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f********4
发帖数: 2883
1
刚才找到一篇2010文章,说:
Black on Chinese Killings Rare, Crime Stats Show
http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_
SAN FRANCISCO, Calif. -- The killing in Oakland of Tian Sheng Yu, 59, by two
18-year-old African-American men two weeks ago has inflamed tensions
between the Bay Area's black and Chinese communities.
Coming after a series of attacks on and around the T streetcar line in San
Francisco's Bay View-Hunters Point neighborhood, it's also raised fears in
the Chinese community of a wave of black-on-Asian violence.
But while tensions between the two communities may be running high, crime
statistics show such incidents are exceedingly rare.
"Oakland's recent high year for homicide was 2006, with 149 killings. All
but six victims were black or Hispanic," noted Frank Zimring, who directs
the Center for Studies of Criminal Justice at UC Berkeley.
While the race of every perpetrator is not known, Zimring guesses that there
was at most one homicide with a black offender and an Asian victim.
"The resentment is probably not rare, but the victimizations are," he said.
In San Francisco, where Asians outnumber blacks by a factor of five to one,
blacks are more than 10 times more likely to be homicide victims, according
to a racial breakdown of homicide deaths provided to New America Media by
the San Francisco Police Department (SFPD).
SFPD Homicide Data
Between January 2007 and April 14, 2010, the SFPD data shows, 129 African
Americans were murdered in San Francisco compared to 12 Asians. Asians were
also five times less likely to be killed than Latinos and half as likely to
be murdered as whites.
Indeed, a San Francisco Chronicle log of murders in the city shows that from
January 2007 through September 2009, not a single Asian person was murdered
in the Bay View, and an examination of news reports around each killing
shows little to suggest a pattern of black on Asian violence.
Taken together, the deaths of a relatively small number of Asians in the
city fail to show any pattern at all. In the Richmond District, Rosuke
Yoshioka, 46, the long-time owner of Sushi-Man in Japantown, was stabbed to
death in the parking lot of an OfficeMax by another Asian man, Peter Fong,
in an apparently random act of violence. In the Excelsior, a member of the
Salvadoran MS-13 street gang was arrested for shooting and killing Philip Ng
, 24, and his friend Ernad Joldic, 21, as they waited in their car for a
pizza at 2 a.m. In the Marina, a Vietnamese woman, Mai Banh, was bludgeoned
to death in her nail salon. Her husband, Jeff Nguyen, was arrested and
quickly admitted to the murder, telling police that he went into a rage and
beat her to death.
Unlike the killing of Tian Sheng Yu, none of these killings was front-page
news, and none has inflamed community passions the way his killing has.
Part of the reason, some say, is that Yu's killing comes in the context of a
series of daily incidents on city streets and its public transit system.
In January, Huan Chen, 83, was kicked and beaten as he left the Muni stop at
Third and Oakdale in the Bay View. He died about two months later.
Then in March, five teenagers surrounded a 57-year-old woman at the same
Muni stop. Surveillance camera video from the second incident shows one of
her assailants grabbing the victim by the neck and throwing her from the
platform. A few days later, a group of teenagers assaulted a Muni rider on
Third and Williams streets.
"Kids are tired of getting their iPods snatched and seniors are tired of
being assaulted," said San Francisco Supervisor Eric Mar, who has been
attending meetings with the police department, district attorney, mayor's
office, and community leaders since Yu's death.
Mar said he's optimistic that community pressure will lead to increased
police enforcement but said he does not see signs that City Hall will take
steps to reduce racial tensions.
"When we complain about being victimized, African Americans respond saying,
'We've been victimized for generations,'" he said. "That's not helpful in
solving the problem."
Filmmaker Le Mun Wah, who's film "Color of Fear" explores racism between
Asian and African-American communities, said tensions have been rising in
part because Chinese Americans have been slowly changing the demographics of
many Bay Area neighborhoods that were historically African-American.
"There's more tension between Asians and blacks in the Bay Area than between
blacks and whites because there aren't many whites living in the Oakland
flats or in Bay View-Hunters Point," he said. "We interact on a daily basis,
but we don't interact with each other. We don't hire each other. We don't
shop at each other's stores. We just tolerate each other."
In the absence of conversation, Wah said, stereotypes can take hold.
"African Americans see Asians buying up all these houses and opening liquor
stores, and they think we're bringing all this money into the neighborhood
and not contributing to it," he said. "At the same time, Asians have all of
these stereotypes created by the white community."
For example, when he was in third grade, Wah said, his white teacher greeted
him warmly on his first day at school, saying what a pleasure it was to
have him in class, mentioning that she enjoyed teaching his older brother.
When an African-American student walked into class on the first day of
school, Wah recalled, the teacher said, "If I hear one word out of you, you'
re going to be kicked out."
"I thought, 'Wow,'" Wah said, "I guess he must have been a bad kid."
On the other hand, UC Berkeley Professor Frank Zimring said, "many low
achieving minority kids in the Bay Area see Asian mobility and resent it."
Those stereotypes, Wah said, created by whites, are "instilled into us by
our parents. They tell us to lock the doors when you go into a black
community, they're going to kill you, they're going to rape you, et cetera."
The crime stats may point in another direction. But in the absence of
communication, Wah said, it doesn't take much to spark a flashpoint between
the two communities.
2010 到2014,有多少华人被黑人杀了,请列举在此。要有真名实姓的,能够证明的。
w*******r
发帖数: 7276
2
Oakland本来就没几个华人,你要他们都被杀了?用一个城市来代表美国?呵呵

two

【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 刚才找到一篇2010文章,说:
: Black on Chinese Killings Rare, Crime Stats Show
: http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_
: SAN FRANCISCO, Calif. -- The killing in Oakland of Tian Sheng Yu, 59, by two
: 18-year-old African-American men two weeks ago has inflamed tensions
: between the Bay Area's black and Chinese communities.
: Coming after a series of attacks on and around the T streetcar line in San
: Francisco's Bay View-Hunters Point neighborhood, it's also raised fears in
: the Chinese community of a wave of black-on-Asian violence.
: But while tensions between the two communities may be running high, crime

f********4
发帖数: 2883
3
这是民权运动前华人被白人屠杀的研究:(死的华人不少)
http://www.cinarc.org/violence.html
a******9
发帖数: 20431
4
以前都是抢劫 老中老老实实交钱就行了 后来才开始杀人

two

【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 刚才找到一篇2010文章,说:
: Black on Chinese Killings Rare, Crime Stats Show
: http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_
: SAN FRANCISCO, Calif. -- The killing in Oakland of Tian Sheng Yu, 59, by two
: 18-year-old African-American men two weeks ago has inflamed tensions
: between the Bay Area's black and Chinese communities.
: Coming after a series of attacks on and around the T streetcar line in San
: Francisco's Bay View-Hunters Point neighborhood, it's also raised fears in
: the Chinese community of a wave of black-on-Asian violence.
: But while tensions between the two communities may be running high, crime

f********4
发帖数: 2883
5
这正是我在前面一个帖子里说的,20年前很少听见黑人杀华人,抢劫倒是很多。现在为
什么变得不仅抢,要动辄杀人了?跟主流媒体的挑拨离间,跟华人自己的缺点难道就没
有关系?

【在 a******9 的大作中提到】
: 以前都是抢劫 老中老老实实交钱就行了 后来才开始杀人
:
: two

f********4
发帖数: 2883
6
这篇文章的犯罪数据仅仅是奥克兰的吗?
你要知道其他的,你可以提供数据,案例。

【在 w*******r 的大作中提到】
: Oakland本来就没几个华人,你要他们都被杀了?用一个城市来代表美国?呵呵
:
: two

f********4
发帖数: 2883
7
过去10年,白人杀了45个黑人以外的有色人种。那亚裔应该是第一大少数族裔吧?分派
到头上的应该不少。
黑人同期杀了36个白人以外的有色人种,摊到亚裔头上肯定少于白人杀的。
d****o
发帖数: 32610
8
你这个隐含假设,所有人种well-mixed

【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 过去10年,白人杀了45个黑人以外的有色人种。那亚裔应该是第一大少数族裔吧?分派
: 到头上的应该不少。
: 黑人同期杀了36个白人以外的有色人种,摊到亚裔头上肯定少于白人杀的。

f***r
发帖数: 5548
9
不一样,白人大多杀得是罪有应得的外发女,
黑猴子不光杀我们这些过了弯曲贫困线的白犹模范宠物,还逼得我们白犹主子都没活路
了,万一白犹主子没了,谁赏我们饭吃?。。。
--舔货
f********4
发帖数: 2883
10
选择性遗忘症的华人应该被提醒一下了,就找到了以下文章:
Hate Crimes Against Asian Pacific Americans
Ignorance, racism, and anti-immigrant sentiment cause hate violence
targeting of Asian Pacific Americans of Chinese, Japanese, Korean, or
Vietnamese descent, and other heritages. In 2007, 2.5 percent of all
reported hate crimes (188 out of 7,624) were committed against Asian Pacific
Americans, a ratio that has declined slightly relative to other groups over
the past decade.
This decline obscures an extremely disturbing fact: many of these hate
crimes are perpetrated against Asian Pacific American children, often by
other children. In a troubling article titled "Asian Youth Persistently
Harassed By U.S. Peers," the Associated Press chronicled these hate crimes
committed against Asian Pacific American youth:
In 2005, while waiting on a subway platform in Brooklyn, New York, 18
year-old Chen Tsu was accosted by four high school classmates who demanded
his money. After Tsu showed his classmates his pockets were empty, they
assaulted him, taking turns beating his face. Tsu was scared and injured —
bruised and swollen for several days — but hardly surprised. At his school,
Lafayette High in Brooklyn, Chinese immigrant students like him are
harassed and bullied so routinely that school officials in June agreed to a
Department of Justice consent decree to curb alleged "severe and pervasive
harassment directed at Asian-American students by their classmates." Said
Tsu after his beating, "Those guys looked like they could kill somebody. ...
I was scared to go back to school."
In South Boston, 16 year-old Vietnamese student Bang Mai was killed on
July 11, 2004 in a massive brawl between white and Vietnamese youths. The
basketball court brawl was the result of weeks of tension between the two
groups. Mai was fatally stabbed as he attempted to walk away from the brawl.
Sixteen year-old Keith E. Gillespie was convicted of manslaughter and
sentenced to five years in prison.38
In Fresno, California at Edison High School, Hmong students had been
taunted and had food thrown at them during lunch. On February 25, 2005, the
taunts escalated into fights involving at least 30 students, resulting in
numerous injuries, suspensions, and expulsions. Eight students were
convicted of misdemeanor assault.39
Across the nation, the Associated Press found that Asian students say they
are often beaten, threatened, and called ethnic slurs by other young people,
and school safety data suggest that the problem may be worsening. Youth
advocates say these Asian teens, stereotyped as high-achieving students who
rarely fight back, have for years borne the brunt of ethnic tension as Asian
communities expand and neighborhoods become more racially diverse. "We
suspect that in areas that have rapidly growing populations of Asian
Americans, there often times is a sort of culture clashing," said Aimee
Baldillo of the National Asian Pacific American Legal Consortium (now the
Asian American Justice Center). Youth harassment is "something we see
everywhere in different pockets of the U.S. where there's a large influx of
(Asian) people."40
Other examples of hate crimes committed against Asian Pacific Americans
include:
In August 2006, four New Yorkers of Chinese descent were attacked in
Douglaston, Queens, New York by two white men shouting racial epithets. The
white men beat two of the Chinese Americans with a steering wheel locking
bar. Kevin M. Brown, 19, of Auburndale, and Paul A. Heavey, 20, of Little
Neck, were charged with assault and hate crimes. Douglaston and other nearby
communities are now almost one-third Asian, and tensions have escalated. "
There's an undercurrent of suspicion of the new immigrant — what are they
doing, what are they building, what are they putting in that store?" said
Susan Seinfeld, the district manager of Community Board 11, which includes
Douglaston. A local City Councilman has introduced legislation to require
store owners to include English translations on signs.41
"It definitely doesn't shock me," said one white resident of the area
about the attack. "The entire strip of Northern Boulevard in the past four
or five years went from German and Italian to Korean."42
In Chicago in September 2007, Du Doan, a 62 year-old Vietnamese man, was
pushed off a fishing pier into the icy waters of Lake Michigan, where he
drowned. John Haley, 31, a self-described "skinhead,"43 was charged with
first degree murder after he told police how he "pushed our victim in the
water — that being taking both hands, shoving them in the back, and
literally catapulting him into the water." Earlier, Haley reportedly pushed
a second Asian man into Lake Michigan who was able to swim safely to shore
and also tried to shove a third Asian man off the pier who fought him off.
Despite these reports, police did not charge Haley with a hate crime and
have not classified the murder as a hate crime incident.44
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g****5
发帖数: 1639
11
老黑主要都在杀他们本族人,可见老黑是个不种族歧视的人种。老墨也不种族歧视。
说到种族歧视来,除了老白,就是老中了。
f***r
发帖数: 5548
12
你举的例子中被白人杀害的是亚裔,但不都是华人
我一个白人朋友告诉我,白人很恨日本人越南人,因为这两个国家都欺负过中国。
白人喜欢中国人,因为我们勤劳善良,白人是为我们出气才杀的那些亚裔,只是我们亚
洲人长得像,才会有个别华人被误杀。。。

Pacific
over

【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 选择性遗忘症的华人应该被提醒一下了,就找到了以下文章:
: Hate Crimes Against Asian Pacific Americans
: Ignorance, racism, and anti-immigrant sentiment cause hate violence
: targeting of Asian Pacific Americans of Chinese, Japanese, Korean, or
: Vietnamese descent, and other heritages. In 2007, 2.5 percent of all
: reported hate crimes (188 out of 7,624) were committed against Asian Pacific
: Americans, a ratio that has declined slightly relative to other groups over
: the past decade.
: This decline obscures an extremely disturbing fact: many of these hate
: crimes are perpetrated against Asian Pacific American children, often by

L**S
发帖数: 7833
13
又来了一只自恨的,被黑人杀,都是华人自己的毛病是吧?


【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 这正是我在前面一个帖子里说的,20年前很少听见黑人杀华人,抢劫倒是很多。现在为
: 什么变得不仅抢,要动辄杀人了?跟主流媒体的挑拨离间,跟华人自己的缺点难道就没
: 有关系?

f********4
发帖数: 2883
14
你算是把华人的思路摸清楚了,哈哈。

【在 f***r 的大作中提到】
: 你举的例子中被白人杀害的是亚裔,但不都是华人
: 我一个白人朋友告诉我,白人很恨日本人越南人,因为这两个国家都欺负过中国。
: 白人喜欢中国人,因为我们勤劳善良,白人是为我们出气才杀的那些亚裔,只是我们亚
: 洲人长得像,才会有个别华人被误杀。。。
:
: Pacific
: over

a******9
发帖数: 20431
15
我艹你可真是个奇葩
别人以前只是抢你的钱 现在抢你钱还不算 直接要你的命了 结果你开始反省华人自己
的缺点了?
这世界上还有比这更下贱的么?

【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 这正是我在前面一个帖子里说的,20年前很少听见黑人杀华人,抢劫倒是很多。现在为
: 什么变得不仅抢,要动辄杀人了?跟主流媒体的挑拨离间,跟华人自己的缺点难道就没
: 有关系?

g****5
发帖数: 1639
16
通货膨胀,物价飞涨。黑哥们打次劫的费用也上去了。
结论就是:兜里要多揣点cash,10年前的标准不够了。哈哈

【在 a******9 的大作中提到】
: 我艹你可真是个奇葩
: 别人以前只是抢你的钱 现在抢你钱还不算 直接要你的命了 结果你开始反省华人自己
: 的缺点了?
: 这世界上还有比这更下贱的么?

f********4
发帖数: 2883
17
远的不说了,那都是群体性屠杀,说80年以来的。
1982,陈果仁在底特律被两个白人打死。
1989,Jim Loo在北卡被两个白人用枪打死。
。。。
白人警察杀死的除了黄永新,台湾工程师玩扫把那个,曹线庆,还有一个有精神病的华
人,其家人叫警察帮忙,结果警察枪杀了他。
还有最近还有人提到的,一个白人同学枪杀了一个华女同学。
还有更多的是无头案,好像的确是喜欢白人的华女多。篮可儿,PHD女,等等。
我怀疑可能给做成无头案的不少。
e****i
发帖数: 393
18
看看这段话,是人话吗?难道原因不是黑皮越来越堕落暴戾吗?
“20年前很少听见黑人杀华人,抢劫倒是很多。现在为什么变得不仅抢,要动辄杀人了
?跟主流媒体的挑拨离间,跟华人自己的缺点难道就没有关系?”
早说过,LZ家绝对有黑皮直系亲属,可能数代黑皮同堂或共享。
f********4
发帖数: 2883
19
你的意思是,黑人在媒体上看到华人种族歧视他们,会不在乎?不愤恨?不泄愤?
我的黑人朋友告诉我,他们最恨华人种族歧视他们,因为他们认为是他们斗争来的民权
,华人自己从来不斗争却享受了他们的斗争成果,完了还种族歧视他们。说华人自己都
是少数民族还歧视。

【在 a******9 的大作中提到】
: 我艹你可真是个奇葩
: 别人以前只是抢你的钱 现在抢你钱还不算 直接要你的命了 结果你开始反省华人自己
: 的缺点了?
: 这世界上还有比这更下贱的么?

x*****u
发帖数: 6559
20

您住Oakland 么? 市长都是华人。

【在 w*******r 的大作中提到】
: Oakland本来就没几个华人,你要他们都被杀了?用一个城市来代表美国?呵呵
:
: two

g********x
发帖数: 7361
21
擦,你是外F女吧

【在 f***r 的大作中提到】
: 你举的例子中被白人杀害的是亚裔,但不都是华人
: 我一个白人朋友告诉我,白人很恨日本人越南人,因为这两个国家都欺负过中国。
: 白人喜欢中国人,因为我们勤劳善良,白人是为我们出气才杀的那些亚裔,只是我们亚
: 洲人长得像,才会有个别华人被误杀。。。
:
: Pacific
: over

M**2
发帖数: 811
22
太贱了,您。

【在 f***r 的大作中提到】
: 你举的例子中被白人杀害的是亚裔,但不都是华人
: 我一个白人朋友告诉我,白人很恨日本人越南人,因为这两个国家都欺负过中国。
: 白人喜欢中国人,因为我们勤劳善良,白人是为我们出气才杀的那些亚裔,只是我们亚
: 洲人长得像,才会有个别华人被误杀。。。
:
: Pacific
: over

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