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f******r
发帖数: 2975
1
本来去宝宝板问得,后来想想那里大多是头胎
需要定ob, 现在大部分ob都不做VBAC(C之后自然生)
只有很少的医生愿意做
不知道第一胎是破腹产的妈妈们第二胎都是怎么生的
我第一胎生了快三天,最后开九指发烧婴儿头还没下来
拉去挨了一刀,后来伤口裂开没长好
第二胎其实很想自己试试
但是很担心 再生个三天,再挨一刀。怀疑第二个还是个大头宝宝。
家里还有个喜欢操心的老大
三天见不到我,我都害怕她茶饭不思
但是不试试也不甘心啊
我挨刀的时候epidural的反应吐的很厉害,浑身发抖
很难受
大家都是怎么选择的?
谢谢!
y****n
发帖数: 884
2
据说有1%可能性子宫破裂,而且一般二胎都比头胎大.

【在 f******r 的大作中提到】
: 本来去宝宝板问得,后来想想那里大多是头胎
: 需要定ob, 现在大部分ob都不做VBAC(C之后自然生)
: 只有很少的医生愿意做
: 不知道第一胎是破腹产的妈妈们第二胎都是怎么生的
: 我第一胎生了快三天,最后开九指发烧婴儿头还没下来
: 拉去挨了一刀,后来伤口裂开没长好
: 第二胎其实很想自己试试
: 但是很担心 再生个三天,再挨一刀。怀疑第二个还是个大头宝宝。
: 家里还有个喜欢操心的老大
: 三天见不到我,我都害怕她茶饭不思

w******i
发帖数: 1476
3
我想VBAC, 见红了最后没什么开指, 妥协了还是C了, 二宝出来时已经在肚子里拉了胎
粪了...
OB说, 你就是坚持VBAC, 最后估计也要emergency C了, sigh...
c*******g
发帖数: 2472
4
I did it successfully.
I went to a VBAC class. The nurse told me that my first OB tricked me into a
C section. She should not induce me for the first baby that early. So I
failed according to her plan.
I changed to a much better OB for my 2nd one. My OB doctor supported me. But
there is no activity after the due date. My doctor said that I can't be
induced since I had a C section before. She said that I will have to
schedule a C section.
I signed up for 2nd C section on Monday. Then I walked a lot. I went into
Labor Sunday morning around 3am. My baby was delivered Sunday night around
11:30pm.
My OB doctor was very happy for me. So the key is to find a good OB doctor.
w*********y
发帖数: 7895
5
我记得我们一个老师说过,如果你第一胎是C的话,第二胎医生也会建议C。
好像说自然生的话,有什么危险。

【在 f******r 的大作中提到】
: 本来去宝宝板问得,后来想想那里大多是头胎
: 需要定ob, 现在大部分ob都不做VBAC(C之后自然生)
: 只有很少的医生愿意做
: 不知道第一胎是破腹产的妈妈们第二胎都是怎么生的
: 我第一胎生了快三天,最后开九指发烧婴儿头还没下来
: 拉去挨了一刀,后来伤口裂开没长好
: 第二胎其实很想自己试试
: 但是很担心 再生个三天,再挨一刀。怀疑第二个还是个大头宝宝。
: 家里还有个喜欢操心的老大
: 三天见不到我,我都害怕她茶饭不思

c*******g
发帖数: 2472
6
People have different opinion. A lot of people prefer C Section. They said
no push is so easy to have a baby. A nurse was asking me why do you want to
push?
For me, I hated my C-section. It was quick. But I felt terrible.
So if you can, try VBAC. The experience for me is worth it.
I almost missed the chance. But I got lucky at the end.
To me, the recovery is about the same. I guess I just personally did not
like C section.
c*******g
发帖数: 2472
7
It depends on the cut position.
In US, the cut position is always safe for VBAC.
The chance is actually very small.
But most people just got scared. If you pick a good hospital, they will
support you.
Think about it, the worst thing is that when you fail, you will have another
C section. What if you did not fail, just like me?

【在 w*********y 的大作中提到】
: 我记得我们一个老师说过,如果你第一胎是C的话,第二胎医生也会建议C。
: 好像说自然生的话,有什么危险。

c*******g
发帖数: 2472
8
现在看我们的情况不太一样,我第一胎没有机会生,有点强迫刨的意味,你的情况还是
问问大夫吧。
我的第二胎不大,不到7磅。But I am a very small person too.

【在 f******r 的大作中提到】
: 本来去宝宝板问得,后来想想那里大多是头胎
: 需要定ob, 现在大部分ob都不做VBAC(C之后自然生)
: 只有很少的医生愿意做
: 不知道第一胎是破腹产的妈妈们第二胎都是怎么生的
: 我第一胎生了快三天,最后开九指发烧婴儿头还没下来
: 拉去挨了一刀,后来伤口裂开没长好
: 第二胎其实很想自己试试
: 但是很担心 再生个三天,再挨一刀。怀疑第二个还是个大头宝宝。
: 家里还有个喜欢操心的老大
: 三天见不到我,我都害怕她茶饭不思

a***l
发帖数: 2397
9
我的几个朋友都是第一胎剖了以后接着剖的,虽然她们也想VBAC
有一个是间隔了四五年,本来很想自己生的,不过在OB的建议(恐吓?)下还是剖了
s**n
发帖数: 6126
10
最差的结果不是再c一次,是命都可能没了
vbac最大的危险是子宫破裂
孩子有可能留下终身残疾,更糟糕的结果,孩子跟母亲都可能没命的

another

【在 c*******g 的大作中提到】
: It depends on the cut position.
: In US, the cut position is always safe for VBAC.
: The chance is actually very small.
: But most people just got scared. If you pick a good hospital, they will
: support you.
: Think about it, the worst thing is that when you fail, you will have another
: C section. What if you did not fail, just like me?

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l****r
发帖数: 688
11
千万不要VBAC!!!!!!!!!
你是在拿孩子的命当赌注, 也许还有你自己的命。
我同事就为了这个该死的VBAC,孩子死了。
谁问我VBAC, 都是绝对的no, no, no!
说实话你这种情况医生不会同意的。 我同事头胎是因为胎位不正,
不是因为生不下来。 所以她OB才同意的。
scheduled C-section 会比你这个生了三天才刨的容易恢复得多。

【在 f******r 的大作中提到】
: 本来去宝宝板问得,后来想想那里大多是头胎
: 需要定ob, 现在大部分ob都不做VBAC(C之后自然生)
: 只有很少的医生愿意做
: 不知道第一胎是破腹产的妈妈们第二胎都是怎么生的
: 我第一胎生了快三天,最后开九指发烧婴儿头还没下来
: 拉去挨了一刀,后来伤口裂开没长好
: 第二胎其实很想自己试试
: 但是很担心 再生个三天,再挨一刀。怀疑第二个还是个大头宝宝。
: 家里还有个喜欢操心的老大
: 三天见不到我,我都害怕她茶饭不思

c*******g
发帖数: 2472
12
Usually most hospital has emergency C-section.
The nurse told me if the hospital can do that within 16 minutes, then
everyone will be alright.
The nurse told me that the chance of 子宫破裂 is actually very small.
Just in my experience, I did it fine.
I guess everyone has its own situation.
So consult your doctor or go to a VBAC class first...

【在 s**n 的大作中提到】
: 最差的结果不是再c一次,是命都可能没了
: vbac最大的危险是子宫破裂
: 孩子有可能留下终身残疾,更糟糕的结果,孩子跟母亲都可能没命的
:
: another

c*******g
发帖数: 2472
13
I think I have a very good hospital.
Since I am a VBAC, they monitor the baby heart and my heart very closely. So
I can't walk around like other mothers in labor. I have to stay in bed so
that they can monitor my baby heart beat all the time. ( I think for VBAC,
they have a special tube to monitor the baby's heart beat.)
They said that they always have a team ready for emergency C section. They
can do everything really quick. That way, they can make sure the Mom and the
Baby are fine.
b*********t
发帖数: 877
14
我一个月前刚刚进行了第二次c section,比第一次恢复的快,在医院里按时吃药,基
本没感觉到什么疼。回家后一粒药都没吃,10天后就开车带老大出去玩了。所以c
section不是什么大事。
是的,他们是可以emergency c section,但是毕竟这个risk比repeat c section要大。
我觉得没有必要冒这个险。

So
the

【在 c*******g 的大作中提到】
: I think I have a very good hospital.
: Since I am a VBAC, they monitor the baby heart and my heart very closely. So
: I can't walk around like other mothers in labor. I have to stay in bed so
: that they can monitor my baby heart beat all the time. ( I think for VBAC,
: they have a special tube to monitor the baby's heart beat.)
: They said that they always have a team ready for emergency C section. They
: can do everything really quick. That way, they can make sure the Mom and the
: Baby are fine.

s**n
发帖数: 6126
15
你一个人的经历不说明什么
vbac成功的妈妈肯定很多很多
但是比例上来说,这个并不安全
发生到具体的一个妈妈和一个孩子的时候,就不是个比例问题了
是的,特别想要vbac的,一定要找好的医院和医生
我只是指出你所说的,“vbac最糟糕的结果只不过是另一个c”这句话完全不是那么回
事儿而已,最糟糕的结果比你写的这个糟糕得多

【在 c*******g 的大作中提到】
: Usually most hospital has emergency C-section.
: The nurse told me if the hospital can do that within 16 minutes, then
: everyone will be alright.
: The nurse told me that the chance of 子宫破裂 is actually very small.
: Just in my experience, I did it fine.
: I guess everyone has its own situation.
: So consult your doctor or go to a VBAC class first...

j**f
发帖数: 7403
16
最后36周左右要求做个B朝,看看头围,再做决定。 :)

本来去宝宝板问得,后来想想那里大多是头胎
需要定ob, 现在大部分ob都不做VBAC(C之后自然生)
只有很少的医生愿意做
不知道第一胎是破腹产的妈妈们第二胎都是怎么生的
我第一胎生了快三天,最后开九指发烧婴儿头还没下来
拉去挨了一刀,后来伤口裂开没长好
第二胎其实很想自己试试
但是很担心 再生个三天,再挨一刀。怀疑第二个还是个大头宝宝。
家里还有个喜欢操心的老大
三天见不到我,我都害怕她茶饭不思
但是不试试也不甘心啊
我挨刀的时候epidural的反应吐的很厉害,浑身发抖
很难受
大家都是怎么选择的?
谢谢!

【在 f******r 的大作中提到】
: 本来去宝宝板问得,后来想想那里大多是头胎
: 需要定ob, 现在大部分ob都不做VBAC(C之后自然生)
: 只有很少的医生愿意做
: 不知道第一胎是破腹产的妈妈们第二胎都是怎么生的
: 我第一胎生了快三天,最后开九指发烧婴儿头还没下来
: 拉去挨了一刀,后来伤口裂开没长好
: 第二胎其实很想自己试试
: 但是很担心 再生个三天,再挨一刀。怀疑第二个还是个大头宝宝。
: 家里还有个喜欢操心的老大
: 三天见不到我,我都害怕她茶饭不思

a****l
发帖数: 8211
17
VBAC是有风险的,当然也有相当大的比例是没问题的.似乎绝大部分是没什么问题的,不
过有问题的都比较恐怖,可能性也比一般生出问题的可能性大些.
其实scheduled C也挺好的,选好时间,大家在精神最好的时候迎接小宝,比较能享受,各
项工作也做的好.自然生不知道什么时候出来,结果弄到那种早上三点出来,整人感觉都
麻木了,很多关键时刻都没能留下来.scheduled C一般是睡了一个好觉后大家精神充沛
思维敏捷,什么时候该干什么就安排的比较好了.
另外,最好不要指望16min的emergency C,那种刀法都不一样的,恢复起来差的远了.

So
the

【在 c*******g 的大作中提到】
: I think I have a very good hospital.
: Since I am a VBAC, they monitor the baby heart and my heart very closely. So
: I can't walk around like other mothers in labor. I have to stay in bed so
: that they can monitor my baby heart beat all the time. ( I think for VBAC,
: they have a special tube to monitor the baby's heart beat.)
: They said that they always have a team ready for emergency C section. They
: can do everything really quick. That way, they can make sure the Mom and the
: Baby are fine.

r*f
发帖数: 39119
18
gxgx!!!
哪个安全快速哪个来算了,老大很需要关心的!

【在 f******r 的大作中提到】
: 本来去宝宝板问得,后来想想那里大多是头胎
: 需要定ob, 现在大部分ob都不做VBAC(C之后自然生)
: 只有很少的医生愿意做
: 不知道第一胎是破腹产的妈妈们第二胎都是怎么生的
: 我第一胎生了快三天,最后开九指发烧婴儿头还没下来
: 拉去挨了一刀,后来伤口裂开没长好
: 第二胎其实很想自己试试
: 但是很担心 再生个三天,再挨一刀。怀疑第二个还是个大头宝宝。
: 家里还有个喜欢操心的老大
: 三天见不到我,我都害怕她茶饭不思

r*f
发帖数: 39119
19
感觉胎儿大小和妈妈的个子没有必然关系.
我好几个朋友个子小, 胎儿比较大....

【在 c*******g 的大作中提到】
: 现在看我们的情况不太一样,我第一胎没有机会生,有点强迫刨的意味,你的情况还是
: 问问大夫吧。
: 我的第二胎不大,不到7磅。But I am a very small person too.

n*******e
发帖数: 974
20
我第二个也是C的, 倒是不觉得第一个C了第二个自然生会有什么危险, 主要我考虑肚
子上已经留一个疤了, 何必下面再受损害再留疤呢? 孩子以什么方式出生没有什么大
不了的, 安全健康心情愉快就行了
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a***d
发帖数: 1347
21
I had vbac 4 years ago.
Trust me, trust yourself, you can do it.
I had medical degree, did more research on this.
c-esction is easier on the ob and MORE money to OB and Hospital.
I work in doctor's office and have friend as nurse in OR.
Money-driven surgery.
a***d
发帖数: 1347
22
I changed to a much better OB for my 2nd one.
I did this too,
you have to find a good doctor.

a
But

【在 c*******g 的大作中提到】
: I did it successfully.
: I went to a VBAC class. The nurse told me that my first OB tricked me into a
: C section. She should not induce me for the first baby that early. So I
: failed according to her plan.
: I changed to a much better OB for my 2nd one. My OB doctor supported me. But
: there is no activity after the due date. My doctor said that I can't be
: induced since I had a C section before. She said that I will have to
: schedule a C section.
: I signed up for 2nd C section on Monday. Then I walked a lot. I went into
: Labor Sunday morning around 3am. My baby was delivered Sunday night around

a***d
发帖数: 1347
23
you can die of any reason,

【在 s**n 的大作中提到】
: 最差的结果不是再c一次,是命都可能没了
: vbac最大的危险是子宫破裂
: 孩子有可能留下终身残疾,更糟糕的结果,孩子跟母亲都可能没命的
:
: another

a***d
发帖数: 1347
24
Do you know how bad is c-section?
Do you know how bad is repeated c-section?
Please close me completely! 1 thing to tell the OB.
BTW, do you know who is close the patient in the OR?

【在 s**n 的大作中提到】
: 最差的结果不是再c一次,是命都可能没了
: vbac最大的危险是子宫破裂
: 孩子有可能留下终身残疾,更糟糕的结果,孩子跟母亲都可能没命的
:
: another

b*********t
发帖数: 877
25
实在看不懂。。。

【在 a***d 的大作中提到】
: Do you know how bad is c-section?
: Do you know how bad is repeated c-section?
: Please close me completely! 1 thing to tell the OB.
: BTW, do you know who is close the patient in the OR?

T******t
发帖数: 420
26
这个其实是不好说的。没有人知道你具体的情况是什么。
我非常赞成“没有任何一个人的生产过程是典型”的这句话。其实第一次生和第二次生
的可比性也不大。
我听说过VBAC的好处和风险,也听说过第二次C的好处和风险。不管赞成哪种方案,大
家只能从自己的经验加感觉猜着帮你出主意。
如果我猜,我觉得你多少有点倾向的。
其实现在生孩子大家都是一颗红心2种以上的准备。好在有个Plan B,尽管有的选有时
也很烦人。
现在好好照顾自己,最后决定就到最后去做吧。结果很可能是医生引导你点头同意的~
c*******g
发帖数: 2472
27
Well, at the end of the day, it is a personal choice.
Everything has risk associated with it.
How much risk you are willing to take is totally up to you.
C-section has risk too.
Only people with medical degree can offer professional advise.
To me, I was telling myself the worst is to have another C, that is why I
chose VBAC since I want the experience. Again, that was just my opinion and
my take on this.

【在 s**n 的大作中提到】
: 你一个人的经历不说明什么
: vbac成功的妈妈肯定很多很多
: 但是比例上来说,这个并不安全
: 发生到具体的一个妈妈和一个孩子的时候,就不是个比例问题了
: 是的,特别想要vbac的,一定要找好的医院和医生
: 我只是指出你所说的,“vbac最糟糕的结果只不过是另一个c”这句话完全不是那么回
: 事儿而已,最糟糕的结果比你写的这个糟糕得多

c*******g
发帖数: 2472
28
从中医的角度,C-SECTION终究要破气,对身体不好。医生到是轻松。我家大宝是刨的
,从小胆小。如果努力了不能生也就罢了,我根本就没有给生的机会,当时是出离愤怒
的。第2胎的机会是我自己争取到的, to me, best decision I ever made.

【在 b*********t 的大作中提到】
: 实在看不懂。。。
t**********o
发帖数: 124
29
We have a physician here who was famous for encouraging his OB patients to
go for VBAC. He had been so successful through his practice until one day
one case happened. A newborn died between his hands in the last moment of
the delivery. He now never do VBAC any more. It was devastating to both the
mom and the physician.
The risk of the VBAC is not as high as 100%, not even 5%. Most of moms will
succeed. But the consequence of the complications is so bad that nobody can
handle it. This is why ACOG does not encourage it. And most of OB physicians
do not recommend it.
If you listen to the nurses or midwife, they will give you different stories
. They do not handle complicated OB cases and they have very limited
experience regarding the complications.
For those who succeeded VBAC, congra! Please remember, personal experience
is really a personal experience. Balancing the risks and benefits is an art.
A good OB physician should be able to explain it well to you and respect
your reasonable final calls. Good luck!
n********h
发帖数: 13135
30
Here is a link for VBAC
http://www.webmd.com/baby/guide/vaginal-birth-after-cesarean-vbac-
overview

patients to
day
of
both the
will
nobody can
physicians
stories

【在 t**********o 的大作中提到】
: We have a physician here who was famous for encouraging his OB patients to
: go for VBAC. He had been so successful through his practice until one day
: one case happened. A newborn died between his hands in the last moment of
: the delivery. He now never do VBAC any more. It was devastating to both the
: mom and the physician.
: The risk of the VBAC is not as high as 100%, not even 5%. Most of moms will
: succeed. But the consequence of the complications is so bad that nobody can
: handle it. This is why ACOG does not encourage it. And most of OB physicians
: do not recommend it.
: If you listen to the nurses or midwife, they will give you different stories

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c*******g
发帖数: 2472
31
It is like take an airplane.
The chances for having accidents are much bigger if you drive a car than
taking the airplane.
But the result of airplane accident is a lot worse...

the
will
can
physicians
stories

【在 t**********o 的大作中提到】
: We have a physician here who was famous for encouraging his OB patients to
: go for VBAC. He had been so successful through his practice until one day
: one case happened. A newborn died between his hands in the last moment of
: the delivery. He now never do VBAC any more. It was devastating to both the
: mom and the physician.
: The risk of the VBAC is not as high as 100%, not even 5%. Most of moms will
: succeed. But the consequence of the complications is so bad that nobody can
: handle it. This is why ACOG does not encourage it. And most of OB physicians
: do not recommend it.
: If you listen to the nurses or midwife, they will give you different stories

w*******g
发帖数: 9932
32
not entirely true.
Travel by plane carries far smaller risk on average than other means of
transportation. The same cannot be said about VBAC.
That is why you should be careful not to have C-section when it is not
necessary.

【在 c*******g 的大作中提到】
: It is like take an airplane.
: The chances for having accidents are much bigger if you drive a car than
: taking the airplane.
: But the result of airplane accident is a lot worse...
:
: the
: will
: can
: physicians
: stories

a***d
发帖数: 1347
33
do you know how many people die from c-section?
Do you know people how many die from natural birth?

the
will
can
physicians
stories

【在 t**********o 的大作中提到】
: We have a physician here who was famous for encouraging his OB patients to
: go for VBAC. He had been so successful through his practice until one day
: one case happened. A newborn died between his hands in the last moment of
: the delivery. He now never do VBAC any more. It was devastating to both the
: mom and the physician.
: The risk of the VBAC is not as high as 100%, not even 5%. Most of moms will
: succeed. But the consequence of the complications is so bad that nobody can
: handle it. This is why ACOG does not encourage it. And most of OB physicians
: do not recommend it.
: If you listen to the nurses or midwife, they will give you different stories

c*******g
发帖数: 2472
34
That is a good question.
Again, I think it is a personal choice.
My sister chose C-section for no reason.
I was forced into C-section while I wanted a natural birth...
Again, it goes back to: What do you really want?

【在 a***d 的大作中提到】
: do you know how many people die from c-section?
: Do you know people how many die from natural birth?
:
: the
: will
: can
: physicians
: stories

a***d
发帖数: 1347
35
OB缝合很少, 都是助理,
他们经常不缝好, 肌肉层会有裂口,
切口疝很常见,有的要再次手术缝合,
手术的各种并发证太多, 能避免就避免。
美国的医疗没那么理想!

【在 b*********t 的大作中提到】
: 实在看不懂。。。
c*******u
发帖数: 12899
36
请给出数据。
要不然这就是危言耸听。

【在 a***d 的大作中提到】
: do you know how many people die from c-section?
: Do you know people how many die from natural birth?
:
: the
: will
: can
: physicians
: stories

c*******u
发帖数: 12899
37
这跟你想要什么没有关系,我相信绝大多数医生会跟据产妇自身的情况给出最好的解决
方式。
我当年生大宝也是剖的,我还傻乎乎地问:"Do I have other choice?"
医生回答:"Yes, dear, you always have your own choice, but your choice at
this time is always wrong."
我相信我对于自身医疗需求的了解,远远不如医生专业。

【在 c*******g 的大作中提到】
: That is a good question.
: Again, I think it is a personal choice.
: My sister chose C-section for no reason.
: I was forced into C-section while I wanted a natural birth...
: Again, it goes back to: What do you really want?

n*******e
发帖数: 974
38
我两次c都是一个ob, 也都是他亲自缝的, 缝的很好, 伤口随着肚子缩小现在是8厘
米, 藏在mao里, 根本看不见, 手术后没有任何并发症, 24小时不到下床, 一周后
开车出门, 两个孩子也很好, 没有任何发育迟缓不平衡不协调胆小多动之类的问题。
我也听说自然生会松弛, 大家老实说是不是这样, 也肯定有人锻炼得当保持不错,
那是不是和生产前能完全一样呢, 这样的几率有多大呢? 还有我有个儿时的邻居,
小学来美国现在是个ob, 她告诉我自然生还有个坏处是年纪大了后比普通人容易得尿
失禁, 也不知道是不是侧切撕裂松弛啊什么的引起的, 或者就是概率比较大?
所以说做妈妈无论怎么样都是个危险而付出代价的过程, 自己怎么高兴怎么来, 就算
有什么问题以后也不容易后悔

【在 a***d 的大作中提到】
: OB缝合很少, 都是助理,
: 他们经常不缝好, 肌肉层会有裂口,
: 切口疝很常见,有的要再次手术缝合,
: 手术的各种并发证太多, 能避免就避免。
: 美国的医疗没那么理想!

a***d
发帖数: 1347
39
http://bbs.wenxuecity.com/kids/1685922.html
我的VBAC (一)for small pelvis and CPD (cephalopelvic disproportion)
another person shared her story.
a***d
发帖数: 1347
40
http://bbs.wenxuecity.com/kids/1685922.html
我的VBAC (一)for small pelvis and CPD (cephalopelvic disproportion)
another person shared her story.
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J*****n
发帖数: 154
41
我老大是emergency c-section,老二是scheduled c-section。我觉得挺好的,老大也
好安排,而且因为不需要内检,所以大大减少infection的机会。当然剖腹产恢复起来
要慢些,但是过了第一个月也就没什么事了。
w*******g
发帖数: 9932
42
when my wife was giving birth, the doctor was quite impatient and wanted to
have
the C-section several times but the hospital nurse told me that my wife
should
wait a bit longer and we did. Natural birth is better for the child
according to
a number of studies. I found it is hard to believe but you never know.
it is very easy to get persuaded to have the C-section if you are not strong
enough.

【在 c*******u 的大作中提到】
: 这跟你想要什么没有关系,我相信绝大多数医生会跟据产妇自身的情况给出最好的解决
: 方式。
: 我当年生大宝也是剖的,我还傻乎乎地问:"Do I have other choice?"
: 医生回答:"Yes, dear, you always have your own choice, but your choice at
: this time is always wrong."
: 我相信我对于自身医疗需求的了解,远远不如医生专业。

w*******g
发帖数: 9932
43
个例不能说明规律啊.
产后松弛似乎没有在我老婆身上出现. 首先产后会有缝合, 其实人体恢复的能力也是很
惊人的.



【在 n*******e 的大作中提到】
: 我两次c都是一个ob, 也都是他亲自缝的, 缝的很好, 伤口随着肚子缩小现在是8厘
: 米, 藏在mao里, 根本看不见, 手术后没有任何并发症, 24小时不到下床, 一周后
: 开车出门, 两个孩子也很好, 没有任何发育迟缓不平衡不协调胆小多动之类的问题。
: 我也听说自然生会松弛, 大家老实说是不是这样, 也肯定有人锻炼得当保持不错,
: 那是不是和生产前能完全一样呢, 这样的几率有多大呢? 还有我有个儿时的邻居,
: 小学来美国现在是个ob, 她告诉我自然生还有个坏处是年纪大了后比普通人容易得尿
: 失禁, 也不知道是不是侧切撕裂松弛啊什么的引起的, 或者就是概率比较大?
: 所以说做妈妈无论怎么样都是个危险而付出代价的过程, 自己怎么高兴怎么来, 就算
: 有什么问题以后也不容易后悔

J*****n
发帖数: 154
44
不明白剖腹产和胆小有什么关系。我老大是剖的,胆子挺大

【在 c*******g 的大作中提到】
: 从中医的角度,C-SECTION终究要破气,对身体不好。医生到是轻松。我家大宝是刨的
: ,从小胆小。如果努力了不能生也就罢了,我根本就没有给生的机会,当时是出离愤怒
: 的。第2胎的机会是我自己争取到的, to me, best decision I ever made.

c*******u
发帖数: 12899
45
我的情况是,血压降到27,胎儿不动了,难道还坚持要自己生?

to
strong

【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: when my wife was giving birth, the doctor was quite impatient and wanted to
: have
: the C-section several times but the hospital nurse told me that my wife
: should
: wait a bit longer and we did. Natural birth is better for the child
: according to
: a number of studies. I found it is hard to believe but you never know.
: it is very easy to get persuaded to have the C-section if you are not strong
: enough.

n*******e
发帖数: 974
46
是啊, 在生产前可以想想, 等生的时候就没啥选择了, 很多脑瘫儿怎么来的, 还不
是自然生遇到状况没及时C来的...

【在 c*******u 的大作中提到】
: 这跟你想要什么没有关系,我相信绝大多数医生会跟据产妇自身的情况给出最好的解决
: 方式。
: 我当年生大宝也是剖的,我还傻乎乎地问:"Do I have other choice?"
: 医生回答:"Yes, dear, you always have your own choice, but your choice at
: this time is always wrong."
: 我相信我对于自身医疗需求的了解,远远不如医生专业。

c*******u
发帖数: 12899
47
就是么。

【在 J*****n 的大作中提到】
: 不明白剖腹产和胆小有什么关系。我老大是剖的,胆子挺大
w*******g
发帖数: 9932
48
you seem to have the energy to talk to the doctor so I thought your
condition
was not that dangerous

【在 c*******u 的大作中提到】
: 我的情况是,血压降到27,胎儿不动了,难道还坚持要自己生?
:
: to
: strong

a***d
发帖数: 1347
49
so, nobody die from c-section or natural birth?

【在 c*******u 的大作中提到】
: 请给出数据。
: 要不然这就是危言耸听。

c*******u
发帖数: 12899
50
ft,有劲儿跟医生说话和“有没有必要剖”之间有什么逻辑关系么?
难不成紧急剖的都得晕过去才算?

【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: you seem to have the energy to talk to the doctor so I thought your
: condition
: was not that dangerous

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c*******u
发帖数: 12899
51
从哪儿infer出来我是这个意思?
你的意思是说,C比正常生产死亡率高的话,那就给出可靠的数据么。一个两个个例说
明不了任何问题,何况没人知道这些个例是不是真的。
我想大多数人本身不是医生,对自身的了解没有医生专业。

【在 a***d 的大作中提到】
: so, nobody die from c-section or natural birth?
a***d
发帖数: 1347
52
I had medical degree from china, still work in health care in us.
I hope some MM learn from this post, at least will to try.
w*******g
发帖数: 9932
53
if you have the energy to ask the doctor for opinion, you may be able to
push the baby out. That is why women need someone in the room to be their
advocate.
My wife were almost exhausted after many hours of labor and the child just
wouldn't come out. Even his head was not showing. The doctor wanted a C-
section but
several nurses in the room felt that she can still give birth naturally and
asked us to try 5 more minutes. Of course, we were monitoring the hearting
rate and make sure hthe baby is doing fine. My wife could barely speak at
that time. She relied on my judgment. If it were up to her, she probably
would have had C-section and regreted later.
It is like running marathon, you need someone to encourage you and keep you
safe.

【在 c*******u 的大作中提到】
: ft,有劲儿跟医生说话和“有没有必要剖”之间有什么逻辑关系么?
: 难不成紧急剖的都得晕过去才算?

M********8
发帖数: 3837
54
甘心啥呢?最主要是母婴安全,不要折腾。很可能最后还是C, 白吃苦了,因为你的
birth channel其实没有用过,跟头胎一样辛苦。

【在 f******r 的大作中提到】
: 本来去宝宝板问得,后来想想那里大多是头胎
: 需要定ob, 现在大部分ob都不做VBAC(C之后自然生)
: 只有很少的医生愿意做
: 不知道第一胎是破腹产的妈妈们第二胎都是怎么生的
: 我第一胎生了快三天,最后开九指发烧婴儿头还没下来
: 拉去挨了一刀,后来伤口裂开没长好
: 第二胎其实很想自己试试
: 但是很担心 再生个三天,再挨一刀。怀疑第二个还是个大头宝宝。
: 家里还有个喜欢操心的老大
: 三天见不到我,我都害怕她茶饭不思

r*f
发帖数: 39119
55
虽然我没c过,不过我相信如果有需要,ob肯定是亲自完成c的过程,
除了护士,没看到过啥助理。只要不是没别的选择,没board certified
医生我一定拒绝掉。

【在 a***d 的大作中提到】
: OB缝合很少, 都是助理,
: 他们经常不缝好, 肌肉层会有裂口,
: 切口疝很常见,有的要再次手术缝合,
: 手术的各种并发证太多, 能避免就避免。
: 美国的医疗没那么理想!

r*f
发帖数: 39119
56


这当然是瞎扯,除非自己完全不在乎恢复的过程。
这就是产妇因为不知道怎么恢复,,你的邻居应该知道啊,lol

【在 n*******e 的大作中提到】
: 我两次c都是一个ob, 也都是他亲自缝的, 缝的很好, 伤口随着肚子缩小现在是8厘
: 米, 藏在mao里, 根本看不见, 手术后没有任何并发症, 24小时不到下床, 一周后
: 开车出门, 两个孩子也很好, 没有任何发育迟缓不平衡不协调胆小多动之类的问题。
: 我也听说自然生会松弛, 大家老实说是不是这样, 也肯定有人锻炼得当保持不错,
: 那是不是和生产前能完全一样呢, 这样的几率有多大呢? 还有我有个儿时的邻居,
: 小学来美国现在是个ob, 她告诉我自然生还有个坏处是年纪大了后比普通人容易得尿
: 失禁, 也不知道是不是侧切撕裂松弛啊什么的引起的, 或者就是概率比较大?
: 所以说做妈妈无论怎么样都是个危险而付出代价的过程, 自己怎么高兴怎么来, 就算
: 有什么问题以后也不容易后悔

r*f
发帖数: 39119
57
内检会引发infection? ob用手套吧

【在 J*****n 的大作中提到】
: 我老大是emergency c-section,老二是scheduled c-section。我觉得挺好的,老大也
: 好安排,而且因为不需要内检,所以大大减少infection的机会。当然剖腹产恢复起来
: 要慢些,但是过了第一个月也就没什么事了。

r*f
发帖数: 39119
58
我个人觉得c更需要勇气啊,如果不是别无选择。。。。

to
strong

【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: when my wife was giving birth, the doctor was quite impatient and wanted to
: have
: the C-section several times but the hospital nurse told me that my wife
: should
: wait a bit longer and we did. Natural birth is better for the child
: according to
: a number of studies. I found it is hard to believe but you never know.
: it is very easy to get persuaded to have the C-section if you are not strong
: enough.

r*f
发帖数: 39119
59
哇,50几就把我吓着了。。。。嘴唇哆嗦着说不清话了

【在 c*******u 的大作中提到】
: 我的情况是,血压降到27,胎儿不动了,难道还坚持要自己生?
:
: to
: strong

r*f
发帖数: 39119
60
赞,真不容易!

and

【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: if you have the energy to ask the doctor for opinion, you may be able to
: push the baby out. That is why women need someone in the room to be their
: advocate.
: My wife were almost exhausted after many hours of labor and the child just
: wouldn't come out. Even his head was not showing. The doctor wanted a C-
: section but
: several nurses in the room felt that she can still give birth naturally and
: asked us to try 5 more minutes. Of course, we were monitoring the hearting
: rate and make sure hthe baby is doing fine. My wife could barely speak at
: that time. She relied on my judgment. If it were up to her, she probably

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n*******e
发帖数: 974
61
这个嘛, 牵涉的隐私的问题, 不像一些c的不好有个感染大家承认也就承认了, 呵呵
我那个ob朋友没生育过, 她只是见多了, 忒别是难产过或者生育多次的, 我相信和年龄也有关

【在 r*f 的大作中提到】
: 赞,真不容易!
:
: and

o********a
发帖数: 242
62
借个光问一下,剖腹产伤口恢复的进度是咋样的?怎么我7个多月了,刀口那还是凹下
去的,这正常吗?啥时候能跟肚子其他地方一样平啊?
还有,刀口的长度是会缩的吗?还是有的人本来刀口就短?
我觉得自己恢复得挺慢的,快4周了伤口才彻底停止渗血,1个月的时候还只能慢慢走动
,稍微走多了一点就疼。我原来以为是喂奶扯到伤口,加上自己孕期没怎么锻炼身体素
质差所以恢复慢,难道其实可能跟医生有关系???
a***d
发帖数: 1347
63
you know how many people work in the OR?
How many people is needed to do one surgery?
Who do which part, cut in, close up?
Do you know there are PAs?

【在 r*f 的大作中提到】
: 虽然我没c过,不过我相信如果有需要,ob肯定是亲自完成c的过程,
: 除了护士,没看到过啥助理。只要不是没别的选择,没board certified
: 医生我一定拒绝掉。

t**f
发帖数: 2360
64
PA也是PA-C

【在 a***d 的大作中提到】
: you know how many people work in the OR?
: How many people is needed to do one surgery?
: Who do which part, cut in, close up?
: Do you know there are PAs?

a***d
发帖数: 1347
65
you can only see the outside, do you know how many layes are needed to close
inside?
inside is far more inportant than outsdie.



【在 n*******e 的大作中提到】
: 我两次c都是一个ob, 也都是他亲自缝的, 缝的很好, 伤口随着肚子缩小现在是8厘
: 米, 藏在mao里, 根本看不见, 手术后没有任何并发症, 24小时不到下床, 一周后
: 开车出门, 两个孩子也很好, 没有任何发育迟缓不平衡不协调胆小多动之类的问题。
: 我也听说自然生会松弛, 大家老实说是不是这样, 也肯定有人锻炼得当保持不错,
: 那是不是和生产前能完全一样呢, 这样的几率有多大呢? 还有我有个儿时的邻居,
: 小学来美国现在是个ob, 她告诉我自然生还有个坏处是年纪大了后比普通人容易得尿
: 失禁, 也不知道是不是侧切撕裂松弛啊什么的引起的, 或者就是概率比较大?
: 所以说做妈妈无论怎么样都是个危险而付出代价的过程, 自己怎么高兴怎么来, 就算
: 有什么问题以后也不容易后悔

c*******u
发帖数: 12899
66
拜托你不要总用"Do you know...." 来质问人,如果你手上真有可靠的资料,拿出来分
享一下嘛。也让我们长长知识。

【在 a***d 的大作中提到】
: you know how many people work in the OR?
: How many people is needed to do one surgery?
: Who do which part, cut in, close up?
: Do you know there are PAs?

t**f
发帖数: 2360
67
nod nod
尿失禁大都是多产妇会得,一般人生个2-3个都没事儿的

close

【在 a***d 的大作中提到】
: you can only see the outside, do you know how many layes are needed to close
: inside?
: inside is far more inportant than outsdie.
:
: ,

t**f
发帖数: 2360
68
是啊,科普教育不是这么讲的

【在 c*******u 的大作中提到】
: 拜托你不要总用"Do you know...." 来质问人,如果你手上真有可靠的资料,拿出来分
: 享一下嘛。也让我们长长知识。

c*******u
发帖数: 12899
69
从昨儿晚上到现在,该ID抛出无数个"Do you know...",就是没有拿出一个实实在在的
数据。建议该ID去学习一下院长的科普是咋写的。

【在 t**f 的大作中提到】
: 是啊,科普教育不是这么讲的
o********a
发帖数: 242
70
我做手术的时候确实不是OB缝合的,当时OB一边做手术一边还跟我介绍做缝合的人是谁
,夸她的技术好。所以我想OB以外的人负责缝合可能挺常见的吧。
话说做手术的时候那些人表现得真轻松,谈笑风生的,还在那八卦什么来着。
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a***d
发帖数: 1347
71
google is your best friend. you can learn lots of it.
I just share with LZ, at least encourage her to try.
c*******u
发帖数: 12899
72
得,那做科研的人不用费劲8拉查文献了,直接都GOOGLE去。。。

【在 a***d 的大作中提到】
: google is your best friend. you can learn lots of it.
: I just share with LZ, at least encourage her to try.

t**f
发帖数: 2360
73
也许这些都是第一章,给读者们一堆排比设问,然后就回去找资料去了

【在 c*******u 的大作中提到】
: 从昨儿晚上到现在,该ID抛出无数个"Do you know...",就是没有拿出一个实实在在的
: 数据。建议该ID去学习一下院长的科普是咋写的。

t**f
发帖数: 2360
74
越是高职位的越只干关键的活
比如心脏搭桥这样的大手术,从早上4-5点一直忙到下午3-4点,搭桥的主任也就来个40
分钟,一边和大家谈笑风生一边做手术,然后就走人了

【在 o********a 的大作中提到】
: 我做手术的时候确实不是OB缝合的,当时OB一边做手术一边还跟我介绍做缝合的人是谁
: ,夸她的技术好。所以我想OB以外的人负责缝合可能挺常见的吧。
: 话说做手术的时候那些人表现得真轻松,谈笑风生的,还在那八卦什么来着。

J*****n
发帖数: 154
75
我只是重复我ob的原话而已。

【在 r*f 的大作中提到】
: 内检会引发infection? ob用手套吧
c*******g
发帖数: 2472
76
Not with my first OB doctor.
To her, it is so easy to have a C-section instead of going through the whole
labor with me. C-section only takes 15 minutes.
So she told me that I should have a C-section even before I was induced.
2 years later, I check with other OB dcotors and other nurses, they told me
that what she told me was wrong. But I do not have enough medical background
, so I had to listen to her first place.
With a different OB doctor, I do not even need to go through a C-section for
my 1st baby.
Most doctors are good. But there are some bad doctors there. They are not
that much wrong. They are just more selfish.

【在 c*******u 的大作中提到】
: 这跟你想要什么没有关系,我相信绝大多数医生会跟据产妇自身的情况给出最好的解决
: 方式。
: 我当年生大宝也是剖的,我还傻乎乎地问:"Do I have other choice?"
: 医生回答:"Yes, dear, you always have your own choice, but your choice at
: this time is always wrong."
: 我相信我对于自身医疗需求的了解,远远不如医生专业。

p********m
发帖数: 80
77
"C" will be better.

【在 f******r 的大作中提到】
: 本来去宝宝板问得,后来想想那里大多是头胎
: 需要定ob, 现在大部分ob都不做VBAC(C之后自然生)
: 只有很少的医生愿意做
: 不知道第一胎是破腹产的妈妈们第二胎都是怎么生的
: 我第一胎生了快三天,最后开九指发烧婴儿头还没下来
: 拉去挨了一刀,后来伤口裂开没长好
: 第二胎其实很想自己试试
: 但是很担心 再生个三天,再挨一刀。怀疑第二个还是个大头宝宝。
: 家里还有个喜欢操心的老大
: 三天见不到我,我都害怕她茶饭不思

c*******g
发帖数: 2472
78
It is good to listen to your doctor if you have a good doctor in the first
place.
My first OB doctor told me, "well, I know you are upset about the C-section.
If you want to have a VBAC for your next baby, change your doctor."
I did. And I went through VBAC fine.
The other OB doctors told me that she should never treat me that way in the
first place....

【在 c*******u 的大作中提到】
: 这跟你想要什么没有关系,我相信绝大多数医生会跟据产妇自身的情况给出最好的解决
: 方式。
: 我当年生大宝也是剖的,我还傻乎乎地问:"Do I have other choice?"
: 医生回答:"Yes, dear, you always have your own choice, but your choice at
: this time is always wrong."
: 我相信我对于自身医疗需求的了解,远远不如医生专业。

c*******g
发帖数: 2472
79
Again, that is just my case.
I think if you can help it, "natural birth is better for the child
according to a number of studies"...
The condition is that if you can help, that means not endangering MOM & BABY
's life....

【在 J*****n 的大作中提到】
: 不明白剖腹产和胆小有什么关系。我老大是剖的,胆子挺大
k******n
发帖数: 230
80
Natual birth 比 C 要好是毋容置疑的, 楼上有些同学硬要说NB导致尿失敬什么的怎
么不看看C的最差后果呢?
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j**********0
发帖数: 162
81
我就是VBAC的,头胎C是在国内, 胎儿太大。
第二胎在美国生的,因为没有人照顾,选择自然生, 想恢复快一点。但是OB没有给我
用麻药,她说这样PUSH时准确一点。老二也很大,快9磅了。侧切了,用了产钳。因为
PUSH太久,得了子宫下垂。
现在想想,不如C,没有痛苦,不会下垂。
c*******g
发帖数: 2472
82
9磅, that is very big...
Mine is less than 7...



【在 j**********0 的大作中提到】
: 我就是VBAC的,头胎C是在国内, 胎儿太大。
: 第二胎在美国生的,因为没有人照顾,选择自然生, 想恢复快一点。但是OB没有给我
: 用麻药,她说这样PUSH时准确一点。老二也很大,快9磅了。侧切了,用了产钳。因为
: PUSH太久,得了子宫下垂。
: 现在想想,不如C,没有痛苦,不会下垂。

V*****8
发帖数: 33122
83
能自然生绝对是自然生。
我自己生,没有侧切,二度撕裂,OB亲自缝针。后来我用小镜子看过,完全没有痕迹,
光洁如昔,就像没生过孩子一样。
我国内的女同学,样本8个,全部是C的(基本国内就是这个趋势),住的都是所谓顶级
医院名医主持,现在每个人都说肚子上的印子退不掉,一个生完大半年了还隐隐作痛
J*****n
发帖数: 154
84
天,你这英语还真是难懂啊

BABY

【在 c*******g 的大作中提到】
: Again, that is just my case.
: I think if you can help it, "natural birth is better for the child
: according to a number of studies"...
: The condition is that if you can help, that means not endangering MOM & BABY
: 's life....

C**********e
发帖数: 1608
85
看了半天。
我头胎是剖的。恢复得也很好。原因是羊水破了,快流光了,宫颈一点没开。紧急情况
,就剖了。我当时催产针什么都打了。有宫缩,就是宫口不开。旧社会就是难产的典型
。孩子生下来快8磅了,很大个子,21INCH。我觉得要我自己生,疼死我了。幸好是剖
的。
第二胎,医生问我的意见。没得说,我选scheduled C section。两个人都上班。老大
上幼儿园。这样时间上好安排。大人小孩都准备充分。何乐而不为。还能给老二生日选
个好日子。
b*********t
发帖数: 877
86
我c了两次,不同的医生,都是医生亲自从头到尾操作的。

【在 a***d 的大作中提到】
: you know how many people work in the OR?
: How many people is needed to do one surgery?
: Who do which part, cut in, close up?
: Do you know there are PAs?

o********a
发帖数: 242
87
问题是你们确定医生在就缝针了吗?我的医生也从头到尾都在没闲着,但是他告诉我是
另外一个人缝的针。

【在 b*********t 的大作中提到】
: 我c了两次,不同的医生,都是医生亲自从头到尾操作的。
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