result of the cholera
epidemic at the war's end.[87] Atrocities were committed by both sides.[86]
The poorly-equipped Filipino troops were easily overpowered by American
troops in open combat, but they were formidable opponents in guerrilla
warfare.[86] Malolos, the revolutionary capital, was captured on March 31,
1899. Aguinaldo and his government escaped however, establishing a new
capital at San Isidro, Nueva Ecija. On June 5, 1899, Antonio Luna, Aguinaldo
's most capable military commander, was killed by Aguinaldo's guards in an
apparent assassination while visiting Cabanatuan, Nueva Ecija to meet with
Aguinaldo.[88] Gregorio del Pilar, another key general, was killed on
December 2, 1899 in the Battle of Tirad Pass. With his best commanders dead
and his troops suffering continued defeats as American forces pushed into
northern Luzon, Aguinaldo dissolved the regular army in November 1899 and
ordered the establishment of decentralized guerrilla commands in each of
several military zones. The general population, caught between Americans and
rebels, suffered significantly.[86]
Aguinaldo was captured at Palanan, Isabela on March 23, 1901 and was brought
to Manila. Convinced of the futility of further resistance, he swore
allegiance to the United States and issued a proclamation calling on his
compatriots to lay down their arms, officially bringing an end to the war.[
86] However, sporadic insurgent resistance continued in various parts of the
Philippines, especially in the Muslim south, until 1913.[89]
In 1900, President McKinley sent the Taft Commission, to the Philippines,
with a mandate to legislate laws and re-engineer the political system.[90]
On July 1, 1901, William Howard Taft, the head of the commission, was
inaugurated as Civil Governor, with limited executive powers.[91] The
authority of the Military Governor was continued in those areas where the
insurrection persisted.[92] The Taft Commission passed laws to set up the
fundamentals of the new government, including a judicial system, civil
service, and local government. A Philippine Constabulary was organized to
deal with the remnants of the insurgent movement and gradually assume the
responsibilities of the United States Army.[93]
[edit] Insular Government (1902-1935)
Flag of the United States, 1896-1908.
The Philippine Organic Act (1902) was a constitution for the Insular
Government, so called because Philippine civil administration was under the
authority of the U.S. Bureau of Insular Affairs. This government saw its
mission as one of tutelage, preparing the Philippines for eventual
independence.[94] On July 4, 1902 the office of Military Governor was
abolished and full executive power passed from Adna Chaffee, the last
military governor, to Taft, who became the first U.S. Governor-General of
the Philippines.[95]
William Howard Taft addressing the audience at the Philippine Assembly.
United States policies towards the Philippines shifted with changing
administrations.[76] During the early years of territorial administration,
the Americans were reluctant to delegate authority to the Filipinos, but an
elected Philippine Assembly was inaugurated in 1907, as the lower house of a
bicameral legislature, with the appointive Philippine Commission becoming
the upper house. When Woodrow Wilson became U.S. President in 1913, a new
policy was adopted to put into motion a process that would gradually lead to
Philippine independence. The Jones Act, passed by the U.S. Congress in 1916
to serve as the new organic law in the Philippines, promised eventual
independence and instituted an elected Philippine senate.
In socio-economic terms, the Philippines made solid progress in this period.
In 1895, foreign trade amounted to 62 million pesos, 13% of which was with
the United States. By 1920, it had increased to 601 million pesos, 66% of
which was with the United States.[96] A health care system was established
which, by 1930, reduced the mortality rate from all causes, including
various tropical diseases, to a level similar to that of the United States
itself. Slavery, piracy and headhunting were all suppressed, but not
extinguished. An educational system was established which, among other
subjects, provided English as a lingua franca[97] so that the islands' 170
linguistic groups could communicate with one another and the outside world.[
98] While prior to the coming of the Americans, Spanish was spoken by some
segments of Philippine society, the language was unpopular.[97] At the end
of the Spanish era, less than ten percent of the Christianized population
was fully literate in the language and those who spoke it were limited to
the urban centers and the elite.[97][99]
The 1920s saw alternating periods of cooperation and confrontation with
American governors-general, depending on how intent the incumbent was on
exercising his powers vis-à-vis the Philippine legislature. Members to the
elected legislature lobbied for immediate and complete independence from the
United States. Several independence missions were sent to Washington, D.C.
A civil service was formed and was gradually taken over by Filipinos, who
had effectively gained control by 1918.
Philippine politics during the American territorial era was dominated by the
Nacionalista Party, which was founded in 1907. Although the party's
platform called for "immediate independence", their policy toward the
Americans was highly accommodating.[100] Within the political establishment,
the call for independence was spearheaded by Manuel L. Quezon, who served
continuously as Senate president from 1916 until 1935.
Frank Murphy was the last Governor-General of the Philippines (1933–35),
and the first U.S. High Commissioner of the Philippines (1935–36). The
change in form was more than symbolic: it was intended as a manifestation of
the transition to independence.
[edit] Commonwealth
Main article: Commonwealth of the Philippines
Commonwealth President Manuel L. Quezon with United States President
Franklin D. Roosevelt in Washington, D.C.
The Great Depression in the early thirties hastened the progress of The
Philippines towards independence. In the United States it was mainly the
sugar industry and labour unions that had a stake in loosening the U.S. ties
to The Philippines since they could not compete with the Philippine cheap
sugar (and other commodities) which could freely enter the U.S. market.
Therefore, they agitated in favor of granting independence to the
Philippines so that its cheap products and labour could be shut out of the
United States.[101] In 1933, the United States Congress passed the Hare-
Hawes-Cutting Act as a Philippine Independence Act over President Herbert
Hoover's veto.[102] Though the bill had been drafted with the aid of a
commission from the Philippines, it was opposed by Philippine Senate
President Manuel L. Quezon, partially because of provisions leaving the
United States in control of naval bases. Under his influence, the Philippine
legislature rejected the bill.[103] The following year, a revised act known
as the Tydings-McDuffie Act was finally passed. The act provided for the
establishment of the Commonwealth of the Philippines with a ten-year period
of peaceful transition to full independence. The commonwealth would have its
own constitution and be self-governing, though foreign policy would be the
responsibility of the United States, and certain legislation required
approval of the United States president.[103]
A constitution was framed and approved by Franklin D. Roosevelt in March
1935. On May 14, 1935, a Filipino government was formed on the basis of
principles similar to the U.S. Constitution. The commonwealth was
established in 1935, electing Manuel L. Quezon as the president and
featuring a very strong executive, a unicameral National Assembly, and a
Supreme Court composed entirely of Filipinos for the first time since 1901.[
104]
【在 b*****d 的大作中提到】
: 那是因为中国太大，所有的帝国主义国家都想抢占，最后的结果就是租借，划分势力范
: 围。老美在菲利宾打败了西班牙，可没有只设租借，而是直接殖民。
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N*******d
发帖数: 5641 | 26 那你说美军进驻大陆算不算侵略
【在 s**********1 的大作中提到】
: 美军进驻台湾不算侵略 because Communist party does not own Taiwan's land.
: Guo Min dang owns Taiwan's land.
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s**********1
发帖数: 116 | 27 my answer is the same as yours.
【在 N*******d 的大作中提到】
: 那你说美军进驻大陆算不算侵略
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N*******d
发帖数: 5641 | 28 我说算，你说算不算
【在 s**********1 的大作中提到】
: my answer is the same as yours.
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s**********1
发帖数: 116 | 29 我说算，你说算不算
【在 N*******d 的大作中提到】
: 我说算，你说算不算
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N*******d
发帖数: 5641 | 30 你丫留声机阿
【在 s**********1 的大作中提到】
: 我说算，你说算不算
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s**********1
发帖数: 116 | 31 你鸭傻子阿
【在 N*******d 的大作中提到】
: 你丫留声机阿
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w********r
发帖数: 14958 | 32 SB啊。 中国招标出租土地，八国联军付钱。这叫租借。
你先占完了，再给几毛钱。 这叫强奸。 这根TG官员强奸小学幼女，然后给钱，谎称小
学生卖淫一样。 |
N*******d
发帖数: 5641 | 33 这版上也就你最傻了，发这种帖子
【在 s**********1 的大作中提到】
: 你鸭傻子阿
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s**********1
发帖数: 116 | 34 Lao Mao最傻了. he donated his son to BBQ
【在 N*******d 的大作中提到】
: 这版上也就你最傻了，发这种帖子
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V*U
发帖数: 2226 | 35 你对整天贴几千个flash的老将怎么看？让web用户的ie/firefox崩溃。
【在 w********r 的大作中提到】
: SB啊。 中国招标出租土地，八国联军付钱。这叫租借。
: 你先占完了，再给几毛钱。 这叫强奸。 这根TG官员强奸小学幼女，然后给钱，谎称小
: 学生卖淫一样。
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l******r
发帖数: 18699 | 36 因为清朝是封建制度，落后于美国资本主义制度；
毛时代中国是社会主义制度，要先进于美国。
所以趁新中国建立不稳占领中国也不无可能
【在 s**********1 的大作中提到】
: 清朝那么虚弱，美国都只是租界中国土地，没有占领中国。毛泽东怎么这么傻，认为
: 美国会入侵北朝鲜入侵中国东北。老毛脑子进水了？？
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s**********1
发帖数: 116 | 37 USA wants to 占领 Africa??
【在 l******r 的大作中提到】
: 因为清朝是封建制度，落后于美国资本主义制度；
: 毛时代中国是社会主义制度，要先进于美国。
: 所以趁新中国建立不稳占领中国也不无可能
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h****i
发帖数: 1674 | 38 老毛有办法吗
人家金日成根本没把老毛和老周，也就是中国的意见放在眼里。和斯大林背着中国就入
侵韩国，老毛除
了入朝之外有本事跟苏联闹翻吗？最后牺牲数十万将士，现在都不能公开说我们当初是
不支持金日成
的。
抗美援朝打的不错，可惜一想到当初被人牵着鼻子走，这还是奇耻大辱。敢情我们但是
就一出苦力的，
斯大林和金日成欺人太甚
【在 s**********1 的大作中提到】
: 清朝那么虚弱，美国都只是租界中国土地，没有占领中国。毛泽东怎么这么傻，认为
: 美国会入侵北朝鲜入侵中国东北。老毛脑子进水了？？
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m*****u
发帖数: 15526 | 39 在妓女看来，良家妇女脑子是进水了。不就是做一下，票子就哗哗到手了么？为啥不干
呢？
【在 s**********1 的大作中提到】
: 清朝那么虚弱，美国都只是租界中国土地，没有占领中国。毛泽东怎么这么傻，认为
: 美国会入侵北朝鲜入侵中国东北。老毛脑子进水了？？
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