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e****t
发帖数: 17914
1
http://labornotes.org/2012/08/detroits-wayne-state-university-l
Detroit’s Wayne State University Looks to Destroy Tenure
Aaron Petkov
Wayne State University in Detroit has proposed a new contract that would
radically redefine the terms for eliminating faculty. The school would be
the first research university to effectively abolish tenure, said the
faculty union, which mounted a protest. Photo: Aaron Petkov.
Wayne State University in Detroit has proposed a new contract that would
radically redefine the terms for eliminating faculty.
The school would be the first research university to effectively abolish
tenure, said officials of the American Association of University Professors
(AAUP), opening the door for other campuses under pressure from cuts in
public spending to try similar moves.
Traditionally, tenured faculty could be removed only after undergoing an
extended peer review or in cases where the university is facing extreme
financial stress.
The contract language management proposed in late July, however, would
effectively remove peer review and centralize the power to terminate faculty
in administrators’ hands.
When the university’s chief negotiator, James Green, was asked if the new
terms would amount to eliminating tenure he replied, “It would have that
effect, yes.”
University President Allan Gilmour, a former top-level executive at Ford,
quickly denied the charge. “Faculty tenure is an important aspect of
academic freedom,” Gilmour told reporters, “but it cannot be a place to
hide for those whose performance or behavior is poor.”
Wayne State enrolls nearly 32,000 students, 89 percent of whom are from
metro Detroit, and has almost 3,000 faculty members. About a third are
tenured or tenure-track. Faculty are represented by a joint AAUP-Teachers (
AFT) Local 6075.
The proposed contract would allow the administration to remove faculty in
cases of “the substantial curtailment or discontinuance of a program which
removes any reasonable opportunity for using a faculty member's services,”
a “failure to meet professional responsibilities,” a “failure to perform
academic assignments competently,” and a “financially based reduction in
force.”
Michael McIntyre, a law professor and union member at Wayne, said the
language amounts to a “frontal attack on tenure.”
Whose Priorities Count?
“The administration already has the power to fire faculty and academic
staff in the face of an economic emergency,” McIntyre told Inside Higher Ed
. “What it apparently wants is the authority to fire people if it chooses
to spend money to advance some agenda that it considers more important than
retaining faculty and academic staff.”
According to Wayne State history professor Fran Shor in a letter to the
Detroit Free Press, “there is no provision for peer review of an
administration-initiated termination of tenure,” only “the possibility of
‘looking for mutual settlement’ after the fact.” The union could file a
grievance and hope for an arbitrator’s ruling to reinstate a fired member,
but is unwilling to take decisions about academic performance away from
fellow faculty, who, the union argues, are best suited to judge.
Management also wants a provision limiting faculty members’ political
freedom, by allowing professors to be terminated for “intentionally causing
injury to persons and/or damage to property, forcibly interrupting the
normal daily teaching, research or administrative operation of the
University or directly inciting others to engage in such actions.” This
kind of vague language would leave the door open to disciplining or
eliminating tenured faculty who participate or assist in organizing protests
on campus, such as the recent Occupy protests that swept campuses and
cities across the United States last fall, or the ongoing student strike in
Quebec.
According to Shor, the assault on tenure is another step in the “
corporatization of the university.” Recent decisions like the appointment
of Gilmour, the first Wayne president with no academic background, and the
elimination of the Interdisciplinary Studies program that primarily served
working-class people of color, have little to do with the economic realities
facing the university, Shor said, and more to do with “politically
motivated decisions about who the university should be serving.”
Department closures, layoffs of non-academic staff, extreme increases in
tuition, and increasing reliance on adjunct faculty all point toward a
radical shift to what some union members have been calling a corporate model
of higher education. The cost of attending Wayne State full-time has risen
from 3,970ayearin2000to10,188 a year now.
If faculty accept the abolition of tenure, they would harm not only their
own job security and academic freedom but also the quality of students’
education, argued Shashi Thandra, a graduate student in Wayne’s English
department.
“Abolishing tenure will devalue their degrees because they would no longer
graduate from a research university,” Thandra said. “Tenure protects
freedom of research and without tenure, faculty can only research what
university administrators will allow.”
The school will no longer be able to attract top-flight faculty, who would
refuse to work in a setting where they cannot research with security,
Thandra said.
Other universities have been experimenting with terminating tenured faculty,
including the eight-campus University of Louisiana system last year.
Florida State University tried to lay off 21 tenured faculty two years ago,
but the move was blocked by an arbitrator.
At Wayne State, the administration and the union have agreed to extend the
contract, which was set to end July 31, and established a six-person
committee to review tenure rights. Faculty have until September 30 to plan
their next move.
k****t
发帖数: 12697
2
这GP的TENURE 制度老早该ENTIRELY GONE.
x5
发帖数: 27871
3
你老是站着说话不腰疼啊

【在 k****t 的大作中提到】
: 这GP的TENURE 制度老早该ENTIRELY GONE.
t****g
发帖数: 35582
4
我静候本版的发考题群殴糖爸:)

【在 k****t 的大作中提到】
: 这GP的TENURE 制度老早该ENTIRELY GONE.
k****t
发帖数: 12697
5
以前有用保护叫兽讲人是猴子变的, 现在还有个毛用

【在 x5 的大作中提到】
: 你老是站着说话不腰疼啊
t*****r
发帖数: 2542
6
同围观
五脚兽已经率先出手了
其他教授呢?尤其是甜妞了的

【在 t****g 的大作中提到】
: 我静候本版的发考题群殴糖爸:)
b*********n
发帖数: 5846
7
hehe,从老板被撸成打工仔,情何以堪。

【在 t****g 的大作中提到】
: 我静候本版的发考题群殴糖爸:)
e****t
发帖数: 17914
8

如果木有了tenure制度,还有多少人会去读PhD?
至少在我们领域,读完PhD不(努力)去academia,是一种对学术的背叛,呵呵。

【在 k****t 的大作中提到】
: 以前有用保护叫兽讲人是猴子变的, 现在还有个毛用
p********e
发帖数: 16048
9
有啊
现在教授讲co2排放无大害处也会被群殴的
需要保护

【在 k****t 的大作中提到】
: 以前有用保护叫兽讲人是猴子变的, 现在还有个毛用
g********r
发帖数: 8017
10
BU的医学院早就没有田牛。不过角兽挣的少,靠稳定吸引人。以后跟公司竞争了也好。
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e****t
发帖数: 17914
11

没有tenure了怎么还能稳定啊。。。

【在 g********r 的大作中提到】
: BU的医学院早就没有田牛。不过角兽挣的少,靠稳定吸引人。以后跟公司竞争了也好。
t****g
发帖数: 35582
12
医学院的professor估计不把天牛当回事的。

【在 g********r 的大作中提到】
: BU的医学院早就没有田牛。不过角兽挣的少,靠稳定吸引人。以后跟公司竞争了也好。
x5
发帖数: 27871
13
医学院on soft money的很多,两码事啊

【在 g********r 的大作中提到】
: BU的医学院早就没有田牛。不过角兽挣的少,靠稳定吸引人。以后跟公司竞争了也好。
X*U
发帖数: 5518
14
两个利益攸关方的争论,呵呵

【在 x5 的大作中提到】
: 你老是站着说话不腰疼啊
g********r
发帖数: 8017
15
但别的地方还是有啊。赶人的程序很繁琐。H可以0%工资保留职位据说。

【在 x5 的大作中提到】
: 医学院on soft money的很多,两码事啊
k****t
发帖数: 12697
16
舔妞了不努力干活的食利阶级不是社会的癌肿么
g********r
发帖数: 8017
17
research school里正常的都要努力一辈子。用极少几个做依据,取消这个系统,那以
后谁也不敢跟chair,dean顶一句嘴了。不服管的大佬都可以随便踢走。有的系有学派
争斗的,一派上台就可以清除另一派。

【在 k****t 的大作中提到】
: 舔妞了不努力干活的食利阶级不是社会的癌肿么
b*********n
发帖数: 5846
18
啥叫不努力干活?以前学校有professor不带学生,不申请funding,不做实验,只教课
的。

【在 k****t 的大作中提到】
: 舔妞了不努力干活的食利阶级不是社会的癌肿么
e****t
发帖数: 17914
19

应该想的是怎么设计更好的incentive contract 。。。

【在 k****t 的大作中提到】
: 舔妞了不努力干活的食利阶级不是社会的癌肿么
g********r
发帖数: 8017
20
多数人不喜欢教课。如果他教的学分多,把困难的大课都教了,给别人省出时间,也行。
很多地方都是buy out制度,有经费才能少教课。
这里还有个误区,tenure不是铁饭碗。只是说要踢走一个人要有一年到两年的一个程序
。如果他不perform,还是可以赶走的。

【在 b*********n 的大作中提到】
: 啥叫不努力干活?以前学校有professor不带学生,不申请funding,不做实验,只教课
: 的。

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X*U
发帖数: 5518
21
和汽车工会,教师工会一样啊

行。

【在 g********r 的大作中提到】
: 多数人不喜欢教课。如果他教的学分多,把困难的大课都教了,给别人省出时间,也行。
: 很多地方都是buy out制度,有经费才能少教课。
: 这里还有个误区,tenure不是铁饭碗。只是说要踢走一个人要有一年到两年的一个程序
: 。如果他不perform,还是可以赶走的。

b********e
发帖数: 1796
22
这种不保护教授的学校直接关门算了
g********r
发帖数: 8017
23
想像一下,没有tenure,就会有角兽工会。
这东西一罢工,根本来不及找替代的人。最后结果是一样的。

【在 X*U 的大作中提到】
: 和汽车工会,教师工会一样啊
:
: 行。

X*U
发帖数: 5518
24
那可不一样啊,你们州貌似是right to work state吧,掀不起大风浪啊

【在 g********r 的大作中提到】
: 想像一下,没有tenure,就会有角兽工会。
: 这东西一罢工,根本来不及找替代的人。最后结果是一样的。

r*********r
发帖数: 3195
25
过时的体系。
在计算机系,没在工业界混过,直接从博士变成教授,
然后拿到泰妞就开始混日子的,真的很脱离实际。
一个很严重的后果就是教出来的学生也脱离实际,
导致毕业后很难找工作。
a*******e
发帖数: 3021
26
大学里讲的那些课哪些很结合实际? 干脆大学也取消算了
学术界本来就不能跟工业界混一起,跟找工作有毛关系
学术需要自由,才能带动科技发展,工业追求利润,带动社会发展只是副作用而以

【在 r*********r 的大作中提到】
: 过时的体系。
: 在计算机系,没在工业界混过,直接从博士变成教授,
: 然后拿到泰妞就开始混日子的,真的很脱离实际。
: 一个很严重的后果就是教出来的学生也脱离实际,
: 导致毕业后很难找工作。

e****t
发帖数: 17914
27

请给胡主席写信把中国的学校全都关了。

【在 r*********r 的大作中提到】
: 过时的体系。
: 在计算机系,没在工业界混过,直接从博士变成教授,
: 然后拿到泰妞就开始混日子的,真的很脱离实际。
: 一个很严重的后果就是教出来的学生也脱离实际,
: 导致毕业后很难找工作。

o******s
发帖数: 1364
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Joining...

【在 t****g 的大作中提到】
: 我静候本版的发考题群殴糖爸:)
l******a
发帖数: 10467
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包子?

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