y****i
发帖数: 2108 | 1 接近$200.
大清早6点街上一个鸟人鸟车都没有，红灯，right turn, 减速小心通过，被自动拍照
录像。
有没有机会申诉？ | t*****o
发帖数: 4919 | 2 没有
【在 y****i 的大作中提到】
: 接近$200.
: 大清早6点街上一个鸟人鸟车都没有，红灯，right turn, 减速小心通过，被自动拍照
: 录像。
: 有没有机会申诉？
| y****i
发帖数: 2108 | 3 我们州的法律在这点上很模糊，说是一般不应该给citation, 除了严重的和
unreasonale的例外。大清早一个车一个人都没有，也要开罚单？我想fuck签字的那个
警察的老母。 | T*****u
发帖数: 3257 | 4 应该是no turn on red 路口吧。
【在 y****i 的大作中提到】
: 我们州的法律在这点上很模糊，说是一般不应该给citation, 除了严重的和
: unreasonale的例外。大清早一个车一个人都没有，也要开罚单？我想fuck签字的那个
: 警察的老母。
| k******e
发帖数: 8870 | 5 我们这里的某个路口，几乎从那开车路过的人都会收到这样的一个TICKET。这个路口的
这种TICKET全美第一，都是照相机拍的。我也没例外，没有NO TURN ON RED，去argue
了一下，嘛用都没有。理由是红灯的时候必须FULLY STOP后才能右拐。 | t*****o
发帖数: 4919 | 6 那你把法律帖出来看看， 红灯等同于stop sign。
你stop不停, 警察看见哪里都会给ticket。
【在 y****i 的大作中提到】
: 我们州的法律在这点上很模糊，说是一般不应该给citation, 除了严重的和
: unreasonale的例外。大清早一个车一个人都没有，也要开罚单？我想fuck签字的那个
: 警察的老母。
| w********e
发帖数: 4186 | 7 把你的理由和法官去说吧，和这里的人说没用。
没有鸟人鸟车的话，你可以联合周围不喜欢红灯的人要求让红灯在某些时段变成闪灯什
么的，在这之前，最好遵守规则，等3秒钟不影响你的什么大事吧？听过太多经历事故
的人说，不知什么地方出来一辆车。 | y****i
发帖数: 2108 | 8 a. The driver of a vehicle which is stopped at a clearly marked stop line,
but if none, before entering the crosswalk on the near side of the
intersection, or, if none then at the point nearest the intersecting roadway
where the driver has a view of approaching traffic on the intersecting
roadway before entering the intersection in obedience to a steady red signal
may make a right turn, but shall yield the right-of-way to pedestrians and
other traffic proceeding as directed by the signal at the intersection,
except that municipal and county authorities may prohibit any such right
turn against a steady red signal at any intersection, which prohibition
shall be effective when a sign giving notice thereof is erected in a
location visible to traffic approaching the intersection.
Explanation on local newspaper:
Your right to turn right on red
By JEFF SCHMUCKER | Hernando Today
Published: October 05, 2011
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BROOKSVILLE From attorneys who advise readers how to fight your red light
camera tickets — here's another tip for those who receive one next year for
a right-on-red infraction.
In light of Brooksville City Council members approving to install 20 cameras
at intersections next year, at least two attorneys — who are also members
of the Florida Traffic Court Rules Committee — say radar devices that
capture a vehicle's speed as it goes through an intersection would likely
not be admissible in civil traffic court.
To recap, last year Florida lawmakers approved changes to red light camera
enforcement to include defending red light camera tickets in traffic court
rather than going before a hearing officer.
Also, motorists wouldn't receive a camera ticket by turning right at a red
light without stopping as long as they turned in a "careful and prudent
manner" — a term that was not defined.
But Brooksville City Council members attempted to do just that. When red
light cameras become operational next March, they could receive a ticket by
turning right at a red light if they do so while traveling at more than 5
mph.
Along with photo and video capabilities, the cameras also have radar devices
built into them that can record a vehicle's speed.
But therein lies a potential defense for those who choose to go before a
traffic court judge to challenge tickets.
David Haenel, an attorney and vice chairman of the Florida Traffic Court
Rules Committee, said many rules and procedures have to be followed for
speed devices to be admissible in court. And those attached on red light
cameras are not immune.
"Unequivocally yes, the speed shouldn't be allowed to be admitted into
evidence," Haenel said. "Who's going to come into court and say that the
radar devices are calibrated properly?"
Jason M. Melton, a Spring Hill attorney with Whittel & Melton LLC, agrees
and added that law enforcement officials are required to go through a
specific process to ensure that radar devices are calibrated correctly and
must keep record logs showing their maintenance.
"It's the equivalent of saying, 'Let's give these guns to these police
officers with specific rules, but then we'll give guns to this special set
of storm troopers over here without any of those rules,'" Melton said. "That
doesn't make any sense."
Similar concerns were made during Monday's meeting when Councilmember Joe
Bernardini asked red light camera contractors how uncertified radar devices
could be used to enforce the right-on red rule?
At that time, a representative of Sensys America Inc. claimed the cameras
weren't enforcing speed per se, and therefore wouldn't be subject to the
requirement.
Challenging your ticket
Under the new Florida red-light camera law, offenders will not only be sent
a ticket with copies of photos showing their vehicles committing a recorded
offense, but alleged offenders will also have the option of filling out an
affidavit challenging that they weren't the driver.
However, in using that defense, the vehicle owner is required to give up the
name and address of the person who was driving the vehicle when the offense
occurred.
Violators have 30 days to pay the $158 fine or send in the affidavit. Those
who lie on the document could face penalties.
They also have the option of challenging the ticket in court — where the
ticket fines are $100 more just as they would be if someone received a
regular traffic ticket.
Penalties could also include up to $500 in additional court costs and points
against the offender's license.
Melton cautioned there's no guarantee a judge will side with the driver, but
thinks those who argue some of the points previously mentioned could have a
good case.
He added that drivers also have another option — one some business owners
and council members fear many will follow.
"My advice is come to Spring Hill. We have a lot of businesses, so what are
you doing there in Brooksville," Melton said? "Many people do actually make
driving decisions based on things like speed traps. Just look at Waldo.
People go out of their way to avoid it because it's one big speed trap. And
for a small community, that's a big deal." | l******a
发帖数: 16364 | 9 no,节哀。。。我家吃过两张，1个月，nnd
【在 y****i 的大作中提到】
: 接近$200.
: 大清早6点街上一个鸟人鸟车都没有，红灯，right turn, 减速小心通过，被自动拍照
: 录像。
: 有没有机会申诉？
| a******t
发帖数: 2944 | 10 红灯的时候必须FULLY STOP后才能右拐。 | | | h********1
发帖数: 114 | 11 No chance. A picture is worth a thousand words. just pay it. | h****z
发帖数: 2009 | 12 我也收到一张，我是看到垂直方向的车在左拐，我右拐的方向没车。不过我还真不知道
右拐要全停，不知道能不能免掉 | M****o
发帖数: 13571 | 13 估计是当初没好好学习交规，或者考完了交规就忘了。非no turn on red的地方，红灯
右拐是要fully stop的。
【在 h****z 的大作中提到】
: 我也收到一张，我是看到垂直方向的车在左拐，我右拐的方向没车。不过我还真不知道
: 右拐要全停，不知道能不能免掉
| h****z
发帖数: 2009 | 14 嗯，就是搞了份题去考了
【在 M****o 的大作中提到】
: 估计是当初没好好学习交规，或者考完了交规就忘了。非no turn on red的地方，红灯
: 右拐是要fully stop的。
| l**y
发帖数: 2103 | |
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