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烦死电视里这些无脑的动不动就twitter的了。
Egypt is burning and most western pundits have no idea why
Cairo is burning. So is Egypt. Twitter is exploding. Everyone seems to have
an opinion—many who do have never even been to Egypt but feel a strong
sense of solidarity with the most remarkable revolution in a generation,
perhaps. A revolution which importantly is not really caused by Twitter or
by Facebook—as much as the self congratulatory social networking types in
the West would like to believe.
Full disclosure: Sleepless but still sitting in relative comfort in my
Manhattan apartment I am one of those relentless tweeters. However my
obsession stems from a long love and association with Egypt and the presence
of way too many friends who have jumped into the chaos not really knowing
what consequences their actions might have for themselves or their friends
and families.
I must also be clear. At this point, on this the longest Egyptian night in a
generation, perhaps longer—most Western self professed Islam/Middle East
and other assorted pundits have no clue about the harsh reality of Egyptian
life. Many have probably never taken a walk down Mashriet Nasser, the
largest slum in Cairo. This is why the do not realize that this “revolution
” is not about social networking and its success. The majority of the 80
million people of Egypt live in abject poverty. They do not even have cell-
phones let alone smartphones like the iPhone or the Droid. They go to kiosks
to make calls. A pretty substantial number of them have NEVER used the
internet and do not have email accounts: the complicated mechanisms of self-
promotion and information gathering and sharing on social networks is not a
part of their lives—they have never had the money or the resources to get
access to this other world which often lives in the relatively more affluent
neighborhoods like Zamalek or Garden City or Mohandaseen—all within some
walking distance of where the dissent started in Tahrir Square.
The majority of the protesters in Cairo, in Suez, in Alexandria, in Luxor,
in Mahla, in Manoura and all over this ancient land which is the very heart
of what it means to be Arab—are not “twittering” or “facebooking” or “
emailing” or even watching the landmark live coverage that Al-Jazeera is
providing. They are out on the streets—and yes, without phone access—
risking their lives and giving vent to three decades and perhaps more, of
anger.
They are fighting for very basic human rights. They are fighting for
affordable food. They are fighting for dignity. They are fighting for
accountability. They are fighting to somehow improve the non-existent
financial opportunities in their lives.
They are not interested in Mohamed AlBaradei’s Nobel prize or his rather
recent and opportunist political ambitions. Most of them have not really
seen him and have no idea of what he has been up to for the last three
decades as they have suffered. They are angry that he decided to show up
just last night and started posturing immediately as the potential savior
and the best person to lead them into their uncertain future. Many here in
the West would be surprised to know that a lot of these simple folk would
actually prefer the “Muslim Brotherhood” taking over. Atleast they
recognize the “Islam Light” the Brotherhood has honed to perfection after
a pretty radical and conservative beginning with an idealogue like Banna.
My friend Fouad Hani though has had access to all of the above including a
very nice smartphone. That has not deterred him from stepping out every
night and after about six hours of trying I get him on the phone.
As always here are his primary bullet points unfiltered in his voice from a
brief phone conversation (and yes, he has been dodging very real bullets
today)
* My beloved city is on fire. My country is on fire. But each one of us
on the streets is also on fire
* I am exhausted. Mobinil is down. So is Vodaphone. I have no idea what
is happening beyond what I have seen myself. Facebook and Twitter seem like
a joke right now
* I live in Mohandaseen and decided not to go the big Mostafa Mahmood
mosque near my house, because I know that “they” would be there.I went to
pray at a smaller mosque. It was beautiful to pray. I had tears
* But as soon as we stepped out they pelted us with tear gas and with
tear gas canisters. We threw them back. But my hand got burnt
* They tried to separate all of us as we walked towards Tahrir square
* Police were throwing rocks at us
* There are bruises and bumps all over my body
* I saw two bodies on the ground in Tahrir. Like an animal I just kept
on walking past them
* We threw Molotov cocktails at the police
* Is there a curfew Parvez? Really? I had no idea—it certainly did not
look like a curfew when I was just walking home
* Has Obama said anything? I don’t expect much from him anyway, this
Mubarak is his “puppy”
* Mubarak should go and share a room with that asshole Ben Ali in his
Jiddah hotel! We were chanting that in Tahrir.
* This is a joke. Btw can Obama find a working fucking phone in this
country? I guess Mubarak’s phone is working rt?
* Pray for us.
Fouad is one of the smartest young Egyptians I know. He has a ready wit. And
I have always had a crush on him. He doesn’t know. Maybe he will after
this? (if he can get online again).
As has happened with every one of my phone conversations with my friends in
Cairo, I get disconnected. Silence again.
One more friend, for me to pray for.
Mubarak meanwhile stays in hiding somewhere possibly in his presidential
palace in Heliopolis. The army is rolling through Egypt’s battered and
smoky streets. Al Jazeera continues to televise this “revolution” like no
other network has ever done before. Perhaps the pro-Israel lobbies in the US
will start to respect this amazing network and allow it to broadcast freely
in this nation?
Last night I said—Will it be the scent of Jasmine or the smell of blood in
Egypt today?
I now have my answer. We all do.
http://mondoweiss.net/2011/01/egypt-is-burning-and-most-western
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【在 P*****t 的大作中提到】
: 烦死电视里这些无脑的动不动就twitter的了。
: Egypt is burning and most western pundits have no idea why
: Cairo is burning. So is Egypt. Twitter is exploding. Everyone seems to have
: an opinion—many who do have never even been to Egypt but feel a strong
: sense of solidarity with the most remarkable revolution in a generation,
: perhaps. A revolution which importantly is not really caused by Twitter or
: by Facebook—as much as the self congratulatory social networking types in
: the West would like to believe.
: Full disclosure: Sleepless but still sitting in relative comfort in my
: Manhattan apartment I am one of those relentless tweeters. However my

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