s**********w
发帖数: 866 | 1 Q: Did you expect Chinese nationalists to attack your credibility?
This caught me totally by surprise. I thought maybe there would be some
negative grumblings, but I never expected anything like this.
Q: How do you explain the intensity of the attacks against you?
Forbes did an interview with me, and Forbes translated that interview in
Chinese. The translation had some errors in there. … But what really
happened is the Forbes article comes one day after The New York Times broke
the story about the (Chinese) hackers. My attack comes one day after.
Q: What do you think is Fang Zhouzi’s motive?
He even said in his second or third posting, he said, “I don’t care about
Ping being the casualty, what I’m going after is Western Media.” So he
mobilized a lot of people to assault every media outlet that’s here.
Q: How did the attacks operate?
I’ll give you an example on Amazon. My book probably had 37 five-star, all-
good reviews the first week I was on a book tour. Within a week the amount
of smear they had showered me with was twice as much as Michael Jackson’s
book, “Untouchable.” The whole site is smeared. If customers don’t know
me, why would they buy the book? It’s entirely negative reviews.
Q: How did Fang Zhouzi affect your book sales?
Tanked, totally. Totally tanked. I was selling 1,500 copies a day before
this started.
Q: And after the attacks?
Just few copies a day.
Q: What’s your take on this experience?
This is Internet terrorism. It’s people hiding behind the Internet being
extremely cruel to me. They try to smear my reputation, damage my personal
life. They’ve done so many things. My ex-husband’s email from Austria and
my daughter’s email from college, they put it on Internet and tell people
to send them hate mail.
Q: Has it affected your personal life?
I have my security software coming up much more often. It used to be twice a
year saying it’s catching something. Now I get it three times a day. It
will jump up and say some malicious thing wants to get into your email.
There’s high activity of something trying to get into my computer. So my
assistant had changed all of my passwords, they came to my house and changed
everything.
Q: Do you ever wish you had stuck to your initial instinct and not written
this book?
I don’t regret writing the book, but I don’t like the experience because I
’m reliving what happened to me when I was 8 years old. I’ve been publicly
denounced, publicly humiliated, which is what happens in the Cultural
Revolution. I don’t like those people bringing the Cultural Revolution to
America. Who gave them the right to invade my privacy? Or attacking other
people, or suppressing other people’s opinion? Who gives them a right to
try to silence me in this way?
Q: The critics claim they are suppressing lies and promoting truth.
I always said it’s not about absolute truth. It’s a memory. Who can get 50
years of memory right? It’s a memoir. It’s what I remember. It’s my
experience. It’s my story. I have a right to tell my story my way. I’m not
writing a history book, I’m not an investigative journalist. I’m not a
scholar of the Cultural Revolution.
I wasn’t trying to be perfect. I was trying to be authentic and honest.
Q: How do you explain so many people joining this online campaign against
you?
I must have stepped on some nerves, obviously, otherwise it wouldn’t have
created this much emotion. What I learned is a lot of time when I read those
very hurtful comments, those people are telling their own story. They’re
angry. And somehow they use this forum to express their own anger or their
own hurt. It isn’t even about my story. It makes me think that the Cultural
Revolution has been over for many years, but it’s still very fresh in
people’s minds. I have gone through the Grinnell Leadership, and opening up
, and talking about it, and writing a book. It’s a healing process. And it
was painful for me to write it. Those people have not gone through that. So
through my book, it’s bringing out the anger, the frustration that maybe
they experienced in their life. So I want to extend my compassion to them.
I am still trying to get a handle on what happened.
Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/02/23/2699216/geomagic-founder-ping-fu-says.html#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy | s*******u
发帖数: 9508 | 2 老烂婊子..
broke
about
【在 s**********w 的大作中提到】
: Q: Did you expect Chinese nationalists to attack your credibility?
: This caught me totally by surprise. I thought maybe there would be some
: negative grumblings, but I never expected anything like this.
: Q: How do you explain the intensity of the attacks against you?
: Forbes did an interview with me, and Forbes translated that interview in
: Chinese. The translation had some errors in there. … But what really
: happened is the Forbes article comes one day after The New York Times broke
: the story about the (Chinese) hackers. My attack comes one day after.
: Q: What do you think is Fang Zhouzi’s motive?
: He even said in his second or third posting, he said, “I don’t care about
| a******e
发帖数: 36306 | 3 这厮真的是脑子有问题啊，一会儿又道歉一会儿又把自己的话全部推翻跳脚骂。。。
broke
about
【在 s**********w 的大作中提到】
: Q: Did you expect Chinese nationalists to attack your credibility?
: This caught me totally by surprise. I thought maybe there would be some
: negative grumblings, but I never expected anything like this.
: Q: How do you explain the intensity of the attacks against you?
: Forbes did an interview with me, and Forbes translated that interview in
: Chinese. The translation had some errors in there. … But what really
: happened is the Forbes article comes one day after The New York Times broke
: the story about the (Chinese) hackers. My attack comes one day after.
: Q: What do you think is Fang Zhouzi’s motive?
: He even said in his second or third posting, he said, “I don’t care about
| D**d
发帖数: 1186 | 4 Ping Fu (@pfugeomagic) tweeted at 10:42 PM on Sat, Feb 23, 2013:
when you look at the picture, they are so human, but when they hides behind
the internet to attack, it can be so damaging....
https://twitter.com/pfugeomagic/status/305522958540079105
Get the official Twitter app at https://twitter.com/download | s**i
发帖数: 4448 | 5 还怕这事儿就桥没声儿让这贱人混过去了，没想到真是尼玛贱。又来讨打。恭敬不如从
命。继续修理丫挺的。 | c*****a
发帖数: 1728 | 6 这个贱人……看到这两天在热炒中国黑客，以为让自己翻身的稻草又来了。 | d**e
发帖数: 2420 | 7 方舟子这几天在帮武汉协和医院的医生维权，他的长篇回击文章估计要等几天。 | s**i
发帖数: 4448 | | n*****8
发帖数: 19630 | 9 老方说过他不在乎副品是否受伤害，他的目的是和西方媒体叫板吗？
Fu Ping："He even said in his second or third posting, he said, “I don’t
care about Ping being the casualty, what I’m going after is Western Media.
” So he mobilized a lot of people to assault every media outlet that’s
here.”
:) | s**i
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Hellotony Worldang
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A shameless women who has succeed in business. The book does full of lies.
She lied many times in media. People have a reason to look down on her.
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Yesterday 10:34 PM 12 Likes Report Abuse
Melissa M
People can have memory problem on some details that happened 20-40 years ago
, but it is hard not to remember whether:
1) The killing of a teacher by 4 horses quartering is an emotional memory or
what one actually saw. (Ping Fu later admitted that the cruel scene she
described as a witness was most likely her emotional memory).
2) The research article which she claimed published on newspaper and
subsequently led to her deportation to the US was not even published. The
issue she claimed to have written was already openly discussed in the
Chinese news before her research. Hard to imagine that the Chinese
government persecuted her for revealing a problem that was already openly
admitted by the state news.
3) One is gang raped or not. She insisted this happened, but hard to verify
but anyone. The red guards were considered politically correct and pure and
good students of Chairman Mao. Rape was a serious crime then and now (often
death penalty then). It is hard to imagine that people knew about a 10 year
old being gang raped and laughed at her.
4) The story of college girls have to have their period checked every month
by school officials to enforce one child policy. One child policy was
strictly enforced for married couples, unauthorized pregnancies had to be
aborted. Pregnancy out of wedlock had to be aborted in most cases then.
There really was no need for the government to go for the extra miles to
prevent pregnancy by period checking. Beside most of the college girls of
Ping Fu's time were so busy studying, dating was not so common with
obviously very little chance of pregnancy. So many colleges girls of Ping Fu
's time can verify. What an imagination.
America is a country with freedom of speech, but freedom of speech does not
include fabrication and distortion of facts. Fabrication and distortion of
facts should not be encouraged in America, otherwise, we lose our high moral
ground and the media lose its integrity and credibility. I am a Chinese
american, I do not want to see my fellow citizens being fooled and america
media lose its credibility.
All the documents on cultural revolution is easily available in Chinese
archives in China. Nobody is restricting one's access to these kind of
information. If you need any particular report and want to have any of these
documents, we can find it for you. We do not mind to help the american
journalists to get the facts right.
If a journalist refuses to look at all the facts, simply say that facts are
not available, there is not much one can do. I can only say "hell is full of
good meanings, but heaven is full of good works"
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Yesterday 11:22 PM 9 Likes Report Abuse
lee_lee
"I never expected anything like this (attack)." - PF.
The fierce resistance came as huge wave as soon as her book reached Chinese
American community. Fu is right, "never anything like that before" -- there
has NEVER been such outrageously fabricated "MEMOIR" about so-called
personal experience about CR period of China EVER printed in the US.
Many things in this book, (we must say TOO MANY), small things and big
things, from the meals she ate in China, her courses in school... to
students' menstrual period policing in University, including finger checking
vagina, to her thesis of killing hundreds of people in front of her bare
eyes, to Deng Xiaoping taking special care of her when she was held by
police..... are so outlandishly exaggerated and stretched beyond belief that
the whole book turned Chinese American's stomach up-side-down, cause big
uproars in this usually quiet minority group.
Chinese Americans are moving against her book not because her book painted a
bad picture of China, (CR era of China is bad enough, it cannot hide itself
from the world), but because her book went way too far to paint a picture
of China to cater American readers' imaginations and gave false information
of China. If Chinese government was not doing good jobs to preserve history
of that dark period, the world and American society definitely wouldn't need
any "fabricated history" about that era, either.
Again in an interview by public media, Fu blamed Chinese American community,
or someone else , such as Fang Zhou-zi, for the fall-out of her book is
another irresponsible move, just as irresponsible as those information she
gave in her book.
Yes, she is a successful businesswoman. All Chinese Americans would applaud
for her smartness, success and fame in the 3d - printing industry. But for
her book, Chinese Americans' plea is simple -- the publisher of her book
should re-categorize it as "fictional". If Fu got a chance to re-write this
book, she need to change a lot about the life in China, because it is too
far from the true.
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40 minutes ago 6 Likes Report Abuse
Eddie Cheng
It's rather amazing that, after so many serious questions raised for this
book, this reporter does not bother to mention even a single one of them and
chose to accept the author's superficial assertion of "typos and errors".
Where is the journalistic standard and integrity?
My name is Eddie Cheng and I am an American citizen living in Denver, CO.
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38 minutes ago 5 Likes Report Abuse
Taz Devil
Dear Mr. John Murawski,Could you get in touch with Fang, Zhouzi (smfang@
yahoo.com) to verify wheather Ping Fu said about him is true or false.
She said [He even said in his second or third posting, he said, “I don’t
care about Ping being the casualty, what I’m going after is Western Media.
” So he mobilized a lot of people to assault every media outlet that’s
here.]
I read Fang, Zhouzi's blog regularly but I do not recall Fang ever said "
what I’m going after is Western Media" or anything like that.
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38 minutes ago 5 Likes Report Abuse
Yiqun Chen
So far I have never seen any media willing to spend time doing basic fact
checking instead of citing Ping Fu's words to defend her. Please go read
what the critics say. I don't think people who criticize her book have any
personal grudge against her or are nationalists as she so baselessly claim
them to be. What we want is the truth not the lies. Please use your brain to
think why so many books on the Cultural Revolution have been sold on Amazon
and only this one got such a bad reception? If you believe this is a smear
campaign, please send someone to China and tell her story to anyone there
who has gone through the same period of the Cultural Revolution, just hand
out her claims in a questionnaire and ask these people to say true or false,
you will get the answer why we say this book is full of lies! Please do
this. Otherwise, using Ping Fu's statements to defend her claims is not
convincing and will only reflect poorly on your judgment.
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14 minutes ago 4 Likes Report Abuse
ziyoumind
Ping Fu said: “It’s my experience. It’s my story. I have a right to tell
my story my way”.
Yes, it could be true that it is only “her” story, and no one else but
herself can testify the truth of “her” story, IF and ONLY IF there is no
one else involved in her story. For example, if it is only her who played
herself in her own room, without being seen, and without any consequences on
other people’s life, then that is “her” story and she is the only person
to know whether “her” story is true or not.
But when she claimed that she saw a teacher being split apart by four horses
, she was no longer the only one person involved. These Red Guards who
conducted this horrible execution should be classified as ruthless killers
IF her story were true;
When she claimed that she was gang-raped by a bunch of teenagers, these
teenage boys would be taken as the rapists by definition, IF her story were
true;
When she claimed that she had to use her own fingers (the newest version of
her story, her ghost writer’s mistake to use other people’s fingers) to
show her menstrual blood, her university, or whoever designed and exercised
this so-called “period policy” would be regarded as the disgusting sexual
abusers, and her female college students, including herself, as the victims
of this policy, IF her story were true;
When she claimed that she saw with her bare eyes that hundreds of baby girls
were killed, these baby girls’ parents or whoever killed them would be
considered as the cold-blooded killers, IF her story were true;
When she claimed that she was kidnapped “by a Vietnamese-American on
arrival in the U.S. state of New Mexico and locked in his apartment to care
for his very young children” (By Didi Kirsten Tatlow, 2013, ITH), that
Vietnamese-American would be defined as the kidnapper, if her story were
true.
So, are these her owe stores? Yes, they are. But as the other people were
also involved in these events, these stories are theirs too: the Red Guards,
her female college students, her teachers or staff members who designed or
exercised period policy, baby girls’ killers, the Communist Party leader at
her school who supported her so-called infanticide research (she must know
that leader’s name, no?), that Vietnamese-American, someone who picked up
911 phone call in her kidnapping story (no 911 record?), policemen
dispatched to the scene (no dispatch log?), policemen who should record this
case (for kidnapping such a serious crime, how odd it is that there was no
record at all? How about three kids? They could speak English and knew who
was their father? Even no family pictures at home to identify potential
kidnapper?)
If the quartering execution, period policy, baby girl killings, her famous
research with support from the teacher(s) or Communist Party in her school,
or kidnapping in New Mexico DID HAPPEN TO HER, and the other people played
the roles just as described in her book or in her interviews, yes, we can
say that her words would be true.
HOWEVER, if these events DID NOT HAPPEN TO HER in the real world, just like
quartering in her emotional memory, or no police record for a serious crime
of kidnapping, would these Red Guard still be ruthless killers, or that
Vietnamese-American still be kidnappers, or the policemen be negligent of
their duties? Would “HER” story give her rights to make up the stories and
portrait herself as a rag-to-rich heroin by ruining the dignities and
reputations of the other people and institutions?
Should or can these people involved in her stories be treated with due
respect and justice from her and from the public?
Yes, they should. Besides her, these people are also the ones who can
testify the veracity of these stories. The question would then be simple:
Can she provide the names of these people, or the locations and time of
these events? If she lied, it would be HER, not truth-seekers, that insulted
these innocent people!! And the only way to give Due Respect and Justice to
her, to these people involved in her stories, and to the public is to find
out these people, these locations and time, and to dig out the truth.
Fortunately, some of these people are still alive.
Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/02/23/2699216/geomagic-founder-ping-fu-says.html#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy | | | n*****8
发帖数: 19630 | 11 副品讲话要点：
1．NYT 报道了中国黑客事件，福布斯第二天采访了她，第三天，大量给她抹黑的评论
出现了。
2．方舟子说“我并不关心副品是否受伤，我要挑战的是西方媒体”。
3．以前可以一天卖1500本，现在一天卖几本。
4．这是一种网络恐怖主义，还有人给我前夫，女儿写恶意邮件。
5．以前我的防病毒软件一年被激活一两次，现在每天都激活几次，有人想进入我的计
算机。
6．那些人把文化大革命带到了美国。
7．我一直强调，没有绝对的真相。那是一个回忆录。谁能保证50年的回忆准确呢？我
不是写历史书，我也不是记者或文革专家。
8．我经过了格林内尔领导训练，心里得到疗伤。那些攻击我的人，没有经过这个过程
，他们是文革的受害者。
:) | p********1
发帖数: 2785 | 12 平常日子，西宣部比中宣部温情脉脉，技巧高超。关键时刻，西宣部与中宣部一样面目
狰狞。 | s**i
发帖数: 4448 | 13 没有。
这个老婊子很狡猾，她在离间西媒和她的批评者。让这两方掐，她就可以脱身了。
一再往nationalist上面扯。
大家是对这个事件发生后西媒表现的极度偏见不满。
她现在又觉着有机可乘，扭曲肘子动机，让读者认为对她的批评只是攻击西媒的渠道。
很无耻。少见的无耻。
【在 n*****8 的大作中提到】
: 老方说过他不在乎副品是否受伤害，他的目的是和西方媒体叫板吗？
: Fu Ping："He even said in his second or third posting, he said, “I don’t
: care about Ping being the casualty, what I’m going after is Western Media.
: ” So he mobilized a lot of people to assault every media outlet that’s
: here.”
: :)
| n*****8
发帖数: 19630 | 14 这种张口就胡擂的可真有本事啊。
如果老方真没说过，她这不是又给人一个把柄吗？
:)
【在 s**i 的大作中提到】
: 没有。
: 这个老婊子很狡猾，她在离间西媒和她的批评者。让这两方掐，她就可以脱身了。
: 一再往nationalist上面扯。
: 大家是对这个事件发生后西媒表现的极度偏见不满。
: 她现在又觉着有机可乘，扭曲肘子动机，让读者认为对她的批评只是攻击西媒的渠道。
: 很无耻。少见的无耻。
| w*p
发帖数: 16484 | 15 傅萍这么搞不会有好果子的，肘子这人急了，就跟王八一样，死咬着不会松口的。
【在 s**i 的大作中提到】
: 没有。
: 这个老婊子很狡猾，她在离间西媒和她的批评者。让这两方掐，她就可以脱身了。
: 一再往nationalist上面扯。
: 大家是对这个事件发生后西媒表现的极度偏见不满。
: 她现在又觉着有机可乘，扭曲肘子动机，让读者认为对她的批评只是攻击西媒的渠道。
: 很无耻。少见的无耻。
| s**i
发帖数: 4448 | 16 何止肘子，惹恼了整个华人圈。
本来有人都叫停了，说给她留余地。
怎奈这个贪婪狡猾又愚蠢到家的女人不知好歹，继续火上浇油。
【在 w*p 的大作中提到】
: 傅萍这么搞不会有好果子的，肘子这人急了，就跟王八一样，死咬着不会松口的。
| d*******u
发帖数: 940 | 17 其实忍一忍，过两个礼拜大家就忘了。
尼玛这事已经快冷却了，这时候跳出来倒打一耙，不智。 | s**i
发帖数: 4448 | 18 是啊，这个女人毫无政治头脑。
是小处精明狡猾，大处愚不可及。
【在 n*****8 的大作中提到】
: 这种张口就胡擂的可真有本事啊。
: 如果老方真没说过，她这不是又给人一个把柄吗？
: :)
| w*p
发帖数: 16484 | 19 她可能真是病态liar
【在 s**i 的大作中提到】
: 是啊，这个女人毫无政治头脑。
: 是小处精明狡猾，大处愚不可及。
| o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 20 炒作才好买书啊。
她的书中国人肯定不买，越炒作，美国人可能越买。
【在 s**i 的大作中提到】
: 是啊，这个女人毫无政治头脑。
: 是小处精明狡猾，大处愚不可及。
| | | s**i
发帖数: 4448 | 21 书是小头。是她卖公司炒作的一部分。
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: 炒作才好买书啊。
: 她的书中国人肯定不买，越炒作，美国人可能越买。
| d*******u
发帖数: 940 | 22 这样一炒，3dsystem还会让她做副总？
盯着vp位置的人不少吧 | o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 23 她显然有人再给她出谋划策了。
资本主义社会唯利是图了。
她胡说八道为了卖钱，接着出来辩护，为了卖更多的钱。
【在 s**i 的大作中提到】
: 书是小头。是她卖公司炒作的一部分。
| s**********w
发帖数: 866 | 24 肘子说自己没有说过:
http://fangzhouzi.t.sohu.com/
"傅苹接受其公司所在地一家媒体的公关采访http://t.itc.cn/Ueph2 ，造我的谣对我进行攻击，说我发动了抹黑行动，说我在第二或第三篇文章里说“我才不在乎她成为受害者，我的目标是西方媒体”。我在哪篇文章里这么说过？你个骗子。她还说攻击是在《纽约时报》关于中国黑客的报道出来后第二天开始（其实《纽约时报》的那篇报道是后来的），人们对她搞互联网恐怖主义，她的前夫和女儿的邮箱被公布在网上并号召去给他们发憎恨邮件。谁这么干过了？批评她的人都同情她的前夫，觉得他的功劳被傅苹霸占了，谁会去给他发憎恨邮件？不过她透露了一个消息，就是我们对她的批评很有成效，此前她的书一天能卖出1500本，在我“发动”攻击后，一天只能卖出几本"
【在 n*****8 的大作中提到】
: 这种张口就胡擂的可真有本事啊。
: 如果老方真没说过，她这不是又给人一个把柄吗？
: :)
| L*********n
发帖数: 1225 | | n*****8
发帖数: 19630 | 26 没有啊，在哪儿呢？
老方这么快就回应了？
:)
【在 s**********w 的大作中提到】
: 肘子说自己没有说过:
: http://fangzhouzi.t.sohu.com/
: "傅苹接受其公司所在地一家媒体的公关采访http://t.itc.cn/Ueph2 ，造我的谣对我进行攻击，说我发动了抹黑行动，说我在第二或第三篇文章里说“我才不在乎她成为受害者，我的目标是西方媒体”。我在哪篇文章里这么说过？你个骗子。她还说攻击是在《纽约时报》关于中国黑客的报道出来后第二天开始（其实《纽约时报》的那篇报道是后来的），人们对她搞互联网恐怖主义，她的前夫和女儿的邮箱被公布在网上并号召去给他们发憎恨邮件。谁这么干过了？批评她的人都同情她的前夫，觉得他的功劳被傅苹霸占了，谁会去给他发憎恨邮件？不过她透露了一个消息，就是我们对她的批评很有成效，此前她的书一天能卖出1500本，在我“发动”攻击后，一天只能卖出几本"
| D**d
发帖数: 1186 | 27 Ping Fu (@pfugeomagic) tweeted at 10:25 AM on Sun, Feb 24, 2013:
After death threads, public humiliation and personal attack. I thank the
maker's support. Resilience is in all of us, body and soul....
https://twitter.com/pfugeomagic/status/305700036233285632
Get the official Twitter app at https://twitter.com/download | x***s
发帖数: 851 | 28 像她这样公然撒谎造假的，可以在美国做上市公司的管理团队，也算是一大奇观了。 | n*****8
发帖数: 19630 | 29 老将们现在抽副品的心思是不是都有了？
好不容易又是黑客，又是衙内地刷屏。才消停了几天，这姑奶奶又出来给老将们添麻烦
了。
:) | x****n
发帖数: 950 | 30 这老婊子就是没人操痒的利害。肘子对她很礼貌，老鸟人又当众撒谎。
【在 s**********w 的大作中提到】
: 肘子说自己没有说过:
: http://fangzhouzi.t.sohu.com/
: "傅苹接受其公司所在地一家媒体的公关采访http://t.itc.cn/Ueph2 ，造我的谣对我进行攻击，说我发动了抹黑行动，说我在第二或第三篇文章里说“我才不在乎她成为受害者，我的目标是西方媒体”。我在哪篇文章里这么说过？你个骗子。她还说攻击是在《纽约时报》关于中国黑客的报道出来后第二天开始（其实《纽约时报》的那篇报道是后来的），人们对她搞互联网恐怖主义，她的前夫和女儿的邮箱被公布在网上并号召去给他们发憎恨邮件。谁这么干过了？批评她的人都同情她的前夫，觉得他的功劳被傅苹霸占了，谁会去给他发憎恨邮件？不过她透露了一个消息，就是我们对她的批评很有成效，此前她的书一天能卖出1500本，在我“发动”攻击后，一天只能卖出几本"
| | | x***s
发帖数: 851 | 31 death threads 很严重，浮萍应该报警，把恐怖分子绳之以法。
【在 D**d 的大作中提到】
: Ping Fu (@pfugeomagic) tweeted at 10:25 AM on Sun, Feb 24, 2013:
: After death threads, public humiliation and personal attack. I thank the
: maker's support. Resilience is in all of us, body and soul....
: https://twitter.com/pfugeomagic/status/305700036233285632
: Get the official Twitter app at https://twitter.com/download
| n*****8
发帖数: 19630 | 32 这个要顶。
:)
【在 x***s 的大作中提到】
: death threads 很严重，浮萍应该报警，把恐怖分子绳之以法。
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