s*******l
发帖数: 8210 | 1 太强奸知识和侮辱智商了。 这些都tmd的是什么样的傻逼五毛周小平啊！ |
s***l
发帖数: 2769 | |
P******0
发帖数: 9787 | 3 看在什么地方，基本上属实吧。
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 太强奸知识和侮辱智商了。 这些都tmd的是什么样的傻逼五毛周小平啊！
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s*******l
发帖数: 8210 | 4 别扯蛋了，美国很多地方盖房子的地还是租来的呢，时间一到你就得卷铺盖滚蛋呢！
对了，你见过美国哪里有从人家外面打拐弯井到人家里挖油的？
【在 s***l 的大作中提到】
: 不懂别瞎说。很多地方地下采矿权是另算的。
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s*******l
发帖数: 8210 | 5 属实个屁！你给我找个打洞拐弯到人家里挖油的例子出来！
【在 P******0 的大作中提到】
: 看在什么地方，基本上属实吧。
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s***l
发帖数: 2769 | 6 我住的是产油州，就是这样的。以前住的公寓外就有打油机。挖也不是在人家的院子里
。深入地下，住家看不见的。
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 别扯蛋了，美国很多地方盖房子的地还是租来的呢，时间一到你就得卷铺盖滚蛋呢！
: 对了，你见过美国哪里有从人家外面打拐弯井到人家里挖油的？
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s*******l
发帖数: 8210 | 7 别扯蛋了，油井能怪弯嘛？ 还看不见？ 看不见你怎么知道打到你家去了？
【在 s***l 的大作中提到】
: 我住的是产油州，就是这样的。以前住的公寓外就有打油机。挖也不是在人家的院子里
: 。深入地下，住家看不见的。
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s***l
发帖数: 2769 | 8 mineral rights vs land ownership
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineral_rights
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 别扯蛋了，油井能怪弯嘛？ 还看不见？ 看不见你怎么知道打到你家去了？
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m********s
发帖数: 55301 | 9 能。
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 别扯蛋了，油井能怪弯嘛？ 还看不见？ 看不见你怎么知道打到你家去了？
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m********s
发帖数: 55301 | 10 油田又不是只在地表面下3、4并且只有5、6米的层深。
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 别扯蛋了，油井能怪弯嘛？ 还看不见？ 看不见你怎么知道打到你家去了？
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s*******l
发帖数: 8210 | 11 这根本就不重要！ 这是周瑜打黄盖的问题。 前面告诉你了，美国很多地方还租地盖房
给你卖呢，租期到了，你就的混蛋，啥都没有了。
在美国你租的房子，也是你的家，付不起租金你也得混蛋。
mineral 那块地，你先买了就是你的，你可以在上面盖房子，盖了卖，卖时搞个 term
& condition， 让买房子的人签字，房子下面的油归你，卖的只是地上的房子。这有什
么问题？ 这个例，不能引伸为美国的地下资源都不归房主所有。
【在 s***l 的大作中提到】
: mineral rights vs land ownership
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineral_rights
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s***l
发帖数: 2769 | 12 这么说倒也有道理。反正地下资源确实不能全算是政府的。
term
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 这根本就不重要！ 这是周瑜打黄盖的问题。 前面告诉你了，美国很多地方还租地盖房
: 给你卖呢，租期到了，你就的混蛋，啥都没有了。
: 在美国你租的房子，也是你的家，付不起租金你也得混蛋。
: mineral 那块地，你先买了就是你的，你可以在上面盖房子，盖了卖，卖时搞个 term
: & condition， 让买房子的人签字，房子下面的油归你，卖的只是地上的房子。这有什
: 么问题？ 这个例，不能引伸为美国的地下资源都不归房主所有。
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s*******l
发帖数: 8210 | 13 能个毛！给我看看拐弯油进到人家后院挖油的例子了。
【在 m********s 的大作中提到】
: 能。
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A***W
发帖数: 419 | 14 狗一下fracking
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 能个毛！给我看看拐弯油进到人家后院挖油的例子了。
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t***e
发帖数: 3601 | 15 谁能解释一下鸽子为啥那么大?
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 能个毛！给我看看拐弯油进到人家后院挖油的例子了。
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m*******e
发帖数: 334 | 16 狗一下 directional drilling
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 别扯蛋了，油井能怪弯嘛？ 还看不见？ 看不见你怎么知道打到你家去了？
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y*******r
发帖数: 1862 | 17 Directional drilling
Instead of drilling straight down, the drilling is
slanted as it leaves the surface to
angle to a “bottom hole” location which is spaced a
part from the other wells in a relatively equidista
nt spot to maximize the oil extraction. Wells are ty
pically drilled to a depth several thousand feet (~7,000
ft) below the surface of the ground. When wells a
re drilled directionally, they can therefore be ang
led to access minerals in areas where the surface of th
e ground is already completely developed with
neighborhoods and businesses. When a surface land
owner doesn’t own the minerals under their tract
of land, they may negotiate a “Surface Use Agreemen
t” with the mineral owner to group the wells as
closely together as possible to cause minimal disru
ption to the surface development of the property.
This usually results in the surface owner compensat
ing the mineral owner for the extra costs involved
with directional drilling.
http://greeleygov.com/CommunityDevelopment/Documents/Planning/O
科罗拉多州相关信息 |
y*******r
发帖数: 1862 | 18 昨天就给他贴过相关链接了。
【在 m*******e 的大作中提到】
: 狗一下 directional drilling
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t***e
发帖数: 3601 | 19 谁能解释一下鸽子为啥那么大?
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 能个毛！给我看看拐弯油进到人家后院挖油的例子了。
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y*******r
发帖数: 1862 | 20 Compulsory Pooling:
sometimes called “forced pooling”, this is a right granted by the State
for an oil company to include adjacent tracts in its drilling
operation, regardless of whether the owners of the adjacent tracts wish to
be included or lease the minerals to the oil company. Because mineral rights
are considered superior to surface development rights the benefit to oil
and gas extraction “trumps” the other property rights.
http://greeleygov.com/CommunityDevelopment/Documents/Planning/O
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y*******r
发帖数: 1862 | 21 Home> ABC News
Property Owners Deprived of Mineral Rights
D U R A N G O, Colo., June 25
By Bill Redeker
The largest concentration of natural gas in North America — 40 trillion
cubic feet — is trapped in underground coal seams in the southwestern
United States.
It is also one of America's most scenic spots, so it has ignited a battle
between those who want the energy and those who want to live there.
La Plata County in Colorado is renown for its beauty, outdoor sports and
peaceful solitude, but that's all changing.
Since the price of natural gas doubled 18 months ago, oil and gas companies
are drilling as never before.
"We've seen a steady increase in the number of permits that have been
applied for and ultimately approved in the county, so we're seeing an
increase in drilling activity," says Adam Keller, a La Plata County planner.
Pump jacks are everywhere — even on private property. That's because
Colorado, like most western states, allows separate ownership of property on
the surface and the mineral rights below.
Property Owners Only Have Surface Rights
But in many cases, property owners are surprised to learn about the separate
ownership of mineral rights. They are also angry that no one told them
about the pump until it was too late.
Leo and Ann Epstein built their retirement home in La Plata County seven
years ago. Recently, while they were out of town, a noisy compressor plant (
part of the pump) was installed next door.
"We love our home," says Leo. "We have wonderful neighbors on [one] side.
This side is whole different story," he says pointing to the plant.
And David and Pati Temple, who own a tree farm, installed an expensive
filtration system because they say their ground water was being polluted.
"The methane contamination of our water has created an anorbic state," said
David Temple. "We have now four different bacterias that are living in the
water and we have to kill them and clean up the mess they make so our water
is potable."
Industry: Know What's Below Before You Buy
Drilling companies, which own or lease mineral rights, have been extracting
natural gas here for 50 years. But now that business is booming, they say it
's up to property owners to make sure they are not sitting on top of a
natural gas deposit.
"They need to recognize the rights that they have when they buy their
property because natural gas is being developed here and it's important to
our economy," says industry spokesperson Gail Aalund.
"It's just the antithesis of what we came out here for," explains Leo. There
are "lots and lots of trucks, day and night," concurs his wife, Ann.
"Certainly it's a mixed bag for the county," says Keller, referring to the
fact 45 percent of the county tax base is from natural gas. "There [are]
some good economic resources we get from it, based on taxes, but it's also a
place where people live and residences get impacted by the drilling."
In last decade, new residents have been attracted to La Plata County because
of the promise of peace and quiet. But with the recent approval of more
than 600 new drilling sites, more homeowners are about to discover a pump
jack, storage tank, or compressor in their back yard.
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=130904
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还有这篇科罗拉多州相关新闻的最后一句话。
楼主非得说现屋主后院的井是采矿公司早就挖好废存的，现屋主买房前就已经存在的。
那现屋主买房时可真够瞎的，后院里的”pumpjack, storage tank, or compressor“
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s*******l
发帖数: 8210 | 22 亏你还能认识几个英文！ 不过你脑子不够用。 你知道油公司怎么封存油井和做好的地
下储油tank嘛？ 就象你家里的化粪池一样， 你见过嘛？
另外，人家也没有说那片地上的人家里家家都有那样的东西，你怎么一根筋的在较劲瞎
理解。好好读读人家那篇新闻是怎么说的吧。
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=130904
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【在 y*******r 的大作中提到】
: Home> ABC News
: Property Owners Deprived of Mineral Rights
: D U R A N G O, Colo., June 25
: By Bill Redeker
: The largest concentration of natural gas in North America — 40 trillion
: cubic feet — is trapped in underground coal seams in the southwestern
: United States.
: It is also one of America's most scenic spots, so it has ignited a battle
: between those who want the energy and those who want to live there.
: La Plata County in Colorado is renown for its beauty, outdoor sports and
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X***P
发帖数: 3230 | 23 傻逼老将无知到什么程度了。美国大部分州land ownership和mineral ownership是分
开的，而且land owner必须为mineral owner开采地下资源提供便利。如果因为采油需
要必须要在你家后院挖打井你都必须得在合理市价补偿的情况下让人家挖，跟不用说在
地下horizontal drilling了。
我是业内人士，stillwell/aprilfool/老大爷 有问题尽管问。
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 太强奸知识和侮辱智商了。 这些都tmd的是什么样的傻逼五毛周小平啊！
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s*******l
发帖数: 8210 | 24 你是个球业内人士! 你是个装逼的周小平而已！ 还美国大部分州land ownership和
mineral ownership是分开的？ 少瞎扯jb蛋， 把你说的美国大部分州的 property law
分别列出来，我和你认真！
不信你个五毛不显原型。
【在 X***P 的大作中提到】
: 傻逼老将无知到什么程度了。美国大部分州land ownership和mineral ownership是分
: 开的，而且land owner必须为mineral owner开采地下资源提供便利。如果因为采油需
: 要必须要在你家后院挖打井你都必须得在合理市价补偿的情况下让人家挖，跟不用说在
: 地下horizontal drilling了。
: 我是业内人士，stillwell/aprilfool/老大爷 有问题尽管问。
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X***P
发帖数: 3230 | 25 你压五万美元在escrow里面，我马上给你列出来，然后我要是对的钱就归我。不然，我
花时间整理出来，你个没脸没皮的尿遁了，你当我小孩子啊被你骗。
law
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 你是个球业内人士! 你是个装逼的周小平而已！ 还美国大部分州land ownership和
: mineral ownership是分开的？ 少瞎扯jb蛋， 把你说的美国大部分州的 property law
: 分别列出来，我和你认真！
: 不信你个五毛不显原型。
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s*******l
发帖数: 8210 | 26 看，这不连逼都装不下去了嘛！ 还业内人士？ 看来你是逼痒了。 还一副装逼样子
有你？ 你懂个球。 给你5万美元放到escrow你tmd也拿不去！
【在 X***P 的大作中提到】
: 你压五万美元在escrow里面，我马上给你列出来，然后我要是对的钱就归我。不然，我
: 花时间整理出来，你个没脸没皮的尿遁了，你当我小孩子啊被你骗。
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: law
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y****g
发帖数: 36950 | 27 科威特抽伊拉克的油。
这个需要拐弯吗？你个弱智。油层面积可能涵盖整个小镇。
不过我也帮楼主问一句，我知道你说的原理，可是鸽子为啥那么大。哈哈哈哈
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 能个毛！给我看看拐弯油进到人家后院挖油的例子了。
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b***y
发帖数: 14281 | 28 这智商小学怎么毕业的，油井又不用拐弯，旁边打一孔，只要油层相通，油自己就流过
去了。
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.2.2
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 太强奸知识和侮辱智商了。 这些都tmd的是什么样的傻逼五毛周小平啊！
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n****o
发帖数: 950 | 29 开喷前不能先google下吗？
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 别扯蛋了，油井能怪弯嘛？ 还看不见？ 看不见你怎么知道打到你家去了？
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r********n
发帖数: 7441 | 30 当然可以了，为此专门开发了 3D directional drilling 的技术，在地下可以水平拐
个弯开挖几个mile都有
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 太强奸知识和侮辱智商了。 这些都tmd的是什么样的傻逼五毛周小平啊！
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x******h
发帖数: 838 | 31 xiaop还是给列出来嘛，就当学术版讨论问题，别钱不钱的，丢份。
【在 X***P 的大作中提到】
: 你压五万美元在escrow里面，我马上给你列出来，然后我要是对的钱就归我。不然，我
: 花时间整理出来，你个没脸没皮的尿遁了，你当我小孩子啊被你骗。
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: law
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