r*******3
发帖数: 10886 | 1 那也真tm牛逼大了。
牛逼的是新浪上面的投票，百分之七十多的认为乔丹体育侵权了。操，干脆说汉字是美
国发明的得了。
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297020477860457724099
BEIJING—Basketball star Michael Jordan has cried foul against a sportswear
chain here, saying it is improperly using the Chinese version of his name.
Qiaodan Sports Co. has profited by illegally using his name on its marketing
materials and products since the 1980s, Mr. Jordan said in a prepared
statement. Qiaodan is pronounced approximately as cheow-DAN in Mandarin.
Michael Jordan has launched a lawsuit disputing the use of his name in China
, years after the Qiaodan Sports Company was given permission to do so. The
WSJ's Deborah Kan speaks to reporter Laurie Burkitt.
Mr. Jordan filed suit in China—the latest dispute over intellectual
property in the country.
Qiaodan Sports, based in the coastal province of Fujian, sells athlete-
branded basketball shoes and jerseys in its 5,715 retail outlets in China
and is preparing to raise 1.1 billion yuan ($175 million) in a public
listing in Shanghai. The company posted profit of 341.5 million yuan on 1.7
billion yuan in revenue for last year's first half.
Qiaodan Sports said it has the exclusive right to the Qiaodan trademark and
is operating "in accordance with Chinese laws." A Qiaodan Sports spokesman
declined further comment Thursday.
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CJORDAN
CJORDAN
Published Credit: Agence France-Presse/Getty Images
"I feel the need to protect my name, my identity, and the Chinese consumers,
" Mr. Jordan said in a video on a website devoted to his claims. "It's about
principle—protecting my identity and my name," he said. Any damage award
would be invested in promoting basketball in China, he said.
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Nike, Adidas Gear Up for Jeremy Lin
Naming rights and trademarks long have been issues in China. General Motors
Corp. in 2005 reached a settlement with Chery Automobile Co. after GM said
the Chinese company's name was too similar to "Chevy," the nickname for GM's
Chevrolet brand. Such battles have been in the spotlight recently as
foreign companies rush to tap China's growing consumer culture. Apple Inc.
is in court in China over whether the company holds the iPad trademark.
Many sports companies here also are looking to capitalize on the sudden
popularity of National Basketball Association surprise standout Jeremy Lin,
selling T-shirts and jerseys bearing his name. China's Wuxi Risheng Sports
Utility Co. says it reserved the rights last year to use his Chinese name,
Lin Shuhao.
Qiaodan Sports first registered for the rights to use Mr. Jordan's Chinese
moniker in 1997, when it applied to use the name with the logo of a baseball
player at bat, according to the trademark office of China's State
Administration for Industry and Commerce.
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CJORDAN
CJORDAN
YouTube
Michael Jordan explained his lawsuit in a video posted online.
Mr. Jordan doesn't hold a registered trademark for his Chinese name in China
, but legal experts said that might not matter. Chinese law generally
protects parties who hold registrations and who file early for them. But a
provision says businesses can't freely use the names of famous people, even
if the people don't have registered trademarks.
A Chinese court in December ruled for former NBA player Yao Ming, who
challenged Wuhan Yunhe Sharks Sportswear Co. for using his name and the logo
"Yao Ming Era" on its products. The company was forced to stop using the
name and to pay damages of 300,000 yuan. Another NBA player from China, Yi
Jianlian, last April prevailed over Fujian Yi Jianlian Sport Goods Co., when
a court held that an "Individual's name right should be recognized as a
prior right."
Mr. Yao and Mr. Yi are well-known athletes in China and legal experts said
their cases might help Mr. Jordan's. Mr. Jordan will have to provide
sufficient evidence that his fame preceded Qiaodan Sports' trademarks, said
Horace Lam, a Beijing-based intellectual-property partner of law firm Jones
Day.
That may seem easy for a star who won six NBA championships with the Chicago
Bulls, starting in 1991, but "there's still great uncertainty," Mr. Lam
said. Previous rulings may have sided with the other players because they
are Chinese nationals, he said.
Qiaodan Sports likely will question why Mr. Jordan didn't file suit sooner,
said Dan Harris, a partner at law firm Harris & Moure. "Chinese judges are
not looking to shut a business down and lay off thousands of workers," he
said. Mr. Jordan could settle with the company, allowing Qiaodan to use his
name for a licensing fee, Mr. Harris said.
"Mr. Jordan is not interested in putting Qiaodan out of business, but he
wants to reclaim his name and identity," said Josh Gartner, a spokesman for
Mr. Jordan's legal teams at Jun He Law Offices and Fangda Partners. "He
wants to make sure Chinese consumers understand the products they are buying
and are not misled." |
w*p
发帖数: 16484 | |
p******u
发帖数: 14642 | 3 中国崇洋媚外的孙子多，凡事都替洋大人的利益着想
sportswear
marketing
China
【在 r*******3 的大作中提到】
: 那也真tm牛逼大了。
: 牛逼的是新浪上面的投票，百分之七十多的认为乔丹体育侵权了。操，干脆说汉字是美
: 国发明的得了。
: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297020477860457724099
: BEIJING—Basketball star Michael Jordan has cried foul against a sportswear
: chain here, saying it is improperly using the Chinese version of his name.
: Qiaodan Sports Co. has profited by illegally using his name on its marketing
: materials and products since the 1980s, Mr. Jordan said in a prepared
: statement. Qiaodan is pronounced approximately as cheow-DAN in Mandarin.
: Michael Jordan has launched a lawsuit disputing the use of his name in China
|
x****o
发帖数: 29677 | 4 主要是误导，语言翻译，你说乔丹这两个中文字出来代表什么，公说公有理，婆说婆有
理 |
p******u
发帖数: 14642 | 5 话说，上次的星巴克起诉好像是国内商家输了
sportswear
marketing
China
【在 r*******3 的大作中提到】
: 那也真tm牛逼大了。
: 牛逼的是新浪上面的投票，百分之七十多的认为乔丹体育侵权了。操，干脆说汉字是美
: 国发明的得了。
: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297020477860457724099
: BEIJING—Basketball star Michael Jordan has cried foul against a sportswear
: chain here, saying it is improperly using the Chinese version of his name.
: Qiaodan Sports Co. has profited by illegally using his name on its marketing
: materials and products since the 1980s, Mr. Jordan said in a prepared
: statement. Qiaodan is pronounced approximately as cheow-DAN in Mandarin.
: Michael Jordan has launched a lawsuit disputing the use of his name in China
|
G*****h
发帖数: 33134 | 6 应该再变形一下
弄成瞧蛋牌。。
【在 x****o 的大作中提到】
: 主要是误导，语言翻译，你说乔丹这两个中文字出来代表什么，公说公有理，婆说婆有
: 理
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r*******3
发帖数: 10886 | 7 大阴蒂的女酋也没看到去告 伊丽莎白雅顿 这个品牌，这可是正儿八经的英文，一模一
样的拼写，还tm皇室名字。
靠，就算那公司叫 迈克尔乔丹 也tm跟打篮球的老黑没关系。
【在 w*p 的大作中提到】
: 这个擦边球打的的确有点绝
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r*******3
发帖数: 10886 | 8 具体是怎么回事？如果starbuck在中国先注册了 星巴克 这个中文商标那也说的过去
【在 p******u 的大作中提到】
: 话说，上次的星巴克起诉好像是国内商家输了
:
: sportswear
: marketing
: China
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w*p
发帖数: 16484 | 9 告不告的赢又是一回事了
【在 r*******3 的大作中提到】
: 大阴蒂的女酋也没看到去告 伊丽莎白雅顿 这个品牌，这可是正儿八经的英文，一模一
: 样的拼写，还tm皇室名字。
: 靠，就算那公司叫 迈克尔乔丹 也tm跟打篮球的老黑没关系。
|
e******e
发帖数: 3472 | 10 ipad的事情围观已经被驳回了
在上海和广东的法院就是洋大人自己开的，可能在重庆还有点希望，但。。。 |
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p*r
发帖数: 5516 | 11 美狗真多啊
sportswear
marketing
China
【在 r*******3 的大作中提到】
: 那也真tm牛逼大了。
: 牛逼的是新浪上面的投票，百分之七十多的认为乔丹体育侵权了。操，干脆说汉字是美
: 国发明的得了。
: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297020477860457724099
: BEIJING—Basketball star Michael Jordan has cried foul against a sportswear
: chain here, saying it is improperly using the Chinese version of his name.
: Qiaodan Sports Co. has profited by illegally using his name on its marketing
: materials and products since the 1980s, Mr. Jordan said in a prepared
: statement. Qiaodan is pronounced approximately as cheow-DAN in Mandarin.
: Michael Jordan has launched a lawsuit disputing the use of his name in China
|
e******e
发帖数: 3472 | 12 中国那么多叫乔丹的人还没说话呢，轮到一个叫jordan的黑家伙出来告？他说现在无关
钱的问题，但其实就是怕哪天钱挥霍完了没处敲诈，所以先把名字占着 |
p*r
发帖数: 5516 | 13 就是，尼玛，那么多叫李宁的也没说话
【在 e******e 的大作中提到】
: 中国那么多叫乔丹的人还没说话呢，轮到一个叫jordan的黑家伙出来告？他说现在无关
: 钱的问题，但其实就是怕哪天钱挥霍完了没处敲诈，所以先把名字占着
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a*******t
发帖数: 10093 | 14 这个事情
应该大多都是李宁、特步、361、美特斯邦威的水军
麻痹的实名制太有必要了
这个官司洋大人再赢了，中国政府基本上直接可以吃屎去了
sportswear
marketing
China
【在 r*******3 的大作中提到】
: 那也真tm牛逼大了。
: 牛逼的是新浪上面的投票，百分之七十多的认为乔丹体育侵权了。操，干脆说汉字是美
: 国发明的得了。
: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297020477860457724099
: BEIJING—Basketball star Michael Jordan has cried foul against a sportswear
: chain here, saying it is improperly using the Chinese version of his name.
: Qiaodan Sports Co. has profited by illegally using his name on its marketing
: materials and products since the 1980s, Mr. Jordan said in a prepared
: statement. Qiaodan is pronounced approximately as cheow-DAN in Mandarin.
: Michael Jordan has launched a lawsuit disputing the use of his name in China
|
a*******t
发帖数: 10093 | 15 人家是qiaodan
又不是Jordan
我老当年一看，就知道此乔丹非彼乔丹
、
【在 G*****h 的大作中提到】
: 应该再变形一下
: 弄成瞧蛋牌。。
|
c******g
发帖数: 9273 | 16 中国政府现在在干什么？
谁来科普一下
【在 a*******t 的大作中提到】
: 这个事情
: 应该大多都是李宁、特步、361、美特斯邦威的水军
: 麻痹的实名制太有必要了
: 这个官司洋大人再赢了，中国政府基本上直接可以吃屎去了
:
: sportswear
: marketing
: China
|
a*******t
发帖数: 10093 | 17 装傻卖萌
【在 c******g 的大作中提到】
: 中国政府现在在干什么？
: 谁来科普一下
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M*****8
发帖数: 17722 | 18
................
后清买办们肯定在死命舔洋主子。
用尽心思计谋如何保护洋大人的利益。
其实MJ的目的是制造前例，做带路党。
为以后类似的洋官司铺路，这要看清楚。
至于他说钱会拿来做公益，那是口蜜腹剑。
这个案MJ没理由赢，并且也不能让赢，
否则引狼入室，有许多不良的法律后果。
虽然这些不良后果还是可以中和，但费神。
所以最佳的结果是MJ败诉，洋律师吃闭门羹。
由于语言和文化不同，中国人没义务知道洋名。
也因为语言文化差异，如有雷同，必需假设无辜。
也因为语言文化不同，外人不注册，那就无权起诉。
判案是技巧和艺术，精通法律的，要那方赢都能做到。
【在 c******g 的大作中提到】
: 中国政府现在在干什么？
: 谁来科普一下
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o********8
发帖数: 115 | 19 别装糊涂了. 他当初要取名李丹,会有人买吗? 中国人有点志气,别总玩这种山寨,差边
球的游戏.
【在 e******e 的大作中提到】
: 中国那么多叫乔丹的人还没说话呢，轮到一个叫jordan的黑家伙出来告？他说现在无关
: 钱的问题，但其实就是怕哪天钱挥霍完了没处敲诈，所以先把名字占着
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c******g
发帖数: 9273 | 20 还是我天朝政府英明啊
【在 a*******t 的大作中提到】
: 装傻卖萌
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t****v
发帖数: 9235 | 21 中国这个公司太猥琐
中国鸟人总想和洋人洋名沾点边，投机取巧，这下好了，打官司吧 |
M*****8
发帖数: 17722 | 22 发信人: MB80528 (肥猫(Contrarian)[食MM而肥]), 信区: Military
标 题: Re: 苹果或以诽谤罪名起诉深圳唯冠
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 21 03:33:12 2012, 美东)
深圳唯冠刚好可以用以上的情况证明，
双方并没有达成协议，因为这些纠纷，
反映了双方并没有 Meeting of the Minds。
所以实际情况是双方都证明了协议的无效。
转让商标被言行证明无效，深圳唯冠胜诉。
另外考虑商标的实际价值，也是独立证据。
由于它的FMV(Fair Market Value)大大超过
三万五英镑，所以属于不合理的双方错误，
在这情况下，卖方有权做废该转让协议。
另外由于买方施加违法的强迫,损害卖方权利，
包括卖方的言论自由，有欺诈和勒索的实质，
这违反了中国公民和企业的基本法律权利，
而这权利是受法律保护的，卖方可以索赔。
所以目前该案的判决是，商标转让无效，苹果败诉。
苹果在中国必须立即停止该商标的使用，否则重罚。
苹果必须赔偿深圳唯冠的律师费和有关的诉讼费用。
过去发生的商标侵权，法院也将开庭判决赔偿数额。
法院保留继续审判深圳唯冠被苹果伤害的其它索赔。
如果我是中方法官，我必类似以上思路来判决此纠纷。
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Military/37285595.html |
x****o
发帖数: 29677 | 23 商标个人等等代理权，不太清楚，要是注册个英文伊丽莎白，会被叫伊丽莎白的告侵权
么 |
M*****8
发帖数: 17722 | 24
..........................
一个国家的法律要如何规定。
定了以后要如何执行，如何解读，
都是属于本国法院可以自主酌情决定。
无需理会外人指手画脚，更无需外人认可。
【在 x****o 的大作中提到】
: 商标个人等等代理权，不太清楚，要是注册个英文伊丽莎白，会被叫伊丽莎白的告侵权
: 么
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s***d
发帖数: 15421 | 25 我觉得董事长赶紧改名叫乔丹，然后说我用我自己的名字命名有问题吗 |
a*******t
发帖数: 10093 | 26 伟大的国家和民族
都是全面发展的，上三路、下三路功夫都得会
洋大人抢注中国商标的事情，又不是没干过
这个官司23号都不一定会请律师打
他叫Jordan，人家叫Qiaodan
碍他鸟毛事情，打必输
【在 t****v 的大作中提到】
: 中国这个公司太猥琐
: 中国鸟人总想和洋人洋名沾点边，投机取巧，这下好了，打官司吧
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r*******3
发帖数: 10886 | 27 互联网风潮的时候抢注域名的海了去了，不服也没用，你花钱买回来呗
【在 t****v 的大作中提到】
: 中国这个公司太猥琐
: 中国鸟人总想和洋人洋名沾点边，投机取巧，这下好了，打官司吧
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e******e
发帖数: 3472 | 28 你不装糊涂才叫真糊涂
【在 o********8 的大作中提到】
: 别装糊涂了. 他当初要取名李丹,会有人买吗? 中国人有点志气,别总玩这种山寨,差边
: 球的游戏.
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r*******3
发帖数: 10886 | 29 这也是为啥很多人从来都是被规则玩还不知道去研究规则利用规则的原因
【在 e******e 的大作中提到】
: 你不装糊涂才叫真糊涂
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a**p
发帖数: 202 | |
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m***6
发帖数: 8479 | |
s*******e
发帖数: 1544 | 32 同意。如果在乔丹出名前就注了，我支持。否则，玩山寨，没意思。但是我还是支持法办。
【在 o********8 的大作中提到】
: 别装糊涂了. 他当初要取名李丹,会有人买吗? 中国人有点志气,别总玩这种山寨,差边
: 球的游戏.
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s**********d
发帖数: 36899 | |
M1
发帖数: 2038 | 34 爽快点，干脆叫chink算了
【在 a**p 的大作中提到】
: 叫阿丹不行吗，叫蛋蛋不行吗，干嘛非叫jb乔丹
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