S*********i
发帖数: 8614 | 1 据新华社电东区老大凯尔特人队继续增强阵容，用帕金斯换来了雷霆队的格林和克斯蒂
奇两员大将。至此，凯尔特人队在篮下囤积了加内特、奥尼尔、小奥尼尔、克斯蒂奇、
格伦·戴维斯等众多好手，再加上能够打大前锋和小前锋位置的格林，“绿衫军”的内
线配置可谓豪华。 | J********i
发帖数: 50662 | 2 呵呵。。。看上去豪华。。。大奥小奥都健康的话。。。无敌内线
据新华社电东区老大凯尔特人队继续增强阵容，用帕金斯换来了雷霆队的格林和克斯蒂
奇两员大将。至此，凯尔特人队在篮下囤积了加内特、奥尼尔、小奥尼尔、克斯蒂奇、
格伦·戴维斯等众多好手，再加上能够打大前锋和小前锋位置的格林，“绿衫军”的内
线配置可谓豪华。
【在 S*********i 的大作中提到】
: 据新华社电东区老大凯尔特人队继续增强阵容，用帕金斯换来了雷霆队的格林和克斯蒂
: 奇两员大将。至此，凯尔特人队在篮下囤积了加内特、奥尼尔、小奥尼尔、克斯蒂奇、
: 格伦·戴维斯等众多好手，再加上能够打大前锋和小前锋位置的格林，“绿衫军”的内
: 线配置可谓豪华。
| S*********i
发帖数: 8614 | 3 看新闻说，原来，绿人的哥几个对交易走了帕金斯很不满，都是看着帕金斯成长的，所
以昨晚带着情绪打球，输了。
【在 J********i 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵。。。看上去豪华。。。大奥小奥都健康的话。。。无敌内线
:
: 据新华社电东区老大凯尔特人队继续增强阵容，用帕金斯换来了雷霆队的格林和克斯蒂
: 奇两员大将。至此，凯尔特人队在篮下囤积了加内特、奥尼尔、小奥尼尔、克斯蒂奇、
: 格伦·戴维斯等众多好手，再加上能够打大前锋和小前锋位置的格林，“绿衫军”的内
: 线配置可谓豪华。
| J********i
发帖数: 50662 | 4 昨天是真累趴了
鸡块的防守很物理的，再说昨天又是主场
【在 S*********i 的大作中提到】
: 看新闻说，原来，绿人的哥几个对交易走了帕金斯很不满，都是看着帕金斯成长的，所
: 以昨晚带着情绪打球，输了。
| s**c
发帖数: 34339 | 5 输一场球倒也无所谓，交易不错，补强了我波的薄弱点，关键是情感上接受不了。 | J********i
发帖数: 50662 | 6 没啥。。。昨天这场要是赢下来。。。算是逆天了。。。损rp
输一场球倒也无所谓，交易不错，补强了我波的薄弱点，关键是情感上接受不了。
【在 s**c 的大作中提到】
: 输一场球倒也无所谓，交易不错，补强了我波的薄弱点，关键是情感上接受不了。
| s**c
发帖数: 34339 | 7 转一片文章，俺觉得写得不错
BOSTON CELTICS: C-minus
Strategically, the trade made sense: The Celtics decided that the hole
created by Perkins' departure (rebounding and interior defense) wasn't as
important as the hole they needed to fill (perimeter scoring, perimeter
defense, flexibility). The dirty little secret of the 2010-11 Celtics? They
really missed … (wait for it) … Tony Allen.
That's right, Trick-Or-Treat Tony!
They actually missed his defense and athleticism. Marquis Daniels did a
decent job filling the void, but once he got hurt, Paul Pierce became Boston
's only perimeter player on the entire roster who could defend Carmelo
Anthony (Round 1?) and LeBron James (Round 2?). You really want to rely on a
32-year-old with nearly 1,000 games on his odometer for four straight
playoff rounds as your only small forward? That left Danny Ainge with two
choices: overpay for a rental (Shane Battier, Jamario Moon, Mickael Pietrus,
etc.) or fundamentally change his team.
Here's what he saw with Perkins: a 26-year-old with some miles (and multiple
surgeries on his shoulders and knees) in line to make $10 million a year (a
price the Celtics didn't want to pay), only they couldn't play him at
crunch time because, between Rajon Rondo's fear of getting fouled and
Perkins' lack of offense, that meant the Celtics were playing three-on-five
offensively down the stretch. You can't win that way. That's why Glen Davis
grabbed Perkins' crunch-time minutes against good teams.
And here's what Ainge saw with Green: only 24 years old, a phenomenal
teammate by all accounts, someone who played out of position battling bigger
players and never complained (not once). I remember looking up his stats a
few weeks ago, when I was working on my trade-value column, and wondering
whether his confidence was waning: He had been a 39 percent shooter on 3-
pointers in 2008-09, but he dwindled to 30 percent this season. Ainge
probably hopes that Green (A) will be better playing his natural position, (
B) can swing from big forward to small forward depending on the matchups,
and (C) can spell Pierce and Ray Allen even better than James Posey did
three years ago. Against Golden State on Tuesday, the Celtics played Von
Wafer, Robinson and Delonte West at the same time. That would work against
LeBron or Carmelo? Please. With Orlando fading into obscurity, only the
Lakers loomed as a playoff team that made you say, "We definitely need
Perkins in that series." Was that enough of a reason to keep him around? You
tell me.
If the Celtics had a glaring flaw these past two years, it was a lack of
flexibility: They could never go small, only big, and they were entirely
predictable at crunch time with Garnett, Davis, Pierce, Allen and Rondo (and
Perkins almost always stuck on the bench). Green allows them to play small
ball against athletic teams, protects them from Pierce getting into foul
trouble and gives them another solid defender against LeBron and Carmelo.
Make no mistake -- this was a gaping, bullet-sized hole that needed to be
filled. But was that hole bigger than the one created by trading Perkins? He
played Dwight Howard well; that's gone. He played Andrew Bynum well; that's
gone. He supplied a toughness that's rarely seen in the league anymore; it
remains to be seen whether Garnett can carry that torch alone. Actually,
that's my biggest fear if we weren't putting a ton of eggs in the Shaq
Basket (scary thought), banking on Jermaine O'Neal to crawl out of his grave
(not likely), hoping for decent minutes from Nenad Krstic (yikes), praying
for a Troy Murphy buyout (too bad it's not 2008) and maybe even banking on a
Rasheed Wallace comeback (just shoot me).
Still, I believe Boston's perimeter hole was more glaring than the one
Perkins just left … on paper. Remember, the Celtics were 33-10 this season
without Perkins before the trade -- it's not as though he was irreplaceable.
He made the first 42 minutes of every game easier; he didn't matter for the
last six. If this were "Sliding Doors" and we could play the rest of the
Celtics' season two ways -- one with Green, one with Perkins -- I'd bet
anything that Green would log more crunch-time minutes than Perkins does. I
liked the trade on paper. I really did. This team is better positioned to
make the Finals now. On paper. On paper.
On paper.
And there's the rub. We don't play basketball on paper. I cared about this
particular Celtics team more than any Celtics squad since Reggie Lewis was
alive -- and that includes the 2008 title team -- mainly because the players
enjoyed one another so much. I wasn't surprised to hear that Perkins cried
for most of the day Thursday, that Boston's veterans were infuriated by the
trade, that Rondo (Perk's best friend) was practically catatonic heading
into Thursday night's game in Denver. These guys loved one another. As
recently as last season, you couldn't have said that. But Shaq loosened
everyone up; so did four full years of the core guys being together; so did
Doc's belated maturation into an impactful coach (believe me, I'm as shocked
as anyone); so did the contract extensions (Boston's four All-Stars are
signed through at least 2012); so did the bonding experience of blowing Game
7 and having that purple confetti fall on their heads; so did the enduring
belief that nobody had ever beaten them when they were healthy.
I attended Tuesday's game in Oakland and saw exactly what I expected to see:
a well-rested, veteran team that knew it hadn't won there in six years and
took care of business accordingly. In the first half, David Lee didn't like
the way Perkins fouled him on a drive, whirled around and bumped Garnett and
Perkins (standing next to each other) on his way to the line. Double
technicals. I remember thinking, "Uh-oh -- no way we're losing now."
Something like that happened frequently with these Celtics. They had become
the modern-day version of the Bad Boy Pistons -- not the fighting, just the
barking, woofing, shoving and general villainy -- with Perk and Garnett as
Bill Laimbeer and Rick Mahorn. That was the team's identity, for better and
worse. They knew who they were. I left Oakland thinking that we were headed
for the Finals. We had "The Look," as Mike Lombardi calls it.
Less than 48 hours later, I found myself staring at an "FYI: Perk for Jeff
Green" e-mail for two solid minutes. What???????? I remember drafting Perk
out of high school. I remember his being fat and awkward. I remember liking
his mean streak that surfaced at the strangest times. I remember those
flashes of potential as Perk banged the boards with Al Jefferson. I remember
thinking we could count on him after the Garnett trade and not really
knowing why. I remember watching that same ugly jump hook over and over
again, hoping beyond hope that it might get better. I remember winning a
title with him, and I remember losing a title without him. I remember seeing
him warm up before opening night, a good two hours before the game, almost
as though he didn't want the team to forget that he was coming back. Like
every other Celtics fan, I watched him go from nothing to something. I
certainly never imagined watching Perk play for another team.
My father was more crushed than me. He's been a season-ticket holder since
1973 and still attends 25 Celtics games per season. As he explained Thursday
night, "I was invested in Perkins. I sit 15 feet from their bench -- I
watched him grow up. I don't think sports is always about winning and losing
. We might be better, but right now, I don't care. I liked the team we had.
It doesn't feel right that he's not on this team."
See, you can't truly love a team until you've suffered with it. The 2008
title team always felt like a fantasy team that had been thrown together in
some sort of euphoric basketball dream that wasn't quite real. Losing
Garnett in 2009 (and eventually, the Orlando series) definitely hurt;
blowing the 2010 title was 100 times worse. The agony of those last two
games pushed our relationship with the team to an entirely different level.
I still remember seeing Perkins rolling around in pain during Game 6 -- it
happened about 20 feet away from me -- then the veterans watching him get
helped off, his right leg dangling in the air, the life sinking from their
bodies like Apollo watching Rocky wave him back to the corner. With a
healthy 2011 Garnett in that Game 7, maybe we could have survived. Banged-up
2010 Garnett couldn't get it done. The trophy was sitting there, and we
couldn't take it. A crestfallen Perkins spent the summer blaming himself,
busted his butt to come back … and the Celtics dumped him a month after he
returned. Claiming they couldn't afford him only made it worse: The kid
signed a discount extension four years ago and outperformed it. They owed
him.
Selfishly, I wanted one more chance with them: Garnett, Pierce, Allen, Rondo
, Perkins, Baby and Doc, the only seven guys who mattered here. But that's
the thing about sports -- "them" always seems to change when you least
expect it. We traded Charlie Scott when I was in the second grade. We traded
Danny Ainge when I was in college. Now Perkins. Those were the three most
brutal Celtics deals of my lifetime. Each one hurt the same. Doesn't matter
how old you are, where you are in your life, where you're living … there's
no feeling quite like your favorite team trading someone you genuinely liked.
You might remember LeBron and Carmelo getting excoriated for stabbing their
respective teams in the back. You want to know why they didn't care? Because
, deep down, they know that teams don't care about players, either. They
probably witnessed 20 variations of the Perkins trade during their first few
years in the league. Hey, it's a business. Hey, that's just sports. Hey,
trades come with the territory. Isn't loyalty a two-way street? When a team
does what's best for itself, we call it smart. When a player does the same,
we call him selfish. We never think about what a double standard it is.
I thought Perk deserved better than getting blindsided in Denver, then
having to limp around with a sprained knee and pack his stuff with tears
rolling down his face. Maybe I'm a sap. But that was our guy. Family. On the
phone, my dad decided -- completely seriously -- that he would rather have
lost the 2011 title with Perkins than have tried to win it without him. Why?
"Because he was truly part of our team," Dad said. "I don't want to root for
laundry. I watched that guy for eight years. That should mean something.
Continuity should mean something."
Within a few weeks, both of us will have talked ourselves into the Jeff
Green era. That's what fans do. We take the hits, shake them off, keep
coming back. The Celtics will morph into something slightly different: a
little more athletic, a little more flexible, a little younger and,
hopefully, almost as tough. Perkins will fly to Oklahoma City, live out of a
hotel room, make new friends and try to help Durant and Russell Westbrook
make the Finals. Maybe the Celtics will see him there. It won't feel weird
at all, because that's the way professional sports work. We are rooting for
laundry. Whether we want to admit it or not.
by Bill Simmons | b*a
发帖数: 17670 | 8 少了甜瓜，没了球霸。鸡块的进攻和防守都好看多了
，所
【在 J********i 的大作中提到】
: 昨天是真累趴了
: 鸡块的防守很物理的，再说昨天又是主场
| s**c
发帖数: 34339 | 9 ｗｈａｔ？瓜瓜你看前三节了么？
【在 b*a 的大作中提到】
: 少了甜瓜，没了球霸。鸡块的进攻和防守都好看多了
:
: ，所
| J********i
发帖数: 50662 | 10 昨天进攻太难看了，除了最后几分钟
防守是因为多了nene这个优势点
【在 b*a 的大作中提到】
: 少了甜瓜，没了球霸。鸡块的进攻和防守都好看多了
:
: ，所
| b*a
发帖数: 17670 | 11 那也比甜瓜一人战，别人看强
【在 J********i 的大作中提到】
: 昨天进攻太难看了，除了最后几分钟
: 防守是因为多了nene这个优势点
| J********i
发帖数: 50662 | 12 昨天鸡块的打法也基本上是一人战，别人看
大家挨个单打。。。失误。。。
那也比甜瓜一人战，别人看强
【在 b*a 的大作中提到】
: 那也比甜瓜一人战，别人看强
| S*********i
发帖数: 8614 | 13 昨天绿人的投篮39.0%，3p只有 17.6%，而金块有45.3% 和33.3% | J********i
发帖数: 50662 | 14 鸡块前场篮板然后补篮，补篮命中率接近100%
【在 S*********i 的大作中提到】
: 昨天绿人的投篮39.0%，3p只有 17.6%，而金块有45.3% 和33.3%
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