Y******u
发帖数: 1912 | 1 Condo, 1 Bed.
现在看了Brooklyn height, Dumbo, Williamsburg, 还没开始看曼哈顿，这个价位在曼
哈顿估计只能买到3ave以东和9ave以西的5年以上600sqft的1bed/alcove studio.
如果在brooklyn height可以买到new development比较好的800sqft 1bed loft(没有或
partial manhattan view)
Williamsburg价格几乎跟Manhattan一样了，大概可以买到河边600+ sqft的高层1 bed(
partial manhattan view)
感觉这个价位要论生活质量可能住到岛外会好一点，但毕竟是第一套房，肯定还是以投
资为目的，成家以后还要换大房的
所以从投资的角度来看，哪个neighborhood比较好？ |
v******6
发帖数: 796 | 2 600-700k能在brooklyn90%的地方买到house了 |
Y******u
发帖数: 1912 | 3 对house没兴趣啊，又没成家，以后也不好出租，还是觉得luxury condo比较适合
【在 v******6 的大作中提到】
: 600-700k能在brooklyn90%的地方买到house了
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m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | |
Y******u
发帖数: 1912 | 5 Manhattan好一点的1bed rental大概是3500到4000，这个投资回报比还算可以把
我知道跑到远一点地方估计投资回报比可以高一倍，但我现在又不想去住那么远的地方
【在 m*******y 的大作中提到】
: 600k 1bed 在哪儿也不适合投资
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m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 6
我的意思是 你说的这些bk的地方 房价已经到顶了 而且dumbo马上要建大批的预制板的
经济适用房 我印象中是一万套 到时候对房价和租价都有往下拉的形式 你说的那些
luxury condo， building owner直接往外租的多 大地主 个人拥有condo的往外租 不
合算 别忘了还有物业费 如果物业费3000 你再加上每月的mortgage 你要租多少收得回
来呢
【在 Y******u 的大作中提到】
: Manhattan好一点的1bed rental大概是3500到4000，这个投资回报比还算可以把
: 我知道跑到远一点地方估计投资回报比可以高一倍，但我现在又不想去住那么远的地方
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r*******t
发帖数: 8550 | 7 LZ all cash ...
【在 m*******y 的大作中提到】
:
: 我的意思是 你说的这些bk的地方 房价已经到顶了 而且dumbo马上要建大批的预制板的
: 经济适用房 我印象中是一万套 到时候对房价和租价都有往下拉的形式 你说的那些
: luxury condo， building owner直接往外租的多 大地主 个人拥有condo的往外租 不
: 合算 别忘了还有物业费 如果物业费3000 你再加上每月的mortgage 你要租多少收得回
: 来呢
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m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 8
那更不叫投资了........ 可以买 但是不是投资
【在 r*******t 的大作中提到】
: LZ all cash ...
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c********e
发帖数: 6158 | 9 LZ has unknown source of cash ^_^
【在 m*******y 的大作中提到】
:
: 那更不叫投资了........ 可以买 但是不是投资
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z*******o
发帖数: 4773 | |
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c********e
发帖数: 6158 | 11 哈哈，谢谢引荐。可我自己的收入刚够开销，是个月光族，怎么懂投资呢？ ：）
【在 z*******o 的大作中提到】
: 去征求一下cakecheese的意见..
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y******y
发帖数: 676 | 12 曼哈顿3ave以东的condo也许是不错的选择，2ave地铁建好以后交通会方便很多。另外
有没有看看upper west side的condo, 上次版上有人说买的2bedroom2bath的condo不到
1M. 你的预算应该可以买个好点的1bedroom condo.
bed(
【在 Y******u 的大作中提到】
: Condo, 1 Bed.
: 现在看了Brooklyn height, Dumbo, Williamsburg, 还没开始看曼哈顿，这个价位在曼
: 哈顿估计只能买到3ave以东和9ave以西的5年以上600sqft的1bed/alcove studio.
: 如果在brooklyn height可以买到new development比较好的800sqft 1bed loft(没有或
: partial manhattan view)
: Williamsburg价格几乎跟Manhattan一样了，大概可以买到河边600+ sqft的高层1 bed(
: partial manhattan view)
: 感觉这个价位要论生活质量可能住到岛外会好一点，但毕竟是第一套房，肯定还是以投
: 资为目的，成家以后还要换大房的
: 所以从投资的角度来看，哪个neighborhood比较好？
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Y******u
发帖数: 1912 | 13 Thanks...I wish I can buy a condo using cash but unfortunately not
【在 r*******t 的大作中提到】
: LZ all cash ...
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r*******t
发帖数: 8550 | 14 using check instead?
【在 Y******u 的大作中提到】
: Thanks...I wish I can buy a condo using cash but unfortunately not
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Y******u
发帖数: 1912 | 15 thanks for the explanation. I get your point. Seems like you know a lot
about real estate investment. Which area do you think works best for my case?
Downpayment 150K
Monthly payment (mortgage + common + tax) < 3K
【在 m*******y 的大作中提到】
:
: 那更不叫投资了........ 可以买 但是不是投资
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g*w
发帖数: 289 | |
Y******u
发帖数: 1912 | 17 Thanks for the input.
Most new condo in upper west is insanely expensive while I don't want to buy
condo over 10 years because they don't have tax abate (rather pay higher
mortgage instead of tax).
east of 3ave is probably the only choice on island :(
【在 y******y 的大作中提到】
: 曼哈顿3ave以东的condo也许是不错的选择，2ave地铁建好以后交通会方便很多。另外
: 有没有看看upper west side的condo, 上次版上有人说买的2bedroom2bath的condo不到
: 1M. 你的预算应该可以买个好点的1bedroom condo.
:
: bed(
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m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 18
case?
Park slope 紧紧巴巴 我希望你除了这150k之外还有个四五万（closing cost预算两万
condo第一年的保险费要富余出来）供开销
或者除了你已经看的这些大热门之外 看看正在上升中的区 公园四周的 每尺500-600块
的有很多新建condo 都还有着十多年的免税 150k现金说不定能供两套
【在 Y******u 的大作中提到】
: thanks for the explanation. I get your point. Seems like you know a lot
: about real estate investment. Which area do you think works best for my case?
: Downpayment 150K
: Monthly payment (mortgage + common + tax) < 3K
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d*****j
发帖数: 1192 | 19 where exactly is this 公园四周?
你觉得曼哈顿哪里是值的投资？
展开说说。谢了。
【在 m*******y 的大作中提到】
:
: case?
: Park slope 紧紧巴巴 我希望你除了这150k之外还有个四五万（closing cost预算两万
: condo第一年的保险费要富余出来）供开销
: 或者除了你已经看的这些大热门之外 看看正在上升中的区 公园四周的 每尺500-600块
: 的有很多新建condo 都还有着十多年的免税 150k现金说不定能供两套
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m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 20 曼哈顿没有值得投资的
公园指 prospect park
【在 d*****j 的大作中提到】
: where exactly is this 公园四周?
: 你觉得曼哈顿哪里是值的投资？
: 展开说说。谢了。
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h*****f
发帖数: 248 | 21 Last time I looked at those condos w/tax abatement. I noted that their
listing prices were 10-20% more expensive.
I came across this article when I looked at those condos:
http://www.urbandigs.com/2006/06/biggest_scam_in.html |
m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 22 快速读了一下 我也play devil's advocate哈
1. 他说的这个不是NYC ， NYC的new construction和二手房 其实价格差不许多， 他
说的是其他地方，旧房及其便宜， 新房贵许多的情况。 他举的例子是1400$/sqft 这
种我们不叫投资了哈 这个叫bso
2. 投资不外乎resale和rent out， 新建condo TAX ABATEMENT十五年， 十五年之后
考虑通货膨胀 每个月的tax加个800块吧 楼主这个预算打个比方 这八百块也不算啥了
吧 租金也升的上去
【在 h*****f 的大作中提到】
: Last time I looked at those condos w/tax abatement. I noted that their
: listing prices were 10-20% more expensive.
: I came across this article when I looked at those condos:
: http://www.urbandigs.com/2006/06/biggest_scam_in.html
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h*****f
发帖数: 248 | 23 yea, agree.
my point was that with tax abatement, the condo is more expensive to start
with, and probably with limited upside within the 15-yr period since the
closer to the expiration, the less attractive the property...but I am not
sure exactly how bad the tax abatement can affect the resale value...
tax abatement probably makes sense for those w/AMT since those owners cannot
deduct the property tax...but mortgage interest. |
Y******u
发帖数: 1912 | 24 If i don't want to live far (just cross east river is my limit), what do you
think? maybe without potential gain but at least keep value.
【在 m*******y 的大作中提到】
: 曼哈顿没有值得投资的
: 公园指 prospect park
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m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 25
you
哇好难 也许park slope 已经不便宜了 或者long island city 买二手的新建condo 四
五年以前的 有的owner已经撑不住了开始卖 基本上他们只求你take over bank
balance
你住罗斯福岛是吧 岛上什么情况？
【在 Y******u 的大作中提到】
: If i don't want to live far (just cross east river is my limit), what do you
: think? maybe without potential gain but at least keep value.
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Y******u
发帖数: 1912 | 26 That's the first place I checked out. Only one condo. Price and amenity/room
are both pretty good but the entire south exposure is blocked by another
building (<50m distance). Can't bear rooms without sunshine
【在 m*******y 的大作中提到】
:
: you
: 哇好难 也许park slope 已经不便宜了 或者long island city 买二手的新建condo 四
: 五年以前的 有的owner已经撑不住了开始卖 基本上他们只求你take over bank
: balance
: 你住罗斯福岛是吧 岛上什么情况？
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m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | |
q*********9
发帖数: 18 | 28 Williamsburg is better loction,Many ethnic groups have enclaves within
Williamsburg, including Italians, Puerto Ricans, and Dominicans. There is
also a number of Hasidic Jews. It is also an influential hub for indie rock,
hipster culture, and the local art community. The neighborhood is being
redefined by a growing population and the rapid development of housing and
retail space.
On May 11, 2005, the New York City Council passed a large-scale rezoning of
the North Side and Greenpoint waterfront.[14] Much of the waterfront
district was rezoned to accommodate high density residential uses and mixed
use with a set-aside (but no earmarked funding) for the creation of open
waterfront park space, as well as strict building guidelines calling for
developers to create a continuous two-mile-long string of waterfront
esplanades. Local elected officials touted the rezoning as an economically
beneficial way to address the decline of manufacturing along the North
Brooklyn waterfront, which had resulted in a number of vacant and derelict
warehouses in Williamsburg.
The rezoning represented a dramatic shift of scale in the ongoing process of
gentrification in the area since the early 1990s. The waterfront
neighborhoods, once characterized by active manufacturing and other light
industry interspersed with smaller residential buildings, were rezoned
primarily for residential use. Alongside the construction of new residential
buildings, many warehouses were converted into residential loft buildings.
Among the first was the Smith-Gray Building, a turn-of-the-century structure
recognizable by its blue cast-iron facade. The conversion of the former
Gretsch music instrument factory garnered significant attention and
controversy in the New York press primarily because it heralded the arrival
in Williamsburg of Tribeca-style lofts and attracted, as residents and
investors, a number of celebrities.[15][16][17][18]
Officials championing the rezoning cited its supposed economic benefits, the
new private waterfront promenades, and its inclusionary housing component
– which offed developers large tax breaks in exchange for promises to rent
about a third of the newly created housing units at "affordable" rates (
which amount to upper-middle class pricing).[citation needed] Critics
countered that similar set-asides for affordable housing have gone
unfulfilled in previous large-scale developments, such as Battery Park City.
The New York Times reported this proved to be the case in Williamsburg as
well, as developers largely decided to forgo incentives to build affordable
housing in inland areas.[19] |
S*******s
发帖数: 13043 | 29 http://www.eastcoastlic.com/
bed(
【在 Y******u 的大作中提到】
: Condo, 1 Bed.
: 现在看了Brooklyn height, Dumbo, Williamsburg, 还没开始看曼哈顿，这个价位在曼
: 哈顿估计只能买到3ave以东和9ave以西的5年以上600sqft的1bed/alcove studio.
: 如果在brooklyn height可以买到new development比较好的800sqft 1bed loft(没有或
: partial manhattan view)
: Williamsburg价格几乎跟Manhattan一样了，大概可以买到河边600+ sqft的高层1 bed(
: partial manhattan view)
: 感觉这个价位要论生活质量可能住到岛外会好一点，但毕竟是第一套房，肯定还是以投
: 资为目的，成家以后还要换大房的
: 所以从投资的角度来看，哪个neighborhood比较好？
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