l****u
发帖数: 3130 | 1 实行统一的生活工资，不管什么职业，都要有一个统一的生活工资(没有明确究竟要多
少钱，要达到什么样的生活标准)；为了实现统一的生活工资，要结束自由贸易；建立
政府支付的统一的医疗卫生系统；免费教育，包括上大学；免去所有的债务包括房屋贷
款、信用卡债务、学生贷款(言下之意，美国人不再欠任何债务)；废除信用报告制度(
也就是说，没有人知道谁欠债多少或是否破产过)；投资一万亿美元到基础设施；逐步
停止使用石油、煤炭能源并同时减少核电站。
http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occu
Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
Demand four: Free college education.
Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.
Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.
Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants.
Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.
Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.
Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.
Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.
Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.
Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.
These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy. |
m*t
发帖数: 7490 | |
g*****s
发帖数: 1288 | 3 如果是真的，简直比六四还脑残
【在 l****u 的大作中提到】
: 实行统一的生活工资，不管什么职业，都要有一个统一的生活工资(没有明确究竟要多
: 少钱，要达到什么样的生活标准)；为了实现统一的生活工资，要结束自由贸易；建立
: 政府支付的统一的医疗卫生系统；免费教育，包括上大学；免去所有的债务包括房屋贷
: 款、信用卡债务、学生贷款(言下之意，美国人不再欠任何债务)；废除信用报告制度(
: 也就是说，没有人知道谁欠债多少或是否破产过)；投资一万亿美元到基础设施；逐步
: 停止使用石油、煤炭能源并同时减少核电站。
: http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occu
: Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
: Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
: Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
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c****t
发帖数: 5452 | 4 nnd,在民主运动成功之前赶快去申请无数的信用卡然后刷爆！ |
e**o
发帖数: 6038 | 5 计划经济？
【在 l****u 的大作中提到】
: 实行统一的生活工资，不管什么职业，都要有一个统一的生活工资(没有明确究竟要多
: 少钱，要达到什么样的生活标准)；为了实现统一的生活工资，要结束自由贸易；建立
: 政府支付的统一的医疗卫生系统；免费教育，包括上大学；免去所有的债务包括房屋贷
: 款、信用卡债务、学生贷款(言下之意，美国人不再欠任何债务)；废除信用报告制度(
: 也就是说，没有人知道谁欠债多少或是否破产过)；投资一万亿美元到基础设施；逐步
: 停止使用石油、煤炭能源并同时减少核电站。
: http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occu
: Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
: Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
: Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
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l***q
发帖数: 6976 | |
s*******n
发帖数: 4605 | 7 这难道不是几十年前共产主义运动的诉求，而且曾经被部分国家实现过，而实现这些的
国家又被示威者所支持的西方政府所推翻了么？ |
l*y
发帖数: 21010 | 8 stop spreading rumor!
http://occupywallst.org/
where is it?
【在 l****u 的大作中提到】
: 实行统一的生活工资，不管什么职业，都要有一个统一的生活工资(没有明确究竟要多
: 少钱，要达到什么样的生活标准)；为了实现统一的生活工资，要结束自由贸易；建立
: 政府支付的统一的医疗卫生系统；免费教育，包括上大学；免去所有的债务包括房屋贷
: 款、信用卡债务、学生贷款(言下之意，美国人不再欠任何债务)；废除信用报告制度(
: 也就是说，没有人知道谁欠债多少或是否破产过)；投资一万亿美元到基础设施；逐步
: 停止使用石油、煤炭能源并同时减少核电站。
: http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occu
: Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
: Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
: Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
|
S****e
发帖数: 10596 | 9 直接发钱好了
搞这么复杂
【在 l****u 的大作中提到】
: 实行统一的生活工资，不管什么职业，都要有一个统一的生活工资(没有明确究竟要多
: 少钱，要达到什么样的生活标准)；为了实现统一的生活工资，要结束自由贸易；建立
: 政府支付的统一的医疗卫生系统；免费教育，包括上大学；免去所有的债务包括房屋贷
: 款、信用卡债务、学生贷款(言下之意，美国人不再欠任何债务)；废除信用报告制度(
: 也就是说，没有人知道谁欠债多少或是否破产过)；投资一万亿美元到基础设施；逐步
: 停止使用石油、煤炭能源并同时减少核电站。
: http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occu
: Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
: Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
: Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
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l******t
发帖数: 55733 | |
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m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | |
G*****h
发帖数: 33134 | 12 这共产主义阿
ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods
entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family
farming and domestic manufact
this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their
only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors,
nurses and hospitals preven
【在 l****u 的大作中提到】
: 实行统一的生活工资，不管什么职业，都要有一个统一的生活工资(没有明确究竟要多
: 少钱，要达到什么样的生活标准)；为了实现统一的生活工资，要结束自由贸易；建立
: 政府支付的统一的医疗卫生系统；免费教育，包括上大学；免去所有的债务包括房屋贷
: 款、信用卡债务、学生贷款(言下之意，美国人不再欠任何债务)；废除信用报告制度(
: 也就是说，没有人知道谁欠债多少或是否破产过)；投资一万亿美元到基础设施；逐步
: 停止使用石油、煤炭能源并同时减少核电站。
: http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occu
: Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
: Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
: Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
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l****u
发帖数: 3130 | |
l******t
发帖数: 55733 | 14 有纲领就好。穷人喜欢就好。TG可以开始考虑拨款了。坐等美国革命，坐等美国变天。 |
l****u
发帖数: 3130 | 15 好像被删了，幸好我copy 了全文
【在 l******t 的大作中提到】
: 有纲领就好。穷人喜欢就好。TG可以开始考虑拨款了。坐等美国革命，坐等美国变天。
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l********k
发帖数: 14844 | 16 大部分美国p民根本不知道什么是社会主义，社会主义的基本原理是怎么回事，为什么
失败了，他们只是被洗脑地灌输了“社会主义是洪水猛兽”这个幻影一样的恐惧感。
对没有思辨能力的p民，如果大张旗鼓地宣传社会主义精神，他们心理上接受不了：自
己的父辈战斗了半个世纪，终于挫败了20世纪最恐怖的吃人怪兽，而它居然是我们现在
其实最想要的... 情何以堪啊
【在 s*******n 的大作中提到】
: 这难道不是几十年前共产主义运动的诉求，而且曾经被部分国家实现过，而实现这些的
: 国家又被示威者所支持的西方政府所推翻了么？
|
l*y
发帖数: 21010 | 17 Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post
submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/commentary
agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the
OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a
consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of
demands.
ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods
entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family
farming and domestic manufact
this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their
only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors,
nurses and hospitals preven
【在 l****u 的大作中提到】
: 实行统一的生活工资，不管什么职业，都要有一个统一的生活工资(没有明确究竟要多
: 少钱，要达到什么样的生活标准)；为了实现统一的生活工资，要结束自由贸易；建立
: 政府支付的统一的医疗卫生系统；免费教育，包括上大学；免去所有的债务包括房屋贷
: 款、信用卡债务、学生贷款(言下之意，美国人不再欠任何债务)；废除信用报告制度(
: 也就是说，没有人知道谁欠债多少或是否破产过)；投资一万亿美元到基础设施；逐步
: 停止使用石油、煤炭能源并同时减少核电站。
: http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occu
: Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
: Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
: Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
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l********k
发帖数: 14844 | 18 天朝抗议还有明确目标呢，要么是投诉毒奶粉，要么是抗议强拆，要么抗议城管执法。
这边居然是 no official list of demands.... 真悲剧，一个月了，连个正式诉求都
没有。米国的无产者们啊，一团烂泥。
the
of
family
their
【在 l*y 的大作中提到】
: Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post
: submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/commentary
: agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the
: OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a
: consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of
: demands.
:
: ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods
: entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family
: farming and domestic manufact
|
l*y
发帖数: 21010 | 19 that's exactly why this movement is different from all the past movements
that have FAILED
【在 l********k 的大作中提到】
: 天朝抗议还有明确目标呢，要么是投诉毒奶粉，要么是抗议强拆，要么抗议城管执法。
: 这边居然是 no official list of demands.... 真悲剧，一个月了，连个正式诉求都
: 没有。米国的无产者们啊，一团烂泥。
:
: the
: of
: family
: their
|
o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 20 They are not proleteriats at all.
【在 l********k 的大作中提到】
: 天朝抗议还有明确目标呢，要么是投诉毒奶粉，要么是抗议强拆，要么抗议城管执法。
: 这边居然是 no official list of demands.... 真悲剧，一个月了，连个正式诉求都
: 没有。米国的无产者们啊，一团烂泥。
:
: the
: of
: family
: their
|
|
|
a******m
发帖数: 1468 | 21 好像是有人提出了这样的诉求。不过，多有代表性就不好说了。美国应该把那些向往社
会主义制度的人都送去朝鲜劳动锻炼几年。
ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods
entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family
farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap
products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental
regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the
minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their
only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors,
nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that
money to wall st. investors.
【在 l****u 的大作中提到】
: 实行统一的生活工资，不管什么职业，都要有一个统一的生活工资(没有明确究竟要多
: 少钱，要达到什么样的生活标准)；为了实现统一的生活工资，要结束自由贸易；建立
: 政府支付的统一的医疗卫生系统；免费教育，包括上大学；免去所有的债务包括房屋贷
: 款、信用卡债务、学生贷款(言下之意，美国人不再欠任何债务)；废除信用报告制度(
: 也就是说，没有人知道谁欠债多少或是否破产过)；投资一万亿美元到基础设施；逐步
: 停止使用石油、煤炭能源并同时减少核电站。
: http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occu
: Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
: Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
: Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
|
m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 22
有明确诉求的就不是运动了
这个现在很像64，旗子拉的很大，结果到52开西那里一具体，就变成了喝可乐和穿耐克
【在 l********k 的大作中提到】
: 天朝抗议还有明确目标呢，要么是投诉毒奶粉，要么是抗议强拆，要么抗议城管执法。
: 这边居然是 no official list of demands.... 真悲剧，一个月了，连个正式诉求都
: 没有。米国的无产者们啊，一团烂泥。
:
: the
: of
: family
: their
|
l********k
发帖数: 14844 | 23 无相神功？
【在 l*y 的大作中提到】
: that's exactly why this movement is different from all the past movements
: that have FAILED
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l******t
发帖数: 55733 | 24
美国已经这么社会主义了P民还是不满意啊。美国P民急需的是能reinvent社会主义的大
理论家出世啊。
【在 l********k 的大作中提到】
: 大部分美国p民根本不知道什么是社会主义，社会主义的基本原理是怎么回事，为什么
: 失败了，他们只是被洗脑地灌输了“社会主义是洪水猛兽”这个幻影一样的恐惧感。
: 对没有思辨能力的p民，如果大张旗鼓地宣传社会主义精神，他们心理上接受不了：自
: 己的父辈战斗了半个世纪，终于挫败了20世纪最恐怖的吃人怪兽，而它居然是我们现在
: 其实最想要的... 情何以堪啊
|
N*****m
发帖数: 42603 | 25 看来凯西的理想实现了
【在 m*****5 的大作中提到】
:
: 有明确诉求的就不是运动了
: 这个现在很像64，旗子拉的很大，结果到52开西那里一具体，就变成了喝可乐和穿耐克
|
l*y
发帖数: 21010 | 26 just trying something new. could work, could fail, only time can tell
【在 l********k 的大作中提到】
: 无相神功？
|
l********k
发帖数: 14844 | 27 老早就想说，凭什么一说民主社会，米国就出来代表，一说社会主义，就发配朝鲜？难
道不跟米国站在一边就一定不是民主了？要民主就一定要给米国当小弟？难道就不能走
一条独立于西方体系之外的民主路线，或者建立一个富裕的社会主义国家？比如铁托时
代的南斯拉夫？
family
their
【在 a******m 的大作中提到】
: 好像是有人提出了这样的诉求。不过，多有代表性就不好说了。美国应该把那些向往社
: 会主义制度的人都送去朝鲜劳动锻炼几年。
:
: ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods
: entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family
: farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap
: products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental
: regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the
: minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
: this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their
|
e**o
发帖数: 6038 | 28 民主印度表示压力不大
【在 l********k 的大作中提到】
: 老早就想说，凭什么一说民主社会，米国就出来代表，一说社会主义，就发配朝鲜？难
: 道不跟米国站在一边就一定不是民主了？要民主就一定要给米国当小弟？难道就不能走
: 一条独立于西方体系之外的民主路线，或者建立一个富裕的社会主义国家？比如铁托时
: 代的南斯拉夫？
:
: family
: their
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l********k
发帖数: 14844 | 29 由中国特色的社会主义，以及自由市场之上的国有化，都是joke。
【在 l******t 的大作中提到】
:
: 美国已经这么社会主义了P民还是不满意啊。美国P民急需的是能reinvent社会主义的大
: 理论家出世啊。
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 30 If America adopts the communist like NK. The communist ideal will dominated
the world ah. The capitalists will have no place to hide.
【在 l********k 的大作中提到】
: 老早就想说，凭什么一说民主社会，米国就出来代表，一说社会主义，就发配朝鲜？难
: 道不跟米国站在一边就一定不是民主了？要民主就一定要给米国当小弟？难道就不能走
: 一条独立于西方体系之外的民主路线，或者建立一个富裕的社会主义国家？比如铁托时
: 代的南斯拉夫？
:
: family
: their
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h****6
发帖数: 815 | 31 问题是……可能吗？
dominated
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: If America adopts the communist like NK. The communist ideal will dominated
: the world ah. The capitalists will have no place to hide.
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 32 Anything is possible.
【在 h****6 的大作中提到】
: 问题是……可能吗？
:
: dominated
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l********k
发帖数: 14844 | 33 it's possible, but that's not my point.
不过我想刚刚我说的问题已经有现实的答案：波斯国。
dominated
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: If America adopts the communist like NK. The communist ideal will dominated
: the world ah. The capitalists will have no place to hide.
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l********k
发帖数: 14844 | 34 如果当年冷战双方，毛子是资本主义，自由市场，美国走的是苏维埃，双方控制的地盘
不变，最后会鹿死谁手呢？老人来说说看？
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: Anything is possible.
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G*****h
发帖数: 33134 | 35 还是毛子死
是因为各共和国闹独立
米国没有分裂的问题
【在 l********k 的大作中提到】
: 如果当年冷战双方，毛子是资本主义，自由市场，美国走的是苏维埃，双方控制的地盘
: 不变，最后会鹿死谁手呢？老人来说说看？
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 36 The communist USA would easily won ah.
It had the military power and all the poor ppl in the world to support the
communists. The capitalists were so few.
【在 l********k 的大作中提到】
: 如果当年冷战双方，毛子是资本主义，自由市场，美国走的是苏维埃，双方控制的地盘
: 不变，最后会鹿死谁手呢？老人来说说看？
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h****6
发帖数: 815 | 37 就是说无论走哪条路都是美国赢……
这个……为啥呢……如果走communist，能有同样的military power吗？
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: The communist USA would easily won ah.
: It had the military power and all the poor ppl in the world to support the
: communists. The capitalists were so few.
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m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 38
military power会更大
【在 h****6 的大作中提到】
: 就是说无论走哪条路都是美国赢……
: 这个……为啥呢……如果走communist，能有同样的military power吗？
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l********k
发帖数: 14844 | 39 苏联控制的资源、人口都比米国少，但是仍然可以实现军事对抗，靠得就是共产。如果
米国走共产路线，都不用对抗，直接推过去，domination victory了。
【在 h****6 的大作中提到】
: 就是说无论走哪条路都是美国赢……
: 这个……为啥呢……如果走communist，能有同样的military power吗？
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 40 Because USA was the strongest country ah.
The communists lost becuase they were defeated by US.
If the communists were successful in US, I don't see any other countries
could resists their poor to be communist countries with the help of US.
【在 h****6 的大作中提到】
: 就是说无论走哪条路都是美国赢……
: 这个……为啥呢……如果走communist，能有同样的military power吗？
|
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h****6
发帖数: 815 | 41 那岂不就统一全世界了……
【在 l********k 的大作中提到】
: 苏联控制的资源、人口都比米国少，但是仍然可以实现军事对抗，靠得就是共产。如果
: 米国走共产路线，都不用对抗，直接推过去，domination victory了。
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 42 The communists' dream ah.
【在 h****6 的大作中提到】
: 那岂不就统一全世界了……
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l********k
发帖数: 14844 | 43 老人再来说说，米国历任总统，哪个的政策最接近社会主义？注意不是和社会主义国家
走得最近。
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: The communists' dream ah.
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 44 FDR ah.
He was also afraid of the communists in US la.
Now GOP is so bold because the communists were totally defeated around the
world. If USSR were still existed, GOP could not be this bold.
【在 l********k 的大作中提到】
: 老人再来说说，米国历任总统，哪个的政策最接近社会主义？注意不是和社会主义国家
: 走得最近。
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s***q
发帖数: 10585 | 45 哈哈哈
照这么说，如果把“实现目标”作为一个革命是否成功的标准，那么６４无疑是成功的
因为这个目标定得实在太低了
【在 m*****5 的大作中提到】
:
: military power会更大
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m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 46
当时领袖们各自要求都不一样
【在 s***q 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈哈
: 照这么说，如果把“实现目标”作为一个革命是否成功的标准，那么６４无疑是成功的
: 因为这个目标定得实在太低了
|
m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 47
现在有一些人就在高喊要恢复FDR的政策
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: FDR ah.
: He was also afraid of the communists in US la.
: Now GOP is so bold because the communists were totally defeated around the
: world. If USSR were still existed, GOP could not be this bold.
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 48 The capitalists have no fear ah.
The communists totally lost their steams.
【在 m*****5 的大作中提到】
:
: 现在有一些人就在高喊要恢复FDR的政策
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m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 49
fdr能做成这些事，还是靠的家门深厚，换了寒门出身，只有革命才做的了这些事情
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: The capitalists have no fear ah.
: The communists totally lost their steams.
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 50 FDR was also afraid of the communists ah.
USA was still a rich country and could provide to its poor some help.
The economy crisis would bring down some poor capitalists countries.
US and China need lead the capitalists out of this crisis, otherwise,
US and China may survive this crisis, some weak countries, communists
have another chance la.
【在 m*****5 的大作中提到】
:
: fdr能做成这些事，还是靠的家门深厚，换了寒门出身，只有革命才做的了这些事情
|
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m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 51
当时毛子搞的那套实在是很毛，FDR不买帐很正常
你换他的位置想想，毛子那种天翻地覆的搞法，社会动荡起来完全不可控，搞改革还是
可控的
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: FDR was also afraid of the communists ah.
: USA was still a rich country and could provide to its poor some help.
: The economy crisis would bring down some poor capitalists countries.
: US and China need lead the capitalists out of this crisis, otherwise,
: US and China may survive this crisis, some weak countries, communists
: have another chance la.
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s********e
发帖数: 235 | 52 有人会赞同吗？
ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods
entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family
farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap
products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental
regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the
minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their
only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors,
nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that
money to wall st. investors.
【在 l****u 的大作中提到】
: 实行统一的生活工资，不管什么职业，都要有一个统一的生活工资(没有明确究竟要多
: 少钱，要达到什么样的生活标准)；为了实现统一的生活工资，要结束自由贸易；建立
: 政府支付的统一的医疗卫生系统；免费教育，包括上大学；免去所有的债务包括房屋贷
: 款、信用卡债务、学生贷款(言下之意，美国人不再欠任何债务)；废除信用报告制度(
: 也就是说，没有人知道谁欠债多少或是否破产过)；投资一万亿美元到基础设施；逐步
: 停止使用石油、煤炭能源并同时减少核电站。
: http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occu
: Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
: Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
: Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
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x****o
发帖数: 29677 | |
x****o
发帖数: 29677 | |
S***a
发帖数: 3956 | 55 http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occu
Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post
submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/commentary
agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the
OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a
consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of
demands.
我估计就是花街雇了个网络写手专门造谣抹黑的。
ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods
entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family
farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap
products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental
regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the
minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their
only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors,
nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that
money to wall st. investors.
【在 l****u 的大作中提到】
: 实行统一的生活工资，不管什么职业，都要有一个统一的生活工资(没有明确究竟要多
: 少钱，要达到什么样的生活标准)；为了实现统一的生活工资，要结束自由贸易；建立
: 政府支付的统一的医疗卫生系统；免费教育，包括上大学；免去所有的债务包括房屋贷
: 款、信用卡债务、学生贷款(言下之意，美国人不再欠任何债务)；废除信用报告制度(
: 也就是说，没有人知道谁欠债多少或是否破产过)；投资一万亿美元到基础设施；逐步
: 停止使用石油、煤炭能源并同时减少核电站。
: http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occu
: Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
: Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
: Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
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h******k
发帖数: 13418 | 56 打着红旗反红旗永远是最有效的办法。
the
of
family
【在 S***a 的大作中提到】
: http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occu
: Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post
: submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/commentary
: agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the
: OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a
: consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of
: demands.
: 我估计就是花街雇了个网络写手专门造谣抹黑的。
:
: ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods
|
F**********n
发帖数: 103 | 57 Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post
submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/commentary
agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the
OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a
consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of
demands. |
w*********g
发帖数: 30882 | |
m***6
发帖数: 8479 | 59 这时候看出来了，缺少共产党的领导了
ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods
entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family
farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap
products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental
regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the
minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their
only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors,
nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that
money to wall st. investors.
【在 l****u 的大作中提到】
: 实行统一的生活工资，不管什么职业，都要有一个统一的生活工资(没有明确究竟要多
: 少钱，要达到什么样的生活标准)；为了实现统一的生活工资，要结束自由贸易；建立
: 政府支付的统一的医疗卫生系统；免费教育，包括上大学；免去所有的债务包括房屋贷
: 款、信用卡债务、学生贷款(言下之意，美国人不再欠任何债务)；废除信用报告制度(
: 也就是说，没有人知道谁欠债多少或是否破产过)；投资一万亿美元到基础设施；逐步
: 停止使用石油、煤炭能源并同时减少核电站。
: http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occu
: Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
: Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
: Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
|
m*****y
发帖数: 691 | 60 事实证明共产主义是对的，只是我们太不自信了，而且搞得不好
ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods
entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family
farming and domestic manufact
this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their
only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors,
nurses and hospitals preven
【在 l****u 的大作中提到】
: 实行统一的生活工资，不管什么职业，都要有一个统一的生活工资(没有明确究竟要多
: 少钱，要达到什么样的生活标准)；为了实现统一的生活工资，要结束自由贸易；建立
: 政府支付的统一的医疗卫生系统；免费教育，包括上大学；免去所有的债务包括房屋贷
: 款、信用卡债务、学生贷款(言下之意，美国人不再欠任何债务)；废除信用报告制度(
: 也就是说，没有人知道谁欠债多少或是否破产过)；投资一万亿美元到基础设施；逐步
: 停止使用石油、煤炭能源并同时减少核电站。
: http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occu
: Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
: Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
: Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
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s********n
发帖数: 26222 | 61 NED/CIA 污名化，妖魔化“占领华尔街”运动蓄意发的一个帖子而已， 没必要当真。
ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods
entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family
farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap
products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental
regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the
minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their
only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors,
nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that
money to wall st. investors.
【在 l****u 的大作中提到】
: 实行统一的生活工资，不管什么职业，都要有一个统一的生活工资(没有明确究竟要多
: 少钱，要达到什么样的生活标准)；为了实现统一的生活工资，要结束自由贸易；建立
: 政府支付的统一的医疗卫生系统；免费教育，包括上大学；免去所有的债务包括房屋贷
: 款、信用卡债务、学生贷款(言下之意，美国人不再欠任何债务)；废除信用报告制度(
: 也就是说，没有人知道谁欠债多少或是否破产过)；投资一万亿美元到基础设施；逐步
: 停止使用石油、煤炭能源并同时减少核电站。
: http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occu
: Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
: Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
: Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
|
f*****e
发帖数: 2992 | 62 被敌对势力利用了。
ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods
entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family
farming and domestic manufact
this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their
only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors,
nurses and hospitals preven
【在 l****u 的大作中提到】
: 实行统一的生活工资，不管什么职业，都要有一个统一的生活工资(没有明确究竟要多
: 少钱，要达到什么样的生活标准)；为了实现统一的生活工资，要结束自由贸易；建立
: 政府支付的统一的医疗卫生系统；免费教育，包括上大学；免去所有的债务包括房屋贷
: 款、信用卡债务、学生贷款(言下之意，美国人不再欠任何债务)；废除信用报告制度(
: 也就是说，没有人知道谁欠债多少或是否破产过)；投资一万亿美元到基础设施；逐步
: 停止使用石油、煤炭能源并同时减少核电站。
: http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occu
: Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
: Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
: Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
|
m********5
发帖数: 17667 | 63 傻X！欧洲这么搞已破产了！
ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods
entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family
farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap
products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental
regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the
minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their
only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors,
nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that
money to wall st. investors.
【在 l****u 的大作中提到】
: 实行统一的生活工资，不管什么职业，都要有一个统一的生活工资(没有明确究竟要多
: 少钱，要达到什么样的生活标准)；为了实现统一的生活工资，要结束自由贸易；建立
: 政府支付的统一的医疗卫生系统；免费教育，包括上大学；免去所有的债务包括房屋贷
: 款、信用卡债务、学生贷款(言下之意，美国人不再欠任何债务)；废除信用报告制度(
: 也就是说，没有人知道谁欠债多少或是否破产过)；投资一万亿美元到基础设施；逐步
: 停止使用石油、煤炭能源并同时减少核电站。
: http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occu
: Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
: Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
: Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
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b**********s
发帖数: 9531 | 64 这是假的，请不要传播谣言
it's a list submitted by users, not official demand.
the original post is malicious, it intentionally skipped the most important
disclaimer:
Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post
submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/commentary
agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the
OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a
consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of
demands. |
s******g
发帖数: 972 | 65 其实就是懒人想白吃白喝一辈子
ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods
entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family
farming and domestic manufact
this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their
only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors,
nurses and hospitals preven
【在 l****u 的大作中提到】
: 实行统一的生活工资，不管什么职业，都要有一个统一的生活工资(没有明确究竟要多
: 少钱，要达到什么样的生活标准)；为了实现统一的生活工资，要结束自由贸易；建立
: 政府支付的统一的医疗卫生系统；免费教育，包括上大学；免去所有的债务包括房屋贷
: 款、信用卡债务、学生贷款(言下之意，美国人不再欠任何债务)；废除信用报告制度(
: 也就是说，没有人知道谁欠债多少或是否破产过)；投资一万亿美元到基础设施；逐步
: 停止使用石油、煤炭能源并同时减少核电站。
: http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occu
: Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
: Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
: Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
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l****t
发帖数: 36289 | |
m*****e
发帖数: 1506 | 67 原始社会好
ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods
entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family
farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap
products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental
regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the
minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their
only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors,
nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that
money to wall st. investors.
【在 l****u 的大作中提到】
: 实行统一的生活工资，不管什么职业，都要有一个统一的生活工资(没有明确究竟要多
: 少钱，要达到什么样的生活标准)；为了实现统一的生活工资，要结束自由贸易；建立
: 政府支付的统一的医疗卫生系统；免费教育，包括上大学；免去所有的债务包括房屋贷
: 款、信用卡债务、学生贷款(言下之意，美国人不再欠任何债务)；废除信用报告制度(
: 也就是说，没有人知道谁欠债多少或是否破产过)；投资一万亿美元到基础设施；逐步
: 停止使用石油、煤炭能源并同时减少核电站。
: http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occu
: Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
: Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
: Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
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