i******m
发帖数: 2591 | |
w********e
发帖数: 4186 | 2 就算是我的孩子学得比较好，我也不能得出结论来代表种族啊。
话说我的孩子文科学得也蛮好的，英文，历史啥的分数也比平均分高，所以，接受了学
校重文的影响，也没丢家里重理的传统？ |
m**m
发帖数: 1444 | |
w********e
发帖数: 4186 | 4 问题换掉了？前面的回答显得很傻了
数理化当然有用，将来上医学院还是看理科成绩的 |
i******m
发帖数: 2591 | 5 是啊 ：））
【在 w********e 的大作中提到】
: 问题换掉了？前面的回答显得很傻了
: 数理化当然有用，将来上医学院还是看理科成绩的
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i**e
发帖数: 19242 | 6 我觉着是
但是这并不表示数理好的就没有前途钱途
小的时候，基本教育的时候，尽量全面培养全面发展吧 |
i******m
发帖数: 2591 | 7 上天才班有什么用？美国的天才班水分很大是个人都上，不是吗？
【在 m**m 的大作中提到】
: 重要，上天才班就是靠数学成绩。
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a*w
发帖数: 4495 | 8 理科成绩不是必须的。
A study at Harvard Medical School has shown that students are successful in
their medical studies regardless of undergraduate concentration, providing
that they have had adequate science preparation. Students are urged to
strive for a balanced and liberal education rather than specialized training
. No preference is given to applicants who have majored in the sciences over
those who have majored in the humanities.
【在 w********e 的大作中提到】
: 问题换掉了？前面的回答显得很傻了
: 数理化当然有用，将来上医学院还是看理科成绩的
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i******e
发帖数: 1720 | 9 My understanding is - although a student can major in anything, but a
series of science core classes, especially in Bio, have to be fulfilled in
order to apply for medical school. That's "adequate science preparation" as you mentioned in your quote.
For that reason, many pre-med students choose to major in Biology/Chemistry or similar discipline as their majors, so they can fulfill both pre-med and the major requirement with same set of course work. Of course one can major in History or Geography and appy for med school. However, he/she will then have to fulfill both the history curriculum AND pre-med curriculum requirements.
This also explain the confusion of "pre-med". It is NOT a major. It's a
track that the students taking courses to meet the medical school's pre-req. Many college would provide advising on how to fulfill the medical school
pre-req requirements within the school's course offering. The student still
needs to meet the requirement of the major he/she choose.
in
training
over
【在 a*w 的大作中提到】
: 理科成绩不是必须的。
: A study at Harvard Medical School has shown that students are successful in
: their medical studies regardless of undergraduate concentration, providing
: that they have had adequate science preparation. Students are urged to
: strive for a balanced and liberal education rather than specialized training
: . No preference is given to applicants who have majored in the sciences over
: those who have majored in the humanities.
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i******m
发帖数: 2591 | 10 嗯，liberal art 背景的医生很多阿，我指的是一般医学院的医生，哈佛之类的另算
in
training
over
【在 a*w 的大作中提到】
: 理科成绩不是必须的。
: A study at Harvard Medical School has shown that students are successful in
: their medical studies regardless of undergraduate concentration, providing
: that they have had adequate science preparation. Students are urged to
: strive for a balanced and liberal education rather than specialized training
: . No preference is given to applicants who have majored in the sciences over
: those who have majored in the humanities.
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i******m
发帖数: 2591 | 11 Bio被买买提的wsn鉴定为文科
in
mentioned in your quote.
Chemistry orsimilar discipline as their majors, so they can fulfill both pre
-med and the major requirement with same set of course work. Of course one
can major in History or Geography and appy for med school. However, he/she
will then have to fulfill both the history curriculum AND pre-med
curriculum requirements.
req. Many college would provide advising on how to fulfill the medical
school
still
【在 i******e 的大作中提到】
: My understanding is - although a student can major in anything, but a
: series of science core classes, especially in Bio, have to be fulfilled in
: order to apply for medical school. That's "adequate science preparation" as you mentioned in your quote.
: For that reason, many pre-med students choose to major in Biology/Chemistry or similar discipline as their majors, so they can fulfill both pre-med and the major requirement with same set of course work. Of course one can major in History or Geography and appy for med school. However, he/she will then have to fulfill both the history curriculum AND pre-med curriculum requirements.
: This also explain the confusion of "pre-med". It is NOT a major. It's a
: track that the students taking courses to meet the medical school's pre-req. Many college would provide advising on how to fulfill the medical school
: pre-req requirements within the school's course offering. The student still
: needs to meet the requirement of the major he/she choose.
:
: in
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i******e
发帖数: 1720 | 12 别把 Liberal Arts, professional, vocational, Humanity, Science, Engineering
搞混了。
【在 i******m 的大作中提到】
: Bio被买买提的wsn鉴定为文科
:
: in
: mentioned in your quote.
: Chemistry orsimilar discipline as their majors, so they can fulfill both pre
: -med and the major requirement with same set of course work. Of course one
: can major in History or Geography and appy for med school. However, he/she
: will then have to fulfill both the history curriculum AND pre-med
: curriculum requirements.
: req. Many college would provide advising on how to fulfill the medical
|
B******1
发帖数: 9094 | 13 Not quite right. You have to be exceptional on all cylinders.
【在 m**m 的大作中提到】
: 重要，上天才班就是靠数学成绩。
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B******1
发帖数: 9094 | 14 I would say logic reasoning is the key for any majors. Regarding logic
reasoning, solving a tough AMC 12 question and dissecting an economy
review are equally beneficial and challenging. |
a*w
发帖数: 4495 | 15 每个专业logic reasoning的需要不会一样强烈。
【在 B******1 的大作中提到】
: I would say logic reasoning is the key for any majors. Regarding logic
: reasoning, solving a tough AMC 12 question and dissecting an economy
: review are equally beneficial and challenging.
|
i******e
发帖数: 1720 | 16 ^ You hit the nail on the head.
【在 B******1 的大作中提到】
: I would say logic reasoning is the key for any majors. Regarding logic
: reasoning, solving a tough AMC 12 question and dissecting an economy
: review are equally beneficial and challenging.
|
i******m
发帖数: 2591 | 17 logic reasoning是怎么培养出来的？ 不要跟我说这玩艺靠基因就把我打发了 ：））
【在 B******1 的大作中提到】
: I would say logic reasoning is the key for any majors. Regarding logic
: reasoning, solving a tough AMC 12 question and dissecting an economy
: review are equally beneficial and challenging.
|
B******1
发帖数: 9094 | 18 Like watering the MIT board? Just kidding. They are too young for that.
One way to train a kid in this subject is to join a debate team at his/her
school or after-school. Kids can learn "correct" and "incorrect" logic
reasoning and efficient and inefficient arguments. They might even choose a
topic like "Should we support SB-48 in California?" Of course, their way of
debating such topic is polite and logical, instead of name-calling and scare
tactics.
【在 i******m 的大作中提到】
: logic reasoning是怎么培养出来的？ 不要跟我说这玩艺靠基因就把我打发了 ：））
|
i******m
发帖数: 2591 | 19 哈哈
至少也得跟北滩讨论一下才能提高阿
你说的这个只是logic reasoning的一种吧
我们老中搞传统数理化的logic reasoning呢？
a
of
scare
【在 B******1 的大作中提到】
: Like watering the MIT board? Just kidding. They are too young for that.
: One way to train a kid in this subject is to join a debate team at his/her
: school or after-school. Kids can learn "correct" and "incorrect" logic
: reasoning and efficient and inefficient arguments. They might even choose a
: topic like "Should we support SB-48 in California?" Of course, their way of
: debating such topic is polite and logical, instead of name-calling and scare
: tactics.
|
B******1
发帖数: 9094 | 20 She is a queen whose name makes my hand shiver.
Our 传统数理化的logic reasoning is mainly straight-forward deduction, one of
the techniques taught in logic reasoning. It's definitely not the whole
story!!!
【在 i******m 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈
: 至少也得跟北滩讨论一下才能提高阿
: 你说的这个只是logic reasoning的一种吧
: 我们老中搞传统数理化的logic reasoning呢？
:
: a
: of
: scare
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i******m
发帖数: 2591 | 21 LOL
展开说说还有什么other techniques in logic reasoning?
of
【在 B******1 的大作中提到】
: She is a queen whose name makes my hand shiver.
: Our 传统数理化的logic reasoning is mainly straight-forward deduction, one of
: the techniques taught in logic reasoning. It's definitely not the whole
: story!!!
|
a*w
发帖数: 4495 | 22
not both hands?
of
【在 B******1 的大作中提到】
: She is a queen whose name makes my hand shiver.
: Our 传统数理化的logic reasoning is mainly straight-forward deduction, one of
: the techniques taught in logic reasoning. It's definitely not the whole
: story!!!
|
p*d
发帖数: 1128 | |
i**e
发帖数: 19242 | 24 哈哈哈
【在 i******m 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈
: 至少也得跟北滩讨论一下才能提高阿
: 你说的这个只是logic reasoning的一种吧
: 我们老中搞传统数理化的logic reasoning呢？
:
: a
: of
: scare
|
i**e
发帖数: 19242 | 25 哈哈哈
of
【在 B******1 的大作中提到】
: She is a queen whose name makes my hand shiver.
: Our 传统数理化的logic reasoning is mainly straight-forward deduction, one of
: the techniques taught in logic reasoning. It's definitely not the whole
: story!!!
|
B******1
发帖数: 9094 | |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 27 简单logic是在小学就应该学的。有些3-4年级的数学课本里就开始有了。
哲学专业的人也会学。
数学和计算机专业的人学得就更多了。
美国小学教育重视文比较厉害。从人文专业毕业的老师应该占大多数吧？语言是第一工
具。年级越高，其它方面的比重就变得越来越大。 |
a*w
发帖数: 4495 | 28 美国大学本科教育也是以文为主，甚至工科专业的课程表上也有一半是
文科的。
【在 w********9 的大作中提到】
: 简单logic是在小学就应该学的。有些3-4年级的数学课本里就开始有了。
: 哲学专业的人也会学。
: 数学和计算机专业的人学得就更多了。
: 美国小学教育重视文比较厉害。从人文专业毕业的老师应该占大多数吧？语言是第一工
: 具。年级越高，其它方面的比重就变得越来越大。
|
h***y
发帖数: 10334 | 29 不完全对。】
【在 w********e 的大作中提到】
: 问题换掉了？前面的回答显得很傻了
: 数理化当然有用，将来上医学院还是看理科成绩的
|
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 30 logic was a part of lower trivia
trivial
低年级小学生都可以开始学基本逻辑。我自己就是小学（高年级）自学的。 |
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w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 31
我的印象是：1/3多些吧？
【在 a*w 的大作中提到】
: 美国大学本科教育也是以文为主，甚至工科专业的课程表上也有一半是
: 文科的。
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i******m
发帖数: 2591 | 32 什么叫lower trivia?
【在 w********9 的大作中提到】
: logic was a part of lower trivia
: trivial
: 低年级小学生都可以开始学基本逻辑。我自己就是小学（高年级）自学的。
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B******1
发帖数: 9094 | 33 I thought both are compliments. Of course, this is debatable . . .
【在 p*d 的大作中提到】
: 可怜的北滩同学最近已经躺着中枪两回了。
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w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 34
罗马帝国的基础人文教育：语法、修辞和逻辑。
【在 i******m 的大作中提到】
: 什么叫lower trivia?
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w********e
发帖数: 4186 | 35 看，没说只看
【在 h***y 的大作中提到】
: 不完全对。】
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w*********y
发帖数: 7895 | 36 Another way to improve logical reasoning is to read paper written by Kant.
haha.
Frankly speaking, I think critical thinking/skepticism is more important for
kids to learn, instead of logical reasoning. Kids need to learn how to
challenge themselves through critical evaluation of their own thinking and statements.
a
of
scare
【在 B******1 的大作中提到】
: Like watering the MIT board? Just kidding. They are too young for that.
: One way to train a kid in this subject is to join a debate team at his/her
: school or after-school. Kids can learn "correct" and "incorrect" logic
: reasoning and efficient and inefficient arguments. They might even choose a
: topic like "Should we support SB-48 in California?" Of course, their way of
: debating such topic is polite and logical, instead of name-calling and scare
: tactics.
|
n********h
发帖数: 13135 | 37 既然躺这也中枪, 我就说两句吧. 我同意北大同学的观点, 逻辑很重要, 学文学理都重
要. 比如你学文, 你逻辑不好, 显然不能是个好律师. 逻辑好, 学数学也容易好. 但是
学物理,除了逻辑, 要空间想象能力比较强. 至于培养吗, 辩论是个好方法.
【在 p*d 的大作中提到】
: 可怜的北滩同学最近已经躺着中枪两回了。
|
w*********y
发帖数: 7895 | 38 I think economics is considered as behavioral science if I remember it
correctly.
below. |
w*********y
发帖数: 7895 | 39 I think the goal of learning is not just trying to mastery specific subjects
/topics. Instead, the goal of learning is to train children to explore
questions, think independently, evaluate critically about their findings.
Through such learning processes, they grow within and develop critical
thinking skills that benefit their cognitive development.
【在 i******m 的大作中提到】
: 有大娃的父母来说说？
: 学好数理化还有用吗？
|
p*****n
发帖数: 122 | 40 也不都是
有的很难
有的容易
【在 i******m 的大作中提到】
: 上天才班有什么用？美国的天才班水分很大是个人都上，不是吗？
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p*****n
发帖数: 122 | 41 你去文学城看看吧
那里例子多些
在这看辩论没啥用
都是小娃家长
说的是自己的判断
还没经历过
【在 i******m 的大作中提到】
: 有大娃的父母来说说？
: 学好数理化还有用吗？
|
c**********d
发帖数: 1933 | 42 天才班是个人都上？ 只有2-3%啊，同学。就算是数学快班，也最多1/3啊。上这种班没
用，不上的话，心里更抓瞎了。上了，进度快点，心里还稍微踏实点。一般到了小学高
年级或者初中，数学，英语都有快慢班了。大学学数理化的，转其他专业也容易啊。学
数学的，在花街不要太吃香啊。
【在 i******m 的大作中提到】
: 上天才班有什么用？美国的天才班水分很大是个人都上，不是吗？
|
s****i
发帖数: 2993 | 43 and? 99.99% 天才 are losers.
【在 m**m 的大作中提到】
: 重要，上天才班就是靠数学成绩。
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m*******3
发帖数: 874 | 44 等娃长大了
都不知道花街还有木有了
【在 c**********d 的大作中提到】
: 天才班是个人都上？ 只有2-3%啊，同学。就算是数学快班，也最多1/3啊。上这种班没
: 用，不上的话，心里更抓瞎了。上了，进度快点，心里还稍微踏实点。一般到了小学高
: 年级或者初中，数学，英语都有快慢班了。大学学数理化的，转其他专业也容易啊。学
: 数学的，在花街不要太吃香啊。
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r*f
发帖数: 39119 | 45 哈哈哈，够狠
【在 m*******3 的大作中提到】
: 等娃长大了
: 都不知道花街还有木有了
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s*****r
发帖数: 1032 | 46 我娃不大。我们经历的中国式教育多重理轻文，美国教育似乎相对均衡，所以一对比，
会有那样的感觉。
【在 i******m 的大作中提到】
: 有大娃的父母来说说？
: 学好数理化还有用吗？
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s*****r
发帖数: 1032 | 47 部分同意。logical reasoning在需要大量发散思维的学科里，用处没有那么明显，有
时这个能力太强甚至会约束创造性。
【在 B******1 的大作中提到】
: I would say logic reasoning is the key for any majors. Regarding logic
: reasoning, solving a tough AMC 12 question and dissecting an economy
: review are equally beneficial and challenging.
|
s*****r
发帖数: 1032 | 48 re critical thinking
plus my favorite, divergent thinking:)
for
statements.
【在 w*********y 的大作中提到】
: Another way to improve logical reasoning is to read paper written by Kant.
: haha.
: Frankly speaking, I think critical thinking/skepticism is more important for
: kids to learn, instead of logical reasoning. Kids need to learn how to
: challenge themselves through critical evaluation of their own thinking and statements.
:
: a
: of
: scare
|
