m**********n
发帖数: 27535 | 1 google了一下，要么就没用这词，要么就加引号 | c**********u
发帖数: 7276 | 2 头像好丑。
【在 m**********n 的大作中提到】
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| m**********n
发帖数: 27535 | 3 头像很漂亮
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: 头像好丑。
| c**********u
发帖数: 7276 | 4 你自己？
【在 m**********n 的大作中提到】
: 头像很漂亮
| m**********n
发帖数: 27535 | 5 你
【在 c**********u 的大作中提到】
: 你自己？
| w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 6
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2013/0814/A-massacr
A massacre in Cairo and a failure of US diplomacy in Egypt
Since the military coup that ousted the Muslim Brotherhood's Mohamed Morsi
from the Egyptian presidency on July 3, the Obama administration has bent
over backwards not to call it a "coup."
The reasoning behind this decision was that Egypt's military is the most
powerful force in the country and that alienating and punishing them for
their action would both undercut US influence and create the conditions for
a broad military crackdown. And, besides, the massive protests against Mr.
Morsi leading up to him being deposed and arrested showed he couldn't lead
or stabilize the country any more himself.
So while principled talk about "democracy" and getting militaries out of
politics is one thing, the world of realpolitik is something else. While
emissaries from Obama danced around the "coup" question, the US government
refused to announce a cut off in the Egyptian military's $1.3 billion annual
subsidy, and continually urged restraint and reconciliation.
RECOMMENDED: How much do you know about Egypt? Take this quiz.
These decisions led to odd rhetorical constructions from the US government,
as when State Department Spokeswoman Jen Psaki was pressed last week on
whether the Obama administration thought Egypt's military had carried out a
coup. "We have determined that we do not need to make a determination," she
said.
Today, the military and Gen. Abdel Fatah Sisi, delivered the military's own
determination: We're going ahead and doing it our way.
This morning Obama White House Spokesman Josh Earnest said that the US is
opposed to the state of emergency declared by Egypt's military, which gives
it sweeping powers, much as a state of emergency after the assassination of
Anwar Sadat in 1981 formed the backbone of the military-backed Mubarak
dictatorship that prevailed until 2011. Mr. Earnest said the US believes
today's actions will make achieving "stability" more difficult. He also said
that the US is not ready to determine whether Egypt has had a military coup
. He said Egypt's interim rulers have promised a swift creation of a
democracy and "it's a promise we're going to encourage them to keep."
Whether calling the coup by its proper name earlier would have changed
anything is now an academic debate. It doesn't really matter now. A cycle of
violence, with the military calling the shots, is all but assured for the
foreseeable future. Elections, let alone free and fair ones, this year? Not
likely to happen. Forming a national consensus on a revised constitution any
time soon? Also hard to imagine.
The illusion of US influence over Egypt's military – which is pursuing what
it sees as its own and its nation's interests – was brought home by the
visit of Republican Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham to Cairo last week
in which they met with the top brass and sought to act as mediators between
the military and the Muslim Brotherhood.
Sen. McCain appeared to recognize the risk of severe destabilization if the
military sought to eliminate the Muslim Brotherhood entirely from Egyptian
politics. In February 2011, he was staunchly opposed to a political role for
the Brothers. "I think they are a radical group that first of all supports
sharia law; that in itself is anti-democratic – at least as far as women
are concerned. They have been involved with other terrorist organizations
and I believe that they should be specifically excluded from any transition
government," he said then.
But on his visit to Cairo last week he expressed a different opinion. "We
believe they should treat each other with respect. We also urge the release
of political prisoners. We also urge strongly a national dialogue, a
national dialogue that is inclusive for parties, including the Muslim
Brotherhood," he said.
That dialogue will now come, if it comes at all, amid an atmosphere of fury
and distrust. US influence with the military has proven negligible so far.
The Muslim Brotherhood now views the US claims about supporting democracy as
hypocritical, since it stood by as an elected president was ousted. And the
Brotherhood's secular-leaning political opponents are angry at the failure
of the US to provide full-throated backing to the military and American
willingness to work with Morsi when he was Egypt's elected president.
It's a truism that you can't please everybody. But in the case of Egypt, the
US has pleased precisely no one. And the Arab world's most populous country
is heading into a period of turmoil likely to dwarf the troubles of the
past few years.
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| a********l
发帖数: 39524 | 7 clinton called tg "butchers in beijing". | w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 8
Cairo massacre: Scores killed and hundreds more injured as Egyptian
government declares war on the country's Islamists
As machine gun fire crackled around the besieged Islamist encampment in
eastern Cairo today, a 12 year-old boy called Omar was sat on a mattress
drinking from his carton of orange juice. Just a few yards away, the bodies
of 31 protesters lay on the grubby, blood-caked floor.
Many had been shot through the head and chest with high velocity bullets;
some bore gnarled lips betraying the agonising throes of death.
When asked how he felt to witness such scenes, the young boy - wearing Puma
flip-flops and blue jeans - remained silent and appeared confused for a few
moments. Then, with childlike fragility, he said very simply: “It's not
very nice”.
Whatever else the Egyptian state was hoping to achieve by launching its long
-awaited crackdown, the hundreds of young children who were cowering inside
the besieged sit-in will not likely forget the ferocity of a government
which has now declared war on the country's Islamists.
Egypt's leaders have unleashed a chain of unforeseeable consequences. Deadly
clashes were reported in provinces around the country, as police stations,
government institutions and Coptic churches were attacked in apparent
revenge attacks.
Scores were killed, hundreds more injured.
In a sign of how deeply the crackdown will affect Egypt's ongoing political
transition, Mohamed el-Baradei, the vice President and Nobel laureate,
resigned in protest over the crackdown. Meanwhile Egypt's interim government
has imposed a month-long state of emergency and night time curfew.
Inside the Rabaa al-Adawiya Mosque, the building which lies at the heart of
the east Cairo encampment, crying babies clung to their mothers as gunfire
raged around them following the start of the operation.
In the centre of the prayer hall, laid out on the carpet among hundreds of
women and toddlers in the stifling heat, ten bodies had been placed side by
side inside a cordon.
A little girl of about seven or eight, wearing pink trousers and a T-shirt,
made her way from one side of the mosque to the other by tottering between
the heads of the corpses.
“The police and the army don't understand any language except force,” said
Khalid Mohsen, a 50-year-old engineer who was trapped inside the siege. “
They want to kill anybody who has an opposing view.”
Given the sheer level of firepower unleashed on protesters, it is a view
which many Islamists may find hard to argue with.
According to witnesses the gunfire began early in the morning at around six
o'clock, as security forces who had surrounded the site launched their
ferocious assault. At a separate encampment in the west of the city, a
similar operation was also ordered.
By late afternoon the shooting was still continuing. Heavy semi-automatic
bursts of gunfire echoed around the nearby suburbs throughout the day. If
there was any let up, it was brief. For about 10 hours, the supporters of
Mohamed Morsi were subjected to a near-continuous barrage of live fire.
Single sniper shots shrieked down Nasr Road, the main thoroughfare leading
through the camp; sustained bursts of machine gun fire clattered into nearby
buildings; wayward rounds shredded through the labyrinthine networks of
tents and tarpaulin shacks.
At the nearby hospital, staff draped the windows with blinds as a precaution
against sniper rounds.
One doctor at the hospital, who gave his name only as Ahmed, said that even
the Israeli invasion of Gaza in 2008 had not been as bad.
"I was working there as a medic during that battle," he told The Independent
. "The Jews were much more humane that what is happening today. Even in war,
the rules are more respectable than this.
"In 12 days of fighting in Gaza, there were less dead than in six hours here
."
Amid the dizzying chaos of the massacre - the third which has been
perpetrated against Egypt's Islamists in a little over a month - reliable
casualty figures were difficult to come by.
According to Egypt's Health Ministry, 149 people were confirmed dead. Yet
the true figure is likely to be much higher. Dr Hisham Ibrahim, the head of
the Rabaa al-Adawiya field clinic, told The Independent that several hundred
people had been killed.
Whatever the final tally, the constant stream of bullet-riddled, disfigured
protesters meant it was impossible to store the corpses properly. Inside a
room which during the previous two massacres has been used as a morgue, 42
bodies were crammed up against each other on the floor.
As the carnage unfolded and more protesters were killed, other areas were
appropriated to house the dead.
Behind the stage which has been used by Islamist leaders to rally pro-Morsi
supporters for the past six weeks, 25 bodies were laid out wrapped in white
shawls, unrefrigerated in the sweltering August sun.
Next to the Rabaa al-Adawiya Mosque - where flies were soon gathering on the
ten corpses laid out in the prayer hall - another room being used as a
makeshift morgue.
A total of 31 bodies had been placed here. Volunteers had no time for
sentimentality; the same hall was being used to treat wounded protesters,
many of whom were lying moaning in agony just yards from the nearby cadavers.
"It's a genocide," said Dr Yehia Makkayah, a medic at the Rabaa hospital. "
They want us to disappear from the country. I could never imagine that
Egyptians would shoot Egyptians using these weapons."
Such was the chaos inside the hospital, a reception area on the second floor
had been utilised as yet another morgue to store a further 26 bodies. One
floor up in a tiny storeroom, two more corpses were lying in gleaming pools
of fresh blood.
Corridors barely a yard wide were lined with dozens upon dozens of wounded.
Luckier patients received drip feeds from a friend or relative; those who
were luckier still had the luxury of a hospital bed. The floors were sticky
with blood and vomit.
The sheer volume of the dead and the dying meant it was often impossible to
move up and down the main staircase. Injured protesters, most of them felled
by live fire, were stretchered up to the operating rooms, blood trickling
from their wounds as they went. The dead were stretchered in the other
direction, down to the lower level morgues.
"The army are the dogs of the Israelis," said Mohamed Mostafa, a vet who was
keeping vigil at the bedside of his brother-in-law, a 36-year-old whose
spine had been shattered by a bullet. "They are not Egyptians."
At the main morgue beside the field clinic, the mother of one victim, 16-
year-old Malik Safwat, struggled to reach him through the tightly-packed
rows of corpses.
"Don't move that body," said one of the morgue attendants to a volunteer
trying to clear a path. "Move a lighter one." She eventually found him,
tearfully shaking his left knee from side to side as if to try and wake him
up. His sister had also arrived. "My darling," she said in a trembling voice
. "Why my darling?"
By around 5pm, the security services had gained access to the hospital and
were clearing everybody out into the surrounding streets. Thousands of
people began filing out of the camp, as police bulldozers moved in to
destroy the remaining tents.
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| C******e
发帖数: 1850 | 9 CNN 都没上breaking news，新闻第四还是第五条说示威场所变成了war zone，真是见
识了
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
【在 m**********n 的大作中提到】
: google了一下，要么就没用这词，要么就加引号
| m*******l
发帖数: 12782 | 10 你比较一下这些英语报道和报道6.4的时候的有没有区别
bodies
Puma
few
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:
: Cairo massacre: Scores killed and hundreds more injured as Egyptian
: government declares war on the country's Islamists
: As machine gun fire crackled around the besieged Islamist encampment in
: eastern Cairo today, a 12 year-old boy called Omar was sat on a mattress
: drinking from his carton of orange juice. Just a few yards away, the bodies
: of 31 protesters lay on the grubby, blood-caked floor.
: Many had been shot through the head and chest with high velocity bullets;
: some bore gnarled lips betraying the agonising throes of death.
: When asked how he felt to witness such scenes, the young boy - wearing Puma
| | | m*******l
发帖数: 12782 | 11 哈哈
【在 C******e 的大作中提到】
: CNN 都没上breaking news，新闻第四还是第五条说示威场所变成了war zone，真是见
: 识了
:
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
| w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 12 肯定有区别，但是屠杀平民不会被当今世人所容。
此外，美国政府和美国媒体也不同，媒体和公众舆论应该和六四的时候类似，而美国政
府则不一定，就和布什总统首先访问六四后的中国一样，美国政府和邓小平有利益相关
，和埃及军事当局也一样。
【在 m*******l 的大作中提到】
: 你比较一下这些英语报道和报道6.4的时候的有没有区别
:
: bodies
: Puma
: few
| m**********n
发帖数: 27535 | 13 这不是新闻报道
for
【在 w********t 的大作中提到】
: 肯定有区别，但是屠杀平民不会被当今世人所容。
: 此外，美国政府和美国媒体也不同，媒体和公众舆论应该和六四的时候类似，而美国政
: 府则不一定，就和布什总统首先访问六四后的中国一样，美国政府和邓小平有利益相关
: ，和埃及军事当局也一样。
| w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 14 这不是新闻报道 ？
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: 这不是新闻报道
:
: for
| m**********n
发帖数: 27535 | 15 英媒
bodies
Puma
few
【在 w********t 的大作中提到】
: 这不是新闻报道 ？
| y**********g
发帖数: 2285 | 16 clash.
【在 m**********n 的大作中提到】
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| m**********n
发帖数: 27535 | 17 里面全是作者的观点
【在 w********t 的大作中提到】
: 这不是新闻报道 ？
| h******1
发帖数: 16295 | 18 俺跟他聊过,当然不是现在.
【在 m**********n 的大作中提到】
: 头像很漂亮
| w********t
发帖数: 12853 | | m*******l
发帖数: 12782 | 20 不要拍脑袋,去好好做功课
【在 w********t 的大作中提到】
: 肯定有区别，但是屠杀平民不会被当今世人所容。
: 此外，美国政府和美国媒体也不同，媒体和公众舆论应该和六四的时候类似，而美国政
: 府则不一定，就和布什总统首先访问六四后的中国一样，美国政府和邓小平有利益相关
: ，和埃及军事当局也一样。
| | | w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 21 刚刚几个小时，已经到处是埃及开罗屠杀的字眼。
【在 m**********n 的大作中提到】
: 里面全是作者的观点
| m*******l
发帖数: 12782 | 22 July 08 2013?
Egypt
【在 w********t 的大作中提到】
: 刚刚几个小时，已经到处是埃及开罗屠杀的字眼。
| m**********n
发帖数: 27535 | 23 July 08, 2013
而且这就是个标题，你怎么找不着如美联社之类的报道
Egypt
【在 w********t 的大作中提到】
: 刚刚几个小时，已经到处是埃及开罗屠杀的字眼。
| m*******l
发帖数: 12782 | 24 对,这个事要看AP怎么报道
【在 m**********n 的大作中提到】
: July 08, 2013
: 而且这就是个标题，你怎么找不着如美联社之类的报道
:
: Egypt
| N*******e
发帖数: 3872 | 25 你这是欺骗别人还是欺骗你自己？
在资本立国的美国，资本就是政治，
政府和媒体分别是政治的左右手，
民众都是被媒体洗脑的，尤其是西方国家的民众
【在 w********t 的大作中提到】
: 肯定有区别，但是屠杀平民不会被当今世人所容。
: 此外，美国政府和美国媒体也不同，媒体和公众舆论应该和六四的时候类似，而美国政
: 府则不一定，就和布什总统首先访问六四后的中国一样，美国政府和邓小平有利益相关
: ，和埃及军事当局也一样。
| w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 26 埃及屠城，开罗屠杀，已经是公认的事件标题，我不明白 massive killing,
bloodshed, 怎么就不是屠杀 。。。。 屠杀这个词会在未来成为这个事件的标签，无
论现在哪个媒体用了哪个媒体不用，你敢不敢打赌 ？
美国媒体后来说六四事件，也并非都用屠杀一词，象镇压，流血，也用得很多。
【在 m**********n 的大作中提到】
: July 08, 2013
: 而且这就是个标题，你怎么找不着如美联社之类的报道
:
: Egypt
| m*******l
发帖数: 12782 | 27 你还是看看AP的通稿吧
【在 w********t 的大作中提到】
: 埃及屠城，开罗屠杀，已经是公认的事件标题，我不明白 massive killing,
: bloodshed, 怎么就不是屠杀 。。。。 屠杀这个词会在未来成为这个事件的标签，无
: 论现在哪个媒体用了哪个媒体不用，你敢不敢打赌 ？
: 美国媒体后来说六四事件，也并非都用屠杀一词，象镇压，流血，也用得很多。
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