q****6
发帖数: 837 | 1 Finally we have more sports discussion on this forum! Really love the
baseball and soccer daddy post. Decide to share my son's swimming journey
for the reference of interested parties. (Sorry my writing will be dry and
has to be in English.)
1) About 4.5 yrs old:
Started swim class, once a week, progress is 3 steps forward, 1 step
backward. He liked it since he likes to play in the water.That initial
passion kept him going for about 6 months.
2) Natural passion died, want to quit:
I put a new swim pant (with shark pattern he liked) next to his bed. He woke
up, surprised and happy. Went back for another month.
3) Talking about signing out again:
Moved him to 1 on 1 private class with the coach he liked the most. Went on
for another 3 months.
4) Finally quit for about 6 months.-- I can't think of anything else to
encourage him to stay. Plus we moved to the other side of the town, further
away from the swim class location.
5) His sister loves swimming and we decided to start her swim class. My son
is very concerned the little sister will beat him soon, so he decided to
rejoin swim class to just stay ahead of her. We started to drive across the
town weekly.
6) This time his body is more ready, he surprisingly progressed really fast
(with coach evaluation, skipping steps/classes while progressing). He got so
motivated, started to love swimming. Want to go there early to watch swim
team, thinks about how to swim on the way to the class, want to practice on
his own after the class. etc. etc. But he is very firm he will not join swim
team after graduation from swim class.
7) I joined swim class myself. I know breaststroke, what's the harm to learn
all the other styles myself and get some exercise? Now we have a meaningful
casual discussion at dinner table about swimming. Both kids liked the fact
daddy is also swimming and became more passionate about the topic.
8) One day my son asked:"what really is swim team about?". I gave out the
answer I prepared already:"It's about medal, certificate and trophy." As
expected, he said:"Sign me up!"
8) Now my estimate is he will graduate from all swim classes in 2 months (he
will turn 6 then). Graduation means all movements (freestyle, butterfly,
breaststroke, backstroke) are legal and can swim 25 meters length back and
forth (total 50 meters) with very little rest.No measurement of speed yet.
From parents eyes, he swims beautifully now. And he asks to swim everyday.So
far the class we took has always been once a week, and we can't take him
for practice everyday either, hope we can do more during summer break to
meet his ask.
What I'm proud of myself is there was no tear nor over push involved. It's a
happy journey with some strategic influence involved.
We also provided him opportunities to do a number of other sports, he loves
every one of them so far. Swim journey is the longest so far and with the
most struggle, document to provide some reference value to parents facing
sports dilemma from time to time.
Welcome comments and sharing regarding kids swim experience. | l*******a
发帖数: 878 | 2 顶一下，写的很好
另外，主要你儿子有好胜心和上进心，所以几个关键地方都坚持下来了。以后应该越来
越容易了，孩子有兴趣了。
我们孩子不在乎自己游的好不好的家长才痛苦啊
woke
【在 q****6 的大作中提到】
: Finally we have more sports discussion on this forum! Really love the
: baseball and soccer daddy post. Decide to share my son's swimming journey
: for the reference of interested parties. (Sorry my writing will be dry and
: has to be in English.)
: 1) About 4.5 yrs old:
: Started swim class, once a week, progress is 3 steps forward, 1 step
: backward. He liked it since he likes to play in the water.That initial
: passion kept him going for about 6 months.
: 2) Natural passion died, want to quit:
: I put a new swim pant (with shark pattern he liked) next to his bed. He woke
| w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 3 我的小孩两年前参加过两个短期游泳班，后来就再也没有游过泳。现在她应该就像完全没有接触过游
泳。身上都是能奔跑的肌肉，身体的比重大，也许学习游泳会困难一些？ | q****6
发帖数: 837 | 4 He is a competitive kid in nature. However he didn't care that much about
his progress either until he rejoined and felt his big improvement this time
. I agree it's going to be easy now going forward. Like that baseball and
soccer daddy story, just be patient, all the practice and involvement
accumulated will sooner or later yield a positive result. Usually those
positive result is the biggest motivation for kids to do more and do even
better.
【在 l*******a 的大作中提到】
: 顶一下，写的很好
: 另外，主要你儿子有好胜心和上进心，所以几个关键地方都坚持下来了。以后应该越来
: 越容易了，孩子有兴趣了。
: 我们孩子不在乎自己游的好不好的家长才痛苦啊
:
: woke
| q****6
发帖数: 837 | 5 How old is your kid? I'm not sure about a 2 year gap, but my son had 6mths
gap and I thought he would go backwards when he rejoined. Surprisingly he
didn't forget any. Especially if your kid still plays in the water from time
to time, shouldn't be too much lost with the gap if any lost at all.
I discussed with other swim parents and concluded if you don't want to go
through the struggle like I had with my son, then start a little late like 5
years old or maybe even 6 years old, their bodies are more ready then and
the journey will be more smooth.
全没有接触过游
【在 w********9 的大作中提到】
: 我的小孩两年前参加过两个短期游泳班，后来就再也没有游过泳。现在她应该就像完全没有接触过游
: 泳。身上都是能奔跑的肌肉，身体的比重大，也许学习游泳会困难一些？
| h*********m
发帖数: 68 | 6 Thanks for sharing.
游泳我最担心的是坚持的问题。学各种姿式的时候还是比较fun的，会了之后上游泳队
每天练习纠正动作来回的游，会不会比较枯燥啊？ | m*****8
发帖数: 4059 | | w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 8
time
5
她9岁都过了，在6-7岁时学过。但她是喜欢奔跑的陆地动物，还没有多少时间接触水。
我只是想让她去水里也去多玩玩，没有更高发展的意图。（我自己过了20岁才学游泳，
水平比较差，几个月前还准备了几十盘DVD准备陪她，而她却不愿意暂时舍弃足球。）
她看上去不重，其实很结实，净重有72磅以上（按她的年龄和身高，平均应该在65左右
）。她学游泳可能会困难些。
【在 q****6 的大作中提到】
: How old is your kid? I'm not sure about a 2 year gap, but my son had 6mths
: gap and I thought he would go backwards when he rejoined. Surprisingly he
: didn't forget any. Especially if your kid still plays in the water from time
: to time, shouldn't be too much lost with the gap if any lost at all.
: I discussed with other swim parents and concluded if you don't want to go
: through the struggle like I had with my son, then start a little late like 5
: years old or maybe even 6 years old, their bodies are more ready then and
: the journey will be more smooth.
:
: 全没有接触过游
| q****6
发帖数: 837 | 9 Not everybody has to learn swim seriously as long as they can survive in
water to cover safty. I'm not sure if I will let my son take swim seriously
in long term yet. But I do like the body shape impact on boys after long
time swimming if not for any other benefits.
BTW, I think running and swimming are not mutually exclusive sports for a
given child.
【在 w********9 的大作中提到】
:
: time
: 5
: 她9岁都过了，在6-7岁时学过。但她是喜欢奔跑的陆地动物，还没有多少时间接触水。
: 我只是想让她去水里也去多玩玩，没有更高发展的意图。（我自己过了20岁才学游泳，
: 水平比较差，几个月前还准备了几十盘DVD准备陪她，而她却不愿意暂时舍弃足球。）
: 她看上去不重，其实很结实，净重有72磅以上（按她的年龄和身高，平均应该在65左右
: ）。她学游泳可能会困难些。
| w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 10
seriously
a
主要是我的小孩比重比较大（肉比较结实），一般的旁人不会看出她上了70磅。我看过
一个资料，说是黑人学游泳比较困难（骨头硬而重）。白人骨架粗大，亚裔骨头最细也
最松软。
我有个女同学过去是个国家二级游泳运动员，那时她看起来挺虚泡的。我第一次听人说
她是运动员，非常吃惊。我刚才查到一个东西，只看了个开头，也说游泳和跑步的运动员脂肪比
差异不小。
http://www.sportsci.org/news/compeat/fat.html
【在 q****6 的大作中提到】
: Not everybody has to learn swim seriously as long as they can survive in
: water to cover safty. I'm not sure if I will let my son take swim seriously
: in long term yet. But I do like the body shape impact on boys after long
: time swimming if not for any other benefits.
: BTW, I think running and swimming are not mutually exclusive sports for a
: given child.
| | | x********a
发帖数: 225 | 11 Thanks. Did your son benefit most and learn all style mainly from private
teacher, or 1 on 1 instruction?
When my daughter was 4, she took a couple of beginner swim sessions and did
not learn much at all. | q****6
发帖数: 837 | 12 He benefited from both format greatly. Group lesson is usually 2-3 kids with
1 coach, so for 30mins class you swim 15mins per kid.But according to my
son you can watch other kids swim to figure out how you should use that
technique (things others did right, wrong, etc.) Also I think they get a
needed break. Private class cost double also you get double minutes. It's
kind of intense for 30mins non-stop for young kids. At that time he is
outgrowing nap so that intensity may eventually discouraged him. But with
private class you connect with one coach you know well, vs. you don't know
which coach you get for the next class and some he may not have much
chemistry with. How the swim class is structured at that school is with
group lesson they constantly evaluate you and move you up the structured
learning (assign number to each step) if you progress. The down side of that
system is if you don't move up quickly, then you might get discouraged and
are under unnecessary pressure. With private class, nobody judges you and
you just have fun. At that point in his learning curve, it was a good thing
to take that judgement off and just let him have fun and learn. Hope this
helps.
did
【在 x********a 的大作中提到】
: Thanks. Did your son benefit most and learn all style mainly from private
: teacher, or 1 on 1 instruction?
: When my daughter was 4, she took a couple of beginner swim sessions and did
: not learn much at all.
| x********a
发帖数: 225 | 13 多谢详细回复。看来你们主要是private 或semi-private 学的, 而且你家娃学习上心
，进步快是一定的。 我们以前在county public pool和daycare 都是一个group １０
个kids玩, 所以一个session,６次课也没学到什么。看来等娃６岁以后还是要找
swimming school and private teachers, 要坚持和practice..
【在 q****6 的大作中提到】
: He benefited from both format greatly. Group lesson is usually 2-3 kids with
: 1 coach, so for 30mins class you swim 15mins per kid.But according to my
: son you can watch other kids swim to figure out how you should use that
: technique (things others did right, wrong, etc.) Also I think they get a
: needed break. Private class cost double also you get double minutes. It's
: kind of intense for 30mins non-stop for young kids. At that time he is
: outgrowing nap so that intensity may eventually discouraged him. But with
: private class you connect with one coach you know well, vs. you don't know
: which coach you get for the next class and some he may not have much
: chemistry with. How the swim class is structured at that school is with
| q****6
发帖数: 837 | 14 Yes, yes, I never tried those 1:6 ratio YMCA type of swim class, not to
mention 1:10 ratio.
【在 x********a 的大作中提到】
: 多谢详细回复。看来你们主要是private 或semi-private 学的, 而且你家娃学习上心
: ，进步快是一定的。 我们以前在county public pool和daycare 都是一个group １０
: 个kids玩, 所以一个session,６次课也没学到什么。看来等娃６岁以后还是要找
: swimming school and private teachers, 要坚持和practice..
| q****6
发帖数: 837 | 15 oh, I didn't do that much research. Honestly I only can provide one child's
case for reference value, not close to an expert for the topic of swimming.
动员脂肪比
【在 w********9 的大作中提到】
:
: seriously
: a
: 主要是我的小孩比重比较大（肉比较结实），一般的旁人不会看出她上了70磅。我看过
: 一个资料，说是黑人学游泳比较困难（骨头硬而重）。白人骨架粗大，亚裔骨头最细也
: 最松软。
: 我有个女同学过去是个国家二级游泳运动员，那时她看起来挺虚泡的。我第一次听人说
: 她是运动员，非常吃惊。我刚才查到一个东西，只看了个开头，也说游泳和跑步的运动员脂肪比
: 差异不小。
: http://www.sportsci.org/news/compeat/fat.html
| w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 16
s
.
你的经验，让我听了也很受益。如果我的小孩能练到高的水平，也可以考虑让高人指点
。不过，我觉得她比重大，只能玩玩游泳。突然想起来了：斯坦福女子篮球队有个很厉
害的中锋，相对其它打篮球的明显更胖。她以前打水球也很厉害。人过胖了，打篮球和
网球都更容易受伤。
【在 q****6 的大作中提到】
: oh, I didn't do that much research. Honestly I only can provide one child's
: case for reference value, not close to an expert for the topic of swimming.
:
: 动员脂肪比
| q****6
发帖数: 837 | 17 I always thought swim is good for boy and may not be good for girl because
of the body shape thing over time and that might be due to fat % you pointed
out.
I just read some of your other posts. Maybe you can write some new posts
putting all your experience together like your soccer coach take away. Would
benefit lots of readers here.
【在 w********9 的大作中提到】
:
: s
: .
: 你的经验，让我听了也很受益。如果我的小孩能练到高的水平，也可以考虑让高人指点
: 。不过，我觉得她比重大，只能玩玩游泳。突然想起来了：斯坦福女子篮球队有个很厉
: 害的中锋，相对其它打篮球的明显更胖。她以前打水球也很厉害。人过胖了，打篮球和
: 网球都更容易受伤。
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