s****k
发帖数: 273 | 1 没看到好的二手，准备买新的。
Recreational, sit-in
预算500，其他的附件浆啊救生衣啊另算。
看了几个牌子， old town, perception，好像不错。
我们这边的公园用的都是这两个牌子的。
又看到一个riot quest 10, 五百出头的价格，很喜欢。
但是riot这个牌子好像不多见，网上review很少，所以有些拿不准。
本地没有门店，只能网购。
求版上大神指教。 | s****k
发帖数: 273 | | m****g
发帖数: 3975 | 3 你在ＤＣ？ 看到喜欢kayaking同学就亲切．
不是特别建议买Recreational, sit-in，能去的地方都是静水，很有限，很快不能让人
满足（除非能力差）， 划艇最有意思的地方要么是白水艇， 要么漂流艇或海洋艇．
有的旧艇不错， 像 Perception Dancer， Pirouette， 才一百五（一定要带ＳＫ
ＩＲＴ）， 这个船是经典船， 既能满足新手静水需要，是白水艇 又能一些海洋，
划船层次马上提高， 注意的地方就是ＴＩＰＰＹ， 新人可能会翻， 学会ＷＥＴ
ＥＸＩＴ（比较简单）是最基本要求． ＣＬ时不时有．
浆最好的ＤＥＡＬ
http://www.sierratradingpost.com/carlisle-magic-fiberglass-tour
找ＣＯＵＰＯＮ，６０不到把， 快没了．
救生衣如果邮费不贵， 我有旧的可送人， 打发一般的水域没问题． | d*********e
发帖数: 8525 | | a***n
发帖数: 584 | 5 老大，在哪儿找旧艇的deal?
．
【在 m****g 的大作中提到】
: 你在ＤＣ？ 看到喜欢kayaking同学就亲切．
: 不是特别建议买Recreational, sit-in，能去的地方都是静水，很有限，很快不能让人
: 满足（除非能力差）， 划艇最有意思的地方要么是白水艇， 要么漂流艇或海洋艇．
: 有的旧艇不错， 像 Perception Dancer， Pirouette， 才一百五（一定要带ＳＫ
: ＩＲＴ）， 这个船是经典船， 既能满足新手静水需要，是白水艇 又能一些海洋，
: 划船层次马上提高， 注意的地方就是ＴＩＰＰＹ， 新人可能会翻， 学会ＷＥＴ
: ＥＸＩＴ（比较简单）是最基本要求． ＣＬ时不时有．
: 浆最好的ＤＥＡＬ
: http://www.sierratradingpost.com/carlisle-magic-fiberglass-tour
: 找ＣＯＵＰＯＮ，６０不到把， 快没了．
| s****k
发帖数: 273 | 6 谢谢你的回帖，帮助很大。
我在Williamsburg，VA。
其实我附近河、湖静水居多；有浪的少，而且最多可能就是半米高的浪吧。
以后如果玩更大的浪估计也是在外地，干脆租船就好。
所以我想自己买的话，买个能应付半米高的水浪的就可以了。最好静水也能“兼用”一
下。
能不能推荐一两个比较合适的呢？
（你说的两个Dancer， Pirouette我都去看了，好像是1995年的？
网上粗一看，好像已经没有卖的了。）
另外你推荐的paddle好像是touring的，
大部分时间我都是静水和小浪花，会不会委屈它了。。？
．
【在 m****g 的大作中提到】
: 你在ＤＣ？ 看到喜欢kayaking同学就亲切．
: 不是特别建议买Recreational, sit-in，能去的地方都是静水，很有限，很快不能让人
: 满足（除非能力差）， 划艇最有意思的地方要么是白水艇， 要么漂流艇或海洋艇．
: 有的旧艇不错， 像 Perception Dancer， Pirouette， 才一百五（一定要带ＳＫ
: ＩＲＴ）， 这个船是经典船， 既能满足新手静水需要，是白水艇 又能一些海洋，
: 划船层次马上提高， 注意的地方就是ＴＩＰＰＹ， 新人可能会翻， 学会ＷＥＴ
: ＥＸＩＴ（比较简单）是最基本要求． ＣＬ时不时有．
: 浆最好的ＤＥＡＬ
: http://www.sierratradingpost.com/carlisle-magic-fiberglass-tour
: 找ＣＯＵＰＯＮ，６０不到把， 快没了．
| m****g
发帖数: 3975 | 7 ----另外你推荐的paddle好像是touring的，
大部分时间我都是静水和小浪花，会不会委屈它了.
没有，这支奖很轻很漂亮，拿在手上像艺术品，划低级白水静水和海水特别好，难的白
水就可能舍不得了。
Dancer， Pirouette是90年代末的产品，是十几年前买的最好的一个RIVER RUNNER，
只有旧货市场有，要有耐心等（CRAIGSLIST）。
你说的old town, perception如今卖的都是静水船，而Dancer， Pirouette兼容性很强
，而且男同学都喜欢挑战不满足静水，Dancer， Pirouette给了你机会。也别忘了海洋
的机会很多，VA 和WA几乎是东部白水中心， 不过真正能利用这些资源，需要一段时间
。Dancer， Pirouette满足了从初级到中级的升级。 | s*****r
发帖数: 100 | 8 I disagree. Dancer and Pirouette are very good whitewater kayak at its time,
but completely outdated by now. Unless, someone give you one for free, I
wouldn't considered it.
You either get a recreational kayak, which is more stable, or a touring
kayak, which tracks well and with good speed. Both can be suitable for flat
water/moving water/coastal.
Dancer and Pirouette are neither stable nor tracks well, as they
were once for whitewater. However, you shouldn't start white water with them
either, unless you are into slalom.
．
【在 m****g 的大作中提到】
: 你在ＤＣ？ 看到喜欢kayaking同学就亲切．
: 不是特别建议买Recreational, sit-in，能去的地方都是静水，很有限，很快不能让人
: 满足（除非能力差）， 划艇最有意思的地方要么是白水艇， 要么漂流艇或海洋艇．
: 有的旧艇不错， 像 Perception Dancer， Pirouette， 才一百五（一定要带ＳＫ
: ＩＲＴ）， 这个船是经典船， 既能满足新手静水需要，是白水艇 又能一些海洋，
: 划船层次马上提高， 注意的地方就是ＴＩＰＰＹ， 新人可能会翻， 学会ＷＥＴ
: ＥＸＩＴ（比较简单）是最基本要求． ＣＬ时不时有．
: 浆最好的ＤＥＡＬ
: http://www.sierratradingpost.com/carlisle-magic-fiberglass-tour
: 找ＣＯＵＰＯＮ，６０不到把， 快没了．
| m****g
发帖数: 3975 | 9 Dancer and Pirouette are still used lot when training. I have one of those,
better then Big EZ I own on quietwater.
http://www.paddling.net/Reviews/showReviews.html?prod=103
07-21-2011
Submitted by: BriYakView Profile Send Email - Rating: 8 of 10
Purchased my Pirouette new back in 1990. This was my first WW boat and
it was a great purchase, a an excellent boat for learning in, not to small
to get you trashed in big water, good speed and excellent stability. Used
hard for many years until I sold it to a local paddling club to use as a
teaching boat.
Submit your own review!
06-01-2010
Submitted by: steve b - Rating: 9 of 10
I bought my Pirouette SS used for $200 to get into whitewater. I don't
have much experience yet and have not paddled tons of different boats but
this one is by far my favorite. It is fast and tracks very well yet is
surprisingly responsive and quick to turn when you want it to. I find it to
be very stable. The few other ww boats I have paddled do not handle anywhere
near as well as this one does. It does loose a point for the lame
outfitting. The carry handles are comfortable but cheap looking and the wire
security loops are pretty stupid. I thought the guy I was buying it off of
rigged them up and was surprised to find out they were factory.
The biggest complaint is the fact that there is no drain plug but $10 and 20
minutes of labor fixed that. Another great thing about this boat is how
comfortable it is. I just paddled 15 miles of mostly flat water without once
getting out of the boat and felt fine. The seat is just hard plastic but is
shaped perfectly (for me anyway) and the footplate bulkhead is easily
adjustable. it also looks so sleek. It is just a pretty boat in the water. I
love this boat, well worth $200.
Submit your own review!
04-17-2006
Submitted by: Wild Bill - Rating: 10 of 10Send Email
I picked mine up on a whim like some others, just out of curiosity, and
what a bargain at $200 from a commission shop.......not a scratch on it. I
was scared to death the first sitting, it was so quick to flip out from
under me. A very fast boat indeed, WOW, so touchy.......but with the right
paddle, the response makes it an extension of your body and going to the
Piro from a touring boat is like going to a unicycle from a bicycle; once
you get the feel, it's awesome. I love it's desire on it's own to tail-whip
so smoothly, but run true if you keep giving her the push. It's comfy too,
and it loves the Lampasas River at floodstage. Short, steep falls make
submarining a blast and long hauls down the pool are no work at all. It
tracks wonderfully due to the longer lines. This boat's a keeper and a must-
have if you run across one; excellent kid trainer as well, my boys love it!
Submit your own review!
12-30-2003
Submitted by: PaladinSend Email - Rating: 9 of 10
I make no apologies for the Pirouette in comparisons. It's a far
superior boat for my needs. If you have nonstop rapids and enjoy gymnastics
more than paddling, get a new school boat. If you've got long pools between
drops (as I do), get a boat that moves out while maintaining a high degree
of maneuverability. That's the Pirouette. The only flaw is the cheesy
outfitting. Grab loops aren't that critical on a small boat, but the woven
straps are bush. Ditto the wire cable security loop. But, in perspective,
those points are take a back seat to a ww kayak that has some zip. It also
has sculpted, flowing lines, much more attractive than the truncated little
spuds.
Submit your own review!
05-26-2003
Submitted by: Chris K - Rating: 10 of 10Send Email
I got one of these on a whim, wanted to start with the sport and did
not want to shell out lots of$$$ when I first got in it, it was a tight fit
but its a white water boat so what can you do. it also is a very very quick
to turn as a novice,, this was very fustrating but once I got to use it got
really mellow.. I tried out a friends paddel < thanks tim:) and it made all
this diff in the world... this boat is very fast and when coupled with the
right paddel and every thing very BIG fun to play with on the lake and im
now looking foward to giving white water a go.. sure its not all cool like
the new style play boats but the lines are classic and it is a solid well
built craft I really dig mine now.
Submit your own review!
07-18-2000
Submitted by: --- - Rating: 8 of 10
It's not fair to critize the pirouette by comparing it to all the new
boats on the market. it's limitations are all due to it's age. and
considering all the piro's i still see out on the river, many paddlers are
more concerned with all the things that it does well. it's got great primary
and secondary stability, it's roomy and comfortable, it's really fast. it
turns and surfs amazingly well for it's size (it's over 11' long!). I
learned in a Piro, and its utterly neutral handling allowed me to
concentrate on learning skills without having to worry about whatever quirky
characteristics the boat might have. I would still recommend this boat to
anyone who wants to get into WW paddling.
Submit your own review!
05-07-2000
Submitted by: --- - Rating: 8 of 10
I give the Pirouette an 8 because although it is a very good boat, fun
to paddle, good to learn on, and a good down river boat, I felt I outgrew it
too fast. If you are a larger paddler, the sort who will progress at a
leasurely pace, or are just looking for a fun stable boat this is the one.
Submit your own review!
08-16-1999
Submitted by: David A. Drupa - Rating: 9 of 10Send Email
Agile and predictable. A natural surfer. Classic lines. A workhorse
with thoroughbred speed.
Submit your own review!
06-06-1999
Submitted by: Chris - Rating: 9 of 10Send Email
The Pirouette is a top performer within its design group. The boat's
fast hull speed is one of its most outstanding features -- but there is a
balance in design: the P still responds exceeding well to draw strokes and
other directional strokes. This is an outstanding river runner that also
surfs well. Other later boat designs surf better on smaller waves, but the P
is a good choice if you like a fast boat that can handle big water. This
race-bred machine excels at fast peelouts and rocket ferries. The P is a
little stern edgy, but this is minimized if you keep the boat under power.
At 11'-2", you probably won't get rear-endered while running a rapid. But
you will experience booming enders and pirouettes at the local play holes.
With all the new shorter designs coming out, I hope that the Pirouette
remains in production as a classic river runner / play boat. | c********a
发帖数: 128 | 10
time,
flat
them
我有一条这样的艇。过去给新人用过几次。以后除非是没得选择，一般是不会再给新人
用了。谁想要可以拿走。
我现在给新手都是下猛药，给他们用的东西都是最好的。一个新手要尝试一项新的运动
，是不容易的。在器材和装备上就不能亏待他们了。
【在 s*****r 的大作中提到】
: I disagree. Dancer and Pirouette are very good whitewater kayak at its time,
: but completely outdated by now. Unless, someone give you one for free, I
: wouldn't considered it.
: You either get a recreational kayak, which is more stable, or a touring
: kayak, which tracks well and with good speed. Both can be suitable for flat
: water/moving water/coastal.
: Dancer and Pirouette are neither stable nor tracks well, as they
: were once for whitewater. However, you shouldn't start white water with them
: either, unless you are into slalom.
:
| | | S********t
发帖数: 18987 | 11 我是新手，给我下最猛的药吧
【在 c********a 的大作中提到】
:
: time,
: flat
: them
: 我有一条这样的艇。过去给新人用过几次。以后除非是没得选择，一般是不会再给新人
: 用了。谁想要可以拿走。
: 我现在给新手都是下猛药，给他们用的东西都是最好的。一个新手要尝试一项新的运动
: ，是不容易的。在器材和装备上就不能亏待他们了。
| a***n
发帖数: 584 | 12 漂流方面，我真的是生手。
你在哪儿？我来参加活动。顺便可以拿走你不要的船和其他设备吗？哈哈~~
【在 c********a 的大作中提到】
:
: time,
: flat
: them
: 我有一条这样的艇。过去给新人用过几次。以后除非是没得选择，一般是不会再给新人
: 用了。谁想要可以拿走。
: 我现在给新手都是下猛药，给他们用的东西都是最好的。一个新手要尝试一项新的运动
: ，是不容易的。在器材和装备上就不能亏待他们了。
| G***G
发帖数: 16778 | 13 ocean kayak frenzy.
I think it good for surfing and recreation.
http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/boa/3061918041.html
【在 s****k 的大作中提到】
: 没看到好的二手，准备买新的。
: Recreational, sit-in
: 预算500，其他的附件浆啊救生衣啊另算。
: 看了几个牌子， old town, perception，好像不错。
: 我们这边的公园用的都是这两个牌子的。
: 又看到一个riot quest 10, 五百出头的价格，很喜欢。
: 但是riot这个牌子好像不多见，网上review很少，所以有些拿不准。
: 本地没有门店，只能网购。
: 求版上大神指教。
| h********r
发帖数: 3291 | 14 求coupon
【在 m****g 的大作中提到】
: Dancer and Pirouette are still used lot when training. I have one of those,
: better then Big EZ I own on quietwater.
: http://www.paddling.net/Reviews/showReviews.html?prod=103
: 07-21-2011
: Submitted by: BriYakView Profile Send Email - Rating: 8 of 10
: Purchased my Pirouette new back in 1990. This was my first WW boat and
: it was a great purchase, a an excellent boat for learning in, not to small
: to get you trashed in big water, good speed and excellent stability. Used
: hard for many years until I sold it to a local paddling club to use as a
: teaching boat.
| m****g
发帖数: 3975 | 15 STP从几年前就停止给我COUPON，估计我买的东西太多了， 只好问别人讨要。
25% 哭胖网上google一下到处都是，35-40%的好像只寄给第一二年的顾客。 | p*******u
发帖数: 191 | 16 求推荐个kayak？
新手，会wet exit，不会roll
但是我主要是静水，会经常划艇钓鱼，所以最好是有
储物空间，比较稳的那种。我猜应该是touring的比较
适合我？
想玩白水了会去学校的俱乐部，自己不太想买白水的
多谢~~
．
【在 m****g 的大作中提到】
: 你在ＤＣ？ 看到喜欢kayaking同学就亲切．
: 不是特别建议买Recreational, sit-in，能去的地方都是静水，很有限，很快不能让人
: 满足（除非能力差）， 划艇最有意思的地方要么是白水艇， 要么漂流艇或海洋艇．
: 有的旧艇不错， 像 Perception Dancer， Pirouette， 才一百五（一定要带ＳＫ
: ＩＲＴ）， 这个船是经典船， 既能满足新手静水需要，是白水艇 又能一些海洋，
: 划船层次马上提高， 注意的地方就是ＴＩＰＰＹ， 新人可能会翻， 学会ＷＥＴ
: ＥＸＩＴ（比较简单）是最基本要求． ＣＬ时不时有．
: 浆最好的ＤＥＡＬ
: http://www.sierratradingpost.com/carlisle-magic-fiberglass-tour
: 找ＣＯＵＰＯＮ，６０不到把， 快没了．
| m****g
发帖数: 3975 | 17 其实３３５（３０５）是我们知道钓鱼船里少有又能漂又能划海多用途的船．
你要是在ＮＥ附近我倒可以转让你新的305 (RIO), $230（就是买入价）, 单人版，可
惜太远了．
【在 p*******u 的大作中提到】
: 求推荐个kayak？
: 新手，会wet exit，不会roll
: 但是我主要是静水，会经常划艇钓鱼，所以最好是有
: 储物空间，比较稳的那种。我猜应该是touring的比较
: 适合我？
: 想玩白水了会去学校的俱乐部，自己不太想买白水的
: 多谢~~
:
: ．
| p*******u
发帖数: 191 | 18 是啊，运费估计就要50刀
诚求coupon啊，Colorado 能300块搞到就出手了
【在 m****g 的大作中提到】
: 其实３３５（３０５）是我们知道钓鱼船里少有又能漂又能划海多用途的船．
: 你要是在ＮＥ附近我倒可以转让你新的305 (RIO), $230（就是买入价）, 单人版，可
: 惜太远了．
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