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Nursing版 - NP Salary Negotiation
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说说我知道的,接触过的NP国内医学院毕业的RN们,你们是考BOARD了还是上NP了
这个护士版风气这么差请教一下NP的入学INTERVIEW?
终于下决心报名NP了!请教姐妹们RN-MSN问题
NP 工作身份终于注册了要考CCRN!
分家分家我先生终于录取了top 10 CRNA program!
说说NP还有PA的教育的主要区别MSN, the only way right now
考医师执照还是护士麻醉师?请问麻醉护士和NP的出路?我刚考了GRE.
简单说一下麻醉护士的申请一般报考CCRN有什么要求
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l**n
发帖数: 60
1
http://allnurses.com/nurse-practitioners-np/negotiating-my-sala
上面的NP才毕业在南加州,好像情形并不那么乐观/ 南加州的RN有人能够连续四年每年
二十万美金税后!而且RN六十刀一个小时在南加州不是很难, 我自己就拿到过。 不知
道有的NP的优越感从何而来。
l**n
发帖数: 60
2
Another Psych NP also got an offer in South Texas. $175k/year with all
loans paid off with a 2 year commitment.
That sounds a bit more reasonable BUT..have you ever actually BEEN to South
Texas??? Salaries are inflated in that area for a big reason. It's very near
the border, poverty is horrendous and resources are very limited. School
districts are struggling and they have a hard time attracting providers of
all types to that area so they have to inflate the salaries.
You are not pulling up real world normal people salaries in your "salary
surveys." None of us are going to report salaries in that range because most
of us prefer our nice suburbs where our kids go to good schools and pretty
much none of us are going to want to work 12-16 hr days.
http://allnurses.com/nurse-practitioners-np/np-salaries-locatio
l**n
发帖数: 60
3
在美国,给你多少钱,你就担负多少责任和STRESS,说得NP工作不需要有任何责任和负
担一样。光说NP挣多少钱,不说说NP的风险,如果被病人告咋办。我们医院一个NP就是
犯了错误,结果在被调查,现在来帮我们RN打杂,不能做NP的工作,这还是幸亏我们医
院有工会保护,不然直接就被FIRE掉了。和UCLA附属医院的NP还有USC附属医院的NP一
起工作过,他们在我上班的地方
做PER DIEM RN,工资就是RN的工资,如果NP真的待遇那么好,还来做什么PER DIEM RN.
不要给我说什么NP OVERTIME多,UCLA雇佣那么多NP,基本上都没有OVERTIME,有
OVERTIME的NP是百分之一的概率。而且很多时候工资高一点的NP都是帮私人医生打工或
者医疗GROUP,这些地方一般都福利不行。有的NP把自己没有任何福利的15万美金一年
的工资拿出来说话,15万美金一年还不如福利好的RN的十万一年呢。而且在美国就是医
生现在都是帮医疗集团和保险公司挣钱的工具。还见过很多NP读出来压根就不做NP,还
是在做BEDSIDE RN。我们医院的NP不去KAISER做NP,就是因为15分钟一个病人,太累太
忙了,不如在我们医院干,虽然钱少一点,但是没有那么辛苦。做RN的谁不认识几个NP
,有的NP就是大忽悠,误导人。以为做了NP就高人一等了,在美国,医生也就那么回事
情,还不要说NP了。大家都是医疗行业上班的,谁还不知道谁啊。我们一个同事人家就
是RN,一个人上班,人家在SAN MARINO买HOUSE,很多医生一样在SAN MARINO买不起房
子。 以后NP想得瑟自己工资高的,直接贴工资单,光是嘴巴上下一动吹牛,谁不会。
其实NP挣得钱,大家都知道,医生雇佣NP就是为了节省钱,还要再压一下价钱,就是MD
的工资乘以70%为上限。
The bottom line is NPs CAN make great money. But please don't come on here
before you are even an NP and bait us all with "I know NPs making $220K"
when you've never even worked as an NP AND you are quoting stats from NP
that are not a true salary profile. Please come back here and report on an
NP who is working a standard 40 hrs per week with maybe 4-6 hrs of admin
time and THEN we will all ooh and ahh over those stats. Until then, you are
simply quoting the salary rate for someone who works a TON of overtime and
heck, even a janitor can crank in great money if they are working 16 hr days
. Your numbers do not impress me at all.
To the psych NPs making $150K...that's AWESOME and I *do* know you are
earning every single dime and I do know those numbers reflect the hard work
and stress of your job. Thanks and we need more of you!
http://allnurses.com/nurse-practitioners-np/np-salaries-locatio
l**n
发帖数: 60
4
I am a recent FNP graduate (as of last December) and went on a full job hunt
on my last semester of school. As a nurse I was making 80k a year or $38 an
hour (with shift differential for when I worked weekends or holidays). I
made it a point to interview in 16 different places as I didn't really know
what specialty I wanted to work in (and kind of still don't). I tried my
best to negotiate but people still looked at me like I was completely insane
. I'm in Florida and according to salary.com the average pay is 97k. I
really wasn't shooting for the stars, I was only requiring 90k. I had to
apply to 21 places to get 16 interviews (don't really know why I was fixated
on 16). All of them offered me a job. Unfortunately, not one actually
matched what I wanted (pay and benefits). As an adult pcp the best offer I
received was 90k without having benefits. As family pcp it was 86k with
benefits seeing 30-35 patients a day. In pediatrics specialty, the best
offer was 75 which went up to 80 with negotiations and had benefits but it
required traveling and rounding in multiple hospitals. Anyways, the best
offer i was able to receive was 84k in oncology, seeing 15 patients a day,
with every other Friday off, great benefits, and 8 hour days. To be quite
honest, I'm still disappointed and disillusioned. I'm going to keep this job
for one year and then try again. If I don't receive a significant offer
then I'm going back to nursing. The only way I would stay for mediocre pay
is if Florida was to magically change and NP's get more autonomy. I'm sorry
if this is a crappy answer but I'm ok with my nursing pay for only 3 days a
week.
http://allnurses.com/nurse-practitioners-np/np-salaries-locatio
l**n
发帖数: 60
5
Specialty: I'm an FNP working for an Internal Medicine physician. It's a
good mix of PCP work, dealing with complex patients with chronic diseases,
and there's also some acute treatments sprinkled in like suturing and
abscess removal. I also do some inpatient rounding but it's part of my
normal business day. It's 5 days a week, no weekends, no call. 9-530 or 6.
Salary: When I first was given the contract it was $90k with full benefits
and a very nice incentive bonus structure. Shortly before starting though,
the local hospitals starting hiring NP's for a variety of positions, with
salaries in the low to mid $100k. He got wind of this and preemptively
bumped me up to $108k with the same benefits and bonuses. The bonus
structure is such that if you really bust your tail you can double your
salary. I expect my first year to yield between $30k-$40k.
Location: Texas
http://allnurses.com/nurse-practitioners-np/np-salaries-locatio
l**n
发帖数: 60
6
I find seeing 4 puts an hour for a 12 hr day highly unlikely (in a clinic
setting). You have charts to review, meds, histories and then there is the
interaction with the patients. If the patients were muzzled and not allowed
to talk maybe you could poke your head in the door and be out to the next
patient. Perhaps put all the patients in the same room and pass out
prescriptions. Plus the charting!! I am fast and can be in and out of most
rooms in a few minutes, but then I have a few patients who are needy and
bring family members - plus fielding calls from pharmacies, other patients,
hospitals etc..
I can see 40-50 patients on a very busy day but I am taking short cuts on
charting and exhausted by days end - no way to keep that up 5 days a week
for any length of time
http://allnurses.com/nurse-practitioners-np/np-salaries-locatio
j**********t
发帖数: 3480
7
元芳,你怎么看?

【在 l**n 的大作中提到】
: http://allnurses.com/nurse-practitioners-np/negotiating-my-sala
: 上面的NP才毕业在南加州,好像情形并不那么乐观/ 南加州的RN有人能够连续四年每年
: 二十万美金税后!而且RN六十刀一个小时在南加州不是很难, 我自己就拿到过。 不知
: 道有的NP的优越感从何而来。

b*****o
发帖数: 6080
8
那谁说了: whatever...
t*****l
发帖数: 48
9
我是一生物千老,正准备进nursing school,以后可以成为一NP呢。 我觉得当了NP后
,工资应该和马工差不多,还能工作到更老一些。看了此帖,对职业选择又不确定了。
如果NP工作和报酬还不如RN, 人为什么还要拿NP 学位呢?
b*****o
发帖数: 6080
10
你这是转帖吗?这个作者还惊讶,这有什么惊讶的,医疗体系一直都这么运转的,外科
比内科值钱,内科尤其家庭医生靠人头赚钱。不快乐的根源就是没有自己喜欢的东西,
除了互相攀比。其实华裔在美国平均收入可以了。

B12
attorney

【在 l**n 的大作中提到】
: I find seeing 4 puts an hour for a 12 hr day highly unlikely (in a clinic
: setting). You have charts to review, meds, histories and then there is the
: interaction with the patients. If the patients were muzzled and not allowed
: to talk maybe you could poke your head in the door and be out to the next
: patient. Perhaps put all the patients in the same room and pass out
: prescriptions. Plus the charting!! I am fast and can be in and out of most
: rooms in a few minutes, but then I have a few patients who are needy and
: bring family members - plus fielding calls from pharmacies, other patients,
: hospitals etc..
: I can see 40-50 patients on a very busy day but I am taking short cuts on

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说说NP还有PA的教育的主要区别国内医学院毕业的RN们,你们是考BOARD了还是上NP了
考医师执照还是护士麻醉师?请教一下NP的入学INTERVIEW?
简单说一下麻醉护士的申请请教姐妹们RN-MSN问题
b*****o
发帖数: 6080
11
不小心发成个人邮件了。不清楚谁在忽悠谁,请你正面回答一下楼上转行同学的问题吧。

【在 l**n 的大作中提到】
: I find seeing 4 puts an hour for a 12 hr day highly unlikely (in a clinic
: setting). You have charts to review, meds, histories and then there is the
: interaction with the patients. If the patients were muzzled and not allowed
: to talk maybe you could poke your head in the door and be out to the next
: patient. Perhaps put all the patients in the same room and pass out
: prescriptions. Plus the charting!! I am fast and can be in and out of most
: rooms in a few minutes, but then I have a few patients who are needy and
: bring family members - plus fielding calls from pharmacies, other patients,
: hospitals etc..
: I can see 40-50 patients on a very busy day but I am taking short cuts on

l**n
发帖数: 60
12
读了NP就不用怕被先读了NP的人忽悠了啊,不然人家一张嘴就是一副高大上的样子,不
就忽悠住你了吗?

【在 t*****l 的大作中提到】
: 我是一生物千老,正准备进nursing school,以后可以成为一NP呢。 我觉得当了NP后
: ,工资应该和马工差不多,还能工作到更老一些。看了此帖,对职业选择又不确定了。
: 如果NP工作和报酬还不如RN, 人为什么还要拿NP 学位呢?

j**********t
发帖数: 3480
13
拿加州这样高消费地区的rn工资和一般的entry level NP比没什么可比性。google一
下加州RN平均工资,也就10万多点.你要说有人赚到比这个多多了这个我信,那NP的工资
也是有区别的,有的NP赚的比google出来的平均水平也是多多了.拿个例说事没意思.
RN工作环境差是大家都知道的.如果没有加班费,不上夜班没有shift diff,RN能赚多少?
RN的高工资经常是建立在加班(一周上班40小说以上),上周末班,上晚班的基础上.这就
意味着牺牲和老公孩子在一起的时间.这样赚出来的工资,和NP比,然后说当医院RN比NP"
是更好的选择"? NP没有夜班没有周末班,朝九晚五8小时直,很多人一周干4天.有的州NP
可以自己开诊所,independent billing,prescription authority,这些是RN能比的吗?
RN年纪大了还能每周加很多班吗?
回到工资,普通NP比一个普通full time RN要高不少,跟一个使劲加班(一周起码上50-60
小时)的RN差不多或者后者更多.NP如果加班多看病人,那就不是RN能比的了.要说个例,
我一个6月刚毕业的同事NP,一周4天,一天20个病人,一年20万plus.我们这里的房价是
20万能买2000尺的新房.
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这是yymm的原帖。你歪曲别人的原意了。而且这个话题还真不是NP先挑起来的,一开始
是THR发帖踩NP,我也回帖了,意思是别人愿意读NP有人家的道理,比方说别人闲得慌。
真的,这样吵架没意思。我作为护版版主觉得很心寒。

【在 l**n 的大作中提到】
: 读了NP就不用怕被先读了NP的人忽悠了啊,不然人家一张嘴就是一副高大上的样子,不
: 就忽悠住你了吗?

l**n
发帖数: 60
14
THR 那个人长期就是专门挖坑,这是他的风格,比如以前他假装成女的叫做NURSEMM,
后来又突然说自己是男的了。忽悠了多少人很多年。现在呢他经常挑起一个话题,让大
家争论,自己躲在一边看热闹,反正他把自己的帖子删了,就没有证据了。

【在 l**n 的大作中提到】
: 读了NP就不用怕被先读了NP的人忽悠了啊,不然人家一张嘴就是一副高大上的样子,不
: 就忽悠住你了吗?

C**A
发帖数: 535
15
NP的平均工资比RN高一些,LIFE STYLE好一些,这个有什么好争的?
而且NP可以选者做NP或者RN,RN没法做NP,很多人读个NP只是以后多个
选择而已。
不用上夜班的NP肯定是比上夜班的多,以前UNIT里白班2个NP是晚班只有一个。
RN肯定是白班晚班一样多了。不过OR可能例外。
至于新毕业的NP赚20万的肯定是例外,不过你不能说没有可能。
我刚毕业在一个医院,40多个CRNA里我的小时工资最高,总收入我不敢说最高
起码不会有几个人比我高,而且我不用TAKE CALL。这个世界总有意外发生,
至于会不会一直这样,我不觉得,但是起码第一年是这样。

【在 l**n 的大作中提到】
: THR 那个人长期就是专门挖坑,这是他的风格,比如以前他假装成女的叫做NURSEMM,
: 后来又突然说自己是男的了。忽悠了多少人很多年。现在呢他经常挑起一个话题,让大
: 家争论,自己躲在一边看热闹,反正他把自己的帖子删了,就没有证据了。

w**d
发帖数: 362
16
新毕业的NP一年20万,这个真的是非常的lucky and outstanding, 一般人做不到的。
说10-12万,才是比较正常的。
德州的房子,20万买2000 SF新房,也是很难的; 1995年的旧房子差不多。如果说新房
子,得30万左右。
另外,回CRNA的帖子,一起毕业的CRNA,难道工资不是一样的吗?为什么40多个CRNA里
你的小时工资最高?有什么诀窍你比年资老大CRNA工资还高呢?
对你的这个帖子,我没有怀疑,只是想请教一下。
另外,类推一下,如果我BSN毕业了,难道和同期进入医院的其他BSN工资还不同吗?我
听说医院给新招来的RN的工资都一样。

【在 C**A 的大作中提到】
: NP的平均工资比RN高一些,LIFE STYLE好一些,这个有什么好争的?
: 而且NP可以选者做NP或者RN,RN没法做NP,很多人读个NP只是以后多个
: 选择而已。
: 不用上夜班的NP肯定是比上夜班的多,以前UNIT里白班2个NP是晚班只有一个。
: RN肯定是白班晚班一样多了。不过OR可能例外。
: 至于新毕业的NP赚20万的肯定是例外,不过你不能说没有可能。
: 我刚毕业在一个医院,40多个CRNA里我的小时工资最高,总收入我不敢说最高
: 起码不会有几个人比我高,而且我不用TAKE CALL。这个世界总有意外发生,
: 至于会不会一直这样,我不觉得,但是起码第一年是这样。

l**n
发帖数: 60
17
你拿NP工资最高的德州和RN工资最高的弯曲比一比看?德州的NP好比弯曲的RN,都是工
资偏高的地方。弯曲的RN的平均工资都有十五万美金,Average nurse in bay area
makes about $150K-$200K+,比德州NP的平均十万高多了。
LIFE STYLE这个还是看人了吧。有的人就喜欢一个星期工作三天,一个
星期工作五天很烦人,尤其是交通拥挤的地方。不是每个人都觉得一个星期五天,每天
八小时的工作很有趣。NP可以选择做NP 或者RN? 如果你NP压根找不到NP工作,你还有
选择?做得不好,还有选择?很多NP读毕业了但是从来没有做过一天NP,还是在做
BEDSIDE.很多NP一样上夜班。还有NP工作上出错,直接被FIRE掉的。难道被FIRE掉还有
选择继续做NP? 很多RN从来不做夜班,一直都是白班。RN 也可以一个星期五天,每天
八个小时,还没有周末和节假日上班。2015年也有USC毕业的CRNA考过了执照,在
洛杉矶找不到工作,继续做RN的,因为洛杉矶CRNA市场供过于求了,而且CRNA工资高的
地方往往也在德州等农村,都没有人愿意去的地方。那个USC毕业的CRNA宁可在洛杉矶
做RN也不愿意去农村找CRNA的位置。难道按照你的理论,他是有选择做CRNA但是不愿意
做CRNA?而且人家有人做RN,年年税后二十万美金,被CRNA SCHOOL录取选择不去读。
现在CRNA SCHOOL扩招,尤其是FLORIDA,GPA 2.8的都能进CRNA SCHOOL了,造成
CRNA供过于求了。
你这个人逻辑很混乱,你觉得对你有利的,你就说平均,然后又说什么世界总是有意外
,好处都让你占了。生物PHD的培训应该让你的逻辑一丝不苟才对。上班的地方碰到过
一个女的,NP加上CRNA,双执照,结果还是在做NP,没有做CRNA,不是每个人都觉得
CRNA很有意思。你一个新人还要在40个人里面工资最高,可能吗,医疗行业最强调工
作经验,难道你的生物PHD还能帮你在CRNA里面脱颖而出?那照你那么说还有人CRNA毕
业就直接做PARTNER了,一年25万美金往上了。
现在的RN都在讨论从赚钱的角度是不是还值得去读CRNA了。你自己看吧
One thing I do know is that if you're willing to relocate, anesthesia school
definitely doesn't seem to be as competitive to get into as it's made out
to be, at least not anymore, especially with 112+ schools open. There are
some questionable nurses in my ICU who have gotten accepted. One coworker
told me he has a 2.8, but he does have CCRN, and he is a very intelligent
and outgoing guy, so I assume he interviewed well and had a GPA with an
uphill trend.
http://allnurses.com/certified-registered-nurse/is-it-still-990

【在 C**A 的大作中提到】
: NP的平均工资比RN高一些,LIFE STYLE好一些,这个有什么好争的?
: 而且NP可以选者做NP或者RN,RN没法做NP,很多人读个NP只是以后多个
: 选择而已。
: 不用上夜班的NP肯定是比上夜班的多,以前UNIT里白班2个NP是晚班只有一个。
: RN肯定是白班晚班一样多了。不过OR可能例外。
: 至于新毕业的NP赚20万的肯定是例外,不过你不能说没有可能。
: 我刚毕业在一个医院,40多个CRNA里我的小时工资最高,总收入我不敢说最高
: 起码不会有几个人比我高,而且我不用TAKE CALL。这个世界总有意外发生,
: 至于会不会一直这样,我不觉得,但是起码第一年是这样。

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GPA低,想进MSN或者麻醉,有弥补的方式么?简单说一下麻醉护士的申请
说说我知道的,接触过的NP国内医学院毕业的RN们,你们是考BOARD了还是上NP了
这个护士版风气这么差请教一下NP的入学INTERVIEW?
终于下决心报名NP了!请教姐妹们RN-MSN问题
NP 工作身份终于注册了要考CCRN!
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