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发帖数: 7521 | 1 【原文-加拿大】Could non-chinese join PLA?
【原文地址】：http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/army/could-non-chinese-join-pla- 4639.html
【发布日期】：2009-8-18
【翻译截止日期】：2010-12-22 02:55:32
【翻译评论数/ 总评论】：80+ / 100+
【翻译作者】：Aville
【联名作者】：
译文导读：这次是友情翻译，接的是日语小翻浅浅的活儿（大家都搞副业），有3
年时间没再怎么碰过英语的我，肯定翻译的不利索，在此恳请各位英语达人不吝赐教，
有错直接往我脸上砸，没事的。
这是一位15岁的芬兰热血少年为加入中国人民解放军而发的帖子，一步步翻下来，最大
的感触是，不懂不要紧，千万不要装B，否则真正的牛人出现，会让你难堪的。帖文中
，bd popeye就是这样一个反面教材。另外，帖子回复的不激动，不上火，不冲动，不
问候别人老祖宗的理性风格也值得我们大家学习，有则改之，无则加勉。
Could non-chinese join PLA?
外籍人士可以加入中国解放军么？
PLA Soldier（楼主）
As seen in topic, my porblem is that I wish to know would it be possible for
non-chinese citizen to join PLà? This not a joke, I′m talking dead-
serious about this.
如题，我想知道非中国公民加入解放军是否可能？大家别笑，我是认真的。
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评论翻译
bd popeye
In my short 5 year study study of the PLA the answer is no
The answer can be found in this link below.
http://www.militarytimes.com/static/...3dnplanavy.pdf
Before you make any more post in the forum I suggest you read the forum
rules.
FORUM RULES: Things to Remember Before Posting, important, please read!
Thank you and welcome to the forum!
由我五年来对PLA的研究来看，答案是否定的。
你可以看看下面的链接，其中有你要找的答案:
http://www.militarytimes.com/static/...3dnplanavy.pdf(美国人的/a>
另外，请你以后发帖前先读读本站版规：
FORUM RULES: Things to Remember Before Posting, important, please read!
谢谢，欢迎来到本论坛！
PLA Soldier
Thank you for your answer. But, would it be then possible if I would give up
my old citizenship and gain chinese citizenship?
多谢你的回复，但是，如果我放弃原来的国籍，加入中国国籍呢，有可能吗？
bd popeye
Quote:
Originally Posted by PLA Soldier
Thank you for your answer. But, would it be then possible if I would give up
my old citizenship and gain chinese citizenship?
Nope..Someone asked that question previously..several years ago in fact.
Perhaps in this thread or in theold ez board days of 5 years ago.
You have to be Chinese citizen of the Peoples Republic of China to join the
PLA. All others need not apply.
You >>> PLA soldier <
Let's see as near as I figure you live in Finland and are only 15 years old
according to your profile. So in most countries you have to be 17 or 18 to
join the military. So just wait until then.
还是不行啦，有人最近问过和你一样的问题……好吧，是几年前，也许是五年前，当时
这个论坛的版本可能还处于ezboard（公告板）时代吧。
你首先必须生为中华人民共和国的公民，才有资格加入解放军，其他一切免谈。
你，解放军战士，两者无缘，放弃吧，还是加入你自己国家的军队吧，这才是王道。
五分钟后重新编辑……
进一步说吧，由你的资料，我猜你住在芬兰吧，15岁，在大多数国家，法定参军年龄大
概在17到18岁，所以，你还是再喝几年奶看看吧。
Finn McCool
There's always the Legion Etrangere
总是有外籍军团存在滴。
Damingli85
What about Chinese turned into American citizen and then to Chinese citizen?
如果一个中国人先换成美国国籍，然后又恢复中国国籍呢？
bd popeye
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damingli85
What about Chinese turned into American citizen and then to Chinese citizen?
Nope
还是不行。
Quote:
You have to be Chinese citizen of the Peoples Republic of China to join the
PLA. All others need not apply.
I should have stated a natural born Chinese citizen.
我的意思是你必须是一个土生土长的中国人。
HKSDU
answer is no people not even Hong Kong or Macau people are allowed to join
the PLA
连香港和澳门的年轻人都不让加入解放军呢。（ID显示应为香港人）
bd popeye
Quote:
Originally Posted by HKSDU
answer is no people not even Hong Kong or Macau people are allowed to join
the PLA
Thank you! No Tibetans..No Mongolians none of the non racially Chinese
people in western China or anywhere else in China. No foreigners.
You have to be a Chinese person born in China. Period.
多谢啦，西藏人不行，蒙古人不行，这些生活在中国西部省份的或者其他地方的非中原
人种都不行（？），更何况是外国人？
你必须是一个土生土长的中国人，讨论到此为止。
backwindow
Quote:
Originally Posted by bd popeye
Thank you! No Tibetans..No Mongolians none of the non racially Chinese
people in western China or anywhere else in China. No foreigners.
You have to be a Chinese person born in China. Period.
Tibetans & Mongolians & Uyghuｒs are doing service in PLA. If they are
chinese citizen.
解放军中是有西藏人，蒙古人，维族人在服役的，如果他们是中国公民。
lcloo
I was working in China, and I watched CCTV7 regularly. There was a Uyghu
girl in PLA medical unit going round villages giving health aid. I remember
she was an officer but I forgot her rank.
There are also many non-Han PLA soldiers in Inner Mongolia and Guangxi
provinces. Zhuan people in Guangxi are non-Han Chinese.
我曾在中国工作过，时常看CCTV7军事频道，里面看到过一个维族医护兵女孩在给一些
村落的人们提供医疗救助，我记得她是个军官，但忘了是什么军衔了。
的确有很多非汉族士兵在内蒙古和广西服役的，广西的壮族就不是汉族人。
Damingli85
But I was born in China! I just got my citizenship here for college .
可我以前就出生在中国啊！我只是为了上大学才换成现在的国籍。（这个华人后悔换国
籍了）
backwindow
Although people from Hong Kong and Macau are legally Chinese citizen, they
do have different passport.
尽管香港人和澳门人都是中国公民，可他们却有着（跟大陆）不同的护照。
kw64
Quote:
Originally Posted by bd popeye
Thank you! No Tibetans..No Mongolians none of the non racially Chinese
people in western China or anywhere else in China. No foreigners.
You have to be a Chinese person born in China. Period.
Sorry but this claim is not true, it's not unusual for Chinese minorities to
serve in PLA:
很抱歉的说，bd popeye你的说法是不对的，中国少数民族去参军的情况很常见啊。
Here's an example of an Uygur officer:
下面就是一位维族军官的例子：
http://www.gmw.cn/CONTENT/2009-07/25/content_953564.htm
And a Tibetan officer:
而这是一位藏族军官：
http://military.people.com.cn/GB/107...3/7062275.html
tres
Quote:
Originally Posted by bd popeye
Thank you! No Tibetans..No Mongolians none of the non racially Chinese
people in western China or anywhere else in China. No foreigners.
You have to be a Chinese person born in China. Period.
That's not true. In the history of PLA, there were many people from other
countries, including USA, Canada, and India joined PLA. In fact two of the
most famous WWII era military doctors were Canadian and Indian.
bd popeye 你说的不对，在解放军历史上，有很多人是来自外国的，包括美国，加拿大
，印度等，实际上，（中国）抗日战争中最出名的两位军医，一个来自加拿大，一个来
自印度。
Today you could see Tibetan, Mongolian, Korean and Urger soldiers in
uniforms in different ranks.
如今，你可以找到很多军衔不一的藏族，蒙古族，维族的士兵。
bball2k
Hmm...this is interesting. Where did you hear that non racially Chinese
people cannot join the PLA? CCTV-7 has showed Tibetans in PLA a couple
months ago and you can watch those on youtube. Some are serving in the
Tibetan areas and some outside. Uyghurs have been shown also.
According to wiki, a ethnic Korean Zhao Nanqi(Cho Namgi) was a 3 star
general(1988) and a former director and party secretary of the PLA so it's
not like ethnic minorities can't rise to high ranks either.
恩，蛮有趣的，你们从哪听说非汉族人不能加入解放军的？ CCTV7几个月前刚刚播过一
期有关藏族士兵的节目，一些在西藏执勤，一些则在其他地方，关于维族士兵，也早就
播过了。
根据维基百科资料，一个名叫赵南起（Cho Namgi）朝鲜族人，官至3星上将（1988年）
，当过军队指战员，党委书记，所以说少数民族将领晋升受到限制的说法也不成立。
bd popeye
Quote:
Hmm...this is interesting. Where did you hear that non racially Chinese
people cannot join the PLA? CCTV-7 has showed Tibetans in PLA a couple
months ago and you can watch those on youtube. Some are serving in the
Tibetan areas and some outside. Uyghurs have been shown also.
According to wiki, a ethnic Korean Zhao Nanqi(Cho Namgi) was a 3 star
general(1988) and a former director and party secretary of the PLA so it's
not like ethnic minorities can't rise to high ranks either.
and...
Quote:
Originally Posted by backwindow
Tibetans & Mongolians & Uyghuｒs are doing service in PLA. If they are
chinese citizen.
Ooppss my bad Thanks for that information! I was unaware of that.
看来我错了，多谢指教，我以前还不知道呢。
第一阶段讨论结束。
PLA Soldier
OKey, thank you for your answer everyone. I have question, and that comes
now: If I would move to China, and gain citizenship of Peoples Republic of
China, would it be then possible for me to join PLA?
谢谢所有回复的人，现在我的新问题来了：如果我现在搬到中国去住，然后获得中国国
籍，那我再参军有戏吗？（这哥们怎么那么想参加解放军啊？）
bd popeye
Quote:
Originally Posted by PLA Soldier
OKey, thank you for your answer everyone. I have question, and that comes
now: If I would move to China, and gain citizenship of Peoples Republic of
China, would it be then possible for me to join PLA?
Nope..not as far as I know. But I could be wrong...but I don't think so.
至少就我看来，不行。不过也有可能我错了，但这种情况微乎其微。（变得谦虚了……
..一点）
Question for you PLA. In our forum here and our sister site sinodefence.com
there are hundreds and hundreds of pictuces of PLA soldiers. Thousands
proabaly...
问你个问题，在我们的论坛和姐妹网站sinodefence.com上面，有那么多的解放军照片
，可能成千上万张…
Since you are from Finland..May I ask are you white? That is my assumption.
So if you check out photos of the PLA have you evere seen a white westerner
in the uniform of the PLA? Ever??? Just asking.
鉴于你来自芬兰，请问你是白人吗？我就臆断如此吧，那么请你翻翻看这些照片，你能
找出一张，就一张，上面的解放军战士是穿着制服的白人吗？有过吗？我只是问一下。
PLA Soldier
Yes, I′m white western, and yes, I have never seen any white people in PLA
uniform. That is the reason why I′m asking this from you.
是的，我是西方白人，我也承认，我从未见到有白人穿着解放军的制服服役，可这也是
我向你问这个问题的原因。
HKSDU
Tibetans, Mongolians & Uyghuｒs are all still classfied as being ruled under
the PRC and in the end still Chinese, while Macau and Hong Kong are not.
Your not gonna be in the PLA if your not born in the country unless your a
spy. Which is always the case.
藏族人，蒙古人，维族人一直被认为处于中国的统治之下，但他们到底还是中国（大陆
）人，但对香港人，澳门人而言就不同了，不出生在中国大陆，想进解放军？门都没有
，除非你是去当（他们的）间谍。一直以来都是这样的（指招募港人，澳人做间谍）。
【此处多谢 传输用 大大】
lcloo
From my observation while in China, I have noticed that,
以我在中国观察的经历，曾经注意到一下的事情：
The recruitment exercise starts with a large red banner hung up by local
village or town government. At the same time local TV will broadcast the
time, place, age and document requirements. (In Shenzhen, almost every town
has its own TV broadcasting control).
征兵事宜一般被当地村镇政府大事操办，会悬挂红色的横幅来进行宣传，本地电视台会
广播征兵时间，地点，所需准备的材料。（在深圳，几乎每个村镇都有自己的闭路广播
电视）
I only witnessed one recruitment exercise in the same village which I stayed
for 7 years. I could have missed a few though. Also, may be because the PLA
was cutting down its size during those years, so less recruitments.
我在我待过7年的小集镇只目睹过一次这样的征兵行动，很可能我错过了一些吧。但也
有可能是因为这些年解放军一直在执行裁军政策吧，所以征兵次数减少也理所当然。
An important documrnt is Residence Card 户口issued by Public Security Bureau
. Only mainland Chinese citizens have this document, Hongkong and Macau
people don't have this as they are ruled under different laws. Without this
residence card, you have no way of getting in PLA. (Residence card is not ID
card, fake ID cards were easy to get but not residence cards).
（应征）的一个很重要的材料是你的户口本，由公安局颁发，只有大陆人才有这样的本
本，香港人，澳门人没有，因为一国两制嘛。没有这个小本子，你是无论如何也参不了
军的。（户口本不是身份证，假的身份证容易搞，可你搞个假户口本试试看？）
Interview was in collaboration with local town government. I think they want
to acertain the personal information and check for crime records, and also
priority will be given to member of communist party.
征兵也离不开本地政府的协助，我认为他们是想借此确认应征人员的个人信息，检查是
否曾有过犯罪记录，当然，中共党员有被优先招募的权利。
kw64
Quote:
Originally Posted by bd popeye
Nope..not as far as I know. But I could be wrong...but I don't think so.
Question for you PLA. In our forum here and our sister site sinodefence.com
there are hundreds and hundreds of pictuces of PLA soldiers. Thousands
proabaly...
Since you are from Finland..May I ask are you white? That is my assumption.
So if you check out photos of the PLA have you evere seen a white westerner
in the uniform of the PLA? Ever??? Just asking.
Quote:
Originally Posted by PLA Soldier
OKey, thank you for your answer everyone. I have question, and that comes
now: If I would move to China, and gain citizenship of Peoples Republic of
China, would it be then possible for me to join PLA?
Popeye:
I would say that's an underinformed conclusion, partially because the white/
black Chinese population is relatively small, so you don't see them in photo
ops very often...
对 Popeye说:
我得说，你的说法有欠推敲，（找不到白人解放军战士）的原因，一部分是因为黑或白
种中国人的比例在中国人口里相对较低，你看不到是很正常的
I'd suggest you to read the latest revised Chinese law regarding military
service, in Chapter 1, section 3: http://www.gov.cn/banshi/gm/content_63510.htm
我建议你读一读最新修订的中国解放军服役法，在第一章，第3节。
http://www.gov.cn/banshi/gm/content_63510.htm
It states "All Chinese citizen, regardless of ethnicity, race, occupation,
family background, or degree of education, have the full right to serve in
the military."
指出：凡中国公民，不管其种族，族群，职业，家庭背景，或教育程度，都享有到军队
服役的权利。
PLA did have two ethnic Russians serving as 1-star generals in the army back
in the 60s:
http://www.360doc.com/content/090716...1_4302019.html
回溯至 60年代，解放军里确实有两名俄罗斯裔的一星将军在役。
Here's some other examples of PLA soldier of Russian descent:
这里有几个其他俄罗斯后裔解放军战士的照片：
PLA Soldier:
对PLA Soldier说：
Yes, as what I said above, you can join PLA if you become a Chinese citizen.
If ethnically Russian Chinese can join the PLA, I'm pretty sure an
ethnically Finn Chinese can do the same. Plus it's all in their
consititution.
是的，我刚才讲过，你可以在成为一名中国公民之后加入中国人民解放军，如果连俄罗
斯裔的中国人都可以加入，我敢写包票，一个芬兰裔的中国人也可以做到，更何况这都
是在他们的宪法里明明白白写清楚了的。
Hope this helps!
希望能帮到你！
bd popeye
Thanks for clearing this subject up kw64.
Looks like I was wrong on several accounts. Thanks again for the correction.
多谢KW64，把这个问题说清楚了。
看来，我的解释有很多漏洞啊，再次感谢更正。
Violet Oboe
For more than 10 years after Hong Kong's reintegration there was a law in
effect that actually prohibited service in PLA for citizens of HKSAR.
However in late 2007 the law was modified and the regulatory statutes now
explicitly stipulate that every legal HKSAR citizen may serve in PLA.
香港回归超过10年以来，事实上曾经有部法律是禁止香港特别行政区的公民在解放军中
服役的，但是在2007年末，该法案被修订，现在的条文明确规定，凡合法香港特别行政
区公民均有权服役解放军。
Interestingly there were already rumors for some years that a number of Hong
Kong people had served in PLA and possibly the Mainland never took HK's
legislation seriously but of course the whole thing was only a placebo for
mitigating irrational fears of HK citizens about PLA recruiting arbitrarily
in HKSAR.
有意思的是，多年以来一直有这样的传闻：有一些香港人已经在军中服过役了，可能是
因为大陆从未认真对待香港的法制规定吧。不过，这整件事只是一针减缓恐惧的安慰剂
罢了，因为一直以来，香港人对解放军“专横”招募香港居民参军怀有莫名的忧虑。
Damingli85
Nice, since I was born in China and I am biologically Chinese, I could just
throw away my US citizenship and join the PLA. But then, Good Iron does not
become a nail, and a good man does not become a soldier.
不错，因为我出生在中国，我在血统上就是中国人，我可以扔掉我的美国护照，再加入
中国人民解放军！可是，好铁不成钉，好男不当兵啊（这是哪门子的口谚啊）
Engineer
I'm more interested in joining their weapons R&D.
我对如何参与他们的武器研发更感兴趣。
Finn McCool
I'm just curious, why do all these ethnic Chinese (or not even that
apparently) want to join the PLA so badly?
我只是好奇，为何所有的这些少数族裔的中国人（或者看上去连中国人都不是）这么急
切的想加入解放军呢？
PLA Soldier
Quote:
Originally Posted by kw64
Popeye:
I would say that's an underinformed conclusion, partially because the white/
black Chinese population is relatively small, so you don't see them in photo
ops very often...
I'd suggest you to read the latest revised Chinese law regarding military
service, in Chapter 1, section 3: ??????????????
It states "All Chinese citizen, regardless of ethnicity, race, occupation,
family background, or degree of education, have the full right to serve in
the military."
PLA did have two ethnic Russians serving as 1-star generals in the army back
in the 60s:
Here's some other examples of PLA soldier of Russian descent:
PLA Soldier:
Yes, as what I said above, you can join PLA if you become a Chinese citizen.
If ethnically Russian Chinese can join the PLA, I'm pretty sure an
ethnically Finn Chinese can do the same. Plus it's all in their
consititution.
Hope this helps!
YES!!!! It really does help me! Thank you very much! Seems like that I have
to douple my efforts in my studies of chinese lanquage.
太感谢了！！！！确实太有用了，现在我应该怀疑我在学习中文上所下的功夫了。
第二部分讨论结束，迄今为止，大家理性讨论，楼基正正的。
vladimir1918
Quote:
Originally Posted by Finn McCool
I'm just curious, why do all these ethnic Chinese (or not even that
apparently) want to join the PLA so badly?
Because they hate freedom!
因为他们讨厌自由！
The answer is very simple. The ethnic Chinese youth you meet on this forum
are interesting in PLA, if they want to join other countries army they will
not be on this forum.
I bet you can find Taiwan people with dual citizenship who want to join the
ROC Amry in some Taiwan military forum.
答案很简单，在这个论坛上你遇到的少数民族的中国年轻人，都对加入解放军感兴趣，
如果他们想加入别的国家的军队，他们就不会在这个帖子下面留言了。
跟你赌吧，可以拥有双重国籍，并且想加入中华民国的军队的台湾人，你可以在台湾的
军事论坛里一抓一大把。
feifei
according to some report published in chinese froum,some divisions,which had
serviced in the fouth Field Army of PLA, raised many koreas in the War of
Liberatio. and then these koreas came the Korean War.
根据一些在中国论坛上公布的报告，解放军第四野战军旗下的一些部队在解放战争期间
曾征募了很多的朝鲜裔人，之后的韩战（抗美援朝），是这些人奔赴到前线参战的。
PLA Soldier
kw64, thank you very much! Your information has been most usefull this far.
KW64，多谢你了！你提供的信息目前最有用了！
kw64
Quote:
Originally Posted by Finn McCool
I'm just curious, why do all these ethnic Chinese (or not even that
apparently) want to join the PLA so badly?
Well there are plenty of foreign nationals in the U.S. military and French
Military, so I guess it's not completely unusual wanting to join some other
nation's military.
话说回来，在美国和法国军队里面都有很多外国裔战士啊，所以我想，这种想参加别的
国家的军队的想法并不是完全不可理喻的。
Quote:
Originally Posted by PLA Soldier
kw64, thank you very much! Your information has been most usefull this far.
No problem It's actually surprisingly easy to apply for Chinese citizenship.
The only prerequisite requirement is that you have to be a legal residence
living in China. There are no language or minimum years of stay requirements
. Due to the economic boom, in recent years there's a spike in number of
foreign nationals applying for Chinese citizenship (mostly from Africa and
South/Southeastern Asia), and the Chinese government generally maintains a
relatively open policy towards Citizenship Applicants so far (unless there's
politically sensitive issue involved). The only one thing is that the
Chinese government does not recognize duo-citizenship, so you have to give
up your previous citizenship once you got the Chinese citizenship.
不用谢啦，事实上，现在申请中国国籍巨简单，唯一的先决条件就是，你是生活在中国
境内的合法居民，还没有语言或者居住年限的要求。源于经济的迅猛发展，这些年，申
请中国国籍的外国人数量出现井喷（大部分来自非洲，南亚，东南亚）。目前为止，中
国政府总体上执行的是一个相对开放宽松的公民申请政策（除非涉及到政治性敏感区域
）。唯一需要记住的是，中国政府不承认双重国籍，所以，在获得中国国籍的时候，无
可避免地，你同时就失去了你的先前国籍。
lcloo
To Finn McCool
对Finn McCool说：
Joinging PLA is a family honour in China nowadays. There is a saying in
China that you get paid joining army in foreign countries but you have to
pay to joing the PLA.
加入解放军如今被视为一种家族荣誉，在中国有这种说法：在别的国家，是别人花钱请
你参军，在中国，是你自己花钱来求参军。
Honor is something all face loving Chinese treasured. Also they get trained
in PLA for various skill like driving, engine repairs etc. Other benifits
like vocational traning and job placement after discharge, pirority in
getting railway tickets, special rates hotels for servicemen all over China.
荣誉感，是所有爱面子的中国人都珍视的。在军中，他们还接受诸如驾驶，引擎维修等
等的技能培训，其他好处像，职业培训，退役后的工作分配（貌似已经不分配了吧），
轨道交通乘车优先，差行人员旅馆住宿费减免等等。
People in poor villages are living in extreme hard conditions, and joining
PLA and getting trained is a dream to many.
对于大多数生活在农村极端困苦环境下的人们来说，参军受训绝对是可遇而不可求的。
PLA Soldier
Weel, I did already know that cost of getting Chinas citizenship is to give
up old citizenship. But, still, it would be the cost of joining the PLA. Yes
, I′m seriously thinking about joining the Chinas army.
我已经知道了换取中国国籍的代价就是丢掉原来的国籍，可是，比较能加入中国解放军
这件事而言，代价依然是值得的。是的，我正在认真的考虑这件事。
LostWraith
Quote:
Originally Posted by Finn McCool
I'm just curious, why do all these ethnic Chinese (or not even that
apparently) want to join the PLA so badly?
Joining the PLA has many social benefits when you retire as a veteran, and
you can learn many skills that may be helpful in finding a job in an urban
center later on. You get a decent salary and is free from housing and living
expenses.
参加解放军后，一旦你服役期满退伍，是可以享受很多的社会福利的。你可以学到一些
用得上就业技能，（服役期间）每个月领到一份不错的薪水，而且没有住房，生活上的
开支。
Another bonus is that since China is at peace and is in no hurry to fight
wars everywhere, you don't really have a chance of getting killed (accidents
aside but those are present in civi life as well). This makes the army a
safe job and a good one.
另外一个好处，鉴于中国现在处于和平时期，没必要担心会打仗，所以你丢掉性命的可
能性微乎其微（事故致死另当别说，因为在日常生活中，也会发生的）。在中国，凡此
种种，使得参军变成一份安全并且体面的工作。
T-U-P
Quote:
Originally Posted by PLA Soldier
Weel, I did already know that cost of getting Chinas citizenship is to give
up old citizenship. But, still, it would be the cost of joining the PLA. Yes
, I′m seriously thinking about joining the Chinas army.
You do realized that as a foreigner, china doesn't give out its citizenship
easily. It's not like Canada where you will get one if you stay for x number
of years. Last time I heard from the news was that China only grants
citizenship to distinguished individuals who made an impact for a better
China.
你也知道啊，对于一个外国人，中国是不会轻易地颁发给他一个公民身份的。不像在加
拿大，只要待够X年，你就可以拿到公民证了。之前我听到一个新闻，说中国政府只会
将永久公民身份颁给对中国有杰出贡献的个人。
PLA Soldier
I understand that Chinese citizenship is hard to get. If they ask reason, I
say that I want to join PLA, and you know, fresh meat for the grindery?
我了解拿到中国国籍的困难程度，如果他们问我申请理由，我就说，我想加入中国人民
解放军！你们知道的，玉不琢不成器嘛。
PLA Soldier
So, the conclusion: So, it is possible for western men to join PLA, if they
move to China first and gain citizenship. What comes to the other discussion
, good mens does become soldiers. If not, this world would be much more
darker place to live.
现在我来做结吧：一个外国人加入解放军是可能的，前提是他们必须搬到中国去住并且
获得中国国籍。至于我们讨论的第二个话题，我认为好男儿应胸怀投笔从戎，惩恶扬善
之志。如果没有了这份志向，我想这个世界会变得更加黑暗不堪吧。
翻译了大概一半，一个芬兰人急切想加入解放军的确实很奇怪。不过，对于一个15岁的
少年，3分钟的热情是常事，想必很多人都会怀疑他的这份热情的持久性，之后的评论
开始出现这方面的讨论，包括有些人质疑 KW64是否美化了参加解放军后的待遇，对获
得中国国籍的申请条件有所隐瞒，来故意诱导这个少年等等……
先翻译这么多吧，得出去吃饭了，明天再继续吧。 |
