r******y
发帖数: 9892 | 1 http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110307/wl_nm/us_china_npc_tibet
BEIJING (Reuters) – Tibet's exiled spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, does
not have a right to choose his successor any way he wants and must follow
the historical and religious tradition of reincarnation, a Chinese official
said Monday.
It is unclear how the 76-year-old Dalai Lama, who lives in India and is
revered by many Tibetans, plans to pick his successor. He has said that the
succession process could break with tradition -- either by being hand-picked
by him or through democratic elections.
But Padma Choling, the Chinese-appointed governor of Tibet, said that the
Dalai Lama had no right to abolish the institution of reincarnation,
underscoring China's hardline stance on one of the most sensitive issues for
the restless and remote region.
"I don't think this is appropriate. It's impossible, that's what I think,"
he said on the sidelines of the annual meeting of China's parliament, when
asked about the Dalai Lama's suggestion that his successor may not be his
reincarnation.
"We must respect the historical institutions and religious rituals of
Tibetan Buddhism," said Padma Choling, a Tibetan and a former soldier in the
People's Liberation Army. "I am afraid it is not up to anyone whether to
abolish the reincarnation institution or not."
The Chinese government says it has to approve all reincarnations of living
Buddhas, or senior religious figures in Tibetan Buddhism. It also says China
has to sign off on the choosing of the next Dalai Lama.
"Tibetan Buddhism has a history of more than 1,000 years, and the
reincarnation institutions of the Dalai Lama and Panchen Lama have been
carried on for several hundred years," Padma Choling said.
Some worry that once the Dalai Lama dies, China will simply appoint its own
successor, raising the possibility of there being two Dalai Lamas -- one
recognized by China and the other chosen by exiles or with the blessing of
the current Dalai Lama.
In 1995, after the Dalai Lama named a boy in Tibet as the reincarnation of
the previous Panchen Lama, the second highest figure in Tibetan Buddhism,
the Chinese government put that boy under house arrest and installed another
in his place.
Many Tibetans spurn the Chinese-appointed Panchen Lama as a fake.
The Chinese government accuses the Dalai Lama of fomenting violence to seek
Tibet's independence. He rejects the claim, saying he is just pushing for
greater autonomy.
Tibetan protests led by Buddhist monks against Chinese rule in March 2008
gave way to torrid violence, with rioters torching shops and turning on
residents, especially Han Chinese, who many Tibetans see as intruders
threatening their culture.
At least 19 people died in the unrest, which sparked waves of protests
across Tibetan areas. Pro-Tibet groups overseas say more than 200 people
were killed in a subsequent crackdown.
With the third anniversary of that unrest approaching, Tibet has taken
measures to restrict visitors.
Zhang Qingli, Tibet's hardline Communist Party chief, told reporters the
restrictions were due to the "cold winter," a slew of religious activities
and limited number of hotels.
"This is in accordance with national laws," he said.
China has ruled Tibet with an iron fist since Communist troops marched in
1950. It says its rule has bought much needed development to a poor and
backward region.
Exiles and rights groups accuse China of failing to respect Tibet's unique
religion and culture and of suppressing its people. |
d***y
发帖数: 8536 | |
b*******8
发帖数: 37364 | 3 其实大家都知道转世是老和尚最大的硬伤，土鳖一直以来的策略就是等他死。随着时间
推移，老和尚的利用价值是越来越低了。 |
D****u
发帖数: 3217 | 4 他可以在印度转一次吧
两个达赖
【在 b*******8 的大作中提到】
: 其实大家都知道转世是老和尚最大的硬伤，土鳖一直以来的策略就是等他死。随着时间
: 推移，老和尚的利用价值是越来越低了。
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d****z
发帖数: 9503 | 5 哪个达赖选择自己的successor了？
does
follow
official
the
picked
the
【在 r******y 的大作中提到】
: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110307/wl_nm/us_china_npc_tibet
: BEIJING (Reuters) – Tibet's exiled spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, does
: not have a right to choose his successor any way he wants and must follow
: the historical and religious tradition of reincarnation, a Chinese official
: said Monday.
: It is unclear how the 76-year-old Dalai Lama, who lives in India and is
: revered by many Tibetans, plans to pick his successor. He has said that the
: succession process could break with tradition -- either by being hand-picked
: by him or through democratic elections.
: But Padma Choling, the Chinese-appointed governor of Tibet, said that the
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l******e
发帖数: 12192 | 6 没用
【在 D****u 的大作中提到】
: 他可以在印度转一次吧
: 两个达赖
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D****u
发帖数: 3217 | 7 他可以指向的
对范围做出规定
比如转世的时候
母亲身旁要有咖哩饭和洗屁股的水盆
还要靠近恒河
【在 d****z 的大作中提到】
: 哪个达赖选择自己的successor了？
:
: does
: follow
: official
: the
: picked
: the
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d****z
发帖数: 9503 | 8 确实如此。且不说土共会给他转世。就算他们自己转世，弄出了娃娃。十八年内，
他们自己内部的权力斗争都打破头了。然后如果小达赖有幸活到十八岁，要亲政
又是一场斗争。
【在 b*******8 的大作中提到】
: 其实大家都知道转世是老和尚最大的硬伤，土鳖一直以来的策略就是等他死。随着时间
: 推移，老和尚的利用价值是越来越低了。
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D****u
发帖数: 3217 | 9 雄天宗不行了
达赖集团内部是团结的
【在 d****z 的大作中提到】
: 确实如此。且不说土共会给他转世。就算他们自己转世，弄出了娃娃。十八年内，
: 他们自己内部的权力斗争都打破头了。然后如果小达赖有幸活到十八岁，要亲政
: 又是一场斗争。
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p****n
发帖数: 9263 | 10 你这样搞出个“白种人”活佛来，藏人能接受吗
【在 D****u 的大作中提到】
: 他可以指向的
: 对范围做出规定
: 比如转世的时候
: 母亲身旁要有咖哩饭和洗屁股的水盆
: 还要靠近恒河
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D****u
发帖数: 3217 | 11 藏人什么时候算过数
谁养着他们,谁说话算数.
【在 p****n 的大作中提到】
: 你这样搞出个“白种人”活佛来，藏人能接受吗
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d****z
发帖数: 9503 | 12 那是因为有达赖在。他死了，搞出个小娃娃，然后要有摄政，那时候才
看出团结不团结。然后摄政摄了18年，达赖要亲政，那时候又有团结的
问题了。呵呵。
这种制度性的小娃娃上台的东东只能是地方政权的制度。独立政权搞这个
就是自寻死路。清朝废藏王尊活佛，基本就堵死了西藏独立的可能。
【在 D****u 的大作中提到】
: 雄天宗不行了
: 达赖集团内部是团结的
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h***i
发帖数: 89031 | 13 无所谓
境外立几个达赖都可以
拉萨这帮僧侣按照传统搞一个，真假两个班禅一起确认
内地的僧侣都听这个自立的达赖就行乐
【在 p****n 的大作中提到】
: 你这样搞出个“白种人”活佛来，藏人能接受吗
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L**i
发帖数: 22365 | 14 没听过达赖还能民主选举的……
这不是自己打自己耳光么 = = |
m********r
发帖数: 2895 | 15 转世制度最大的弱点就是有十几年权力真空---古代最怕的就是主少国疑，所以需要立
长君。
转世制度还专门把没有长君给制度化了。如果达赖班禅立场一致还可以互补，但几百年
中很少真的实现过这种理想状态。 |
J********a
发帖数: 5208 | 16 所以说西藏是中国一部分，达赖只不过是省长级
【在 m********r 的大作中提到】
: 转世制度最大的弱点就是有十几年权力真空---古代最怕的就是主少国疑，所以需要立
: 长君。
: 转世制度还专门把没有长君给制度化了。如果达赖班禅立场一致还可以互补，但几百年
: 中很少真的实现过这种理想状态。
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t*****9
发帖数: 10416 | 17 独裁的达赖 在民主的时代，也玩不转了耶 ~~~~~~lol
【在 d****z 的大作中提到】
: 那是因为有达赖在。他死了，搞出个小娃娃，然后要有摄政，那时候才
: 看出团结不团结。然后摄政摄了18年，达赖要亲政，那时候又有团结的
: 问题了。呵呵。
: 这种制度性的小娃娃上台的东东只能是地方政权的制度。独立政权搞这个
: 就是自寻死路。清朝废藏王尊活佛，基本就堵死了西藏独立的可能。
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r******y
发帖数: 9892 | 18 满清因为自己也是少数民族出身，而且也信这教，在这方面还是抓住了关键的。一个是
对藏族，一个是对蒙族，都算处理得比较成功。回教相对就处理得不那么太成功。可见
知己知彼百战不殆还是箴言。
【在 d****z 的大作中提到】
: 那是因为有达赖在。他死了，搞出个小娃娃，然后要有摄政，那时候才
: 看出团结不团结。然后摄政摄了18年，达赖要亲政，那时候又有团结的
: 问题了。呵呵。
: 这种制度性的小娃娃上台的东东只能是地方政权的制度。独立政权搞这个
: 就是自寻死路。清朝废藏王尊活佛，基本就堵死了西藏独立的可能。
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c****u
发帖数: 8308 | 19 只要内地稳定, 西藏新疆就没事. 以现在的国力, 任何外力也无法使这些地方成为各种
运动的源发地. 再关注好民生,其他的事爱咋咋地了,无论达赖还是东秃,谁也翻不了天
的. |
r******y
发帖数: 1785 | 20 没关系吧，反正阿3都是呵成一个13样
【在 p****n 的大作中提到】
: 你这样搞出个“白种人”活佛来，藏人能接受吗
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