l*****7
发帖数: 8463 | 1 世界上有比美国言论更自由的国家吗？
Petraeus sentenced to 2 years' probation for military leak
The Associated PressMitch WeissApr 23rd 2015 4:12PM
CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) -- Former CIA Director David Petraeus, whose career was
destroyed by an extramarital affair with his biographer, was sentenced
Thursday to two years' probation and fined $100,000 for giving her
classified material while she was working on the book.
The sentencing came two months after he agreed to plead guilty to a federal
misdemeanor count of unauthorized removal and retention of classified
material.
The plea agreement carried a possible sentence of up to a year in prison. In
court papers, prosecutors recommended two years' probation and a $40,000
fine. But Judge David Keesler increased the fine to "reflect seriousness of
the offense." He said Petraeus committed a "grave and uncharacteristic error
in judgment."
Appearing calm and wearing a business suit, Petraeus made a brief statement
before he was sentenced, apologizing "for the pain my actions have caused."
Petraeus attorney Jake Sussman said this was not a case about the public
dissemination of classified information, but the wrongful removal of
materials.
But prosecutor James Melindres said, "This is a serious criminal offense. He
was entrusted with the nation's most classified secrets. The defendant
betrayed that trust." Melindres says Petraeus compounded that trust by lying
to the FBI.
In a brief statement after the hearing, Petraeus said this marks the end of
a two-and-a-half year ordeal, and he just wants to move on.
"I now look forward to moving on to the next phase of my life," he said,
before walking to a waiting car and leaving. |
l****5
发帖数: 5865 | 2 反正中国不行，根本就没有言论自由，连人身自由都快没有了 |
n***c
发帖数: 7400 | 3 全世界台湾地区最自由，每天报纸电视铺天盖地的批政党，而且是往死里骂，比美国自
由100倍，完全没有新闻审查这回事。议会里意见不合，直接打架。 |
l*****7
发帖数: 8463 | 4 By Theodore Schleifer, CNN
Updated 5:13 PM ET, Thu April 23, 2015
Washington (CNN)Gen. David Petraeus, once a widely celebrated military
leader who oversaw operations in Afghanistan and Iraq and was touted as a
potential presidential candidate, was sentenced to serve two years on
probation and to pay an $100,000 fine on Thursday for sharing classified
information with his biographer and lover, Paula Broadwell.
"Today marks the end of a two-and-a-half-year ordeal," Petraeus said outside
the Charlotte federal courthouse following his sentencing. "I now look
forward to moving on with the next phase of my life."
Petraeus, who resigned as director of the Central Intelligence Agency in
November 2012 after the relationship became public, avoided jail time as
part of a plea deal. Prosecutors agreed to not send Petraeus to jail because
the classified information was never released to the public or published in
the biography of him that Broadwell wrote. |
z*****l
发帖数: 3472 | 5 至少比中国自由。在中国，不能随便谈论种族、宗教，不能攻击黑人，美国随便说。 |
m********5
发帖数: 17667 | 6 至少比中国大陆自由吧
在美国至少不用政治正确
如果在私下攻击了领导人也不会被公司开除
喝醉了骂几句同性恋也不会被围攻得活不下去
was
federal
【在 l*****7 的大作中提到】
: 世界上有比美国言论更自由的国家吗？
: Petraeus sentenced to 2 years' probation for military leak
: The Associated PressMitch WeissApr 23rd 2015 4:12PM
: CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) -- Former CIA Director David Petraeus, whose career was
: destroyed by an extramarital affair with his biographer, was sentenced
: Thursday to two years' probation and fined $100,000 for giving her
: classified material while she was working on the book.
: The sentencing came two months after he agreed to plead guilty to a federal
: misdemeanor count of unauthorized removal and retention of classified
: material.
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C*****y
发帖数: 62 | 7 共产党开办的中央电视台，人民日报等在美国自由发行，中国人可以在美国的mitbbs上
自由评论诋毁美国的领导人和各种制度，美国也没有亡党亡国。
共产党有这个自信吗，也没有这个生命力。
was
federal
【在 l*****7 的大作中提到】
: 世界上有比美国言论更自由的国家吗？
: Petraeus sentenced to 2 years' probation for military leak
: The Associated PressMitch WeissApr 23rd 2015 4:12PM
: CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) -- Former CIA Director David Petraeus, whose career was
: destroyed by an extramarital affair with his biographer, was sentenced
: Thursday to two years' probation and fined $100,000 for giving her
: classified material while she was working on the book.
: The sentencing came two months after he agreed to plead guilty to a federal
: misdemeanor count of unauthorized removal and retention of classified
: material.
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N*******e
发帖数: 3872 | 8 你说的这几个媒体在美国连边缘媒体都算不上
这里的言论如果直接翻译过去到主流媒体上发表，你看看多少人要坐牢甚至丧命？
美帝操控舆论不是靠简单的压制，而是用各种方法把不符合主流意识形态的言论边缘化
你可以说，但是没人听也没人信
这就是言论自由的另一面，你必须有能力去享受你的权利，那才是你真正拥有的权利。
【在 C*****y 的大作中提到】
: 共产党开办的中央电视台，人民日报等在美国自由发行，中国人可以在美国的mitbbs上
: 自由评论诋毁美国的领导人和各种制度，美国也没有亡党亡国。
: 共产党有这个自信吗，也没有这个生命力。
:
: was
: federal
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N*******e
发帖数: 3872 | 9 哪里真正没有“政治正确性”这回事？
把可以随便骂政治领导人当成拥有自由的标志，你幼稚的可笑
【在 m********5 的大作中提到】
: 至少比中国大陆自由吧
: 在美国至少不用政治正确
: 如果在私下攻击了领导人也不会被公司开除
: 喝醉了骂几句同性恋也不会被围攻得活不下去
:
: was
: federal
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z*****l
发帖数: 3472 | 10 美国就没有！可以随便骂总统、政府！
【在 N*******e 的大作中提到】
: 哪里真正没有“政治正确性”这回事？
: 把可以随便骂政治领导人当成拥有自由的标志，你幼稚的可笑
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w****r
发帖数: 15252 | 11 你试着去大街上喊黑人犯罪率最高，极端分子都在穆斯林
看看你自由不自由
【在 z*****l 的大作中提到】
: 美国就没有！可以随便骂总统、政府！
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z*****l
发帖数: 3472 | 12 当然自由。只有中国这种专制国家才掩盖真相。
【在 w****r 的大作中提到】
: 你试着去大街上喊黑人犯罪率最高，极端分子都在穆斯林
: 看看你自由不自由
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w****r
发帖数: 15252 | 13 赶紧去，去华盛顿首都去喊去，别光说不练，人家不揍你出屎
【在 z*****l 的大作中提到】
: 当然自由。只有中国这种专制国家才掩盖真相。
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C*****y
发帖数: 62 | 14 这正说明了说假话的媒体在自有社会里是没有市场的。
中国如果放开媒体自由，中央电视台、人民日报这样没有信誉的媒体同样也没有人听、
没有人信，被中国人自己抛弃，和美国不美国没有关系。
坐牢丧命的是你的臆想，你以为美国是中国？
【在 N*******e 的大作中提到】
: 你说的这几个媒体在美国连边缘媒体都算不上
: 这里的言论如果直接翻译过去到主流媒体上发表，你看看多少人要坐牢甚至丧命？
: 美帝操控舆论不是靠简单的压制，而是用各种方法把不符合主流意识形态的言论边缘化
: 你可以说，但是没人听也没人信
: 这就是言论自由的另一面，你必须有能力去享受你的权利，那才是你真正拥有的权利。
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l*****7
发帖数: 8463 | 15 哈哈哈哈
各种各样多如牛毛的法律条款会限制你的自由。 |
o***e
发帖数: 490 | 16 是啊，在美国，你要用搜索引擎搜个领导人（包括以退休领导人）的名字，搜索内容都
有被限制的。在中国随便搜。
【在 z*****l 的大作中提到】
: 至少比中国自由。在中国，不能随便谈论种族、宗教，不能攻击黑人，美国随便说。
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d********1
发帖数: 8969 | |
