d**w
发帖数: 14889 | 1 By Gennady Fyodorov
MOSCOW, Feb 19 (Reuters) - Olympic men’s figure skating gold medallist Evan
Lysacek is not a “true champion”, his predecessor and Vancouver runner-up
Yevgeny Plushenko has told Russian media.
Plushenko, hoping to become the first man in almost six decades to win back-
to-back titles, lost to the American by 1.31 points on Thursday.
“You can’t be considered a true men’s champion without a quad,” the 27-
year-old told Russian state television RTR.
Lysacek did not attempt a quad |
B****n
发帖数: 6452 | 2 就差1.31分
真是郁闷啊
Evan
up
back-
【在 d**w 的大作中提到】
: By Gennady Fyodorov
: MOSCOW, Feb 19 (Reuters) - Olympic men’s figure skating gold medallist Evan
: Lysacek is not a “true champion”, his predecessor and Vancouver runner-up
: Yevgeny Plushenko has told Russian media.
: Plushenko, hoping to become the first man in almost six decades to win back-
: to-back titles, lost to the American by 1.31 points on Thursday.
: “You can’t be considered a true men’s champion without a quad,” the 27-
: year-old told Russian state television RTR.
: Lysacek did not attempt a quad
|
N*********n
发帖数: 3584 | 3 毛子现在被欺负成这样了？朝中没人了？
Evan
up
back-
【在 d**w 的大作中提到】
: By Gennady Fyodorov
: MOSCOW, Feb 19 (Reuters) - Olympic men’s figure skating gold medallist Evan
: Lysacek is not a “true champion”, his predecessor and Vancouver runner-up
: Yevgeny Plushenko has told Russian media.
: Plushenko, hoping to become the first man in almost six decades to win back-
: to-back titles, lost to the American by 1.31 points on Thursday.
: “You can’t be considered a true men’s champion without a quad,” the 27-
: year-old told Russian state television RTR.
: Lysacek did not attempt a quad
|
a****c
发帖数: 3827 | 4 想想中国，好多项目得比人家好很多才能拿金牌，所以俄罗斯的同学们不要委屈了。
我就在想，如果小普和雷鸟国籍换一下，结果会不会不同。 |
a*****a
发帖数: 286 | 5 那个坏了鞋带的小日本也太丑了，他能跳五周又怎样，还是没有视觉享受。小日本搞男
子体操的也没这么丑
啊，冰场上看就二等残废啊
Evan
up
back-
【在 d**w 的大作中提到】
: By Gennady Fyodorov
: MOSCOW, Feb 19 (Reuters) - Olympic men’s figure skating gold medallist Evan
: Lysacek is not a “true champion”, his predecessor and Vancouver runner-up
: Yevgeny Plushenko has told Russian media.
: Plushenko, hoping to become the first man in almost six decades to win back-
: to-back titles, lost to the American by 1.31 points on Thursday.
: “You can’t be considered a true men’s champion without a quad,” the 27-
: year-old told Russian state television RTR.
: Lysacek did not attempt a quad
|
d******i
发帖数: 1064 | 6 This is sports not show. If you really want to see beauty, ask Donald Trump.
【在 a*****a 的大作中提到】
: 那个坏了鞋带的小日本也太丑了，他能跳五周又怎样，还是没有视觉享受。小日本搞男
: 子体操的也没这么丑
: 啊，冰场上看就二等残废啊
:
: Evan
: up
: back-
|
i*********s
发帖数: 2451 | 7 记得jonny weir还是谁曾说过，和plushenko生在同一时代，是每个花滑选手的悲哀。
不管他有没有back-to-back，he is the empire and the only one in this field
当年那个huges真是jerk，还什么huges妹妹提名huges姐姐入名人堂. 前段时间还看到
她在电视上现，美国人有时真的是faceless！
不过花滑实在是很tricky的项目。plushenko至少应该庆幸奥运会他拿过了。和他同时
代的irina，女子中的plushenko，却是引恨冰场，落默收场的。
Evan
up
back-
【在 d**w 的大作中提到】
: By Gennady Fyodorov
: MOSCOW, Feb 19 (Reuters) - Olympic men’s figure skating gold medallist Evan
: Lysacek is not a “true champion”, his predecessor and Vancouver runner-up
: Yevgeny Plushenko has told Russian media.
: Plushenko, hoping to become the first man in almost six decades to win back-
: to-back titles, lost to the American by 1.31 points on Thursday.
: “You can’t be considered a true men’s champion without a quad,” the 27-
: year-old told Russian state television RTR.
: Lysacek did not attempt a quad
|
w*********8
发帖数: 3339 | 8 恩。。她的吹破接吹破很炫的。。。。那个修斯啊。。。的确是个joke。。好像她妹妹
也在滑，估计她姐姐把她家的rp都耗尽了。。。
【在 i*********s 的大作中提到】
: 记得jonny weir还是谁曾说过，和plushenko生在同一时代，是每个花滑选手的悲哀。
: 不管他有没有back-to-back，he is the empire and the only one in this field
: 当年那个huges真是jerk，还什么huges妹妹提名huges姐姐入名人堂. 前段时间还看到
: 她在电视上现，美国人有时真的是faceless！
: 不过花滑实在是很tricky的项目。plushenko至少应该庆幸奥运会他拿过了。和他同时
: 代的irina，女子中的plushenko，却是引恨冰场，落默收场的。
:
: Evan
: up
: back-
|
c*******o
发帖数: 8869 | 9 不同意你的观点, hughes虽然昙花一现, 但是就那一次的表现来将够得上奥运冠军,虽
然就一个晚上
【在 i*********s 的大作中提到】
: 记得jonny weir还是谁曾说过，和plushenko生在同一时代，是每个花滑选手的悲哀。
: 不管他有没有back-to-back，he is the empire and the only one in this field
: 当年那个huges真是jerk，还什么huges妹妹提名huges姐姐入名人堂. 前段时间还看到
: 她在电视上现，美国人有时真的是faceless！
: 不过花滑实在是很tricky的项目。plushenko至少应该庆幸奥运会他拿过了。和他同时
: 代的irina，女子中的plushenko，却是引恨冰场，落默收场的。
:
: Evan
: up
: back-
|
i*********s
发帖数: 2451 | 10 你的论据证实了我的观点。谢谢。
over
【在 c*******o 的大作中提到】
: 不同意你的观点, hughes虽然昙花一现, 但是就那一次的表现来将够得上奥运冠军,虽
: 然就一个晚上
|
|
|
c*******o
发帖数: 8869 | 11 你看清我的贴字, 我是说hughes的奥运冠军是当之无愧的, 有什么faceless的? 那一次
slutskaya就是不如hughes完美
【在 i*********s 的大作中提到】
: 你的论据证实了我的观点。谢谢。
: over
|
a****c
发帖数: 3827 | 12 那一次好像跟评分制度有点关系，那个ordinal的排列不是按cardinal的来的。我们老
师上课讲过，我忘了。最后一个人的分数影响三个人的顺序。不过我觉得hughes的属于
超水平发挥。
【在 c*******o 的大作中提到】
: 你看清我的贴字, 我是说hughes的奥运冠军是当之无愧的, 有什么faceless的? 那一次
: slutskaya就是不如hughes完美
|
i*********s
发帖数: 2451 | 13 盐湖城的huges和温哥华的evan，确实都是完美的。艺术的。
我不会再同您争论。谢谢。
【在 c*******o 的大作中提到】
: 你看清我的贴字, 我是说hughes的奥运冠军是当之无愧的, 有什么faceless的? 那一次
: slutskaya就是不如hughes完美
|
u*********e
发帖数: 9616 | 14 Too bad, Yevgeny, only if you added a little more work in your step sequence
and spin, and landed all jumps clean, you will be the true champion. Is
that hard for you to improve your footwork a little bit? Is that hard to
polish the choreograph a little more?
I watched Lysacek's program and I can say this is the best performance he
did in his life. I cannot say that about yours. I saw you did better, far
better than that.
So, a second best Plushenko vs a best Lysacek, tough choice. |
a****c
发帖数: 3827 | 15 你对小普的要求比对雷鸟高多了。你咋不要求雷鸟最quad呢，他多做两，他的冠军就没
争议了。
sequence
【在 u*********e 的大作中提到】
: Too bad, Yevgeny, only if you added a little more work in your step sequence
: and spin, and landed all jumps clean, you will be the true champion. Is
: that hard for you to improve your footwork a little bit? Is that hard to
: polish the choreograph a little more?
: I watched Lysacek's program and I can say this is the best performance he
: did in his life. I cannot say that about yours. I saw you did better, far
: better than that.
: So, a second best Plushenko vs a best Lysacek, tough choice.
|
a*****a
发帖数: 286 | 16 切，这个运动的魅力就是力与美的结合。不是短跑，没人在乎你长得什么样。不说要长
得多惊艳，最起码不要太奇怪吧。
那人的确是够奇怪，视觉上很shock。
Trump.
【在 d******i 的大作中提到】
: This is sports not show. If you really want to see beauty, ask Donald Trump.
|
u*********e
发帖数: 9616 | 17 because it's Plushenko who brought the point that "without quad Lysacek is
not a true champion".
Lysacek doesn't care if "true" or not, he's the champion.
【在 a****c 的大作中提到】
: 你对小普的要求比对雷鸟高多了。你咋不要求雷鸟最quad呢，他多做两，他的冠军就没
: 争议了。
:
: sequence
|
c****t
发帖数: 339 | 18 plushenko要有quad+footwork+chor才能和lysacek比一比?
sequence
【在 u*********e 的大作中提到】
: Too bad, Yevgeny, only if you added a little more work in your step sequence
: and spin, and landed all jumps clean, you will be the true champion. Is
: that hard for you to improve your footwork a little bit? Is that hard to
: polish the choreograph a little more?
: I watched Lysacek's program and I can say this is the best performance he
: did in his life. I cannot say that about yours. I saw you did better, far
: better than that.
: So, a second best Plushenko vs a best Lysacek, tough choice.
|
a****c
发帖数: 3827 | 19 这话说的，因为雷鸟对自己要求不高，就不用多他高要求了吗？
【在 u*********e 的大作中提到】
: because it's Plushenko who brought the point that "without quad Lysacek is
: not a true champion".
: Lysacek doesn't care if "true" or not, he's the champion.
|
t*******n
发帖数: 356 | 20 A 10th best Plushenko performance can easily beat the best performance by
Lysacek, period.
sequence
【在 u*********e 的大作中提到】
: Too bad, Yevgeny, only if you added a little more work in your step sequence
: and spin, and landed all jumps clean, you will be the true champion. Is
: that hard for you to improve your footwork a little bit? Is that hard to
: polish the choreograph a little more?
: I watched Lysacek's program and I can say this is the best performance he
: did in his life. I cannot say that about yours. I saw you did better, far
: better than that.
: So, a second best Plushenko vs a best Lysacek, tough choice.
|
|
|
s***e
发帖数: 1343 | 21 没戏了，小普也就痛快痛快嘴罢了。俄罗斯落魄了，说啥都没用。说来这也是报应来的
太快了。 |
a****c
发帖数: 3827 | 22 我同意你，不过这话政治不正确，毕竟咱是体育界的，不是娱乐界的，虽然这两家经常
一家算。
【在 a*****a 的大作中提到】
: 切，这个运动的魅力就是力与美的结合。不是短跑，没人在乎你长得什么样。不说要长
: 得多惊艳，最起码不要太奇怪吧。
: 那人的确是够奇怪，视觉上很shock。
:
: Trump.
|
a*****a
发帖数: 286 | 23 金牌给他一样很多人不服。他自己滑得也不怎么样。
【在 s***e 的大作中提到】
: 没戏了，小普也就痛快痛快嘴罢了。俄罗斯落魄了，说啥都没用。说来这也是报应来的
: 太快了。
|
u*********e
发帖数: 9616 | 24 Well, he cannot land a quad to save his life. he just cannot. It has nothing
to do with 对自己要求不高. But he won the champion anyway because
Plushenko wasn't at his best. In sports it happens all the time. Big deal.
【在 a****c 的大作中提到】
: 这话说的，因为雷鸟对自己要求不高，就不用多他高要求了吗？
|
l*****o
发帖数: 44 | 25 这个逻辑上不通啊，原来奥林匹克是每个人和自己的纵向比，而不是大家横向比，那要
给威尔发金牌 |
a****c
发帖数: 3827 | 26 维尔挺好的，感染力很强，他拿金牌我意见不是很大。
【在 l*****o 的大作中提到】
: 这个逻辑上不通啊，原来奥林匹克是每个人和自己的纵向比，而不是大家横向比，那要
: 给威尔发金牌
|
u*********e
发帖数: 9616 | 27 Unfortunately, he didn't. He got beaten by Lysacek. Lysacek is the new
champion.
【在 t*******n 的大作中提到】
: A 10th best Plushenko performance can easily beat the best performance by
: Lysacek, period.
:
: sequence
|
a****c
发帖数: 3827 | 28 他的冠军是contraversial的。
【在 u*********e 的大作中提到】
: Unfortunately, he didn't. He got beaten by Lysacek. Lysacek is the new
: champion.
|
l*****o
发帖数: 44 | 29 恩恩，我喜欢他，哈哈，如果能看到poker face就更好了
【在 a****c 的大作中提到】
: 维尔挺好的，感染力很强，他拿金牌我意见不是很大。
|
a*****a
发帖数: 286 | 30 规则就是要求完美。你可以上四周，但是要完美。那如果大家三周都完美了，那自然以后会有完美的四周出现。前途还是光明的。 |
|
|
s***e
发帖数: 1343 | |
c*******o
发帖数: 8869 | 32 不能这样讲, chan footwork还趔趄了呢，那还是等大家都平地滑顺了再上1周跳吧，
haha
以后会有完美的四周出现。前途还是光明的。
【在 a*****a 的大作中提到】
: 规则就是要求完美。你可以上四周，但是要完美。那如果大家三周都完美了，那自然以后会有完美的四周出现。前途还是光明的。
|
c****t
发帖数: 339 | 33 小雷就自己水平来说是滑的不错,不过无论如何1分多的差别，短节目的评分上的水分就
够了，从分数没法看出水平高低，以后评分这么接近又没有deduction的情况下应该发
两块金牌， |
a*****a
发帖数: 286 | 34 就别提他了，什么时候把三周滑利索了再说。
今年他就是个杯具加洗具。战前狂言，滑得却那么差，分得的又那么高。因为摔得漂亮，所以分高？哈哈
【在 c*******o 的大作中提到】
: 不能这样讲, chan footwork还趔趄了呢，那还是等大家都平地滑顺了再上1周跳吧，
: haha
:
: 以后会有完美的四周出现。前途还是光明的。
|
r******g
发帖数: 3849 | 35 这个没有任何意义。谁都知道Plushenko比Lysacek要厉害多了。but not last night
【在 t*******n 的大作中提到】
: A 10th best Plushenko performance can easily beat the best performance by
: Lysacek, period.
:
: sequence
|
s**a
发帖数: 1906 | 36 weir对普鲁申科崇拜得五体投地 恨不得嫁给他。。。
【在 i*********s 的大作中提到】
: 记得jonny weir还是谁曾说过，和plushenko生在同一时代，是每个花滑选手的悲哀。
: 不管他有没有back-to-back，he is the empire and the only one in this field
: 当年那个huges真是jerk，还什么huges妹妹提名huges姐姐入名人堂. 前段时间还看到
: 她在电视上现，美国人有时真的是faceless！
: 不过花滑实在是很tricky的项目。plushenko至少应该庆幸奥运会他拿过了。和他同时
: 代的irina，女子中的plushenko，却是引恨冰场，落默收场的。
:
: Evan
: up
: back-
|
j******y
发帖数: 44 | 37 He got beaten by new rating system, not by Lysacek. Gold or without Gold,
many years from now, Plushenko will be remembered as one of greatest skaters
in figure skating history. Lysacek? a controversial Olympic gold?
【在 u*********e 的大作中提到】
: Unfortunately, he didn't. He got beaten by Lysacek. Lysacek is the new
: champion.
|
q********m
发帖数: 3234 | 38 是的，有难度的flawless，不像雷鸟这次。 而且当时其他人都完成的不好，而这次，
小普的表现还行。
【在 c*******o 的大作中提到】
: 不同意你的观点, hughes虽然昙花一现, 但是就那一次的表现来将够得上奥运冠军,虽
: 然就一个晚上
|
u*********e
发帖数: 9616 | 39 If Plushenko won 2010 gold with his lackluster performance over Lysacek, it
will be equal or even more controversial.
Plushenko is one of the greatest skaters in history, no doubt about it.
Lysacek could never be in the same league with him. However, no one can take
away his gold medal. He earned it.
It doesn't matter how people remember him. He gave it all for his dream. At the end of the day, he is proud of himself. And that's all mattered.
skaters
【在 j******y 的大作中提到】
: He got beaten by new rating system, not by Lysacek. Gold or without Gold,
: many years from now, Plushenko will be remembered as one of greatest skaters
: in figure skating history. Lysacek? a controversial Olympic gold?
|
w*********8
发帖数: 3339 | 40 可惜人家不gay啊。。。嘿嘿
【在 s**a 的大作中提到】
: weir对普鲁申科崇拜得五体投地 恨不得嫁给他。。。
|
|
|
x***k
发帖数: 20754 | 41 这是竞技体育好不好，他要真give it all for his dream就跳quad
it
take
At the end of the day, he is proud of himself. And that's all mattered.
【在 u*********e 的大作中提到】
: If Plushenko won 2010 gold with his lackluster performance over Lysacek, it
: will be equal or even more controversial.
: Plushenko is one of the greatest skaters in history, no doubt about it.
: Lysacek could never be in the same league with him. However, no one can take
: away his gold medal. He earned it.
: It doesn't matter how people remember him. He gave it all for his dream. At the end of the day, he is proud of himself. And that's all mattered.
:
: skaters
|
u*********e
发帖数: 9616 | 42 well, he refused to listen to you and chose to do footwork and won the gold.
【在 x***k 的大作中提到】
: 这是竞技体育好不好，他要真give it all for his dream就跳quad
:
: it
: take
: At the end of the day, he is proud of himself. And that's all mattered.
|
h*********r
发帖数: 10182 | 43 竞技体育就是要找best way to win.
【在 x***k 的大作中提到】
: 这是竞技体育好不好，他要真give it all for his dream就跳quad
:
: it
: take
: At the end of the day, he is proud of himself. And that's all mattered.
|
B*****i
发帖数: 831 | 44 The current rating system does not value quad as much as it should.
If Lysacek can do quad but give it up for safety purposes,
his temporary victory is dirty but his choice is understandable.
If Lysacek just cannot do quad, then he is still no true champion. |
n********h
发帖数: 13135 | 45 he can not do quad
【在 B*****i 的大作中提到】
: The current rating system does not value quad as much as it should.
: If Lysacek can do quad but give it up for safety purposes,
: his temporary victory is dirty but his choice is understandable.
: If Lysacek just cannot do quad, then he is still no true champion.
|
N*C
发帖数: 1987 | |
S*****y
发帖数: 2871 | 47 又不是和自己的best比。你说雷鸟跳出自己的best，可能。不过如果他的best没有人家
average好，他这个牌拿的还是压不住。
你也可以上去跳一圈，说是自己的best。引用您刚才的话“so what?”
nothing
【在 u*********e 的大作中提到】
: Well, he cannot land a quad to save his life. he just cannot. It has nothing
: to do with 对自己要求不高. But he won the champion anyway because
: Plushenko wasn't at his best. In sports it happens all the time. Big deal.
|
S*****y
发帖数: 2871 | 48 不过说实话，表演真有些妖。hoho
【在 w*********8 的大作中提到】
: 可惜人家不gay啊。。。嘿嘿
|
g****e
发帖数: 930 | 49 He won on footwork? You mean his steps at walking pace? He was so slow in
the second half of his program that he almost crawled into his jumps just so
he could earn the bonus 10%.
gold.
【在 u*********e 的大作中提到】
: well, he refused to listen to you and chose to do footwork and won the gold.
|
B*M
发帖数: 1340 | 50 Lysacek should be shame of himself, not pround
it
take
At the end of the day, he is proud of himself. And that's all mattered.
【在 u*********e 的大作中提到】
: If Plushenko won 2010 gold with his lackluster performance over Lysacek, it
: will be equal or even more controversial.
: Plushenko is one of the greatest skaters in history, no doubt about it.
: Lysacek could never be in the same league with him. However, no one can take
: away his gold medal. He earned it.
: It doesn't matter how people remember him. He gave it all for his dream. At the end of the day, he is proud of himself. And that's all mattered.
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B*M
发帖数: 1340 | 51 Lysacek is not able to do quad,
what a shame for the gold!
【在 B*****i 的大作中提到】
: The current rating system does not value quad as much as it should.
: If Lysacek can do quad but give it up for safety purposes,
: his temporary victory is dirty but his choice is understandable.
: If Lysacek just cannot do quad, then he is still no true champion.
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j********i
发帖数: 1394 | 52 irina哪有那么好，plushenko当年无敌，irina从来就没有必胜的实力。 irina的天赋
其实不高，和lysacek一样，都是勤能
补拙的类型。
【在 i*********s 的大作中提到】
: 记得jonny weir还是谁曾说过，和plushenko生在同一时代，是每个花滑选手的悲哀。
: 不管他有没有back-to-back，he is the empire and the only one in this field
: 当年那个huges真是jerk，还什么huges妹妹提名huges姐姐入名人堂. 前段时间还看到
: 她在电视上现，美国人有时真的是faceless！
: 不过花滑实在是很tricky的项目。plushenko至少应该庆幸奥运会他拿过了。和他同时
: 代的irina，女子中的plushenko，却是引恨冰场，落默收场的。
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: Evan
: up
: back-
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m*d
发帖数: 7658 | 53 确实身材差了点，看起来很滑稽
【在 a*****a 的大作中提到】
: 那个坏了鞋带的小日本也太丑了，他能跳五周又怎样，还是没有视觉享受。小日本搞男
: 子体操的也没这么丑
: 啊，冰场上看就二等残废啊
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: up
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d*****h
发帖数: 1892 | 54 炒这么多没有意义。
有个好办法可以知道雷萨切克的冠军有没有争议。
在我们头脑中，把他和普鲁申科的国籍倒过来想一想，如果雷萨切克还能在我们脑海中
当之无愧的获得冠军，那他这个冠军就是货真价实，无可争议的！ |
i******t
发帖数: 272 | |
i******t
发帖数: 272 | 56 well said.
it
take
At the end of the day, he is proud
of himself. And that's all mattered.
【在 u*********e 的大作中提到】
: If Plushenko won 2010 gold with his lackluster performance over Lysacek, it
: will be equal or even more controversial.
: Plushenko is one of the greatest skaters in history, no doubt about it.
: Lysacek could never be in the same league with him. However, no one can take
: away his gold medal. He earned it.
: It doesn't matter how people remember him. He gave it all for his dream. At the end of the day, he is proud of himself. And that's all mattered.
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l********e
发帖数: 23 | 57 Plushy has never given us his best performance in Olympics. 2006 in Torino
was his best chance but he did not put his heart into the programs. It's
really hard for him this time. As one of the few skaters who will be
remembered in history, this matters more than just winning a gold or not.
Lysacek did his best in Olympics. Congrats! |
