dz
发帖数: 17 | |
i**********2
发帖数: 1114 | 2 My application was submitted to homeland security. I was told there was no
expiration day on I-94. Apparently,the person in homeland security does NOT
know what he/she was doing.
You also have to follow up with the army recruiting officer since they won't
contact you if there was any problem in your application. |
x****i
发帖数: 169 | 3 刚通知让去体检，不知道这个意味着什么，算是办到什么程度了呢？ |
x****i
发帖数: 169 | 4 刚通知让去体检，不知道这个意味着什么，算是办到什么程度了呢？ |
x****i
发帖数: 169 | 5 这个program现在都没人讨论了啊，前阵还热火朝天的呢，版上有没有谁办成了的？ |
r******i
发帖数: 674 | 6 因为被招募后,进入68W编队, 该编队已经进入战斗序列.
【在 x****i 的大作中提到】
: 这个program现在都没人讨论了啊，前阵还热火朝天的呢，版上有没有谁办成了的？
|
z**b
发帖数: 293 | 7 Where is the source come from?
【在 r******i 的大作中提到】
: 因为被招募后,进入68W编队, 该编队已经进入战斗序列.
|
r******i
发帖数: 674 | 8 I got it from someone who was enlisted in April.
【在 z**b 的大作中提到】
: Where is the source come from?
|
b**********a
发帖数: 62 | 9 It is said only two people were enlisted by the end of May. In the future
more people will be enlisted because they are in the process. |
i**********2
发帖数: 1114 | 10 you mean nurses 进入战斗序列?
【在 r******i 的大作中提到】
: 因为被招募后,进入68W编队, 该编队已经进入战斗序列.
|
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r******i
发帖数: 674 | 11 主要任务是对火线上负伤的人员进行紧急包扎,处理,等待救护队或者直升机的救援.
是和士兵一起在阵地上的.
【在 i**********2 的大作中提到】
: you mean nurses 进入战斗序列?
|
x****i
发帖数: 169 | 12 我申请的是reserve，应该不会那么容易active吧？ |
r******i
发帖数: 674 | 13 reserve翻译过来就是预备役. active的不够用,就让预备的上. 预备预备,就是随时准
备上,但又不知什么时候.就像有个笑话.楼上的邻居老是半夜回家,然后仍鞋子,搞的人
家睡不了觉.有一天,他回来,就仍了一只了,没有仍另外一只,害的楼下的邻居一夜没有
睡, 预备着第二只的到来.
预备役和现役是归属一个编队. 服完4年军役之后, 有义务被部队再次招回服役,在需要你的时候. 即使你已经服完役了.
【在 x****i 的大作中提到】
: 我申请的是reserve，应该不会那么容易active吧？
|
i**********2
发帖数: 1114 | 14 that sounds like combat medic. is your friend a RN? if RN gonna work as a
combat medic, I am going for sure. Pls clarify.Thanks.
【在 r******i 的大作中提到】
: 主要任务是对火线上负伤的人员进行紧急包扎,处理,等待救护队或者直升机的救援.
: 是和士兵一起在阵地上的.
|
z**b
发帖数: 293 | 15 This sounds like World War II, not modern war. Now day the most dangerous
threaten is suicide bomber in Iraq.
【在 r******i 的大作中提到】
: 主要任务是对火线上负伤的人员进行紧急包扎,处理,等待救护队或者直升机的救援.
: 是和士兵一起在阵地上的.
|
i**********2
发帖数: 1114 | 16 I meant i am NOT going for sure.
【在 i**********2 的大作中提到】
: that sounds like combat medic. is your friend a RN? if RN gonna work as a
: combat medic, I am going for sure. Pls clarify.Thanks.
|
r******i
发帖数: 674 | 17 of course, he is RN, BSN. only RN is eligible for 68W in MAVNI program.
还有一个是中国人不是RN，被搞到别的连队。 据他自己说，他的岗位已经牺牲270名战
士。下面是征兵潜规则：
1。美国人不干的岗位，去找有绿卡的新移民
2。有绿卡的不干的岗位，去找MAVNI
3。 公民是给的。如果你想当几年兵就是不花钱上几年学，那就错了，这样的好事不会
论上MAVNI。
4。军人的最基本的概念是拿自己的生命作为资本换取前途。服从命令是天职。这是别
的行业没有的。
下面是他们的政讯处的领导的激励性质的讲话，这种忽悠人的讲话，有头脑的人都会分
析着听。 If you want some inspiration for how high you can go in the Army
, consider the case of John Shalikashvili. He was born in Poland, came to
the US as a refugee, enlisted in the Army as a priv
【在 i**********2 的大作中提到】
: that sounds like combat medic. is your friend a RN? if RN gonna work as a
: combat medic, I am going for sure. Pls clarify.Thanks.
|
b**********a
发帖数: 62 | 18 For reserve, you will serve 6 years. For active is 3 years.
If you are active, first and half year is at Texas. Then you can choose
which place you want to go.
Since world war II, only one RN was killed. She was not killed at combative
field but the other field. |
r******i
发帖数: 674 | 19 光上个月在伊拉克的军诊所,被一个美国士兵打死的医护人员就有5个,不知道你怎么统
计的
combative
【在 b**********a 的大作中提到】
: For reserve, you will serve 6 years. For active is 3 years.
: If you are active, first and half year is at Texas. Then you can choose
: which place you want to go.
: Since world war II, only one RN was killed. She was not killed at combative
: field but the other field.
|
b**********a
发帖数: 62 | |
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r******i
发帖数: 674 | 21 随你便,没有人拦你送*.
【在 b**********a 的大作中提到】
: They are not RN
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N***a
发帖数: 149 | 22 How did you get these information?
The basic traing will start this september or Octorber for who were enlisted
in April or May.
They will have 12 weeks of basic training then will take 16 weeks of
professional training.
That is why I am doubting what you said.
Then you said in that guy's position has 270 soliders died.-- I am doubting
too because that even you have reserved a job for Non-RN, nobody will tell
you what exactly you will do.
OK, that is what I known so far.
Just try to discuss here
【在 r******i 的大作中提到】
: of course, he is RN, BSN. only RN is eligible for 68W in MAVNI program.
: 还有一个是中国人不是RN，被搞到别的连队。 据他自己说，他的岗位已经牺牲270名战
: 士。下面是征兵潜规则：
: 1。美国人不干的岗位，去找有绿卡的新移民
: 2。有绿卡的不干的岗位，去找MAVNI
: 3。 公民是给的。如果你想当几年兵就是不花钱上几年学，那就错了，这样的好事不会
: 论上MAVNI。
: 4。军人的最基本的概念是拿自己的生命作为资本换取前途。服从命令是天职。这是别
: 的行业没有的。
: 下面是他们的政讯处的领导的激励性质的讲话，这种忽悠人的讲话，有头脑的人都会分
|
x****i
发帖数: 169 | 23 美国军队的传统，女人是不进入combat区的，运输兵除外，这个传统迄今为止还没有改
变过。Ranfulai说的那些包扎伤口、扎针、止血之类的工作是有专门的medical
soldier做的，我们ICU有个CA退伍之前就是做这个的，他一年半前刚从伊拉克回来，据
说这个兵种也比较危险，但是他们部队是没有RN的。
RN去前线也主要在医院工作，相对还是安全的，RN死亡在美军历史上确实只有一例，当
然受伤的估计不少，前不久我一个中国朋友说起她听说过前线RN帮忙背伤病受伤的。这
个我听到已经很寒了，像我们中国女孩子这种娇小的身材，很难想像我们要背伤兵会怎
么样...... |
z**b
发帖数: 293 | 24 有一天，妈妈把小马叫到身边说：“小马，你已经长大了，可以帮妈妈做事了。今天你
把这袋粮食送到河对岸的村子里去吧。”
小马非常高兴地答应了。他驮着粮食飞快地来到了小河边。可是河上没有桥，只能自己
淌过去。可又不知道河水有多深呢？犹豫中的小马一抬头，看见了正在不远处吃草的牛
伯伯。小马赶紧跑过去问到：“牛伯伯，您知道那河里的水深不深呀？”
牛伯伯挺起他那高大的身体笑着说：“不深，不深。才到我的小腿。”小马高兴地跑回
河边准备淌过河去。他刚一迈腿，忽然听见一个声音说：“小马，小马别下去，这河可
深啦。”小马低头一看，原来是小松鼠。小松鼠翘着她的漂亮的尾巴，睁者圆圆的眼睛
，很认真地说：“前两天我的一个伙伴不小心掉进了河里，河水就把他卷走了。”小马
一听没主意了。牛伯伯说河水浅，小松鼠说河水深，这可怎么办呀？只好回去问妈妈。
马妈妈老远地就看见小马低着头驮着粮食又回来了。心想他一定是遇到困难了，就迎过
去问小马。小马哭着把牛伯伯和小松鼠的话告诉了妈妈。妈妈安慰小马说：“没关系，
咱们一起去看看吧。”
小马和妈妈又一次来到河边，妈妈这回让小马自己去试探一下河水有多深。小马小心地
试探着，一步一步 |
t*****r
发帖数: 1765 | 25 if anyone still interested in this
just ask this man
he is an 退伍兵 in mitbbs
but just got a call and back to the army
l*******[email protected] |
r******i
发帖数: 674 | 26 斑竹理他们干什么? 他们想小马过河,自己试试嘛. 当几年兵,读几年书,退伍了,也毕业
了.占了个大便宜.因为我是预备役,我不打仗.....
【在 t*****r 的大作中提到】
: if anyone still interested in this
: just ask this man
: he is an 退伍兵 in mitbbs
: but just got a call and back to the army
: l*******[email protected]
|
x****i
发帖数: 169 | 27 论坛就是大家分享信息，发表观点的地方，有不同的观点和声音是好事儿，谢谢
ranfulai分享的你朋友的经验，也谢谢版主提供的朋友信息，但是请大家的言行还是不
要带有个人攻击的色彩。 |
T**T
发帖数: 70 | 28 You are so wrong, it makes want to cry a little...
First, 68W is open to everyone as long as you get the required line score in
ASVAB and there are slots available. And last time I check, there were 30+
available. Although 68W is called "health care specialist", it is basically
combat medic, so you got that one right. When you are assigned to a
stateside station, you will probably be in a military medical facility. And
when you get deployed to Afghanistan or Iraq, there is a good, if not
perfect
【在 r******i 的大作中提到】
: of course, he is RN, BSN. only RN is eligible for 68W in MAVNI program.
: 还有一个是中国人不是RN，被搞到别的连队。 据他自己说，他的岗位已经牺牲270名战
: 士。下面是征兵潜规则：
: 1。美国人不干的岗位，去找有绿卡的新移民
: 2。有绿卡的不干的岗位，去找MAVNI
: 3。 公民是给的。如果你想当几年兵就是不花钱上几年学，那就错了，这样的好事不会
: 论上MAVNI。
: 4。军人的最基本的概念是拿自己的生命作为资本换取前途。服从命令是天职。这是别
: 的行业没有的。
: 下面是他们的政讯处的领导的激励性质的讲话，这种忽悠人的讲话，有头脑的人都会分
|
r******i
发帖数: 674 | 29 你说的再好，只要是出美国，我就是不去。
in
+
basically
And
with
【在 T**T 的大作中提到】
: You are so wrong, it makes want to cry a little...
: First, 68W is open to everyone as long as you get the required line score in
: ASVAB and there are slots available. And last time I check, there were 30+
: available. Although 68W is called "health care specialist", it is basically
: combat medic, so you got that one right. When you are assigned to a
: stateside station, you will probably be in a military medical facility. And
: when you get deployed to Afghanistan or Iraq, there is a good, if not
: perfect
|
x****i
发帖数: 169 | 30 刚够查了下，这个68W不是Nurse Corp，主要成员是soldier medic，似乎跟Marvni护士
的path不太一只吧？我要是理解有误，欢迎大家指正！
in
+
basically
And
with
【在 T**T 的大作中提到】
: You are so wrong, it makes want to cry a little...
: First, 68W is open to everyone as long as you get the required line score in
: ASVAB and there are slots available. And last time I check, there were 30+
: available. Although 68W is called "health care specialist", it is basically
: combat medic, so you got that one right. When you are assigned to a
: stateside station, you will probably be in a military medical facility. And
: when you get deployed to Afghanistan or Iraq, there is a good, if not
: perfect
|
|
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T**T
发帖数: 70 | 31 Yes, you are right. 68W is with medical corps. As you may know, there are
two routes for mavni - HCP (Doctors and nurses) and Linguist. If you are an
RN, you may want to take the former one. As a HCP you can go to the army
reserve, however as far as I know, they don't have any slots left available
for this fiscal year. But there should be slots opening up when the FY 2010
starts on Oct 1, 2009. If you are willing to go on active duty, however,
they are still taking applications. I doubt you woul
【在 x****i 的大作中提到】
: 刚够查了下，这个68W不是Nurse Corp，主要成员是soldier medic，似乎跟Marvni护士
: 的path不太一只吧？我要是理解有误，欢迎大家指正！
:
: in
: +
: basically
: And
: with
|
r******i
发帖数: 674 | 32 linguist的你发挥你的语言特长了吗, 没有嘛,还不是一样要么当急救员,要么运输,修
机器,还有就是排炸弹, 哪一样也不要你的语言优势. RN也一样, 只是个入门的口号.
an
available
2010
Linguist
【在 T**T 的大作中提到】
: Yes, you are right. 68W is with medical corps. As you may know, there are
: two routes for mavni - HCP (Doctors and nurses) and Linguist. If you are an
: RN, you may want to take the former one. As a HCP you can go to the army
: reserve, however as far as I know, they don't have any slots left available
: for this fiscal year. But there should be slots opening up when the FY 2010
: starts on Oct 1, 2009. If you are willing to go on active duty, however,
: they are still taking applications. I doubt you woul
|
x****i
发帖数: 169 | 33 我对美国军队了解的还是太有限了，虽然申请了Marvni，心情还是很忐忑的。我个人是
不考虑离开家人和孩子的，所以只申请了reserve,今年要是没有quota就不去了，现役
我绝对不会去的，再苦再难一家人也要在一起。现在刚刚约了体检，可能我的申请路还
很长，距离终点还很远，有消息我会在这里分享的。我是对军队CRNA有兴趣的，也明确
告诉recruiter我的申请目标了，等回头正式的contract negotiation开始的时候，我
也会提出要求进入non-deployable unit的要求，我的底线是家庭团聚，所以不在乎他
们不签我。我们医院有个护士是non-deployable unit的，不过他很早加入的，也许现
在想有这么好的contract不容易了，但是最近还有个同事签的reserve contract写进了
最多deploy 90 days的条款。他说基本上有这样的条款就不会被外派了，因为军队实在
不合算去折腾你，呵呵！ |
x****i
发帖数: 169 | 34 关于您提到的no slots available for reserve this year，请问这个是整个army一期
规划的么？我的recruiter没提到过这个，她还说我申请的那个在San Antonio的unit现
在有ICU RN的openning，难道这个地方上说了也不算，像绿卡似的要一年一年全国来规
划？
an
available
2010
Linguist
【在 T**T 的大作中提到】
: Yes, you are right. 68W is with medical corps. As you may know, there are
: two routes for mavni - HCP (Doctors and nurses) and Linguist. If you are an
: RN, you may want to take the former one. As a HCP you can go to the army
: reserve, however as far as I know, they don't have any slots left available
: for this fiscal year. But there should be slots opening up when the FY 2010
: starts on Oct 1, 2009. If you are willing to go on active duty, however,
: they are still taking applications. I doubt you woul
|
T**T
发帖数: 70 | 35 Speaking chinese is not a specailty to me (because I am chinese) but to the
Army, if they want to recruit me because of it, but decide to not use it,
fine, doesn't hurt me. And although MOS that doesn't require a security
clearance are mostly heavy duty, there are still some good choices like in
branch 68. I know someone's getting 68P radiologist, and I my self took 68S
preventive medicine SP. Anyways, I am probably boring everyone here since
most of you are going to adopt the HCP route and goin
【在 r******i 的大作中提到】
: linguist的你发挥你的语言特长了吗, 没有嘛,还不是一样要么当急救员,要么运输,修
: 机器,还有就是排炸弹, 哪一样也不要你的语言优势. RN也一样, 只是个入门的口号.
:
: an
: available
: 2010
: Linguist
|
x****i
发帖数: 169 | 36 HCP reserve只要少数几个specialty的护士（OR、ICU），并不见得适用于这里的大多
数人。你人已经在军队里了，信息非常一手，很有用，谢谢分享。
请问Marvni办国籍下来要多久呢？是什么养的过程呢？
the
68S
relevant
【在 T**T 的大作中提到】
: Speaking chinese is not a specailty to me (because I am chinese) but to the
: Army, if they want to recruit me because of it, but decide to not use it,
: fine, doesn't hurt me. And although MOS that doesn't require a security
: clearance are mostly heavy duty, there are still some good choices like in
: branch 68. I know someone's getting 68P radiologist, and I my self took 68S
: preventive medicine SP. Anyways, I am probably boring everyone here since
: most of you are going to adopt the HCP route and goin
|
T**T
发帖数: 70 | 37 Well, then you should take your recruiter's words over me. To my best
understandig, the way they are recruiting RN is that even if there is no
immediate opening in the unit you are applying or maybe army-wide, you can
still be selected as an "alternate" meaning once there is an opening, you
will be filling that position. You can consult with your recruiter about the
details.
【在 x****i 的大作中提到】
: 关于您提到的no slots available for reserve this year，请问这个是整个army一期
: 规划的么？我的recruiter没提到过这个，她还说我申请的那个在San Antonio的unit现
: 在有ICU RN的openning，难道这个地方上说了也不算，像绿卡似的要一年一年全国来规
: 划？
:
: an
: available
: 2010
: Linguist
|
T**T
发帖数: 70 | 38 Direct quote from the person that makes policies for the MAVNI program.
"MAVNIs can apply for US citizenship on the first day they are on active
duty, and by law, USCIS must process their applications within six months."
For reserve, I would assume you can apply once you completed your first
drill. And she also says that USCIS is planning on interviewing MAVNIs and
swearing them in on the last week of basic training, which is basically the
9th week. You will need to have a JAG lawyer sign a form
【在 x****i 的大作中提到】
: HCP reserve只要少数几个specialty的护士（OR、ICU），并不见得适用于这里的大多
: 数人。你人已经在军队里了，信息非常一手，很有用，谢谢分享。
: 请问Marvni办国籍下来要多久呢？是什么养的过程呢？
:
: the
: 68S
: relevant
|
t*****r
发帖数: 1765 | 39 honorable service 是什么概念
有具体说明么 |
r******i
发帖数: 674 | 40 呵呵, 这个问题问的好. 可能是不能有non-deplorable的条款.
【在 t*****r 的大作中提到】
: honorable service 是什么概念
: 有具体说明么
|
|
|
r******i
发帖数: 674 | 41 你既然知道不适用于这里的大多数人.你还在前面的帖子里面问怎么没有以前那么热了.
还有,你怎么知道你是specialtyICU. 你外行加速毕业,在ICU工作就算speciality吗.难
道不参加什么考试,拿给证书什么的?谢谢.
【在 x****i 的大作中提到】
: HCP reserve只要少数几个specialty的护士（OR、ICU），并不见得适用于这里的大多
: 数人。你人已经在军队里了，信息非常一手，很有用，谢谢分享。
: 请问Marvni办国籍下来要多久呢？是什么养的过程呢？
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T**T
发帖数: 70 | 42 As a general rule, a Soldier is considered to be serving honorably unless a
decision has been made, either by the Soldier’s commander or a court
martial, to discharge him/her under less than honorable conditions.
In the rare cases where the character of a Soldier’s service is
questionable, ONLY the Soldier’s commander can decide this issue, and the
sole criterion for the decision is: If the Soldier were being discharged
today, based on his/her record, what type of discharge would the Soldier
r
【在 t*****r 的大作中提到】
: honorable service 是什么概念
: 有具体说明么
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t*****r
发帖数: 1765 | 43 Thanks
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【在 T**T 的大作中提到】
: As a general rule, a Soldier is considered to be serving honorably unless a
: decision has been made, either by the Soldier’s commander or a court
: martial, to discharge him/her under less than honorable conditions.
: In the rare cases where the character of a Soldier’s service is
: questionable, ONLY the Soldier’s commander can decide this issue, and the
: sole criterion for the decision is: If the Soldier were being discharged
: today, based on his/her record, what type of discharge would the Soldier
: r
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