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NewJersey版 - 答要求停止抗争的人士 -- 转纽约游行中黑衣大姐的信 (转载)
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I******t
发帖数: 829
1
我们有幸在10/28纽约游行中结识了这位身着黑衣戴墨镜的大姐,她激昂慷慨地带领大
家喊口号,并在游行结束前,宣读了我们的抗议信。相信很多来过现场或看过视频的朋
友都印象深刻。在我们的邮件组里,她的很多发言也给大家带来不少新的思考。经过大
姐同意,我在此分享她的部分发言,希望帮助大家澄清认识,鼓足勇气,坚定斗争的决
心。
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下面是黑衣大姐答复Facebook 上某个3rd generation Asian American关于建议停止游
行接受前面道歉的建议。
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Dear Lisa,
I hope u have already seen my answer back to yr message earlier. But, all
through today, I still have the urge to write to u directly. Again, I'm
writing with my utmost sincerity, hoping u and yr friends - the 3rd
generation in America - would read my letter with an open mind. I wish each
word could bring all of u closer to us = the people who have demonstrated
on 10/28 and will demonstrate again on 11/8. Hopefully, as a result, we
will see u ALL on 11/8 joining us in this important event.
First of all, let me thank you for taking yr time & effort to write to us
such a nice long letter which shows your thoughtfulness and consideration
towards our cause. It's a job well done!
However, I'm afraid u may have overlooked a few facts. Let's discuss them
together -
1) In a conflict, there usually is a villain on one side and a victim/hero
on the other. (In our scenario, it's a victim.) No matter how u look at it
, Kimmel is the villain and all the Chinese in the world is the victim. A
villain is a villain, FOREVER. He can NEVER become a victim. Demanding to
fire Kimmel, in case it does happen, it simply means he's losing a high-
salaried job! Will he become a victim then? Absolutely NOT! So, who's the
victim again? All of us Chinese!!! We r forever the victim in this case.
DO NOT FORGET THAT! AND DO NOT BE CONFUSED!
2) A villain does something wrong. A punishment usually comes as a result,
if justice is granted. So, why is asking for a punishment to a villain
become a backfire? I don't know if u r a working lady in America. If
anyone doesn't perform in a job, he/she gets fired. That's America. It's
happening all day long. In this case, Kimmel is not only "not performing",
he "mis-performed"! So, why does demanding him to be fired become
unreasonable?
3) These 2 remarks - "Killing all Chinese" + "Should we let the Chinese live
" hurt all of us - Chinese - in a profound way! I m telling u that, for me,
I WOULD NEVER FORGET. Yet, because of the love for humanity, I would TRY
to forgive under certain conditions : a formal & sincere public apology from
Kimmel, the Producer and ABC! That's already our generosity, our Chinese
way of generosity offering to such a villain : Kimmel!!! (Is that too much
to ask???)
4) If the villain's cruelty is not brought out to open and be punished, who
is going to protect the victim? Remember, Lisa and all 3rd generation's
young men and women, what we r doing now is to establish a better world for
this generation, the next generation and BEYOND! We r doing this for us,
for u, for yr children and yr grand-children & BEYOND!!!
Pls join us on 11/8!!!
Yours truly.
s****z
发帖数: 1501
2
当然应该fire
否则我们那么多人帮他刷知名度啊
道歉有什么用
fire才是实在的

以下转发纽约游行中朗读宣言的黑衣大姐的信,希望能澄清某些模糊的认识。Thank
you for yr comment and suggestion.

【在 I******t 的大作中提到】
: 我们有幸在10/28纽约游行中结识了这位身着黑衣戴墨镜的大姐,她激昂慷慨地带领大
: 家喊口号,并在游行结束前,宣读了我们的抗议信。相信很多来过现场或看过视频的朋
: 友都印象深刻。在我们的邮件组里,她的很多发言也给大家带来不少新的思考。经过大
: 姐同意,我在此分享她的部分发言,希望帮助大家澄清认识,鼓足勇气,坚定斗争的决
: 心。
: **********************************************************
: 下面是黑衣大姐答复Facebook 上某个3rd generation Asian American关于建议停止游
: 行接受前面道歉的建议。
: **********************************************************
: Dear Lisa,

I******t
发帖数: 829
3
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下面是她刚发的一个发言
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We r too generous and too "overly" considerate.
DEMAND is a DEMAND. We demand and without ABC saying NO to us, we already
said NO to ourselves! WHY??? And, what do u mean it's not suitable to ask
them to apologize AGAIN??? When did u see the formal, official, sincere,
apology directly addressing to the Chinese on air in the show from Kimmel
and some high up there in ABC??? Did I miss it??? Why r we proposing
something EASY for them??? What has been our GOAL? Pls never forget our goal
! Were u one of us shouting - FIRE KIMMEL last Monday??? ABC apologize!!!
Why all of a sudden, everything changes??????????????????????? ??????
I******t
发帖数: 829
4
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以下是黑衣大姐对JK所谓道歉的看法和坚持游行的理由。
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Thank you for yr comment and suggestion. U have some very good points here
in the letter. I personally appreciate yr time and thoughts offered here to
write such a nice long message.
However, in my humble point of view, I don't see the following : (pls tell
me if u disagree)
1) There was absolutely no, NONE, remorse in Kimmel when he did his so-
called apologies. If there was any, I couldn't see it nor could I feel it.
He was in the show business. He knew how to act. He didn't even care to
act that he's sorry.
2) As of this minute, he was still saying (in all his so-called apologies),
"This is entertainment. I am sorry that u guys didn't feel it that way."
NO, WE DON'T! Why would killing be entertaining??? And, out of nowhere, he
even remarked, " Should we let the Chinese live?"
3) To me, an apology has to be sincere. It has to be addressed to the
PEOPLE to whom u have done something wrong. Moreover, a formal apology
needs to state what has been done wrong and it will not happen again. On
all the so-called apologies, did he even mention the word : "Chinese"???
Did he actually say to us, "I m terribly sorry to all of you Chinese people
that my statements had hurt you and I realized these remarks were totally
wrong?!" He just continues to say, "This is entertainment." It's not an
apology. He's only re-stating why he was saying those things - to entertain
. How can anyone even THINK those were apologies?
4) If u have read the so-called apology letter to 80-20, u will realize it
was not a well written formal letter of apology. It's from ABC! There r
tons of people who know how to write. It's not impressive at all! And,
look at the people who signed the letter. The one who's in charge of late
night shows may be acceptable. The other one, I don't know who that is.
And, to me, they r not even high officials who should stand out to accept
their wrong doings.
5) During one of the interviews, Kimmel was asked to resign. If he was
someone at least with a brain, he would avoid answering this. Instead, he
said, "Oh, u can stand outside all day long, this is not happening!" Can't
u see how arrogant he is??? That's why, after seeing all these so-called
apologies, I m getting more ANGRY. Yes, ANGRY is the word. And, I m
totally convinced that he should go. No, he's not resigning! HE MUST BE
FIRED!!!
I really would not want to over-react so as, as u put it : getting back-
fired. Yet, I m not slightly convinced that we have achieved what we r
looking for - a formal & sincere apology from Kimmel and the producer and
ABC, on the show, specifically addressing to us - the Chinese people all
over the world, that have said something awfully wrong and hurt us
tremendously!!! After this insult and hurt, it's not easy to forgive and to
forget but we would try!!!
Salute to all of us!
I******t
发帖数: 829
5
谢谢你联系媒体及很多其他努力。
能否参加周六晚上的会议?

【在 s****z 的大作中提到】
: 当然应该fire
: 否则我们那么多人帮他刷知名度啊
: 道歉有什么用
: fire才是实在的
:
: 以下转发纽约游行中朗读宣言的黑衣大姐的信,希望能澄清某些模糊的认识。Thank
: you for yr comment and suggestion.

i*******e
发帖数: 6275
6
就是要彻底搞臭鸡毛和ABC,不然以后类似事件会穷出不尽
I******t
发帖数: 829
7
同意,握手。
参照Paula Deen的先例,我们的要求并不过分。如果现在停下来,只能被那些反动势力
嘲笑智商低。

【在 i*******e 的大作中提到】
: 就是要彻底搞臭鸡毛和ABC,不然以后类似事件会穷出不尽
j*********u
发帖数: 228
8
写得好!怎么在Facebook上加她?

【在 I******t 的大作中提到】
: 我们有幸在10/28纽约游行中结识了这位身着黑衣戴墨镜的大姐,她激昂慷慨地带领大
: 家喊口号,并在游行结束前,宣读了我们的抗议信。相信很多来过现场或看过视频的朋
: 友都印象深刻。在我们的邮件组里,她的很多发言也给大家带来不少新的思考。经过大
: 姐同意,我在此分享她的部分发言,希望帮助大家澄清认识,鼓足勇气,坚定斗争的决
: 心。
: **********************************************************
: 下面是黑衣大姐答复Facebook 上某个3rd generation Asian American关于建议停止游
: 行接受前面道歉的建议。
: **********************************************************
: Dear Lisa,

c*******o
发帖数: 472
9
必须要fire Jimmy!

【在 s****z 的大作中提到】
: 当然应该fire
: 否则我们那么多人帮他刷知名度啊
: 道歉有什么用
: fire才是实在的
:
: 以下转发纽约游行中朗读宣言的黑衣大姐的信,希望能澄清某些模糊的认识。Thank
: you for yr comment and suggestion.

d*********e
发帖数: 1334
10
大姐说的真好
支持开除鸡毛
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