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t*****k
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Oil at $40 Possible as Market Transforms Caracas to Iran
Bloomberg By Gregory Viscusi, Tara Patel and Simon Kennedy
2 hours ago
Oil's decline is proving to be the worst since the collapse of the financial
system in 2008 and threatening to have the same global impact of falling
prices three decades ago that led to the Mexican debt crisis and the end of
the Soviet Union.
Russia, the world's largest producer, can no longer rely on the same oil
revenues to rescue an economy suffering from European and U.S. sanctions.
Iran, also reeling from similar sanctions, will need to reduce subsidies
that have partly insulated its growing population. Nigeria, fighting an
Islamic insurgency, and Venezuela, crippled by failing political and
economic policies, also rank among the biggest losers from the decision by
the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries last week to let the force
of the market determine what some experts say will be the first free-fall
in decades.
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"This is a big shock in Caracas, it's a shock in Tehran, it's a shock in
Abuja," Daniel Yergin, vice chairman of Englewood, Colorado-based consultant
IHS Inc. and author of a Pulitzer Prize-winning history of oil, told
Bloomberg Radio. "There's a change in psychology. There's going to be a
higher degree of uncertainty."
A world already unsettled by Russian-inspired insurrection in Ukraine to the
onslaught of Islamic State in the Middle East is about be roiled further as
crude prices plunge. Global energy markets have been upended by an
unprecedented North American oil boom brought on by hydraulic fracturing,
the process of blasting shale rocks to release oil and gas.
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Cheap Gasoline
Few expected the extent or speed of the U.S. oil resurgence. As wildcatters
unlocked new energy supplies, some oil exporters abroad failed to invest in
diversifying their economies. Coddled by years of $100 crude, governments
instead spent that windfall subsidizing everything from 5 cents-per-gallon
gasoline to cheap housing that kept a growing population of underemployed
citizens content.
Those handouts are now at risk.
More from Bloomberg.com: Oil at $40 Possible as Market Transforms Caracas to
Iran
"If the governments aren't able to spend to keep the kids off the streets
they will go back to the streets, and we could start to see political
disruption and upheaval," said Paul Stevens, distinguished fellow for energy
, environment and resources at Chatham House in London, a U.K. policy group.
"The majority of members of OPEC need well over $100 a barrel to balance
their budgets. If they start cutting expenditure, this is likely to cause
problems."
Costs as Benchmark
Oil has dropped 37 percent this year and, in theory, production can continue
to flow until prices fall below the day-to-day costs at existing wells.
Stevens said some U.S. shale producers may break even at $40 a barrel or
less. The International Energy Agency estimates most drilling in the Bakken
formation -- the shale producers that OPEC seeks to drive out of business --
return cash at $42 a barrel.
"Right now we're seeing a price shock coming out of the meeting and it will
be a couple of weeks until we see where the price really falls," said Yergin
. Officials "have to figure out where the new price range is, and that's the
drama that's going to play out in the weeks ahead."
Brent crude finished last week around $70, and New York oil near $66. Brent
is now at its lowest since the financial crisis -- when it bottomed around $
36.
Not All Suffer
To be sure, not all oil producers are suffering. The International Monetary
Fund in October assessed the oil price different governments needed to
balance their budgets. At one end were Kuwait, Qatar and the United Arab
Emirates, which can break even with oil at about $70 a barrel. At the other
extreme: Iran needs $136, and Venezuela and Nigeria $120. Russia can manage
at $101 a barrel, the IMF said.
"Saudi Arabia, U.A.E. and Qatar can live with relatively lower oil prices
for a while, but this isn't the case for Iran, Iraq, Nigeria, Venezuela,
Algeria and Angola," said Marie-Claire Aoun, director of the energy center
at the French Institute for International Relations in Paris. "Strong
demographic pressure is feeding their energy and budgetary requirements. The
price of crude is paramount for their economies because they have failed to
diversify."
Brent crude is poised for the biggest annual decline since 2008 after OPEC
last week rejected calls for production cuts that would address a global
glut.
Like this year's decline, oil's crash in the 1980s was brought on by a Saudi
-led decision to defend its market share, sending crude to about $12 a
barrel.
Russia Vulnerable
"Russia in particular seems vulnerable," said Allan von Mehren, chief
analyst at Danske Banke A/S in Copenhagen. "A big decline in the oil price
in 1997-98 was one factor causing pressure that eventually led to Russian
default in August 1998."
VTB Group, Russia's second-largest bank, OAO Gazprombank, its third-largest
lender, and Russian Agricultural Bank are already seeking government aid to
replenish capital after sanctions cut them off from international financial
markets. Now with sputtering economic growth, they also face a rise in bad
loans.
Oil and gas provide 68 percent of Russia's exports and 50 percent of its
federal budget. Russia has already lost almost $90 billion of its currency
reserves this year, equal to 4.5 percent of its economy, as it tried to
prevent the ruble from tumbling after Western countries imposed sanctions to
punish Russian meddling in Ukraine. The ruble is down 31 percent against
the dollar since June.
This Will Pass
While the country's economy minister and some oil executives have warned of
tough times ahead, President Vladimir Putin is sanguine, suggesting falling
oil won't force him to meet Western demands that he curb his country's
interference in Ukraine.
"Winter is coming and I am sure the market will come into balance again in
the first quarter or toward the middle of next year," he said Nov. 28 in
Sochi.
Even before the price tumble, Iran's oil exports were already crumbling
because of sanctions imposed over its nuclear program. Production is at a 20
-year low, exports have fallen by half since early 2012 to 1 million barrels
a day, and the rial has plummeted 80 percent on the black market, says the
IMF.
Lower oil may increase the pain on Iran's population, though it may be
insufficient to push its leaders to accept an end to the nuclear program,
which they insist is peaceful.
‘Already Losing'
"The oil price decline is not a game changer for Iran," said Suzanne Maloney
, senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, a Washington-based research
organization, who specializes on Iran. "The Iranians were already losing so
many billions of dollars because of the sanctions that the oil price decline
is just icing on the cake."
While oil's decline wrenches oil-rich nations that squandered the profits
from recent high prices, the world economy overall may benefit. The
Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development estimates a $20 drop
in price adds 0.4 percentage point to growth of its members after two years.
By knocking down inflation by 0.5 point over the same period, cheaper oil
could also persuade central banks to either keep interest rates low or even
add stimulus.
Energy accounts for 10 percent to 12 percent of consumer spending in
European countries such as France and Germany, HSBC Holdings Plc said.
Nigerian Woes
As developed oil-importing nations benefit, some of the world's poorest
suffer. Nigeria's authorities, which rely on oil for 75 percent of
government revenue, have tightened monetary policy, devalued the naira and
plan to cut public spending by 6 percent next year. Oil and gas account for
35 percent of Nigeria's economic output and 90 percent of its exports,
according to OPEC.
"The current drop in oil prices poses stark challenges for Nigeria's
external and fiscal accounts and puts heavy pressure on the exchange rate,"
Oliver Masetti, an economist at Deutsche Bank AG, said in a report this
month. "If oil prices remain at their current lows, Nigeria will face tough
choices."
Even before oil's rout, Venezuela was teetering.
The nation is running a budget deficit of 16 percent of gross domestic
product, partly because much of its declining oil production is sold
domestically at subsidized prices. Oil is 95 percent of exports and 25
percent of GDP, OPEC says.
"Venezuela already qualifies for fiscal chaos," Yergin said.
Venezuelan Rioting
The country was paralyzed by deadly riots earlier this year after police
repressed protests about spiraling inflation, shortages of consumer goods
and worsening crime.
"The dire state of the economy is likely to trigger renewed social unrest,
while it seems that the government is running out of hard currency," Capital
Economics, a London research firm, wrote in a Nov. 28 report.
Declining oil may force the government to take steps to avoid a default
including devaluing the currency, cutting imports, raising domestic energy
prices and cutting subsidies shipments to poorer countries in the region,
according to Francisco Rodriguez, an economist at Bank of America Merrill
Lynch.
"Though all these entail difficult choices, default is not an appealing
alternative," he said. "Were Venezuela to default, bondholders would almost
surely move to attach the country's refineries and oil shipments abroad."
China Bailout?
In an address on state television Nov. 28, President Nicolas Maduro said
Venezuela would maintain social spending while pledging to form a commission
to identify unnecessary spending to cut. He also said he was sending the
economy minister to China to discuss development projects.
Mexico shows how an oil nation can build new industries and avoid relying on
one commodity. Falling crude demand and prices in the early 1980s helped
send the nation into a debt crisis.
Oil's share of Mexico's exports fell to 13 percent in 2013 from 38 percent
in 1990, even as total exports more than quadrupled. Electronics and cars
now account for a greater share of the country's shipments. Though oil still
accounts for 32 percent of government revenue, the Mexican government has
based its 2015 budget on an average price of $79 a barrel.
b********n
发帖数: 38600
2
i smell the blood
c***u
发帖数: 4107
3
如果40一桶, 大约到市场以后, 应该是多少钱一加仑?
C***J
发帖数: 7594
4
who cares.
T*****u
发帖数: 7103
5
要开战了吗
a******o
发帖数: 16625
6
2.00.

【在 c***u 的大作中提到】
: 如果40一桶, 大约到市场以后, 应该是多少钱一加仑?
l********o
发帖数: 5629
7
早就该这样了,麻痹的挖煤挖油的,就应该这样。
x*f
发帖数: 902
8
不是特别久的以前就是$40一桶。
d****o
发帖数: 32610
9


financial
of

【在 t*****k 的大作中提到】
: Oil at $40 Possible as Market Transforms Caracas to Iran
: Bloomberg By Gregory Viscusi, Tara Patel and Simon Kennedy
: 2 hours ago
: Oil's decline is proving to be the worst since the collapse of the financial
: system in 2008 and threatening to have the same global impact of falling
: prices three decades ago that led to the Mexican debt crisis and the end of
: the Soviet Union.
: Russia, the world's largest producer, can no longer rely on the same oil
: revenues to rescue an economy suffering from European and U.S. sanctions.
: Iran, also reeling from similar sanctions, will need to reduce subsidies

j***g
发帖数: 11325
10
08年12月降到过35美元一桶。当时我们这儿的油价是1.99

【在 c***u 的大作中提到】
: 如果40一桶, 大约到市场以后, 应该是多少钱一加仑?
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a*******g
发帖数: 1221
11
为啥这么低,经济回冷,经济恢复无力?
l********o
发帖数: 5629
12
油工完蛋了。
K********y
发帖数: 5068
13
油价低, 才会大力促进其他各个行业发展 和经济复苏, 这多明了的事实啊

【在 a*******g 的大作中提到】
: 为啥这么低,经济回冷,经济恢复无力?
a****i
发帖数: 4783
14
我能在后院挖个洞把油存在里面今后慢慢用么?

【在 t*****k 的大作中提到】
: Oil at $40 Possible as Market Transforms Caracas to Iran
: Bloomberg By Gregory Viscusi, Tara Patel and Simon Kennedy
: 2 hours ago
: Oil's decline is proving to be the worst since the collapse of the financial
: system in 2008 and threatening to have the same global impact of falling
: prices three decades ago that led to the Mexican debt crisis and the end of
: the Soviet Union.
: Russia, the world's largest producer, can no longer rely on the same oil
: revenues to rescue an economy suffering from European and U.S. sanctions.
: Iran, also reeling from similar sanctions, will need to reduce subsidies

T*U
发帖数: 22634
15
1.8

【在 c***u 的大作中提到】
: 如果40一桶, 大约到市场以后, 应该是多少钱一加仑?
n***c
发帖数: 7400
16
老夫正有此意。我打算买个加油站那种储油槽回来

【在 a****i 的大作中提到】
: 我能在后院挖个洞把油存在里面今后慢慢用么?
s********s
发帖数: 579
17
彪悍啊,万一着火了,就全完了。

【在 n***c 的大作中提到】
: 老夫正有此意。我打算买个加油站那种储油槽回来
u*******g
发帖数: 3300
18
$40是俄罗斯石油的成本,这样就好理解了

financial
of

【在 t*****k 的大作中提到】
: Oil at $40 Possible as Market Transforms Caracas to Iran
: Bloomberg By Gregory Viscusi, Tara Patel and Simon Kennedy
: 2 hours ago
: Oil's decline is proving to be the worst since the collapse of the financial
: system in 2008 and threatening to have the same global impact of falling
: prices three decades ago that led to the Mexican debt crisis and the end of
: the Soviet Union.
: Russia, the world's largest producer, can no longer rely on the same oil
: revenues to rescue an economy suffering from European and U.S. sanctions.
: Iran, also reeling from similar sanctions, will need to reduce subsidies

w***u
发帖数: 17713
19
buy long leaps?
b***y
发帖数: 14281
20
蠢人到处有啊,你买两手原油期货不就行了,用得着这么费劲吗?

★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 1.0.1

【在 a****i 的大作中提到】
: 我能在后院挖个洞把油存在里面今后慢慢用么?
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g***t
发帖数: 7544
21
没用。成品油,尤其是汽油,保存期也就三四个月。另外,冬季汽油与夏季汽油的组份
还不一样。

【在 n***c 的大作中提到】
: 老夫正有此意。我打算买个加油站那种储油槽回来
a****i
发帖数: 4783
22
怎么总有蠢人觉得别人蠢呢?期货的contango会弄死你。只有费劲自己挖洞,才能把钱
掌握在自己手里。

【在 b***y 的大作中提到】
: 蠢人到处有啊,你买两手原油期货不就行了,用得着这么费劲吗?
:
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 1.0.1

l****p
发帖数: 27354
23
汽油属于危险品,量大肯定得需要政府批准,也就是说,政府不会批准。

【在 a****i 的大作中提到】
: 怎么总有蠢人觉得别人蠢呢?期货的contango会弄死你。只有费劲自己挖洞,才能把钱
: 掌握在自己手里。

a****i
发帖数: 4783
24
不是的,汽油变坏有三个原理,挥发,氧化,吸水。所以如果你制造一个完全密闭的容
器,那么汽油其实可以无限期放下去。

【在 g***t 的大作中提到】
: 没用。成品油,尤其是汽油,保存期也就三四个月。另外,冬季汽油与夏季汽油的组份
: 还不一样。

a****i
发帖数: 4783
25
汽油再危险,感觉应该也不如propane tank危险,当然政府为了损人,可能还是不会批准

【在 l****p 的大作中提到】
: 汽油属于危险品,量大肯定得需要政府批准,也就是说,政府不会批准。
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