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Parenting版 - Should you hold your kindgartener back by a year
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p*******h
发帖数: 184
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转发一个关于这个话题的文章,结论是晚上学一开始很有优势,但是这个优势上了中学
后就逐渐消失。年纪小的宝宝和年纪大的宝宝在一起学的快。
Erin Odom and her husband, of Mooresville, N.C., spent months last year
debating what to do about kindergarten for their daughter. They worried that
her fifth birthday fell too close to their school's cutoff date, which
would make her one of the youngest children in the class. Their nursery
schoolteacher assured them that their daughter would do "just fine" moving
ahead, Ms. Odom says, but "we didn't just want her to survive school—we
wanted her to thrive."
What ultimately persuaded them to hold her back for a year was talking to
other parents. "Those who had pushed their children ahead came to regret it,
" says Ms. Odom, "while parents who held their children back didn't." She
estimates that in her daughter's preschool class of nine children, roughly
half were held back, too.
This sort of voluntary delay is known as "academic redshirting," after the
practice in college sports of benching a hot prospect for a year to give him
time to practice and become an even better player during his four years of
eligibility.
According to the National Center for Education Statistics, some 6% of
kindergartners are redshirted nationally. But the numbers can vary by
neighborhood. Data from Connecticut's department of education show the
incidence of redshirting ranging from 2% in poorer school districts to 27%
in wealthier ones. Redshirting is easier for families that can afford an
extra year of child care or preschool tuition—and the practice can be
controversial because of the perceived advantage that it gives to such
children.
Ruth Gwily
When Jamie Bakal, an educational consultant with L.A. School Mates in Los
Angeles, started her business eight years ago, she saw that children who
turned 5 over the summer were often held back for schools with Sept. 1
cutoff dates. She says it then expanded to include children with birthdays
in April and May. Today, she says, schools are accepting children who have
turned 5 as early as the previous February and March—potentially allowing
for a 19-month age spread between classmates.
With the rise of demanding academic standards, states have employed their
own kind of redshirting by moving up cutoff dates for kindergarten entry. In
1975, only a few states required children to be 5 before Sept. 15. Today,
about three dozen states mandate it. Legislators in Connecticut are
considering moving up their kindergarten cutoff date as well, from Jan. 1 to
Oct. 1.
Some parents redshirt for the competitive edge that they think an extra year
brings—time for a child to grow bigger, smarter, more assertive. Yet Meg
Meeker, a pediatrician in Traverse City, Mich., and the author of "Strong
Mothers, Strong Sons," says that she sees too many parents redshirting
children for the wrong reasons. "While some children really do need that
extra year to mature," she says, "I've found redshirting often isn't about
what's best for the child. It's about what's best for the parents." Today's
hypercompetitive parents, she says, want their children to win in the
classroom and in sports, not only so the child looks good but so the parents
themselves can feel superior.
The research on the benefits of being older is mixed. Elizabeth Dhuey, an
economist at the University of Toronto Scarborough, didn't specifically
study redshirting, but she has published several studies showing that being
relatively older in a class has some advantages. In one large-scale study,
Prof. Dhuey and co-author Kelly Bedard compared the birth months and test
scores of more than 200,000 students in several countries. They found the
oldest students in fourth grade scored 4% to 12% higher than the youngest, a
trend that continued in eighth grade. In another large-scale study, Prof.
Dhuey and economist Stephen Lipscomb found the relatively oldest students
were 4% to 11% more likely to hold leadership positions in high school.
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According to the National Center for Education Statistics, some 6% of
kindergartners are 'redshirted' -- or voluntarily delayed -- nationally.
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Many researchers say that studies on redshirting show no long-term advantage
, with any early benefits fading by the time of middle school. As one
researcher put it: If you're redshirting as a way to get your child into
Harvard, you should rethink your strategy.
Princeton neuroscientist Samuel Wang, co-author of the book "Welcome to Your
Brain," says that being around more mature peers actually benefits younger
classmates, both behaviorally and academically. He points to a large study
that found schooling influences intelligence more than age: The youngest
children in a grade scored higher on IQ tests than children the same age one
grade lower.
Dr. Meeker cautions parents to think twice before holding a child back who
doesn't truly need it. "Redshirting is the initial seed that can grow into a
devastating parenting philosophy," she says. In essence, you're telling
your child that high achievement comes first—and if you can't do it
yourself, then we'll hold you back so you can. She adds, "Every redshirted
kindergartner eventually comes to know his parents' motives."
i**e
发帖数: 19242
2
thanks for sharing
not convincing enough
如果到初中大家都一样了
是不是说明如果没有hold back,这娃奏比别人落后了呢?
个人还是认为,多一年奏多一年的时间让大脑ready
如果父母的主导思想是 跟别人比 娃样样总是最牛的,不论hold back还是跳级还是正
常上学
都可以整出 devastating parenting philosophy 地

that

【在 p*******h 的大作中提到】
: 转发一个关于这个话题的文章,结论是晚上学一开始很有优势,但是这个优势上了中学
: 后就逐渐消失。年纪小的宝宝和年纪大的宝宝在一起学的快。
: Erin Odom and her husband, of Mooresville, N.C., spent months last year
: debating what to do about kindergarten for their daughter. They worried that
: her fifth birthday fell too close to their school's cutoff date, which
: would make her one of the youngest children in the class. Their nursery
: schoolteacher assured them that their daughter would do "just fine" moving
: ahead, Ms. Odom says, but "we didn't just want her to survive school—we
: wanted her to thrive."
: What ultimately persuaded them to hold her back for a year was talking to

u*****a
发帖数: 6276
3
统计科学就是对一些数据的联系做出假想的分析,非要得出些惊人的结论以便发表。信
不信就看你自己了。
N****n
发帖数: 4179
4
就算篇文章说的是真的,到中学以后早读书的学的快,但是上学不单是为了读书。很多
人宁愿孩子晚读书,主要是为了让孩子在人群中建立自信,而不是说学得快不快。
l******a
发帖数: 16364
5
你要是晚上学一年,你在班级里永远都是头,有点号召力的话孩子都听你的。年纪小的
会比较容易有依赖和被照顾的心理。

that

【在 p*******h 的大作中提到】
: 转发一个关于这个话题的文章,结论是晚上学一开始很有优势,但是这个优势上了中学
: 后就逐渐消失。年纪小的宝宝和年纪大的宝宝在一起学的快。
: Erin Odom and her husband, of Mooresville, N.C., spent months last year
: debating what to do about kindergarten for their daughter. They worried that
: her fifth birthday fell too close to their school's cutoff date, which
: would make her one of the youngest children in the class. Their nursery
: schoolteacher assured them that their daughter would do "just fine" moving
: ahead, Ms. Odom says, but "we didn't just want her to survive school—we
: wanted her to thrive."
: What ultimately persuaded them to hold her back for a year was talking to

m*****8
发帖数: 4059
6
如果是体育方面,晚的有明显优势。如果只是读书看成绩,晚的优势不明显。中国流行
早上学美国流行晚上学,其实和学校里什么东西被看重有关系。

that
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.7

【在 p*******h 的大作中提到】
: 转发一个关于这个话题的文章,结论是晚上学一开始很有优势,但是这个优势上了中学
: 后就逐渐消失。年纪小的宝宝和年纪大的宝宝在一起学的快。
: Erin Odom and her husband, of Mooresville, N.C., spent months last year
: debating what to do about kindergarten for their daughter. They worried that
: her fifth birthday fell too close to their school's cutoff date, which
: would make her one of the youngest children in the class. Their nursery
: schoolteacher assured them that their daughter would do "just fine" moving
: ahead, Ms. Odom says, but "we didn't just want her to survive school—we
: wanted her to thrive."
: What ultimately persuaded them to hold her back for a year was talking to

N****n
发帖数: 4179
7
最后一句是关键啊

【在 m*****8 的大作中提到】
: 如果是体育方面,晚的有明显优势。如果只是读书看成绩,晚的优势不明显。中国流行
: 早上学美国流行晚上学,其实和学校里什么东西被看重有关系。
:
: that
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.7

r*f
发帖数: 39119
8
老美主要从体育方面看的吧,据说3年级开始,队里的差距就加速拉大了
r*f
发帖数: 39119
9
感觉小中男刚上学时候的纪律问题比较常见啊。

that

【在 p*******h 的大作中提到】
: 转发一个关于这个话题的文章,结论是晚上学一开始很有优势,但是这个优势上了中学
: 后就逐渐消失。年纪小的宝宝和年纪大的宝宝在一起学的快。
: Erin Odom and her husband, of Mooresville, N.C., spent months last year
: debating what to do about kindergarten for their daughter. They worried that
: her fifth birthday fell too close to their school's cutoff date, which
: would make her one of the youngest children in the class. Their nursery
: schoolteacher assured them that their daughter would do "just fine" moving
: ahead, Ms. Odom says, but "we didn't just want her to survive school—we
: wanted her to thrive."
: What ultimately persuaded them to hold her back for a year was talking to

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