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发帖数: 918 | 1 老中的孩子愿意学习，愿意当nerd，那是老中的选择；但老中没权要求老黑、老莫的孩
子当nerd、努力学习；老莫、老黑也没有要求老中的孩子努力打球、泡妞。
事实是各族裔在公立大学受教育的比例跟人口比例不对应，这是一个问题，会影响美国
社会的和谐，需要解决。就象贫富差距一样，就是一个社会存在的问题需要解决，跟穷
人是不是努力赚钱没有一毛钱关系。
解决贫富差距要通过税收调节，解决受教育不均等，就要通过按族裔比例入学。
美国的大学教育首先注重的不是公平，而是平均。
所以，自然要AA，要解决受教育不平均这个问题。
老中扯那些AA不公平、小墨小黑不学习都是胡搅蛮缠，政府考虑的美国社会的大局，是
美国社会的和谐和稳定，美国的这些教育法案、政策也是通过民主程序决定的，程序上
合法合理，反应的也是主流民意。
如果你觉得你的孩子因此失去了上好大学的机会，那是因为你不能同主价值观统一思想
，是你的问题，是你不能适应社会。
难道还能因为穆斯林不吃猪肉，就全中国都禁止吃猪肉了？ | w*****s
发帖数: 2896 | 2 左逼出来秀下限了, 大家快过来捧场, 喝彩.
【在 B*********r 的大作中提到】
: 老中的孩子愿意学习，愿意当nerd，那是老中的选择；但老中没权要求老黑、老莫的孩
: 子当nerd、努力学习；老莫、老黑也没有要求老中的孩子努力打球、泡妞。
: 事实是各族裔在公立大学受教育的比例跟人口比例不对应，这是一个问题，会影响美国
: 社会的和谐，需要解决。就象贫富差距一样，就是一个社会存在的问题需要解决，跟穷
: 人是不是努力赚钱没有一毛钱关系。
: 解决贫富差距要通过税收调节，解决受教育不均等，就要通过按族裔比例入学。
: 美国的大学教育首先注重的不是公平，而是平均。
: 所以，自然要AA，要解决受教育不平均这个问题。
: 老中扯那些AA不公平、小墨小黑不学习都是胡搅蛮缠，政府考虑的美国社会的大局，是
: 美国社会的和谐和稳定，美国的这些教育法案、政策也是通过民主程序决定的，程序上
| c******a
发帖数: 4400 | | c******a
发帖数: 4400 | 4 发信人: cloveara (不帅拿), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: 出一计解决教育冲突＋提升华人地位，供大家讨论！！
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Mar 4 20:26:29 2014, 美东)
全社会范围的大讨论感觉快要来了，对我们最不利的就是一部分满嘴大道理的人说，华
人真自私，不care其他种族。马上听众就开始联想起华人种种不积极种种不参与的负面
形象了，又联系起中国，那舆论会相当不利。华人自己也确实与其他种族相对隔绝。我
出一计，可促进五族共和，提高美国社会和谐，同时更提高华人地位
华人小孩不是一直成绩好，但总缺leadership，缺community贡献吗？黑墨小孩儿不是
付不起tutor费用吗？又嫌黑墨聚集的学校水平低吗？可以组织一个Volunteer-based
tutor program。安排学习好并且愿意贡献的小孩儿来当tutor，给成绩落后的低年级学
生进行1对多周末辅导或者after school辅导。因为tutor数量众多，所以做这个机会可
能还要抢，我接下来说解释。
program应该做成很formal的项目，在州立教育部门登记，在网上公示。schedule由小
孩volunteer来做，大人volunteer负责交通和安保。这里面所有volunteer内容做登记
并报教育部门备案。tutor应尽量找亚裔，学习的应尽量找黑墨，州里只负责安排教室
，不需要什么经费。
这么搞对于黑墨，也是难得的真正免费补习的机会，看到优秀的人，也促进他们成长，
促进他们对于亚裔为什么成绩好的理解－－原来人家真的work hard，说实话，假如黑
墨成绩进步，对社会也确实是有正面价值的，垃圾少了，社区就安全了。自食其力了，
纳税人负担就轻一点。。退一万步，即使辅导了也没啥用，这也促进了族裔之间相互理
解相互尊重。
虽然亚裔小孩好像多做了事情，但是其实有很大益处的：
1。这个program可以提供leadership，community service的铁证，将互助行为和自己
华裔利益直接挂钩，是最好的incentive。真正热心参加项目的亚裔会有良好record，
这样加州大学再也没有理由歧视高分的亚裔了。原来的community service，说出来谁
也无法证实，鸡同鸭讲，而这个是有正式记录的。所以我预测，如果真能开展，是要抢
着做的。
2。提供亚裔关心社区，帮助其他族裔的铁证。提高亚裔整体形象。
3。当老师的人都知道，学会给别人解释清楚概念，实际上巩固自己的理解，反而提高
自己的成绩
4。家长带学生参加这种公益又需要自己组织的活动，实际上对孩子成长很有益处，比
千篇一律的弹钢琴吹小号有用多了。帮助别人是很有益身心健康的。参与组织当备课的
小老师锻炼处事能力和leadership，这里面说不准能诞生将来的亚裔政治领袖
5。让高年纪学生辅导低年级学生，这样既保证能讲明白，又不和自己竞争。而且，因
为从高年级做起，实际要花的时间累计没那么多。
6。最大的可能，黑墨辅导之后大部分还是不能和亚裔竞争，毕竟差的太远，而亚裔又
补强了community service，所以入学比例绝对不会降低，但是声誉却增加了。
7。从此在黑墨幼年心中树立“亚裔就是老师”的概念。
几个问题：1，黑墨学生参加不够怎么办？至少我们有了说法：不是我们不帮忙，实是
别人不上进。2，安保如何保证？州里负责安排学校教室，由注册的大人volunteer负责
把门。3，学生打架怎么办，要打架平时学校里就打了，何必after class专门来寻事！
4，小孩儿不会教课怎么办？正好训练其能力。积累一段时间，就有“教材”了，大人
也可以把把关。华人phd这么多，搞这个还不行么！ | a***a
发帖数: 1879 | 5 应该和反对吃人肉一样.
SCA5是针对人的, 猪肉是针对猪的 | L*****s
发帖数: 24744 | 6 poor analogy...re-post dude.. | q*c
发帖数: 9453 | 7 美国最牛逼，可以命令自然规律符合平均，而不是其本身的规律。
比如数十年后东方列强的大炮驾在加州海岸上的时候，美国可以要求上帝为美国劳模专
门制定物理规律，刀枪不入，然后就赢了。
当年我们中国义和团不就这样搞的嘛，历史总是重复自己，呵呵。
【在 B*********r 的大作中提到】
: 老中的孩子愿意学习，愿意当nerd，那是老中的选择；但老中没权要求老黑、老莫的孩
: 子当nerd、努力学习；老莫、老黑也没有要求老中的孩子努力打球、泡妞。
: 事实是各族裔在公立大学受教育的比例跟人口比例不对应，这是一个问题，会影响美国
: 社会的和谐，需要解决。就象贫富差距一样，就是一个社会存在的问题需要解决，跟穷
: 人是不是努力赚钱没有一毛钱关系。
: 解决贫富差距要通过税收调节，解决受教育不均等，就要通过按族裔比例入学。
: 美国的大学教育首先注重的不是公平，而是平均。
: 所以，自然要AA，要解决受教育不平均这个问题。
: 老中扯那些AA不公平、小墨小黑不学习都是胡搅蛮缠，政府考虑的美国社会的大局，是
: 美国社会的和谐和稳定，美国的这些教育法案、政策也是通过民主程序决定的，程序上
| h*****h
发帖数: 1392 | 8 听说美国，犹太人个个是大学生，德国人个个是大学生，所以以色列和德国必须依靠移
民、外籍劳工来解决服务业的劳动力短缺。据说在德国，一个水管工的收入可比大学教
授。
现在国内也开始出现了有趣的现象：大学扩招过度，结果大学生就业难，就业了的收入
也不高了，还不如技校生。有些收入不高的农民家庭，认识到读大学并不是利益最大化
，就干脆不让孩子读大学了，去学个修汽车，都大把赚钱。没听说前两天一个美国回去
的中科大毕业的小孩杀了父母吗？据说起因就是他发现村里的小伙伴儿都发了，都比他
有钱，而这些人都没上大学，更别说跟中科大毕业的他比了。他觉得自己最聪明，怎么
沦落到。。。就怪到父母头上了。
我也许说的有点走题。华人都是一根筋的。但是当赚钱跟读书两个目标不再是重合关系
，华人会不会出现无所适从的情况，会不会造成精神崩溃之类的心理问题？比如说，孩
子有两个选择：博士而穷；高中而富。你要哪个？我觉得大多数华人家长面对这道题都
会精神崩溃。事实上大家没发现吗？读书好的人真未必富有。来美国的都是大陆的读书
精英，大家自己说说，好比你们是你们班第一，那么是不是班上最有钱的？是不是倒数
？你跟你的中小学同学、那些没考上大学的比比，是不是他们当中很多人比你有钱的多？ | f*********n
发帖数: 1293 | 9 顶着锅盖说一句 逻辑上LZ是没错的
当然如果我是穆斯林，我肯定会反对吃猪肉
这种事情没有道理可讲，为了我们亚裔的利益，必须站出来斗争 斗争的形式当然就包
括似是而非的逻辑了 | a********t
发帖数: 4508 | 10 楼主的逻辑是混乱的。按楼主的说法，穆斯林应该和“主流大众”一样吃猪肉才对。不
吃猪肉是穆斯林的问题。不主流，不普世。
【在 f*********n 的大作中提到】
: 顶着锅盖说一句 逻辑上LZ是没错的
: 当然如果我是穆斯林，我肯定会反对吃猪肉
: 这种事情没有道理可讲，为了我们亚裔的利益，必须站出来斗争 斗争的形式当然就包
: 括似是而非的逻辑了
| | | b********o
发帖数: 1241 | 11 LZ脑残逻辑。
大学的定位本来就不是义务教育, 是高等教育, 是有限社会资源.
大学生是干什么的？是学习和研究知识的还是泡妞性交吸毒的？
大学的毕业标准是什么？ 是知识的掌握加critical thinking, 还是性交次数吸毒的量？
如果不喜欢学习, 喜欢性交未成年人生育吸毒寻乐, 大可以随心所欲. 但大学开设的目
的和他们的人生目的并不相附合, 为什么要进大学. 要浪费纳税人的钱? | z*****j
发帖数: 39 | 12 楼主，药不能停，按你的逻辑打NBA的黑人是不是应该给亚裔让点位置出来？不然怎么
能体现AA的精神呢？ | S**m
发帖数: 397 | 13 LZ简直脑残的令人发指啊！
大学可以不以分数做为招生的主要指标，比如可以规定分数25%,体育25%,艺术25%,社会
活动25%，但这规定必须面向所有学生，而不能只针对某一种族肤色。如果这样做，亚
裔的入学比例肯定会下降，但不能也不会反对的这么激烈了。
实际上AA是中上层老黑老墨愚弄下层老黑老墨的工具，试想一个贫民窟的老黑如何同你
们公司中产老黑的子女争夺入学名额？AA实际上在老黑老墨中制造了一个世袭的贵族阶
层。提高某些少数族裔入学率的办法只有：
1.大力提高差区的中小学教育；
2.对经济困难的学生无种族差别得提供经济资助。
AA 和SCA5只是政党竞选工具，加大少数族裔内部的贫富差距，加剧族裔之间的对立。
【在 B*********r 的大作中提到】
: 老中的孩子愿意学习，愿意当nerd，那是老中的选择；但老中没权要求老黑、老莫的孩
: 子当nerd、努力学习；老莫、老黑也没有要求老中的孩子努力打球、泡妞。
: 事实是各族裔在公立大学受教育的比例跟人口比例不对应，这是一个问题，会影响美国
: 社会的和谐，需要解决。就象贫富差距一样，就是一个社会存在的问题需要解决，跟穷
: 人是不是努力赚钱没有一毛钱关系。
: 解决贫富差距要通过税收调节，解决受教育不均等，就要通过按族裔比例入学。
: 美国的大学教育首先注重的不是公平，而是平均。
: 所以，自然要AA，要解决受教育不平均这个问题。
: 老中扯那些AA不公平、小墨小黑不学习都是胡搅蛮缠，政府考虑的美国社会的大局，是
: 美国社会的和谐和稳定，美国的这些教育法案、政策也是通过民主程序决定的，程序上
| g******h
发帖数: 115 | 14 关于德国的情况，不属实...
【在 h*****h 的大作中提到】
: 听说美国，犹太人个个是大学生，德国人个个是大学生，所以以色列和德国必须依靠移
: 民、外籍劳工来解决服务业的劳动力短缺。据说在德国，一个水管工的收入可比大学教
: 授。
: 现在国内也开始出现了有趣的现象：大学扩招过度，结果大学生就业难，就业了的收入
: 也不高了，还不如技校生。有些收入不高的农民家庭，认识到读大学并不是利益最大化
: ，就干脆不让孩子读大学了，去学个修汽车，都大把赚钱。没听说前两天一个美国回去
: 的中科大毕业的小孩杀了父母吗？据说起因就是他发现村里的小伙伴儿都发了，都比他
: 有钱，而这些人都没上大学，更别说跟中科大毕业的他比了。他觉得自己最聪明，怎么
: 沦落到。。。就怪到父母头上了。
: 我也许说的有点走题。华人都是一根筋的。但是当赚钱跟读书两个目标不再是重合关系
| s****w
发帖数: 24 | | s*******s
发帖数: 9926 | 16 本文的网路版本在这里: http://nosca5.blogspot.com/2014/02/sca5.html
反对SCA-5具体有效的步骤, 请转发
从我做起, 从现在做起! 我们还来得及反对SCA5. 目前, 加州众议院的80席中, 有55席
民主党, 25席共和党. 对这个法案SCA5的支持是党派分票, 所以我们只需要保证 2个以
上民主党议员勇敢地站出来, 投票反对, 我们就可以让法案胎死腹中. 现在我们可以做
的是写信给代表我们选区的加州众议员, 去他们的网站给他们写.
Step 1: 下面网站里选Act Now有两个请愿投票, 有时间先去投票, 这样才能壮大声势.
这两个网站都需要注册, 但是Change.org和Whitehouse.gov是最常见的请愿网站, 将
来一定该还有用到的机会, 花点时间注册并不吃亏.
http://www.saynosca5.com/
美亚团结促进会的United Against SCA5 - Please click here to sign letter to
contact your elected representatives选项在收集反对SCA-5的加州民众资料, 可以
很快去填一下.
http://www.uaafa.org/
Step 2: http://findyourrep.legislature.ca.gov/
住在加州的朋友先寻找自己选区的州众议员
Step 3:
可能被影响的民主党州众议员列表, 这一份名单有被精心筛选过, 确定是机率比较高,
不会让大家浪费子弹, 集中火力攻击, 先写好篇文章, 这篇下面有很多范例, 不想写直
接找一篇贴上发给对方也没关系, 最重要是让对方了解有这么多人重视这个问题, 内容
其实不重要, 简单表达意思就够. 但最好是自己能添加一些自己的意见, 能够写一篇自
己的文章是最好, 反正能够发那么多遍, 多花点时间在这里也是值得. 然后将这封信用
Email再加上Facebook用Message发给下面列表所有的人, 我自己试过发一遍, 全部发完
应该不会超过15分钟.
其中中间这种https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/地址的要发比较特别, 一定必须要
是填该选区地址, 才能写电子邮件给他们, 不然不会让你发, 所以如果不是自己选区或
是有可用地址的就不用了.
另外除了最简单的发电子邮件外, 也可以打电话, Fax传真, 登门拜访都可以视情况运
用联络.
Wesley Chesbro (North Coast)
710 E Street, Suite 150, Eureka, CA 95501
Tel: (707) 445-7014 Fax: (707) 445-6607
Email: a********************[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD02
Richard Pan (潘君达) (Sacramento)
2251 Florin Road, Suite 156, Sacramento CA 95822
Phone: (916)-262-0999 Fax: (916)262-0995
Email: a****************[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD09
http://www.drrichardpan.com/contact
https://www.facebook.com/RichardPanMD
Ken Cooley (Sacramento)
2729 Prospect Park Drive, Suite 130, Rancho Cordova, CA 95670
Tel: (916) 464-1910 Fax: (916) 464-1915
Email: a*******************[email protected] & k*[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD08
http://www.kencooley.com/contact
https://www.facebook.com/ken.cooley
Mariko Yamada (Southern Sacramento Valley, Wine Country, & North Bay)
725 Main Street Suite 206, Woodland, CA 95695
Tel: (530) 662-7867 Fax: (530) 662-6370
Email: a*******************[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD04
http://www.marikoyamada.net/contact
https://www.facebook.com/assemblymember.yamada
Marc Levine (North Bay)
3501 Civic Center Drive, Room 412, San Rafael, CA 94903
Tel: (415) 479-4920 Fax: (415) 479-2123
Email: a*******************[email protected] & l***************[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD10
https://www.facebook.com/joinmarc
Rob Bonta (Central East Bay of the Bay Area)
1515 Clay Street, Ste. 2204, Oakland, CA 94612
Phone: (510) 286-1670 Fax: (510) 286-1888
Email: a******************[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD18
http://www.robbonta.com/contact/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Assemblymember-Rob-Bonta/160502927367568
Joan Buchanan (East Bay)
2694 Bishop Dr., Ste. 275, San Ramon, CA 94583
Tel: (925) 328-1515 Fax: (925) 328-1514
Email: a*********************[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD16
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Assemblymember-Joan-Buchanan/220573791429818
Tom Ammiano (San Francisco)
455 Golden Gate Avenue, Suite 14300, San Francisco, CA 94102
Phone (415) 557-3013 Fax (415) 557-3015
Email: a********************[email protected] & t*********[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD17
https://www.facebook.com/AssemblymemberTomAmmiano
Phil Ting (丁右立) (San Francisco & San Mateo County)
455 Golden Gate Avenue, Suite 14600, San Francisco, CA 94102
Tel: (415) 557-2312 Fax: (415) 557-1178
Email: a*****************[email protected] & p**[email protected]
i**[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD19
https://www.facebook.com/philtingsf
Kevin Mullin (San Francisco Peninsula)
1528 South El Camino Real, Suite 302, San Mateo, CA 94402
Tel: (650) 349-2200 Fax: (650) 341-4676
Email: a*******************[email protected] & k***[email protected]
i**[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD22
https://www.facebook.com/AssemblymemberKevinMullin
Rich Gordon (San Francisco Peninsula suburbia into Silicon Valley)
5050 El Camino Real, Suite 117, Los Altos, CA 94022
Tel: (650) 691-2121 Fax: (650) 691-2120
Email: a*******************[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD24
https://www.facebook.com/RichGordon24
Paul Fong (方文忠) (Silicon Valley)
2105 South Bascom Avenue, Suite 160, Campbell, CA 95008
Tel: (408) 371-2802 Fax: (408) 371-2809
Email: a*****************[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD28
http://www.paulfongforcouncil.com/#!contact/c1zdo
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Paul-Fong/12907543117
Bob Wieckowski (East Bay and Silicon Valley)
39510 Paseo Padre Parkway, Suite 280, Fremont, CA 94538
Tel: (510) 440-9030 Fax: (510) 440-9035
Email: a***********************[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD25
https://www.facebook.com/bobwieckowski
https://www.facebook.com/Wieckowski4Senate
Mark Stone (Monterey Bay)
701 Ocean Street, 318-B, Santa Cruz, CA 95060
Tel: (831) 425-1503 Fax: (831) 425-2570
Email: a******************[email protected] & i**[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD29
http://friendsofmarkstone.org/contact
https://www.facebook.com/AssemblymemberMarkStone
Das Williams (Santa Barbara and Ventura)
101 W. Anapamu Street, Suite A, Santa Barbara, CA 93101
Tel: (805) 564-1649 Fax: (805) 564-1651
Email: a*********************[email protected] & das.williams2014@gmail.
com
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD37
https://www.facebook.com/DasWilliamsPage
Ed Chau (周本立) (San Gabriel Valley)
1255 Corporate Center Dr. Ste 306, Monterey Park, CA 91754
Tel: (323) 264-4949 Fax: (323) 264-4916
Tel: (626) 403-3033 Fax: (626) 403-3022
Email: a*****************[email protected] & e*************[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD49
https://www.facebook.com/edwin.chau.98
Mike Gatto (Eastern end of the San Fernando Valley)
300 East Magnolia Boulevard, Suite 504, Burbank, CA 91502
Tel: (818) 558-3043 Fax: (818) 558-3042
Email: a******************[email protected] & [email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD43
http://mikegatto.com/volunteers/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Assemblyman-Mike-Gatto/248355458520271
Richard Bloom (West Los Angeles)
2800 28th Street, Suite 150, Santa Monica, CA 90405
Tel: (310) 450-0041 Fax: (310) 450-6090
Email: a******************[email protected] & r*****[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD50
http://www.richardbloom.com/contact
https://www.facebook.com/RichardBloomCampaign
Al Muratsuchi (South Bay, Beach Cities and the Palos Verdes Peninsula)
3460 Torrance Blvd., Suite 306, Torrance, CA 90503
Tel: (310) 316-2164 Fax: (310) 316-2480
Email: a***********************[email protected] & i**[email protected]
m*****[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD66
https://www.facebook.com/almuratsuchi
Sharon Quirk-Silva (North Orange County)
1400 North Harbor Blvd., Suite 601, Fullerton, CA 92835
Tel: (714) 526-7272 Fax: (714) 526-7278
Email: a************************[email protected] & campaign@
sharonquirksilva.com
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD65
https://www.facebook.com/AssemblywomanSharonQuirkSilva
Toni Atkins (San Deigo)
1350 Front St., Room 6054, San Diego, CA 92101
Tel: (619) 645-3090 Fax: (619) 645-3094
Email: a*******************[email protected] & toniatkinsforassembly2012@
gmail.com
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD78
https://www.facebook.com/SDToni
https://www.facebook.com/toni.atkins.52
下面是请愿文章的范例, 电子邮件标题要清楚简洁表达文章内容, 例如Please vote "
NO" on SCA-5!, 发文章时称呼对方用First Name就可以, 写自己的名字的时候最好是
First Name+Last Name, 这样看起来比较正式有力.
Dear XXX,
I urge you to take immediate steps against SCA-5. SCA-5 is schemed to change
the California educational system. SCA-5 will eliminate the right to be
protected against all kinds of discrimination in education. Making things
even worse is the fact that SCA-5 is merely the first step towards a
terrible path. SCA-5 would result in mandated discrimination against certain
students applying to UC campuses.
From a purely practical standpoint, a policy of rejecting high-performing
students based on their ethnicity is a self-defeating idea. It goes against
everything our supposedly enlightened state stands for. Fairness is a key
principle upon which our educational system should be based. When students
work hard so they can get into a good school, they should have equal
opportunity at admission regardless of ethnicity or gender. SCA-5 will
undermine this basic principle of fairness.
In addition, according to numerous studies, minority students might feel
stigmatized by affirmative action, believing they were admitted on the basis
of their group status, not individual achievement or ability. These
students often consider themselves second-class students, and feel other
students see them in the same light. They are more likely to fail in school
and drop out. Many of our K-12 schools are failing our students, leaving
them unprepared for college. No student should suffer a huge fall in life
because the school the government has chosen for them is not a good fit.
Everyone loses when students drop out.
I hope that our legislators will have courage to reject SCA-5. You will win
my vote if you vote no to SAC-5. Otherwise I will vote against Democrats
from now on and will advise all friends and family to do the same.
Cordially yours,
XXX
Dear XXX,
I sincerely urge you to vote against SCA-5. President Obama said recently “
Billions of people in India and China are striving hard to out-educate
Americans in mathematics and technology. And every year brings more research
showing them pulling ahead. We live in a 21st century global economy. And
in a global economy, jobs can go anywhere." The United States is facing
unprecedented economic and intellectual competition from countries around
the world. This competition will not be decided on the basis of product
price and assortment but in our classrooms and universities. Technology is
shaping the future of the United States and changing our world dramatically.
According to American Civil Rights Coalition, "In the 17 years Prop 209 has
been in effect, California has led the way towards color-blind government
and increased graduation rates in higher education by using race and gender
neutral policies." Prop 209 results in a significant increase in graduation
rates in higher education. This is exactly what California needs to do.
Qualified college graduates ensure an educated workforce for tomorrow's
economy. If we grant preferential treatment based on race in college
admission, history tells us that fewer students will graduate from colleges.
Employers will not be able to find workers with the qualified skills to
fill an increasingly technical job market. This will affect the quality of
the workforce and the state's economic health. Companies will have to spend
more hire skilled workers, potentially from foreign countries, invest more
heavily in workforce development or even outsource jobs overseas. Therefore
SCA-5 is not in America's best interest.
I, therefore, am writing to urge you to vote against SCA-5. SCA-5 will hurt
our economy in the long run. Everyone in California will suffer from short-
sighted policy-making which holds back our growth. If Democrats pass SCA-5
in the Assembly, I'm sure a lot of people who have knowledge will be
enormously upset.
Yours truly,
XXX
Dear XXX,
I write today to urge you to take immediate action against SCA-5. No one has
the right to discriminate against any individuals based on their race. Just
as Abraham Lincoln declared in his Gettysburg Address, years ago our
fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in liberty,
and dedicated to the proposition that “all men are created equal.”
You cannot change facts simply by repeating a lie over and over again. The
color of someone’s skin doesn’t tell you anything about the traits that
qualify them for college. The color of someone’s skin also does not tell
you anything about that individual’s socioeconomic background. Students
from impoverished backgrounds need special consideration to succeed, no
matter their race.
Say no to racism! Say no to SCA-5. Fight for what generations before us have
fought for. SCA-5 is wrapped up in a claim of racial equality and diversity
, but it is pure evil and a fundamental violation of what true racial
equality means. If Democrats pass SCA-5 in the Assembly, tons of people in
California who have morals will hold this against the entire Democrat Party.
Everyone in our community take this matter seriously.
Sincerely yours,
XXX
Dear XXX,
I strongly urge you to vote NO on SCA-5. Martin Luther King Jr. passed away
46 years ago. What happened to "I have a dream that my four little children
will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of
their skin but by the content of their character."? Judging students by
their skin colors is itself inherently discriminatory. We are living
individuals! We represent only ourselves. No one is over represented here.
We got admitted into universities after working our asses off for years. No
one has the right to discriminate against any individuals based on their
race. The only way to create a society with true racial equality is to stop
considering race in the admission process.
Science and higher education should be "color-blind". Decisions based on
race are not the road to prosperity, equality, or stronger feelings of self
esteem in individuals. Selections based on one's color, not one's
achievements and skills, is only working to separate our society further. It
is ill-advised to set different standards for students based on the color
of their skin. Separating kids only makes them feel inferior and that should
’nt be acceptable to anyone. We ought not say that for some ethnic students
the goal is below some other ethnic students.
Therefore I'm asking you to vote NO on SCA5! Otherwise, I think the Democrat
Party has gone over the edge and need to be voted out. Who will demand
equality and justice for all? We are a nation that was built upon the very
principles that all men, and I emphasize all are created equal. Everyone in
our community will pay particular attention to this matter.
Yours Faithfully,
XXX
Dear XXX,
Please vote No on SCA-5. What the SCA-5 acutually does is sheer idiocy and
doesn't make the slightest bit of sense. It's amazing that we still judge
people by their race. Is this really how we want to educate our future
generations? Is there ever going to be an end to racism?
It is in fact a no win situation. Children go to schools and have their GPAs
raised due to race. They later go to colleges based on fictitious GPAs.
Unfortunately professors won't be on board with this plan. Most likely they
won't be able to keep up, rank toward the bottom of the class, and quit or
drop out from schools. What a disaster it would be? This is the problem that
we call "mismatch". It is a problem verified by research.
Say No to SCA-5! Preferential treatment based on race in college admission
is not the right practice. California should not enrolled students based on
race rather than qualifications. Lawmakers need to work on bills which
applies to everyone regardless of their race for improvements in the quality
of education for poor communities or for closing the gap where students
have underachieved.
Yours truly,
XXX
Dear XXX,
I strongly urge you to vote NO on SCA-5. This bill against our
constitutional belief that all men are created equal. In addition it against
the "American Dream". That dream of a land in which life should be better
and richer and fuller for everyone, with opportunity for each according to
ability or achievement.
The fundamental flaw in SCA-5 is racial preferences in college admissions
harm their intended beneficiaries. We refer to this problem as "mismatch".
It is a problem documented by a vast and growing array of research. It will
place students in environments where they can neither learn nor compete
effectively. As a result, students quit or drop out from schools. These same
students would thrive had they gone to less competitive schools. As such
racial preferences lead to devastated outcomes.
In addition, having underprepared students entering colleges would greatly
diminish the quality of education. This is a lose-lose scenario. No one
should be allowed to damage our elite University of California system. Once
it is damaged it is really difficult to rebuild. Going to college is a
privilege, not a right. You would have to work hard to earn a spot.
Therefore I'm asking you to vote NO on SCA5! It is the right thing to do.
Preferential treatment based on race in college admission is not the right
practice. The state shall not discriminate against, or grant preferential
treatment on the basis of race.
Yours truly,
XXX
Dear XXX,
I hereby urge you to vote NO to SCA-5! As SCA-5 will roll back the clock to
the days when students were discriminated against based on their race. SCA-5
hide under the disguise of equal opportunity. However SCA-5 is in fact the
antithesis of equal opportunity as it demands equal outcomes. But true
equity demands fair outcomes for all. The injustice of disparities in any
population is when equity is diminished. It is communism in essence since
resources are to be divided equally. It will destroy the incentive to excel
and compete and drag down U.S. competitiveness in the long run.
Lawmakers need to work on bills which applies to everyone regardless of
their race for improvements in the quality of education for poor communities
or for closing the gap where students have underachieved. What messages are
we sending to our children that they should be treated differently because
of their race, instead of their efforts and qualifications?
Therefore I strongly urge you to fight against SCA-5. I have a dream, do you
? Everyone in our community will pay close attention to this matter.
Thank you,
XXX
Dear XXX:
Please vote "NO" on SCA-5. This bill is to include race as a factor to
provide preference in college admissions. I firmly believe that this is
against the fundamental principles of U.S. law and the American legal system
. All men are equal regardless of race.
Therefore, I strongly urge you to vote NO on this matter. Your vote is very
important to everyone in our community.
Thank you,
XXX
Dear XXX,
Please vote "NO" on SCA-5. SCA-5 proposed using race as a factor in college
admissions. I urge you to fight against SCA-5. Just as Martin Luther King,
Jr. said 41 years ago, no children should be judged by the color of their
skin, but by the content of their character. Your child(ren) deserve this
dream. Every American child deserves this dream. Don't you agree? It is
about right or wrong. This is where the difference comes between a
politician and a statesman/woman.
It's your choice which side you're on. I have a dream, do you? The people
who shares the same dream as Martin Luther King, Jr. will remember your
choice. They will decide who they vote for, who they send money to, and who
they canvass for.
Best regards,
XXX
Dear XXX,
Please vote "NO" on SCA-5. It is pure racism! My kids future is as important
as anyone's kids. Why two individuals at the same level of education might
differ in their college admissions? What century do we live in? This is
supposedly a country that believes in equality.
I strongly urge you to fight against SCA-5. Otherwise, no more votes and
donations from me and all my relatives and friends for you or any Democrats.
Everyone in our community will pay close attention to this issue.
Respectfully,
XXX
Dear XXX,
Please vote "NO" on SCA-5. Objection to any law that allow any
discrimination against, or granting preferential treatment to, any
individual or group on the basis of race in the operation of public
education. Racial discrimination is wrong, whichever way it goes, in
whatever name. If diversity is the point of preferences, why only in college
admissions? Why not in the recruitment process of government agencies? in
entertainment, in sports...
I strongly urge you to fight against SCA-5. All men are equal regardless of
race. Otherwise, no more votes and donations from me and all my relatives
and friends for you or any Democrats. Everyone in our community will pay
close attention to this issue.
Best regards,
XXX
Dear XXX,
Please vote "NO" on SCA-5. I am impressed that this clear violation of
constitutional law could even pass the senate! What are senators doing? How
do we explain to our children that what they've been taught on equal
opportunity is no longer true. It has been amended. Martin Luther King, Jr.
said I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a
nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the
content of their character. But it is no longer in accord with reality. Why
don't we amend the employment standards after college admissions? So those
who are entitled to privileges in admission could automatically get
government jobs?
I strongly urge you to fight against SCA-5. All men are equal regardless of
race. Otherwise, no more votes and donations from me and all my relatives
and friends for you or any Democrats. Everyone in our community will pay
close attention to this issue.
Respectfully,
XXX
Dear XXX,
Please vote "NO" on SCA-5. This bill is total racism. What a degradation! It
's a waste of public money for those senators working on this nonsense. The
rational behind the bill is totally ridiculous. We believe in the right of
education for all Californians. California should not enrolled students
based on race rather than qualifications.
I strongly urge you to fight against SCA-5. Otherwise, no more votes and
donations from me and all my relatives and friends for you or any Democrats.
Everyone in our community will pay close attention to this issue.
Sincerely yours,
XXX
Dear XXX,
Please vote "NO" on SCA-5. "I have a dream that my four little children will
one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of
their skin, but by the content of their character."---Martin Luther King, Jr
. Do we helping Martin Luther King's dream(which is my dream too)? Do we
punish hard working students by racial preferences? Is this the right way to
promote better education for California?
I strongly urge you to fight against SCA-5. Otherwise, no more votes and
donations from me and all my relatives and friends for you or any Democrats.
Everyone in our community will pay close attention to this issue.
Yours truly,
XXX
Dear XXX,
Please vote "NO" on SCA-5. The only barrier for student of any colors for
higher education is their work enthusiasm. How about we do the same thing
for the State Assembly? Candidate must collect certain amount of votes (
scores in S.A.T.) to be qualified, then by using qualified candidates’ race
and ethnic background to decide if he/she can become a member of the
California State Assembly. Because "We need to ensure that the State
Assembly reflects our changing population".
I strongly urge you to fight against SCA-5. Students should be admitted
based on merits, not race! Otherwise, no more votes and donations from me
and all my relatives and friends for you or any Democrats. Everyone in our
community will pay close attention to this issue.
Sincerely yours,
XXX
Dear XXX,
Please vote NO on SCA 5 as it is a racist bill. It promotes discrimination
by judging people based on their race. Admission to any school among other
things, should solely based on their own merit and not on their color, race,
and etc. I believe preferential treatment based on race in college
admission is not the right practice. In addition it violates the Equal
Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.
I strongly urge you to vote "No" on SCA 5. Students deserve have an equal
opportunity in the college admission process regardless of their race. Thank
you for listening to the voice of your people.
Respectfully,
XXX
Dear XXX,
Please vote "NO" on SCA-5. This is ridiculous and is so wrong! This is a
reverse discrimination. This proposition limits the opportunity of certain
kids to attend the University of California because of their races. Higher
education should be offered to those who can do it.
I strongly urge you to fight against SCA-5. Students deserve have an equal
opportunity in the college admission process regardless of their race. I
always support Democrats. But if Democrats pass SCA-5 in the Assembly, I
will immediately switch my support to Republicans in future elections. Most
people in my community rank education as the most important policy issue.
Best regards,
XXX
最后可以再加上下面这些, 有些文章和一个影像是相当好的.
For more information on this topic, please refer to articles and a video
below.
The Painful Truth About Affirmative Action
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/10/the-painful
Elder vs. State Senator Ed Hernandez (D-CA) on Racial Preferences, Jan. 31,
2014
http://vimeo.com/86149155
In U.S., Most Reject Considering Race in College Admissions
http://www.gallup.com/poll/163655/reject-considering-race-colle
UC proves Prop. 209's point
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jul/12/opinion/la-oe-lehrer-af
Viewpoints: A step backward on higher education enrollment
http://www.sacbee.com/2014/02/08/6138480/viewpoints-a-step-back
Careful, California voters, your wishes are under attack
http://articles.latimes.com/2014/feb/07/opinion/la-oe-gratz-cal
如果要加文章连结可能要再修整一下, 如果在讨论区用copy & paste有可能贴成不完整
连结, 用nosca5.blogspot.com上的文章就没这个问题, 请注意一下这一点. 要确认一
下是完整的网址.
这里有些反SCA-5的海报, 也可以考虑加在电子邮件中或传真都可以运用.
http://nosca5.blogspot.com/2014/02/sca-5.html
Step 4:
使用下面这个网站邮寄信件给你选区的加州众议员表达意见, 这个网站已经全部帮忙设
定好, 花不到几分钟就可以产生一篇非常完整详细的请愿信.
http://www.no2sca5.org/
http://www.no2sca5.org/#Why-A-Snail-Mail-to-Your-Representative
Step 5:
下面这些是其他加州民主党众议员的联络方式, 我觉得他们改变立场的机率低, 如果要
尝试的话用email再加上facebook的message扫一遍就好了, 应该也花不了太多时间.
Isadore Hall, III
Tel: (310) 223-1201 Fax: (310) 223-1202
Email: a*****************[email protected] & i*****[email protected]
i**[email protected]
http://www.isadorehall.com/ (选Contact Us)
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Isadore-Hall-for-Assembly/209986370129
Chris Holden
Tel: (626) 351-1917 Fax: (626) 351-6176
Email: a*******************[email protected] & i**[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/Assemblymember
Reggie Jones-Sawyer
Tel: (213) 744-2111 Fax: (213) 744-2122
Email: a*************************[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/reggiejonessawyersr
Bonnie Lowenthal
Tel: (562) 495-2915 Fax: (562) 495-2983
Email: a**********************[email protected] & Bonnie@
BonnieforLongBeach.com
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bonnie-Lowenthal/25127873810
Steve Bradford
Tel: (310) 412-6400 Fax: (310) 412-6354
Email: a*********************[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/stevenbradford62
Cheryl Brown
Tel: (909) 381-3238 Fax: (909) 885-8589
Email: a******************[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/cheryl.brown.988711
Adrin Nazarian
Tel: (818) 376-4246 Fax: (818) 376-4252
Email: a*********************[email protected] & adrinforassembly@gmail.
com
https://www.facebook.com/AdrinNazarian
Bill Quirk
Tel: (510) 583-8818 Fax: (510) 583-8800
Email: a******************[email protected]
http://www.electbillquirk.com/contact
https://www.facebook.com/BillQuirkAD20
Matthew Dababneh
Tel: (818) 904-3840
Email: a*********************[email protected] & m**[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/MattDababnehForAssembly
Tom Daly
Tel: (714) 939-8469 Fax: (714) 939-8986
Email: a*****************[email protected] & [email protected]
Roger Dickinson
(916) 324-4676 Fax: (916) 327-3338
Email: a**********************[email protected] & r***[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/assemblymemberdickinson
Sebastian Ridley-Thomas
Tel: (310) 342-1070 Fax: (310) 342-1078
Email: a**************************[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/SRTforAssembly
Steve Fox
Tel: (661) 267-7636 Fax: (661) 267-7736
Email: a****************[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/pages/I-Support-Steve-Fox-2014/183712445136345
Nancy Skinner
Tel: (510) 286-1400 Fax: (510) 286-1406
Email: a********************[email protected] & c*****[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/asm.nancy.skinner
Jim Frazier
Tel: (707) 399-3011 Fax: (707) 399-3030
Email: a********************[email protected]
http://jimfrazierforassembly.com/contact-jim-frazier/
https://www.facebook.com/ASMJimFrazier
Shirley Weber
Tel: (619) 531-7913 Fax: (619) 531-7924
Email: a******************[email protected] & i**[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/ShirleyWeberCalliforniaStateAssembly
Adam Gray
Tel: (209) 726-5465 Fax: (209) 726-5469
Email: a*****************[email protected] & a**[email protected]
http://www.adamgrayforassembly.com/contact-us
https://www.facebook.com/AdamGrayForAssembly
Susan Bonilla
Tel: (925) 521-1511 Fax: (925) 602-1536
Email: a********************[email protected] & s***[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/JoinSusanBonilla
Luis Alejo
(831) 759-8676 Fax: (831) 759-2961
Email: a******************[email protected] & V***********[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/lalejo
Raul Bocanegra
Tel: (818) 504-3911 Fax: (818) 504-3912
Email: a**********************[email protected] & r**[email protected]
c*****[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/RaulJBocanegra
Ian Calderon
Tel: (562) 692-5858 Fax: (562) 695-5852
Email: a*********************[email protected]
http://ianccalderon.com/#contact
https://www.facebook.com/AssemblymemberIanCalderon
Nora Campos
Tel: (408) 277-1220 Fax: (408) 277-1036
Email: a*******************[email protected]
Susan Eggman
Tel: (209) 948-7479 Fax: (209) 465-5058
Email: a*******************[email protected] & i**[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/susan.eggman
Cristina Garcia
Tel: (562) 861-5803 Fax: (562) 861-5158
Email: a*******************[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/cristinagarciaad58
Jimmy Gomez
Tel: (213) 483-5151 Fax: (213) 483-5166
Email: a******************[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/assemblymemberjimmygomez
Lorena Gonzalez
Tel: 619-338-8090 Fax: 619-338-8099
Email: a*********************[email protected] & V********[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Lorena-Gonzalez-for-State-Assembly/
398973036849751
Roger Hernandez
Tel: (626) 960-4457 Fax: (626) 960-1310
Email: a**********************[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/Vote.Roger.Hernandez
Jose Medina
Tel: (951) 369-6644 Fax: (951) 369-0366
Email: a*******************[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/AsmJoseMedina
Henry Perea
Tel: (559) 445-5532 Fax: (559) 445-6006
Email: a******************[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/AssemblymemberPerea
John A. Pérez
Tel: (213) 620-4646 Fax: (213) 620-6319
Email: A***********************[email protected] & HQ@perezforcontroller.
com
https://www.facebook.com/SpeakerPerez
V. Manuel Perez
Tel: (760) 342-8047 Fax: (760) 347-8704
Email: A*************************[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/pages/V-Manuel-Perez-CA-State-Assemblymember/
382172440154
Anthony Rendon
Tel: (562) 529-3250 Fax: (562) 529-3255
Email: a*******************[email protected] & assemblyman.arendon@gmail.
com
https://www.facebook.com/AssemblyMemberAnthonyRendon
https://www.facebook.com/anthonyrendonforassembly
Freddie Rodriguez
Email: a**********************[email protected] & e**********[email protected]
r*****[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Freddie-Rodriguez-for-Assembly/
519771921405293
Rudy Salas
Email: A******************[email protected] & i**[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/rudysalas
https://www.facebook.com/rudysalasjr
下面这个人是SCA-5提案人, 请大家让他知道种族歧视是不好的, 不要再继续提出这样
的法案.
Ed Hernandez
Phone: (626) 430-2499 Fax: (916) 651-4924
Email: s***************[email protected]
http://www.edhernandez4senate.com/ (选Contact)
https://www.facebook.com/DrEdHernandez | B*1
发帖数: 1029 | 17 楼主你去找穆斯林谈谈公平起见大家一同吃猪肉吧，看剁不剁你个脑残。 | s**********e
发帖数: 33562 | 18 神经病
【在 B*********r 的大作中提到】
: 老中的孩子愿意学习，愿意当nerd，那是老中的选择；但老中没权要求老黑、老莫的孩
: 子当nerd、努力学习；老莫、老黑也没有要求老中的孩子努力打球、泡妞。
: 事实是各族裔在公立大学受教育的比例跟人口比例不对应，这是一个问题，会影响美国
: 社会的和谐，需要解决。就象贫富差距一样，就是一个社会存在的问题需要解决，跟穷
: 人是不是努力赚钱没有一毛钱关系。
: 解决贫富差距要通过税收调节，解决受教育不均等，就要通过按族裔比例入学。
: 美国的大学教育首先注重的不是公平，而是平均。
: 所以，自然要AA，要解决受教育不平均这个问题。
: 老中扯那些AA不公平、小墨小黑不学习都是胡搅蛮缠，政府考虑的美国社会的大局，是
: 美国社会的和谐和稳定，美国的这些教育法案、政策也是通过民主程序决定的，程序上
| C*****y
发帖数: 510 | 19 great idea!
【在 c******a 的大作中提到】
: 发信人: cloveara (不帅拿), 信区: SanFrancisco
: 标 题: 出一计解决教育冲突＋提升华人地位，供大家讨论！！
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Mar 4 20:26:29 2014, 美东)
: 全社会范围的大讨论感觉快要来了，对我们最不利的就是一部分满嘴大道理的人说，华
: 人真自私，不care其他种族。马上听众就开始联想起华人种种不积极种种不参与的负面
: 形象了，又联系起中国，那舆论会相当不利。华人自己也确实与其他种族相对隔绝。我
: 出一计，可促进五族共和，提高美国社会和谐，同时更提高华人地位
: 华人小孩不是一直成绩好，但总缺leadership，缺community贡献吗？黑墨小孩儿不是
: 付不起tutor费用吗？又嫌黑墨聚集的学校水平低吗？可以组织一个Volunteer-based
: tutor program。安排学习好并且愿意贡献的小孩儿来当tutor，给成绩落后的低年级学
| r*****g
发帖数: 9999 | 20 这智商真对得起这ID。
【在 B*********r 的大作中提到】
: 老中的孩子愿意学习，愿意当nerd，那是老中的选择；但老中没权要求老黑、老莫的孩
: 子当nerd、努力学习；老莫、老黑也没有要求老中的孩子努力打球、泡妞。
: 事实是各族裔在公立大学受教育的比例跟人口比例不对应，这是一个问题，会影响美国
: 社会的和谐，需要解决。就象贫富差距一样，就是一个社会存在的问题需要解决，跟穷
: 人是不是努力赚钱没有一毛钱关系。
: 解决贫富差距要通过税收调节，解决受教育不均等，就要通过按族裔比例入学。
: 美国的大学教育首先注重的不是公平，而是平均。
: 所以，自然要AA，要解决受教育不平均这个问题。
: 老中扯那些AA不公平、小墨小黑不学习都是胡搅蛮缠，政府考虑的美国社会的大局，是
: 美国社会的和谐和稳定，美国的这些教育法案、政策也是通过民主程序决定的，程序上
| | | N*******M
发帖数: 3963 | 21 你会是两种人
1) 脑残
或
2）不是真的脑残，但事爱讲笑话
【在 B*********r 的大作中提到】
: 老中的孩子愿意学习，愿意当nerd，那是老中的选择；但老中没权要求老黑、老莫的孩
: 子当nerd、努力学习；老莫、老黑也没有要求老中的孩子努力打球、泡妞。
: 事实是各族裔在公立大学受教育的比例跟人口比例不对应，这是一个问题，会影响美国
: 社会的和谐，需要解决。就象贫富差距一样，就是一个社会存在的问题需要解决，跟穷
: 人是不是努力赚钱没有一毛钱关系。
: 解决贫富差距要通过税收调节，解决受教育不均等，就要通过按族裔比例入学。
: 美国的大学教育首先注重的不是公平，而是平均。
: 所以，自然要AA，要解决受教育不平均这个问题。
: 老中扯那些AA不公平、小墨小黑不学习都是胡搅蛮缠，政府考虑的美国社会的大局，是
: 美国社会的和谐和稳定，美国的这些教育法案、政策也是通过民主程序决定的，程序上
| l****g
发帖数: 5080 | 22 猪流民意是很恶心的,当年西特勒的行为也符合猪流民意。
【在 N*******M 的大作中提到】
: 你会是两种人
: 1) 脑残
: 或
: 2）不是真的脑残，但事爱讲笑话
| p**o
发帖数: 1012 | 23 一点没看出来楼主的逻辑。感觉楼主别的话都是瞎扯的，一点逻辑都没有。
真正的核心意思就是：只要符合美国大多数选民意愿的就都是对的，少数民族不要反抗。
直接说这一句不就完了吗？扯的别的漏洞百出，也没啥联系
【在 B*********r 的大作中提到】
: 老中的孩子愿意学习，愿意当nerd，那是老中的选择；但老中没权要求老黑、老莫的孩
: 子当nerd、努力学习；老莫、老黑也没有要求老中的孩子努力打球、泡妞。
: 事实是各族裔在公立大学受教育的比例跟人口比例不对应，这是一个问题，会影响美国
: 社会的和谐，需要解决。就象贫富差距一样，就是一个社会存在的问题需要解决，跟穷
: 人是不是努力赚钱没有一毛钱关系。
: 解决贫富差距要通过税收调节，解决受教育不均等，就要通过按族裔比例入学。
: 美国的大学教育首先注重的不是公平，而是平均。
: 所以，自然要AA，要解决受教育不平均这个问题。
: 老中扯那些AA不公平、小墨小黑不学习都是胡搅蛮缠，政府考虑的美国社会的大局，是
: 美国社会的和谐和稳定，美国的这些教育法案、政策也是通过民主程序决定的，程序上
| x*****u
发帖数: 6559 | | B*********r
发帖数: 918 | 25 少数民族到底要不要反抗？
如果要反抗，那穆斯林就是不要吃猪肉，老中就是要反抗sca5.
如果不要反抗，那穆斯林就是应该跟汉族一样吃猪肉，老中就是要同意SCA5.
你的立场究竟是哪个？
或者，你根本没有立场和原则，你的唯一的立场就是自私自利？
抗。
【在 p**o 的大作中提到】
: 一点没看出来楼主的逻辑。感觉楼主别的话都是瞎扯的，一点逻辑都没有。
: 真正的核心意思就是：只要符合美国大多数选民意愿的就都是对的，少数民族不要反抗。
: 直接说这一句不就完了吗？扯的别的漏洞百出，也没啥联系
| B*********r
发帖数: 918 | 26 如果你坚持穆斯林不应该和”主流大众“一样，我也同意，但你是不是也应该认为华人
在美国也应该和”主流大众“一样，不反对SCA5呢？
或者你的立场相反也可以，我也不觉得有什么问题。
但是你要是两面三刀，对国内的穆斯林坚持顺应主流，但对美国华人却坚持反主流，你
这不就是无原则的耍无赖吗？
【在 a********t 的大作中提到】
: 楼主的逻辑是混乱的。按楼主的说法，穆斯林应该和“主流大众”一样吃猪肉才对。不
: 吃猪肉是穆斯林的问题。不主流，不普世。
| B*********r
发帖数: 918 | 27 公立大学是社会的公共资源，公共资源的分配原则不仅仅是公平（大家一个起跑线上竞
争），还有平均（要照顾弱势群体）。
具体问题上，应该是更注重公平还是更注重平均，在美国就是要通过民主的方法投票决
定，在中国就是共产党说了算。
量？
【在 b********o 的大作中提到】
: LZ脑残逻辑。
: 大学的定位本来就不是义务教育, 是高等教育, 是有限社会资源.
: 大学生是干什么的？是学习和研究知识的还是泡妞性交吸毒的？
: 大学的毕业标准是什么？ 是知识的掌握加critical thinking, 还是性交次数吸毒的量？
: 如果不喜欢学习, 喜欢性交未成年人生育吸毒寻乐, 大可以随心所欲. 但大学开设的目
: 的和他们的人生目的并不相附合, 为什么要进大学. 要浪费纳税人的钱?
| a**e
发帖数: 8800 | 28 如果没有要求我们纳税，随便他们怎么折腾。
【在 B*********r 的大作中提到】
: 老中的孩子愿意学习，愿意当nerd，那是老中的选择；但老中没权要求老黑、老莫的孩
: 子当nerd、努力学习；老莫、老黑也没有要求老中的孩子努力打球、泡妞。
: 事实是各族裔在公立大学受教育的比例跟人口比例不对应，这是一个问题，会影响美国
: 社会的和谐，需要解决。就象贫富差距一样，就是一个社会存在的问题需要解决，跟穷
: 人是不是努力赚钱没有一毛钱关系。
: 解决贫富差距要通过税收调节，解决受教育不均等，就要通过按族裔比例入学。
: 美国的大学教育首先注重的不是公平，而是平均。
: 所以，自然要AA，要解决受教育不平均这个问题。
: 老中扯那些AA不公平、小墨小黑不学习都是胡搅蛮缠，政府考虑的美国社会的大局，是
: 美国社会的和谐和稳定，美国的这些教育法案、政策也是通过民主程序决定的，程序上
| w*****s
发帖数: 2896 | 29 不是说你, 实在是你自己脑子糊涂了. 你的脑子中已经没有是非, 对错, 和善恶的概念
了, 有的只是投票, 民主. 10个人投票, 要杀1个人, 不管他有没有错, 只要多数认为
该杀, 你就认为是民主的, 正确的. 你知道, 历史上, 多数人对少数人的暴政, 也是非
常常见的. 我没研究过你的身份, 来历和背景, 但你是非观确实有很大的问题.
对于你自己认为很矛盾的下边的话, 希望你自己能找到答案. |
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