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s******r
发帖数: 5309
1
Ammon Bundy breaks with Trump on anti-migrant rhetoric: ‘It’s all fear-
based’
By Kyle Swenson November 28 at 5:05 AM
The images beaming out of the U.S.-Mexico border — migrants storming
barricades, children gagging on tear gas — have intensified the debate
regarding the Trump administration’s bare-knuckled approach to immigration.
On Tuesday night, an unlikely critic took President Trump to task for his
comments portraying members of the migrant caravan now massed in Tijuana as
“criminals” and “gang members.” In a video posted on Facebook, Ammon
Bundy, the anti-government militia leader, pushed back against Trump’s
heated rhetoric.
“He has basically called them all criminals and said they’re not coming in
here. It seems that there’s been this group stereotype,” Bundy said in a
17-minute clip. “But what about those who have come here for reasons of
need? . . . What about the fathers, the mothers, the children,
who have come here and are willing to go through the process to apply for
asylum so they can come into this country and benefit from not having to be
oppressed continually by criminals?"
Along with his father, Cliven, and brother, Ryan, Bundy became an ascendant
figure on the right after a long-standing land dispute with federal
authorities sparked an armed standoff at the family ranch in Nevada in 2014.
Since then, the Bundys have regularly clashed with the government both
inside and outside the courtroom, making them figureheads of the anti-
Washington energy that also propelled Trump to the White House.
But Bundy’s message Tuesday may be another sign that Trump’s border policy
is isolating him from many who are usually fully tuned in to his messaging.
“It’s all fear-based, and frankly it’s based upon selfishness — ‘I’m
going to lose something by them coming in,’ ” Bundy said of the anti-
migrant rhetoric. “I think that’s incorrect. But also to base your
arguments or your motives or your actions upon fear is a very dangerous
thing to do.”
There is an explicit overlap between the land battles fought by Bundy and
his followers and Trump.
In January 2016, Bundy and other militia members rallied around Dwight and
Steven Hammond, a father and son who were jailed by federal authorities on
arson charges stemming from a dispute over their Oregon ranch. In response,
Bundy and his group led a 41-day occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife
Refuge. The standoff came to a head when Robert “LaVoy” Finicum was
killed by law enforcement at the refuge on Jan. 26, 2016. Bundy was later
acquitted by a jury for his role in the occupation.
Bundy supporters celebrate acquittal
Supporters of the armed occupation of Oregon’s Malheur National Wildlife
Refuge took to the streets of Portland to celebrate the acquittal of seven
occupiers. (Instagram/the_mother_hempin_truth via Storyful)
The Hammonds, however, were pardoned by Trump in July 2018. The president’s
actions were seen by supporters as a corrective to the government overreach
of the Obama administration. Bundy’s brother Ryan was a recent independent
candidate in Nevada’s 2018 gubernatorial race. He secured 1.4 percent of
the vote.
In his video Tuesday night, Ammon Bundy said he attempted to do his own
research on the border to separate fact from fiction.
“I tried to go outside of the media, both in this case the media from the
conservative side and the media from the liberal side because I do not
believe either one of them are telling the truth,” he said. “On the
liberal side, you have, ‘Oh, we’ve got to let them in.’ . . . Then, you
have the conservative side of it that has it they’re here because they’ve
been sent by the U.N. or they’re being paid by George Soros, they’re a
bunch of terrorists. I have found that is a bunch of garbage, too.”
Bundy acknowledged that among the “thousands” of migrants in the caravan,
there are some that will “act like criminals.” But he argued the majority
of the people are fleeing violence in countries like Honduras. “Then, they
come to the border, and they have a right — a legal right — to apply to
come into this country,” he argued. “Each one of them should be considered
individually.”
The anchor behind Bundy’s feelings about the border stem from what he calls
the responsibility of Americans in this “Christian nation.” The Bundy
family’s personal brand of Mormonism mingles the faith with an
individualistic interpretation of the U.S. Constitution, a fusing of church
and state that, they claim, justifies their battles against the federal
government.
“I have been frankly surprised, disappointed and even at times disgusted [
by] the amount of people who profess to be Christians but will not truly
adhere to what Christ said,” he said.
Bundy also said his past comments in favor of the migrants had triggered
negative feedback, “negative to the point where several people wished me
dead,” he explained. But he remained steadfast in his opinion.
“These are people, the majority of them need help,” Bundy said. “There is
a possibility of danger with some of them, they need to be vetted. And then
they need to be brought in here and added to this great, wonderful country.
Y***i
发帖数: 1932
2
和疮破一比,Bundy都不是lacist了
LOL
MAGA!
k**********4
发帖数: 16092
3
你瞧你内傻脸,够十五个人看半个月的

immigration.
as

【在 s******r 的大作中提到】
: Ammon Bundy breaks with Trump on anti-migrant rhetoric: ‘It’s all fear-
: based’
: By Kyle Swenson November 28 at 5:05 AM
: The images beaming out of the U.S.-Mexico border — migrants storming
: barricades, children gagging on tear gas — have intensified the debate
: regarding the Trump administration’s bare-knuckled approach to immigration.
: On Tuesday night, an unlikely critic took President Trump to task for his
: comments portraying members of the migrant caravan now massed in Tijuana as
: “criminals” and “gang members.” In a video posted on Facebook, Ammon
: Bundy, the anti-government militia leader, pushed back against Trump’s

r**********n
发帖数: 5281
4
黄疮粉还敢上街吗?

【在 k**********4 的大作中提到】
: 你瞧你内傻脸,够十五个人看半个月的
:
: immigration.
: as

Y***i
发帖数: 1932
5
尤其是住在加州的蝗疮,活得真是个窝囊

【在 r**********n 的大作中提到】
: 黄疮粉还敢上街吗?
r**********n
发帖数: 5281
6
黄疮都不敢让自己孩子知道,怕被瞧不起。

【在 Y***i 的大作中提到】
: 尤其是住在加州的蝗疮,活得真是个窝囊
s******r
发帖数: 5309
7
红脖忘拿逼照镜子看50年也没看白,真是可惜。

【在 k**********4 的大作中提到】
: 你瞧你内傻脸,够十五个人看半个月的
:
: immigration.
: as

j*****v
发帖数: 7717
8
Bundy一家本来就是反政府的,左婢白high一场
P**T
发帖数: 2274
9
大多数洪波只想关起门来过小日子,而一部分洪波是受了欧式纳粹思想,要和土共决一
死战,哪怕伤亡再大也要咬紧牙关打下去,因为认为土共带领的黄人是白人世界最大的
威胁
P**T
发帖数: 2274
10
信奉libertarianism的洪波还是相对理性的

【在 Y***i 的大作中提到】
: 和疮破一比,Bundy都不是lacist了
: LOL
: MAGA!

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