w**d
发帖数: 2334 | 1 不和逻辑不通，打滚撒泼，臭大街的人讨论。grades inflation人所共知。
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/04/harvard-grade-inflatio
Getting an A-letter grade isn't above average for undergraduate students at
Harvard University; it's the norm.
Now, a Harvard professor is speaking out against's the Ivy League school's
tendency to hand out As, a practice which suggests a flaw in the college's
grade system and reflects a wider trend among the country's top universities.
At a heated monthly meeting for the college's Faculty of Arts and Sciences,
government professor Harvey Mansfield asked Dean Of Undergraduate Education
Jay Harris about recent grade inflation rumors. Student newspaper The
Harvard Crimson first reported on the exchange.
“A little bird has told me that the most frequently given grade at Harvard
College right now is an A-,” Mansfield said during the meeting’s question
period, according to the Crimson. “If this is true or nearly true, it
represents a failure on the part of this faculty and its leadership to
maintain our academic standards.”
Confirming Mansfield's suspicions, Harris responded, citing data from fall
2012 and several previous semesters: “The median grade in Harvard College
is indeed an A-. The most frequently awarded grade in Harvard College is
actually a straight A.”
Speaking to The Boston Globe, Mansfield called the situation "indefensible."
The problem of grade inflation at Harvard is no secret, however.
Sietse Goffard, 20, an economics major at the university, told the Globe he
believes grades are inflated.
“I think it [grade inflation] definitely exists,” Goffard said. “I think
students and faculty, the data they have all point to the fact that it’s an
issue here more than elsewhere.”
In 2011, Larry Summers -- president of Harvard University from 2001 to 2006
-- told The Washington Post that “Ninety percent of Harvard graduates
graduated with honors when I started. ... The most unique honor you could
graduate with was none.”
There's even a gag website called "What Would My Harvard Grade Be?" that
mocks the university's consistently high grading average by displaying a
giant red A on its landing page. The A never changes.
But grade inflation isn't unique to Harvard.
As USA Today reported in November, four-year colleges' grades have drifted
steadily upward over the past 50 years, and some researchers link the trend
to declining curriculum rigor and education standards.
The average GPA at four-year colleges and universities in the U.S. rose from
2.52 (on a 4.0 scale) in the 1950s to 3.11 in 2006 and continues to climb,
according to a study by Stuart Rojstaczer, a former Duke University
professor and founder of GradeInflation.com who has been monitoring both
public and private universities' grade inflation over the last several
decades.
According to a 2009 report by Rojstaczer in the Christian Science Monitor,
two-thirds of all letter grades given at Brown University were As. And in
2004, Princeton University decided to adopt a "grade deflation" policy to
curb its own constantly rising GPAs by capping A-letter grades at 35 percent
of the student population.
One theory for runway grade inflation, as noted by The Washington Post,
suggests that professors are prone to assigning less work and giving better
grades so that, in turn, students will give them better evaluations, which
are a crucial part of the faculty assessment process.
For a university that has been consistently ranked No. 1 and 2 in multiple
rankings of top U.S. universities and has produced more Nobel Prize winners
and American presidents than any other university, Harvard's grade inflation
could raise major questions about merit. Rojstaczer worries that colleges'
most talented students won't be recognized and academic standards will slip
if grade inflation continues.
"In a fair grading system, you reward people for their outstanding
achievements," Rojstaczer told USA Today. "It's a fair system for students
who are working hard and are creative to excel. (Grade inflation) lowers the
intensity and intellectual level in many classes."
Harvey Mansfield and Jay Harris were not immediately available to comment on
this story. A spokesperson for Harvard University could not be reached at
press time.
CORRECTION:A previous version of this article mislabeled Goffard's gender.
The post has been updated to reflect the correct gender. | w**d
发帖数: 2334 | | w**d
发帖数: 2334 | 3 道理讲不过了就骂人，一贯的套路。一直讨论的规则是指多少分了给ABCD。这样的话
grade inflation就有两次机会：给高分和降低标准，比如以前95分以上是A，现在降到
90分，甚至85分就是A。
算了，说了也有人不明白的。而且奉劝一句，不要骂人。 | t******l
发帖数: 10908 | 4 不用说这么远的，SBAC 已经为了政治正确，已经彻底把初中数学课和科学课，统统给
变成了写作课！！
这次打听到 6 年级班上AMC 8 考前几名拿到 AMC 10 invitation 的，大多不在
school honor roll 里面，因为数学课和 science 课都有拿 B 和 C 的。（在
reading test 成绩不错的前提下）。当然这也不奇怪，写作水平不行不是？
不说了，大伙儿都看到版上那位提到的，按种族成绩分布筛选考题的吧。俺大胆猜测，
未来的初中数学课和 science 课，统统都会变成 rap music 课。这好日子一眼望不到
边啊。
我不多说了，再说要被政治正确追杀了。只是摸着良心说一句，还打算读理工的记得合
理加料就是了。在这种大形势大趋势下，再咋 AA，合理加料的将来确实好日子望不到
边了。竞争对手被政治正确给直接 wipe off 了不是？当然说这个对我本人没实际好处
就是了。
【在 w**d 的大作中提到】
: 这个还有数据：
: http://www.gradeinflation.com/
| N*********6
发帖数: 2302 | 5 我儿子因为band , 玩抢不吹小号，没进AB hornot roll...
Lol
要不要骂他？
【在 t******l 的大作中提到】
: 不用说这么远的，SBAC 已经为了政治正确，已经彻底把初中数学课和科学课，统统给
: 变成了写作课！！
: 这次打听到 6 年级班上AMC 8 考前几名拿到 AMC 10 invitation 的，大多不在
: school honor roll 里面，因为数学课和 science 课都有拿 B 和 C 的。（在
: reading test 成绩不错的前提下）。当然这也不奇怪，写作水平不行不是？
: 不说了，大伙儿都看到版上那位提到的，按种族成绩分布筛选考题的吧。俺大胆猜测，
: 未来的初中数学课和 science 课，统统都会变成 rap music 课。这好日子一眼望不到
: 边啊。
: 我不多说了，再说要被政治正确追杀了。只是摸着良心说一句，还打算读理工的记得合
: 理加料就是了。在这种大形势大趋势下，再咋 AA，合理加料的将来确实好日子望不到
| t******l
发帖数: 10908 | 6 你知不知道初中 school honor roll 最重要的指标是 数学 + ELA + science？这又不
是说高中。你这不是诡辩么？
你要打比方也应该是，比如你娃玩枪射击精准，但不幸被 army ranger 射击学校给开
除了，是因为 army ranger 射击学校不咋教开枪，天天教擦枪。
【在 N*********6 的大作中提到】
: 我儿子因为band , 玩抢不吹小号，没进AB hornot roll...
: Lol
: 要不要骂他？
| G***W
发帖数: 1967 | 7 真的不是存心诡辩什么。
我用PowerSchool app，我儿子说要六个都是AB, 才能上ab honor roll
Math, social study, science, Heath , band , language &part.
Q2就差band 这个了，49分。。
我智商没有那么高，要去make 什么point.... 我就一普通人，路见不平，爱管闲事，
而且是在网络上而已，网下尽量猥琐，自保。
【在 t******l 的大作中提到】
: 你知不知道初中 school honor roll 最重要的指标是 数学 + ELA + science？这又不
: 是说高中。你这不是诡辩么？
: 你要打比方也应该是，比如你娃玩枪射击精准，但不幸被 army ranger 射击学校给开
: 除了，是因为 army ranger 射击学校不咋教开枪，天天教擦枪。
| t******l
发帖数: 10908 | 8 middle school honor roll 又不是你说的 AB Honor Roll。
而且这主要不是说 honor roll，而是说数学课 GPA 是 B B- 啥的。
你这纯粹是回帖不看帖。
【在 G***W 的大作中提到】
: 真的不是存心诡辩什么。
: 我用PowerSchool app，我儿子说要六个都是AB, 才能上ab honor roll
: Math, social study, science, Heath , band , language &part.
: Q2就差band 这个了，49分。。
: 我智商没有那么高，要去make 什么point.... 我就一普通人，路见不平，爱管闲事，
: 而且是在网络上而已，网下尽量猥琐，自保。
| G***W
发帖数: 1967 | 9 赶紧说一下，我是根本就不懂两者的差别！！！
【在 t******l 的大作中提到】
: middle school honor roll 又不是你说的 AB Honor Roll。
: 而且这主要不是说 honor roll，而是说数学课 GPA 是 B B- 啥的。
: 你这纯粹是回帖不看帖。
| t******l
发帖数: 10908 | 10 版上那哥们曾经说的按种族筛选数学题这种，我打个比方啊：
这就好比 iPad 初始化时，如果 GPS 发现当前位置是美国，啪啪两声，数学协处理器
自毁一半。如果是津巴布韦或墨西哥，啪啪啪啪四声，所有数学协处理器统统自毁。
当然，广大俄罗斯人民、新加坡人民等等等等，有福了。至少买的 iPad 不是残版。 | w**d
发帖数: 2334 | 11 怎么我们这儿没有什么honor roll，是因为我儿子还没读初中？ 感觉我们这就是几乎
不布置数学作业，因为有的孩子在家里得不到帮助，没有g&t program，因为所有的孩
子该得到一样的教育。全是往最差的靠。好在我对儿子的最大要求就是去学校交些朋友
，social skills练练。不知道高中会不会大不一样。 | t******l
发帖数: 10908 | 12 我们小学也没有 school honor roll，初中才有。每次 grade report 给一批。
我现在不管学校政治正确还是不正确了。反正我的切实目标，就是理工科的 problem
solving 部分，我自己动手教到基础的 calculus-based physics。
我觉得公立学校强在教文科，以及理工科的文科部分（解释、写作之类的，不过也很重
要就是了）。
【在 w**d 的大作中提到】
: 怎么我们这儿没有什么honor roll，是因为我儿子还没读初中？ 感觉我们这就是几乎
: 不布置数学作业，因为有的孩子在家里得不到帮助，没有g&t program，因为所有的孩
: 子该得到一样的教育。全是往最差的靠。好在我对儿子的最大要求就是去学校交些朋友
: ，social skills练练。不知道高中会不会大不一样。
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