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发帖数: 26222 | 1 SEAL TEAM 6 WERE DOOMED SINCE THE FAKE MURDER OF OBL
Strange Coincidence Surrounding a Known Conspiracy
Tony Cartalucci. Featured Writer
What is a known fact is that Osama Bin Laden was not killed earlier this
year during the hyped-Pakistan raid, but rather died nearly a decade ago due
to health problems. This means that whoever landed in Pakistan and murdered
the people occupying the alleged “Bin Laden” compound, just a stone’s
throw away from a nearby CIA safe house, killed someone else. It is quite
clear that these people, alleged to have been members of the ultra-secret
SEAL Team 6, would then be liabilities to whoever attempted to foist this
hoax upon the world.
With that in mind, all the way back in May 2011, Infowars Ireland’s Declan
O’Shea predicted SEAL Team 6 would be inevitably eliminated. It appears now
, after reports of “US troops” dying in a helicopter crash in Afghanistan,
that a large part of SEAL Team 6 died with them. In fact, allegedly 22 SEAL
Team 6 members are said to have died in the crash, just 2 short of the 24
that allegedly participated in the “Bin Laden” raid. The Pentagon was
quick to point out that, even though the identities of SEAL Team 6 members
are all closely guarded secrets – they are “sure” none of those who
recently died had taken part in the “Osama Bin Laden” assassination. | x******g
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发帖数: 26222 | 3 下面这则新闻也佐证我的部分猜测，在筹划拍摄击毙拉登白宫宣传片期间，参加击毙拉
登海豹被歼灭，这不能说是偶然巧合
美政府协拍击毙拉登题材电影被指泄密 白宫否认
2011年08月11日20:52:50 [海外新闻]
编者按：以追踪“基地”组织前头号人物乌萨马·本·拉登为题材的电影筹拍之际，美
国国会众议院国土安全委员会主席彼得·金9日说，政府与制片方打交道，可能会涉及
机密，危害国家安全，应着手调查。白宫10日回应，这纯属“无稽之谈”。
直言“荒唐”
本·拉登电影由凯瑟琳·比奇洛执导。比奇洛凭借美军在伊拉克行动的战争题材影片《
拆弹部队》声名鹊起，获得第82届奥斯卡最佳导演奖。
白宫发言人杰伊·卡尼在10日白宫新闻发布会上说，电影制片方与政府工作人员接触，
讨论仅限奥巴马在追踪本·拉登行动中所起的作用。
卡尼说，政府提供的信息与先前发布信息没有不同，“不涉机密”；众议院国土安全委
员会主席关于可能危害国家安全的说法简直“荒唐”。
“我希望，”卡尼说，“在我们面对恐怖主义持续威胁的时候，众议院国土安全委员会
能讨论更为重要的主题，而不是一部电影。”m
常规协助
国防部下属一个两人办公室负责与娱乐媒体沟通，包括向电影、电视、电脑游戏等娱乐
媒体制作方提供协助。
这一办公室的负责人菲尔·施特鲁布说：“多数情况下，电影导演联系我们，希望能使
用我们的设备、人员和军事基地。技术建议可以说是这种关系的副产品。”
按国防部发言人、海军陆战队上校戴夫·拉潘的说法，国防部正与导演比奇洛和编剧马
克·博尔合作，在剧本研究方面提供协助。不过，那是常规协助，“我们没有讨论机密
信息。”声明说，电影旨在反映美国所取得的“胜利”，而不是其他。Mm
危害安全
众议院国土安全委员会主席金9日致信中央情报局督察长戴维·巴克利和国防部督察长
戈登·赫德尔，称应注意媒体对比奇洛获得高度机密军事行动信息的报道。
金写道，“我写信表达对敏感军事行动机密信息持续泄露的关注”。电影涉及“海豹”
突击队高度机密军事行动，政府给予技术指导恐怕会增大泄露机密的风险。
金说，编剧博尔据信出席了一场高度机密的仪式，内容是表彰打死本·拉登的“海豹”
突击队队员。中情局和国防部有必要彻查政府与这些电影人的合作，以防国家安全受到
危害。
due
murdered
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: SEAL TEAM 6 WERE DOOMED SINCE THE FAKE MURDER OF OBL
: Strange Coincidence Surrounding a Known Conspiracy
: Tony Cartalucci. Featured Writer
: What is a known fact is that Osama Bin Laden was not killed earlier this
: year during the hyped-Pakistan raid, but rather died nearly a decade ago due
: to health problems. This means that whoever landed in Pakistan and murdered
: the people occupying the alleged “Bin Laden” compound, just a stone’s
: throw away from a nearby CIA safe house, killed someone else. It is quite
: clear that these people, alleged to have been members of the ultra-secret
: SEAL Team 6, would then be liabilities to whoever attempted to foist this
| s********n
发帖数: 26222 | 4 veterans today issues a scathing report on this propagandist ploy. Good
report. Another sign veterans aren't buying the ploy of deception.
“Bin Laden” Heroes Probably Murderered to Keep Them Quiet. Some Possibly
Killed in Abbottabad Helicopter Crash Months Before
Today 31 NATO troops, 20 of them Navy Seals from the Osama bin Laden
operation died in what is reported as a helicopter crash in Afghanistan.
The chances of this story being true is almost nil. The chances of this
being a staged coverup is over 80%. We believe these people were murdered
to silence them. This is why.
We have solid information on two areas:
1. Osama bin Laden died in 2001 as an active CIA employee and his body
was recovered in Afghanistan and taken to “the sand box.” We were told it
was frozen. We have so much verification from this, CIA, ISI, US military
and top officials. I have a direct confirmation from Bin Laden’s CIA
handler who I grilled mercilessly on this.
2. The Abbottabad operation involved numerous American deaths, witnessed,
bodies all over, a helicopter crash. (suppressed translated TV interview
below) These bodies were recovered by land vehicle from Islamabad and there
was NO “successful” bin Laden operation of any kind. There was and has
been a CIA safe house in Abbotabad where terror suspects were stored for
years.
This gave the US several areas of severe vulnerability. Generally, Navy
Seals are the best people in the world at keeping their mouths shut, these
are real team players, as the term “Seal Team” belies.
We at VT were informed that the bin Laden operation was staged at this
time, a theatrical farce, to cover the exit of Secretary Gates, the move by
former CIA Director Leon Panetta into the DOD as Secretary of Defense and to
stem any heroic claims by new CIA Director Petraeus of killing the long
dead Osama bin Laden, the long frozen CIA operative.
Petraeus is a possible presidential contender and had to be denied this “
gift from heaven,” a fast track to the oval office for sure.
Will We Ever Know What Happened?
Again, I remind you, I went over specific meetings on bin Laden with his
handlers, getting every last detail. I have watched what has gone on, the
continuing need to vilify a long dead top CIA operative to provide residual
cover for the Bush administration….
The reason? Bush and his cronies are all facing charges of war crimes, not
just in minor jurisdictions but heading for the ICC, putting them on the
dock with Gaddafi ( a far less harmful character).
As for the timing of this incident? This we will work on. What we can
easily surmise is that some of the dead have been dead since their bodies
were taken away from the helicopter crash site in Abbotabad.
Who would order such a thing? We are going to have to wait but we are going
to find out. However, we expected this, the timing is exactly as predicted.
HOW VT TRIED TO SAVE THEM
When the phony Abbotbad operation came out, I immediately understood what
happened. I also saw much potential good from it other than the tragedy of
the dead Americans from the crash. I wrote of this and see their deaths as
more heroic than many recognize.
They died to erase for all time remnants of the Bush era fairly tale of
badguy and evildoer Osama bin Laden. Enough good men had died chasing a
ghost who lived only in phony video and audio tapes by “Bin Laden Studios”
in Tel Aviv and in the continual “boogeyman” rhetoric of professional
fearmongers.
Not long afterward, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, another able public
servant announced the near defeat of Al Qaeda, another Bush fairly tale.
Al Qaeda has never existed, there are no magic worldwide terror
conspiracies other than those run by governments. There are several of
those and I have written extensively on these. Google will help you with
this if you are curious.
When VT saw why the government staged this, we saw we could accomplish two
things:
1. We could simply report the truth for those willing to believe it,
something we believe is the right thing to do.
2. We could also support the United States in a very real way, knowing
Pakistan would weather this crisis, timed, in some ways, as a face saving
move in response to the embarrassing Raymond Davis affair. I believed if
the truth came out, clear enough for insiders, intel and miliary for sure,
to understand that we knew and other insiders knew, there would be no reason
to “clean house” afterward, to stage a coverup and get rid of any
involved.
Abbotabad - How Many Died Here?
I had felt that we had provided cover for the Seal Team, we hadn’t trashed
them, we acknowledged the dead at Abbotabad where no one else bothered, this
is our job as fellow members of America’s military forces (current and
former).
More importantly, we got out word, I certainly did enough radio and TV on
this, enough that, for anyone who care, the “truth was out there.”
This is all we could do but I hoped it would stem a need for covering tracks
. After all, anyone leaking real information on the operation would only
seem like they had gotten it from me and I put it out there in such a manner
that I allowed room to be “debunked.”
I do this to protect myself but I really was thinking of them. These are
great guys, Seals are among the best people on earth. The Seal and Special
Forces communities are, of the military groups in the US, some of the finest
people I know.
They also help cover my “behind,” which I appreciate.
This is just too obvious, too brazen. I can’t imagine it started at
the White House or even cabinet level but maybe I am deluding myself. Bin
Laden was all about the election.
After the bond collapse and credit disaster yesterday, anything threatening
President Obama’s reelection is seen, by some, as a threat to America’s
financial survival. This debt crisis is a bigger threat to the US than a
Japanese invasion in 1942 would have been.
You may not see it that way and you certainly cant get out your hunting
rifle to fix it. (Don’t be a sap, kill a Jap!)
Osama in Better Days
Someone had gotten to someone. My best guess and this is a guess…an expose
’ by the mainstream media, perhaps Murdoch, another guess, conjecture I
admit, regarding the farce at Abbottabad, information possibly gotten
through spying, bribery and blackmail, threatened to take down Obama.
With Murdoch’s good friend and “monkeyboy,” Netanyahu ‘on the ropes,”
with crowds marching in Israel’s streets demanding his ouster, we have more
timing to factor in.
The bin Laden killing, the third rate drama of capturing an unarmed frozen
dead guy and throwing him into the ocean had probably become an albatross
around certain high ranking necks.
Norway was no accident, it was a warning too. It has been containerized,
just as the Murdoch espionage issue is now “poor Rupert and the pie thrower
.”
These Americans are casualties in a game, one like 9/11, sacrificial pawns,
like Britain’s 7/7, all lies, all theatre, all evil.
This is not for public consumption. There are those who know exactly
who I am talking to.
There are many of us here who still keep our mouths shut about so many
things. There are too many who don’t even care, most of us at VT do. Yes,
I am aware I can be jailed, I am aware my passport can be pulled, I already
see the damned surveillance.
Amateurs.
We aren’t anti-American. I am simply sick of seeing solutions that go one
direction, stealing everything that isn’t nailed down. I am also sick of
the fact that Washington can’t visit the “head’ without Israel’s
permission.
This…today, this is too much. It is unforgivable. We are not going to
allow this to stand.
We have a long standing history of “cleaning house” after operations of
this kind. Usually its dead senators in plane crashes, heart attacks, car
wrecks, like the Minot Barksdale or 9/11 incidents. I could name a dozen
more. Does the name Wheeler meaning anything to you? Anyone remember Pat
Tillman?
But this many?
Anchor: Welcome back, Mohammad Bashir is a resident of Abboottabad’s
Bilal Town. Muhammad Bashir might seem an ordinary guy but he is no ordinary
guy. Muhammad Bashir lives in front of Osama Ben Laden’s house in Bilal
Town Abbottabad. On 2nd of May, Muhammad Bashir was present on his rooftop
from where he saw the whole American operation against Osama Ben Laden with
his own eyes. Yesterday when our team was present In Bilal Town, Abbottabad,
near Osama Ben Laden’s hose, Muhammad Bashir came to us and said, “Sister
, I need to tell you something, something that is a burden on my heart and
soul”, just listen to what he said.
Bashir: I am going to share something about the Abbottabad operation
which till this day nobody else has told you.
Anchor: But Muhammad Bashir was a little afraid too, while talking to me
he telephoned hia reletive, Vice President of Jummat-e-Islami, Abdur Razzaq
Abasi, watch it
Reporter: Tell me your name and tell me whare do you live
Bashir: Let me first, Let me talk to him one minute, i will give you
full interview, full or half?
Reporter: Full Full
Bashir: Let me first talk to him
Reporter: To whom? To Abbasi?
Bashir: yes, to Abbasi
Anchor: Muhammad Bashir told us something that no one said before. So we
checked his identity card, we also confirmed that he really lives there, we
asked from the senior fellows about him. We were very astonished by his
story just see and listen what he said.
Bashir: We were awake, not asleep, a helicopter came, some men came down
from that, into that house, then that helicopter went away
Reporter: How many men?
Bashir: 10-12, then that helicopter took rounds of those rear hills,
then he came bac…k and when he came bach, two more helicopters arrived, one
from the west and other from the north, there was a blast in the first
helicopter and it was on fire, we immediately came out, when we reached
there, the helicopter was burning, then after about 20 minutes the army and
police arrived, they pushed us back, now we are asking that if oama was here
then who took him to america because all those men that came in the
helicopter died in the blast, now if Osama was in that helicopter he must
have died and got burnt in that helicopter too, then how they took him? this
is a question of serious concern. America claims they they killed him and
picked him up. How they picked him up? This is what we are thinking
Reporter: Was there only one helicopter?
Bashir? Yes the other that came flew away to Mansehra, there was only
one that landed the men and came back to pick them but as he was picking
them up, it blew away and caught fire.
Reporter: Then were in it when it blew?
Bashir: Yes They were.
Reporter : How you know?
Bashir: We saw it with our own eyes
Reporter: You saw dead man?
Bashir: Yes, dead men,
Reporter: How many?
Bashir: I couldnt count them because then the compound was on fire. The
gate was open, we went in, the army and police hadnt arrived then, there
were some people but they werent stopping them. The whole neighborhood has
seen that but they are silent now.
Bashir: We saw the helicopter burning, we saw the dead bodies, then
everything was removed and now there is nothing
Reporter: How many dead bodies you saw?
Bashir: We couldn’t count them because they were blown into pieces.
The reporter asked Bashir to narrate the story again.
Bashir said we could see the faces of those men but they were speaking
pashto. I dont know whether they were Pakistani or American army or people
of agencies, as you know that agency people can speak many languages.
May be they were speaking Pashto so that we consider them Pakistani.
They knocked and banged at our doors and told us not to come out.
I laid down on my rooftop and was watching them.
My kids were calling me, I told them to go to their rooms and let me
check whats going on.
The reporter asks Bashir, that when he saw that the helicopter was
American what was he thinking then?
Bashir said that he got afraid. He didn’t had in his mind that they
will attack that house. He thought that they might have come to attack the
Pakistan Army.
The reporter asked so when was your cousin Shamraiz taken away?
Bashir: Shamrez was at our home, as the helicopter exploded, me and many
others went out of our homes to see what happened. Shamrez also came out
and the gate of the compound was open, we went in, every thing was lying
scattered, as it is a huge compound, some body parts were lying here, some
there, legs, arms, heads, broken and torn body parts, during that time some
part of the helicopter inside, may be the engine or other fuel related part
had an explosion so we rushed out. During that time Shamrez was taken away,
he is in his home now, but no one is allowed to meet him and i couldn’t get
a chance to talk to him later.
Then the anchor says that they had vegetations inside the compound and
Shamrez was their gardener. We know that two men Arshad and Tariq used to
live there. They had good relations with the neighbours, they used to buy
things from the local store. Sometimes imported dates and used to send many
things to their neighbours.
Then the reporter is at Abdullah Ben Zubair Mosque, which is the nearest
to compound of Osama.
She asks a guy: do you think people would have been glad and happy if
they would have ever met osama?
The guy : Yes, possibly. Because he was a muslim and he believed in God.
This is the whole story! Every aspect and point translated.
The gentleman being interviewed lives across from the compound. His
cousin Sahab Jamrez Khan used to grow vegetables in the compound. He was
taken away in all the hullabaloo on tape @10.29 Bashir says he did not see
when they wisked his cousin away.
Interviewer asks “Have you spoken to your cousin?”
Bashir “No, I have not seen him yet he in in the house. “They will not
let him get out” “They will not let me get in.”
2 other men Arshad Sahib and Tariq Sahib used to go to market to shop
for that compound and bought international brand items. Dates, dried meat
found in compound. Also food used to come from compound to Bashir’s house
Kabulu Pilau and things like that used to be presented to Bashir. They will
follow up with more information. In the end the lady is standing in front of
Abdullah Bin Zubair mosque. The mosque was with in walking distance of the
compound. She asks people if Osama did attend this mosque people would have
be happy? The one answered maybe. The other said Osama did “not” live here
but he was muslim and believed in God. Interview ends.
Another thing to note is that Bashir mentioned that we are very “sharif
” meaning law abiding honest people. His town was a peaceful place no
excitement no murders, fights, and he is unhappy how they have made his town
so frightful with all this news. One thing is very clear in this video. Two
helicopters hovered never landed. One landed dropped Pashto speaking poeple
on the roof 10-12 of them Helicopter left fo 20 minutes returned to load
people in and small blast engine failure fire helicopter parts all over.
Body parts arms, legs, head, all over. Pakistani Army/Police came in
dispersed crowd. The whole scene is cleaned up totally now. No evidence left
to examine.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/08/06/breaking-news-bin-laden
Also see: Bin Laden Operation Discredits U.S. Armed Forces
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/05/15/gordon-duff-bin-laden-o |
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