a*o
发帖数: 25262 | |
m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 2 got deleted?
cant believe "educated" people would go by she said he said. what's the
source? |
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 3 Don't know, it's just disappeared.
This was the first post: |
c***a
发帖数: 942 | 4 Typical Republican tactic: Lies and Fears.
Don't attack me. That's something all media agree upon. |
i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 5 So, telling you that there is a "cliff" in front and don't go anymore "
forward" is consider " Lies and Fears"?
【在 c***a 的大作中提到】
: Typical Republican tactic: Lies and Fears.
: Don't attack me. That's something all media agree upon.
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Y*****2
发帖数: 38613 | 6 i am sitting back with my pop corn to see how they gonna solve this "fiscal
cliff" issue.
please join me and enjoy the show, b/c from now on it is down hill to hell
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: So, telling you that there is a "cliff" in front and don't go anymore "
: forward" is consider " Lies and Fears"?
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j**4
发帖数: 10425 | 7 i am sitting back with my popcorn to see how ignorant people pretending they
know about economics...
please join me and enjoy the show, b/c nothing is more entertaining than
watching a bunch of clowns |
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 8 Put your thinking about the bad side of the Democratic party aside. What do
you like about GOP and why do you support it?
.
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: So, telling you that there is a "cliff" in front and don't go anymore "
: forward" is consider " Lies and Fears"?
|
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 9 差不多滚了，可是看见你又说了，所以。。。唉。。
What kind of pop corn are you eating?
fiscal
【在 Y*****2 的大作中提到】
: i am sitting back with my pop corn to see how they gonna solve this "fiscal
: cliff" issue.
: please join me and enjoy the show, b/c from now on it is down hill to hell
|
i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 10 Looks like it is still there, but can't see it on the NY Board.
Anyway,
姚律师, 你好,
请问 , 支持非法移民如何有助合法移民!?
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: 又不见了？？
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t1/NewYork/32650327_0_1.html
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T********e
发帖数: 8631 | 11 Aren't there some end of the world scenarios back last August? I went into
the mountains floating on rivers for a week with no phone, no radio, no road
and no way out ... when I emerged, civilization still
fiscal
【在 Y*****2 的大作中提到】
: i am sitting back with my pop corn to see how they gonna solve this "fiscal
: cliff" issue.
: please join me and enjoy the show, b/c from now on it is down hill to hell
|
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 12 谁是姚律师？
假如一个小孩子不是在这里出生，几岁来到这里没有身份，从小在美国长大，受这里的
教育直到大学出来。你说把他遣返到什么地方？还不如给个身份让他纳税。
上次 NYT 就报道了一个很小从香港来的在这里长大，可是不是在这里出生，没身份，
上了大学也找不到合法工作。
非法移民合法不是说把昨天偷渡过来人的合法给身份。
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: Looks like it is still there, but can't see it on the NY Board.
: Anyway,
: 姚律师, 你好,
: 请问 , 支持非法移民如何有助合法移民!?
|
j**4
发帖数: 10425 | 13 i dont support giving amnesty to all illegal immigrants. but i totally
support amnesty to those kids
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: 谁是姚律师？
: 假如一个小孩子不是在这里出生，几岁来到这里没有身份，从小在美国长大，受这里的
: 教育直到大学出来。你说把他遣返到什么地方？还不如给个身份让他纳税。
: 上次 NYT 就报道了一个很小从香港来的在这里长大，可是不是在这里出生，没身份，
: 上了大学也找不到合法工作。
: 非法移民合法不是说把昨天偷渡过来人的合法给身份。
|
i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 14 There are too many good things the GOP have done to be listed here. If you
don't know them, maybe it is time for you to do some research and take a
look first.
Also, this analysis from someone in China on 共和党 vs. 民主党 is actually
spot on:
http://www.mitbbs.com/article3/NewYork/32635439_0_tp.html
do
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: Put your thinking about the bad side of the Democratic party aside. What do
: you like about GOP and why do you support it?
: .
|
Y*****2
发帖数: 38613 | 15 对牛谈琴
you
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: There are too many good things the GOP have done to be listed here. If you
: don't know them, maybe it is time for you to do some research and take a
: look first.
: Also, this analysis from someone in China on 共和党 vs. 民主党 is actually
: spot on:
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article3/NewYork/32635439_0_tp.html
:
: do
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a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 16 美国是个移民国家，别以为自己拿到了身份有工作了就希望把门关上。美国最有钱的三
个人， Bill Gates, Warren Buffett & Larry Ellison 都是 Democrats. 这些人经常
要求国会多招些技术移民，留学生名额，不知道这里有没有留学生呢？？
谁又反对了？？ |
Y*****2
发帖数: 38613 | 17 o8 block科技移民搞老墨移民，太黑
显果果培养票仓
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: 美国是个移民国家，别以为自己拿到了身份有工作了就希望把门关上。美国最有钱的三
: 个人， Bill Gates, Warren Buffett & Larry Ellison 都是 Democrats. 这些人经常
: 要求国会多招些技术移民，留学生名额，不知道这里有没有留学生呢？？
: 谁又反对了？？
|
i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 18 You do realize that this actually would promote more parents to send their
under age kids over here, correct?
Again, how does this encourage others to legally come to the U.S. when it is
easier to get the green card if they are illegal?
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: 谁是姚律师？
: 假如一个小孩子不是在这里出生，几岁来到这里没有身份，从小在美国长大，受这里的
: 教育直到大学出来。你说把他遣返到什么地方？还不如给个身份让他纳税。
: 上次 NYT 就报道了一个很小从香港来的在这里长大，可是不是在这里出生，没身份，
: 上了大学也找不到合法工作。
: 非法移民合法不是说把昨天偷渡过来人的合法给身份。
|
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 19 You need list more specific points to convince other people to agree with
you and the party you support. Things you agree other people may not agree.
I think this is the second time you reference this link. 你相信一个住在中国
的人对共和党和民主党的看法？
OK, good luck with that. 估计他说对共产党有何看法还好些。
you
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: There are too many good things the GOP have done to be listed here. If you
: don't know them, maybe it is time for you to do some research and take a
: look first.
: Also, this analysis from someone in China on 共和党 vs. 民主党 is actually
: spot on:
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article3/NewYork/32635439_0_tp.html
:
: do
|
j**4
发帖数: 10425 | 20 where the fuck do u get ur info? give me a news report that shows obama
doing that?
【在 Y*****2 的大作中提到】
: o8 block科技移民搞老墨移民，太黑
: 显果果培养票仓
|
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c***a
发帖数: 942 | 21 现在共和党早就不是里根时代的共和党了。现在只有茶党，这个极右的党除了说o8做的
不好，就从来没有拿出来过一个逻辑上通的policy。
请您老说一个茶党的有可行性的政策提案。
you
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: There are too many good things the GOP have done to be listed here. If you
: don't know them, maybe it is time for you to do some research and take a
: look first.
: Also, this analysis from someone in China on 共和党 vs. 民主党 is actually
: spot on:
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article3/NewYork/32635439_0_tp.html
:
: do
|
Y*****2
发帖数: 38613 | 22 你什么时候这么理智了
和你说话不用讲道理吧？
【在 j**4 的大作中提到】
: where the fuck do u get ur info? give me a news report that shows obama
: doing that?
|
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 23 好过对猪说人话啊。。。。
我在说人话干什么了？？哎。。。
【在 Y*****2 的大作中提到】
: 对牛谈琴
:
: you
|
j**4
发帖数: 10425 | 24 again, show me a news report (i am not asking u to show presidential records
, just news reports) that says Obama blocks high tech immigration, and
giving immunity to mexicans...
【在 Y*****2 的大作中提到】
: 你什么时候这么理智了
: 和你说话不用讲道理吧？
|
i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 25 Well, I am very impress (and a little surprise) that 一个住在中国的人 seem
to have a better understanding than many of the folks here.
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: You need list more specific points to convince other people to agree with
: you and the party you support. Things you agree other people may not agree.
: I think this is the second time you reference this link. 你相信一个住在中国
: 的人对共和党和民主党的看法？
: OK, good luck with that. 估计他说对共产党有何看法还好些。
:
: you
|
j**4
发帖数: 10425 | 26 remember, politics is subjective. just because u think he has a better
understanding, doesn't mean i think he has a better understanding
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: Well, I am very impress (and a little surprise) that 一个住在中国的人 seem
: to have a better understanding than many of the folks here.
|
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 27 Their parents have to be here with the kid! If they can stay here for more
than a decade with the kid illegally, what can you say?
Easier to get the green card if they are illegal?? I don't think so.
很多中国的非法移民被遣回的时候，因为太久了中国的身份不见了，中国不收的。美国
只好把他们关着。以前是也是有这个原因，中国人来旅游的签证是很难拿。
is
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: You do realize that this actually would promote more parents to send their
: under age kids over here, correct?
: Again, how does this encourage others to legally come to the U.S. when it is
: easier to get the green card if they are illegal?
|
m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 28 1.obama is not running for his 3rd term so why he is doing this?
2. "high tech immigration" what that means? like people crunching numbers?
coding? doing testing on rats? |
j**4
发帖数: 10425 | 29 obama is not giving amnesty to hispanics. He's giving some kind of status (
not a green card) to kids under 18 (i think) that do not have status in this
country. something like that. somehow, this gets contorted on mitbbs,
huaren to be obama giving amnesty to hispanics...
【在 m*******y 的大作中提到】
: 1.obama is not running for his 3rd term so why he is doing this?
: 2. "high tech immigration" what that means? like people crunching numbers?
: coding? doing testing on rats?
|
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 30 You believe the party because you gained a lot of influence from posts like
this from China. I suggest you believe it with your own judgement, and know
why the party's doctrines/policies convince you to believe it, and not from
those words you saw online, or you heard on the street.
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: Well, I am very impress (and a little surprise) that 一个住在中国的人 seem
: to have a better understanding than many of the folks here.
|
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m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 31 dream act
The DREAM Act is a bipartisan legislation ‒ pioneered by Sen. Orin
Hatch [R-UT] and Sen. Richard Durbin [D-IL] ‒ that can solve this
hemorrhaging injustice in our society. Under the rigorous provisions of the
DREAM Act, qualifying undocumented youth would be eligible for a 6 year long
conditional path to citizenship that requires completion of a college
degree or two years of military service.
bipartisan legislation !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(
this
【在 j**4 的大作中提到】
: obama is not giving amnesty to hispanics. He's giving some kind of status (
: not a green card) to kids under 18 (i think) that do not have status in this
: country. something like that. somehow, this gets contorted on mitbbs,
: huaren to be obama giving amnesty to hispanics...
|
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 32 that's what I meant, they won't give the citizenship to someone just crossed
the boarder YESTERDAY.
Of course a lot of conditions must be met.
the
long
【在 m*******y 的大作中提到】
: dream act
: The DREAM Act is a bipartisan legislation ‒ pioneered by Sen. Orin
: Hatch [R-UT] and Sen. Richard Durbin [D-IL] ‒ that can solve this
: hemorrhaging injustice in our society. Under the rigorous provisions of the
: DREAM Act, qualifying undocumented youth would be eligible for a 6 year long
: conditional path to citizenship that requires completion of a college
: degree or two years of military service.
: bipartisan legislation !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:
: (
|
j**4
发帖数: 10425 | 33 and i am just amazed at how all these "highly educated" chinese can turn
this around and say Obama is giving amnesty to hispanics??!! what the fuck
are they smoking??!
crossed
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: that's what I meant, they won't give the citizenship to someone just crossed
: the boarder YESTERDAY.
: Of course a lot of conditions must be met.
:
: the
: long
|
m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 34 xoxo, gossip girl~
【在 j**4 的大作中提到】
: and i am just amazed at how all these "highly educated" chinese can turn
: this around and say Obama is giving amnesty to hispanics??!! what the fuck
: are they smoking??!
:
: crossed
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a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 35 If you find out, let me know. Sometimes highly educated doesn't mean
educated well.
【在 j**4 的大作中提到】
: and i am just amazed at how all these "highly educated" chinese can turn
: this around and say Obama is giving amnesty to hispanics??!! what the fuck
: are they smoking??!
:
: crossed
|
m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 36 definitely does not mean informed well.
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: If you find out, let me know. Sometimes highly educated doesn't mean
: educated well.
|
i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 37 Since Reagan, there are 2 Republican presidents (Bush Sr and Bush Jr.).
Bush Senior (if I can call him that), is very much middle of road which
Clinton continues on.
Bush Jr. goes slightly to the right, but not sure where this 极右 is
referring to. If anything, he follows Reagan more than his father, but I
don't think you consider Reagan as 极右.
Since you mentioned Tea Party, you do realized that one reason that the Tea
party movement is form is that they are dissatisfied with mainstream
Republican (and more against Democrats), correct?
【在 c***a 的大作中提到】
: 现在共和党早就不是里根时代的共和党了。现在只有茶党，这个极右的党除了说o8做的
: 不好，就从来没有拿出来过一个逻辑上通的policy。
: 请您老说一个茶党的有可行性的政策提案。
:
: you
|
j**4
发帖数: 10425 | 38 and u do realize that tea party is ruining republican party right? look at
their favorites, that dumb chick from alaska and another dumb chick from
Iowa??
Tea
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: Since Reagan, there are 2 Republican presidents (Bush Sr and Bush Jr.).
: Bush Senior (if I can call him that), is very much middle of road which
: Clinton continues on.
: Bush Jr. goes slightly to the right, but not sure where this 极右 is
: referring to. If anything, he follows Reagan more than his father, but I
: don't think you consider Reagan as 极右.
: Since you mentioned Tea Party, you do realized that one reason that the Tea
: party movement is form is that they are dissatisfied with mainstream
: Republican (and more against Democrats), correct?
|
d***s
发帖数: 7683 | |
m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 40 sarah is hot
【在 j**4 的大作中提到】
: and u do realize that tea party is ruining republican party right? look at
: their favorites, that dumb chick from alaska and another dumb chick from
: Iowa??
:
: Tea
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a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 41 A lot of people out there think Bush Jr. is one of the worst presidents in
history.
"Editorials in Harper's Magazine, Rolling Stone, The Washington Post, Common
Dreams NewsCenter, and The Nation have referred to Bush as "the worst
president ever"..
The game of thrones from HBO even has his head in the final episode...
Rumor said that he voted for Obama, and he argued with the people who worked
on the poll site. Not sure that's true.
Tea
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: Since Reagan, there are 2 Republican presidents (Bush Sr and Bush Jr.).
: Bush Senior (if I can call him that), is very much middle of road which
: Clinton continues on.
: Bush Jr. goes slightly to the right, but not sure where this 极右 is
: referring to. If anything, he follows Reagan more than his father, but I
: don't think you consider Reagan as 极右.
: Since you mentioned Tea Party, you do realized that one reason that the Tea
: party movement is form is that they are dissatisfied with mainstream
: Republican (and more against Democrats), correct?
|
i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 42 You might want to check the news, this is 10 times bigger than the Dream Act:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/14/obama-expresses-c
(
this
【在 j**4 的大作中提到】
: obama is not giving amnesty to hispanics. He's giving some kind of status (
: not a green card) to kids under 18 (i think) that do not have status in this
: country. something like that. somehow, this gets contorted on mitbbs,
: huaren to be obama giving amnesty to hispanics...
|
i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 43 Again, take a look at what he said on 共和党 vs. 民主党 and tell me that it
is not true.
【在 j**4 的大作中提到】
: remember, politics is subjective. just because u think he has a better
: understanding, doesn't mean i think he has a better understanding
|
Y*****2
发帖数: 38613 | 44 this is exactly my point to begin with
Dr. J. C. ReedWashington DC
There are millions and millions of people who are waiting patiently in
countries throughout the world for permission to legally immigrant to this
country. In addition, there are people who have waited for years before they
were granted permission to legally immigrant to this country. If you
however you want to call it legalize who knows how many illegal immigrants,
you are slapping everyone who has played by the rules and is playing by the
rules in the face. It would in reality be that people who broke the rules
won and people who broke the rules lost. I do not know how anyone can
morally justify this state of affairs.
One of the bedrock principles of our legal system is that criminals do not
benefit from their crimes. On this point, we have laws such as the Son of
Sam law. If we allow any illegal immigrants to remain in this country, they
will have clearly benefited from their breaking our laws. Then how will we
win the future ever be able to enforce immigration laws as we have already
established that we have in at least 2 occasions given amnesty or whatever
you want it.
Act:
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: You might want to check the news, this is 10 times bigger than the Dream Act:
: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/14/obama-expresses-c
:
: (
: this
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m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 45 he is giving a "legal status" to these people. they are here already, and
most of them are not paying tax because employers are hiring them on cash
basis. why not start taxing them? so they can contribute.
Act:
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: You might want to check the news, this is 10 times bigger than the Dream Act:
: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/14/obama-expresses-c
:
: (
: this
|
j**4
发帖数: 10425 | 46 ur point to begin with is that Obama is aginst high tech immigration, and
giving amnesty to hispanics! which are never mentioned in those blogs!
they
,
the
【在 Y*****2 的大作中提到】
: this is exactly my point to begin with
: Dr. J. C. ReedWashington DC
: There are millions and millions of people who are waiting patiently in
: countries throughout the world for permission to legally immigrant to this
: country. In addition, there are people who have waited for years before they
: were granted permission to legally immigrant to this country. If you
: however you want to call it legalize who knows how many illegal immigrants,
: you are slapping everyone who has played by the rules and is playing by the
: rules in the face. It would in reality be that people who broke the rules
: won and people who broke the rules lost. I do not know how anyone can
|
Y*****2
发帖数: 38613 | 47 My point begin with is you are so pretty and sexy
You are nv Shen
【在 j**4 的大作中提到】
: ur point to begin with is that Obama is aginst high tech immigration, and
: giving amnesty to hispanics! which are never mentioned in those blogs!
:
: they
: ,
: the
|
i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 48 Legal or illegal, do you think people on cash business/pay report their full
income?
Do you report all the cash you collect from rent?
I hope I am wrong, but I think many will report sufficient income to get EIC
and other benefits. Would be very lucky if we break-even on tax vs.
benefits paid.
【在 m*******y 的大作中提到】
: he is giving a "legal status" to these people. they are here already, and
: most of them are not paying tax because employers are hiring them on cash
: basis. why not start taxing them? so they can contribute.
:
: Act:
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c***a
发帖数: 942 | 49 禁枪 -- 民主党支持ban on assault weapon.我觉得连发武器完全超过了自卫的需要，
在range玩玩就好了，私人应该禁止。
同性恋 -- 共和党反对最主要是宗教的原因，所以好些共和党的大佬自己是同性恋还要
成天批判同性恋，结果一个大佬在飞机场厕所搞被别人抓到，另一个付钱给一个便衣警
察要求被捅。简直就是无耻加变态。你一个异教徒就不要参合了。
茶党 -- 茶党主要就是反对黑人当总统产生的。这些红脖子们觉得一个黑人当总统让他
们郁闷的不行，只能用爱国的名义来搞种族歧视。你一个中国人去支持茶党的集会估计
还要被干出来呢。
总之这次共和党如果有中间派来参加竞选肯定可以赢得竞选，只可以茶党已经完全绑架
了共和党，所以现在共和党的政策就是一个反对，没有任何合理的提案。
如果你连一个觉得合理的共和党的提案你都说不出来你就别让大家看笑话了。
it
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: Again, take a look at what he said on 共和党 vs. 民主党 and tell me that it
: is not true.
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m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 50 even for minimum wage there s payroll tax.
full
EIC
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: Legal or illegal, do you think people on cash business/pay report their full
: income?
: Do you report all the cash you collect from rent?
: I hope I am wrong, but I think many will report sufficient income to get EIC
: and other benefits. Would be very lucky if we break-even on tax vs.
: benefits paid.
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a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 51 Very good point, the government debt will be reduced..haha
【在 m*******y 的大作中提到】
: he is giving a "legal status" to these people. they are here already, and
: most of them are not paying tax because employers are hiring them on cash
: basis. why not start taxing them? so they can contribute.
:
: Act:
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i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 52 If you are referring to social security, what makes you think they won't ask
for exemption or ask for their money back when they leave.
For those that stay, do you think the social security tax they contributed
will support the retirement benefits that they will receive?
If you are referring other Fed or local withholding, you get those back when
you file your return in April.
【在 m*******y 的大作中提到】
: even for minimum wage there s payroll tax.
:
: full
: EIC
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a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 53 People with legal status and earn cash may not report all their income, but
illegals wanted to change their status, they have to report income and pay
tax.
In the lottery system, those illegals who file tax returns are more likely
to be picked.
I am not sure you know that, a lot of illegals kids are in public schools,
they are already using the benefits.
full
EIC
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: Legal or illegal, do you think people on cash business/pay report their full
: income?
: Do you report all the cash you collect from rent?
: I hope I am wrong, but I think many will report sufficient income to get EIC
: and other benefits. Would be very lucky if we break-even on tax vs.
: benefits paid.
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m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 54
ask
when
what's your status. green card or h1b?
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: If you are referring to social security, what makes you think they won't ask
: for exemption or ask for their money back when they leave.
: For those that stay, do you think the social security tax they contributed
: will support the retirement benefits that they will receive?
: If you are referring other Fed or local withholding, you get those back when
: you file your return in April.
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m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 55 if you are on H1B, i understand, you think they take your spot. if you are
green card or citizen, why would you care. the city runs on mexicans. dont
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i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 56 If people with legal status know how to game the system, you think illegal
don't know how to do it??
but
,
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: People with legal status and earn cash may not report all their income, but
: illegals wanted to change their status, they have to report income and pay
: tax.
: In the lottery system, those illegals who file tax returns are more likely
: to be picked.
: I am not sure you know that, a lot of illegals kids are in public schools,
: they are already using the benefits.
:
: full
: EIC
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Y*****2
发帖数: 38613 | 57 You don't care bc you don't have a kid
【在 m*******y 的大作中提到】
: if you are on H1B, i understand, you think they take your spot. if you are
: green card or citizen, why would you care. the city runs on mexicans. dont
: you wish your neighbors well.
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m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 58
why is that? i d rather my kids live in a society without injustice. His
friend Juan will not come to him and say, bye and come to visit me in mexico
they are kicking me out because how my parents got in.
【在 Y*****2 的大作中提到】
: You don't care bc you don't have a kid
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i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 59 禁枪 - who does it actually ban? Do you think the gangs will not access to
these weapons if there is a ban?
On the other point, take a look at what that comparison says.
Before you criticize GOP's lack of policy, take a read first:
http://www.gop.com/2012-republican-platform_Restoring/
【在 c***a 的大作中提到】
: 禁枪 -- 民主党支持ban on assault weapon.我觉得连发武器完全超过了自卫的需要，
: 在range玩玩就好了，私人应该禁止。
: 同性恋 -- 共和党反对最主要是宗教的原因，所以好些共和党的大佬自己是同性恋还要
: 成天批判同性恋，结果一个大佬在飞机场厕所搞被别人抓到，另一个付钱给一个便衣警
: 察要求被捅。简直就是无耻加变态。你一个异教徒就不要参合了。
: 茶党 -- 茶党主要就是反对黑人当总统产生的。这些红脖子们觉得一个黑人当总统让他
: 们郁闷的不行，只能用爱国的名义来搞种族歧视。你一个中国人去支持茶党的集会估计
: 还要被干出来呢。
: 总之这次共和党如果有中间派来参加竞选肯定可以赢得竞选，只可以茶党已经完全绑架
: 了共和党，所以现在共和党的政策就是一个反对，没有任何合理的提案。
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a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 60 说一说见过的美国人，那时候中国和美国撞飞机，挺大矛盾的，在电梯里碰到了一个黑
人女教授的，半笑半认真，如果美国政府把中国人集中了，你来我家吧。
一个很好的多年老师加朋友，地道美国出生白人，无条件亲自上庭帮一个没身份的中国
人拿身份，最后成功了。但是那个中国人跟他说的是谎话。。后来他知道了对我说：
He used me..他去教堂，经常说看到很多世界各地来的人去教堂很欣慰。
这些都是对移民都有一种非常平等的对待，倒是新来的意见比较大。
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: If people with legal status know how to game the system, you think illegal
: don't know how to do it??
:
: but
: ,
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i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 61 And do you think this 没身份的中国人拿身份后 reports to the IRS all of his
cash income?
If you actually think that the deficit will be reduce after this Act, time
to come out of your fantasy land.
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: 说一说见过的美国人，那时候中国和美国撞飞机，挺大矛盾的，在电梯里碰到了一个黑
: 人女教授的，半笑半认真，如果美国政府把中国人集中了，你来我家吧。
: 一个很好的多年老师加朋友，地道美国出生白人，无条件亲自上庭帮一个没身份的中国
: 人拿身份，最后成功了。但是那个中国人跟他说的是谎话。。后来他知道了对我说：
: He used me..他去教堂，经常说看到很多世界各地来的人去教堂很欣慰。
: 这些都是对移民都有一种非常平等的对待，倒是新来的意见比较大。
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Y*****2
发帖数: 38613 | 62 Don't you read the news?
Google Virginia education board decision yesterday
Your future kid is already discriminate against NOW
mexico
【在 m*******y 的大作中提到】
:
: why is that? i d rather my kids live in a society without injustice. His
: friend Juan will not come to him and say, bye and come to visit me in mexico
: they are kicking me out because how my parents got in.
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a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 63 It's not a fantasy, it's about how you treat the people around you. A lot of
extreme right whites wanted pure white race in America, that's why they are
so upset about the new comers. And I think you do belong to a minority
group on this land, when things happened I don't think these extreme group
will protect you as your own race/minority do.
Deficit reduced or not, it's another different issue and arguable, blaming
people don't report tax is not the main issue here. When it comes down to
the bottom line, are you really worry about the deficit? and that matters to
you that much? Or these people just are getting the unfair portion of
social welfare that makes you so unbalanced? Do you have a strong religion
believe as those extreme right whites?
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: And do you think this 没身份的中国人拿身份后 reports to the IRS all of his
: cash income?
: If you actually think that the deficit will be reduce after this Act, time
: to come out of your fantasy land.
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c***a
发帖数: 942 | 64 照你这种说法法律也不需要了啊，你以为有了法律ganster就不犯罪了吗。我忘了谁说
的，we should at least try... at least make it difficulty for anyone to
obtain the assault weapon. It should be illegal for anyone to carry assault
weapon.
你还是没有回答我的问题。你如果细致的读过你发的link，说说你觉得其中会最最有
effective，最最实际可行性的政策是什么。
共和党说医疗改革是必须的，但是他们没有政策，反对他们自己人mitt在麻省实行的政
策。
共和党说一定要reduce deficit，但是paul的提案没有一个经济学家说是可行的，而且
都是math上面不可能。
共和党说要减税，通过close loophole来抵消。唯一的办法就是把公司医疗保险作为收
入，限制贷款的deduction额度。这个是给富人减税，给中产加税。
to
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: 禁枪 - who does it actually ban? Do you think the gangs will not access to
: these weapons if there is a ban?
: On the other point, take a look at what that comparison says.
: Before you criticize GOP's lack of policy, take a read first:
: http://www.gop.com/2012-republican-platform_Restoring/
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i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 65 Do you actually think that Chinese gets minority status in America???
We are a minority group, but we don't get that benefit. And this new Act
won't give that to us.
BTW, you might want to start reading all those complains on AA.
of
are
to
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: It's not a fantasy, it's about how you treat the people around you. A lot of
: extreme right whites wanted pure white race in America, that's why they are
: so upset about the new comers. And I think you do belong to a minority
: group on this land, when things happened I don't think these extreme group
: will protect you as your own race/minority do.
: Deficit reduced or not, it's another different issue and arguable, blaming
: people don't report tax is not the main issue here. When it comes down to
: the bottom line, are you really worry about the deficit? and that matters to
: you that much? Or these people just are getting the unfair portion of
: social welfare that makes you so unbalanced? Do you have a strong religion
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a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 66 Do you really think the law will only specified "hispanic"??? It mentions it
because it's largest portion of voters have the right to vote..
If illegals get it, every race should get it. I didn't read the bill, but
that's the way it should be.
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: Do you actually think that Chinese gets minority status in America???
: We are a minority group, but we don't get that benefit. And this new Act
: won't give that to us.
: BTW, you might want to start reading all those complains on AA.
:
: of
: are
: to
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m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 67
my future kids will not need to fight for the marginal advantage.
【在 Y*****2 的大作中提到】
: Don't you read the news?
: Google Virginia education board decision yesterday
: Your future kid is already discriminate against NOW
:
: mexico
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m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 68
you just dont get it. it is not about this or that benefits, those are minor
issues. it is about human rights. will we really need those benefits? if
you are a successful asian, you should be the one to give, not to take.
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: Do you actually think that Chinese gets minority status in America???
: We are a minority group, but we don't get that benefit. And this new Act
: won't give that to us.
: BTW, you might want to start reading all those complains on AA.
:
: of
: are
: to
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r******s
发帖数: 1388 | 69 支持大赦，他们犯的罪和受的苦难比起来，根本微不足道，政府要为每一个辛勤的苦命
人撑腰，让他们有正常人的权利。
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: 又不见了？？
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t1/NewYork/32650327_0_1.html
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i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 70 Sorry, I really don't get how encouraging people to come/stay here illegally
as more humane than say increasing quota for legal ones so their loves can
join them here easier.
By the way, we are paying a lot tax, not sure what taking you are referring
to.
minor
【在 m*******y 的大作中提到】
:
: you just dont get it. it is not about this or that benefits, those are minor
: issues. it is about human rights. will we really need those benefits? if
: you are a successful asian, you should be the one to give, not to take.
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m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 71
illegally
can
referring
bless your heart
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: Sorry, I really don't get how encouraging people to come/stay here illegally
: as more humane than say increasing quota for legal ones so their loves can
: join them here easier.
: By the way, we are paying a lot tax, not sure what taking you are referring
: to.
:
: minor
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i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 72 "The Obama administration said on Wednesday that it opposes the House bill,
and would rather deal with a comprehensive immigration bill that covers
retaining talent, increased enforcement of immigration laws, and the
creation of a pathway toward citizenship for illegal immigrants that have
been in the country for years."
http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/270135-hous
【在 j**4 的大作中提到】
: ur point to begin with is that Obama is aginst high tech immigration, and
: giving amnesty to hispanics! which are never mentioned in those blogs!
:
: they
: ,
: the
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s**********y
发帖数: 353 | 73 http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/270135-hous
The Obama administration said on Wednesday that it opposes the House bill,
and would rather deal with a comprehensive immigration bill that covers
retaining talent, increased enforcement of immigration laws, and the
creation of a pathway toward citizenship for illegal immigrants that have
been in the country for years.
【在 j**4 的大作中提到】
: ur point to begin with is that Obama is aginst high tech immigration, and
: giving amnesty to hispanics! which are never mentioned in those blogs!
:
: they
: ,
: the
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i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 74 I guess we pigs do think alike. Haha...
【在 s**********y 的大作中提到】
: http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/270135-hous
: The Obama administration said on Wednesday that it opposes the House bill,
: and would rather deal with a comprehensive immigration bill that covers
: retaining talent, increased enforcement of immigration laws, and the
: creation of a pathway toward citizenship for illegal immigrants that have
: been in the country for years.
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t**********3
发帖数: 12623 | 75 Last time I checked, it was the Democrats that were against health insurance
provider compete across state lines.
What's the Democrats' plan? Massive government take-over?
assault
【在 c***a 的大作中提到】
: 照你这种说法法律也不需要了啊，你以为有了法律ganster就不犯罪了吗。我忘了谁说
: 的，we should at least try... at least make it difficulty for anyone to
: obtain the assault weapon. It should be illegal for anyone to carry assault
: weapon.
: 你还是没有回答我的问题。你如果细致的读过你发的link，说说你觉得其中会最最有
: effective，最最实际可行性的政策是什么。
: 共和党说医疗改革是必须的，但是他们没有政策，反对他们自己人mitt在麻省实行的政
: 策。
: 共和党说一定要reduce deficit，但是paul的提案没有一个经济学家说是可行的，而且
: 都是math上面不可能。
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