b**********y
发帖数: 326 | |
o******2
发帖数: 159 | 2 即将要去工作的公司在bottom 20。。。。。。
看来以后每天早上得看新闻check它家是不是关门了？
【在 b**********y 的大作中提到】
: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2011s-hedge-fund-winners-and-lose
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D********n
发帖数: 978 | 3 BSO啊。能到bottom 20也不是一般人。
【在 o******2 的大作中提到】
: 即将要去工作的公司在bottom 20。。。。。。
: 看来以后每天早上得看新闻check它家是不是关门了？
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P****d
发帖数: 369 | |
a***x
发帖数: 26368 | 5 肥肠不全
【在 P****d 的大作中提到】
: 貌似不全啊。。。。
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s******r
发帖数: 324 | 6 这个是HSBC private bank track的一些 hedge fund, if you get on their list,
you can get access to client of HSBC private bank, but a lot of good funds
are on the list. Thanks for posting it. |
J*****n
发帖数: 4859 | 7
I used to work there. Frankly speaking, it is not a good choice if you have
other place to go.
【在 o******2 的大作中提到】
: 即将要去工作的公司在bottom 20。。。。。。
: 看来以后每天早上得看新闻check它家是不是关门了？
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o******2
发帖数: 159 | 8 牛人前辈，非常感谢啊。
不过我没有再面别家了，就他家一个offer。...
have
【在 J*****n 的大作中提到】
:
: I used to work there. Frankly speaking, it is not a good choice if you have
: other place to go.
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c****y
发帖数: 3592 | 9 有fund of funds的么？ 这些也太少了 |
g***e
发帖数: 88 | |
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L******g
发帖数: 1371 | 11 DE Shaw up about 17.5% in 2011. |
s******r
发帖数: 324 | 12 D.E. Shaw has multiple fund? You mean their core stat arb fund is up 17.5%?
They have CTA, vol, credit,distressed etc. |
L******g
发帖数: 1371 | 13 I mean de shaw's flagship fund OCULUS |
s******r
发帖数: 324 | 14 so after two years with single digit return, they finally have a good year.
Do you know Oculus's performance in 2008 and its size now? it's used to be
about 5-7 billion. |
L******g
发帖数: 1371 | 15 total aum is about $22B, but not that sure. the problem is how many
percentage in flagship?
Just like Rentech, flagship fund is fabulous, but other strategies performs
like a shit.
.
【在 s******r 的大作中提到】
: so after two years with single digit return, they finally have a good year.
: Do you know Oculus's performance in 2008 and its size now? it's used to be
: about 5-7 billion.
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s******r
发帖数: 324 | 16 even the flagship fund lags two sigma. But still very respectable. |
g***e
发帖数: 88 | 17 why only flagship fund perform well? did they suck money from other funds?
performs
【在 L******g 的大作中提到】
: total aum is about $22B, but not that sure. the problem is how many
: percentage in flagship?
: Just like Rentech, flagship fund is fabulous, but other strategies performs
: like a shit.
:
: .
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s******r
发帖数: 324 | 18 D.E.Shaw built their reputation on stat arb strategy, but those strategy has
limit, for 6bil capital, you are already talking about 20bil a side book.
But people always want to make more money, so D.E.Shaw expand to private
equity, CTA, option (actually they are pretty decent in that, that's
probably in their flagship fund as well), credit, distressed, in those areas
it's not purely model driven, and even best of those fund are not good as
good stat arb fund, and they are not among best in those areas anyway. And
D.E.Shaw's core business is not as good as two sigma now anyway. |
g***e
发帖数: 88 | 19 how could d e shaw not as good as two sigma?
has
areas
And
【在 s******r 的大作中提到】
: D.E.Shaw built their reputation on stat arb strategy, but those strategy has
: limit, for 6bil capital, you are already talking about 20bil a side book.
: But people always want to make more money, so D.E.Shaw expand to private
: equity, CTA, option (actually they are pretty decent in that, that's
: probably in their flagship fund as well), credit, distressed, in those areas
: it's not purely model driven, and even best of those fund are not good as
: good stat arb fund, and they are not among best in those areas anyway. And
: D.E.Shaw's core business is not as good as two sigma now anyway.
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s******r
发帖数: 324 | 20 why it should be better? At least Two sigma is more committed to quant
strategies. |
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g***e
发帖数: 88 | 21 why "more committed to quant strategies" == better?
【在 s******r 的大作中提到】
: why it should be better? At least Two sigma is more committed to quant
: strategies.
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s******r
发帖数: 324 | 22 it's about who can come up with better idea and have better people. I think
two sigma has better systems and better people. |
g***e
发帖数: 88 | 23 did two sigma perform better than d e shawn last year?
I would only consider a hf better if it perform better
think
【在 s******r 的大作中提到】
: it's about who can come up with better idea and have better people. I think
: two sigma has better systems and better people.
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s******r
发帖数: 324 | 24 it's better every single year for the last 5-6 years probably. |
g***e
发帖数: 88 | 25 ok, I thought deshawn was better every year, looks i wa wrong.
what is your source?
【在 s******r 的大作中提到】
: it's better every single year for the last 5-6 years probably.
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s******r
发帖数: 324 | 26 easy to get return on Oculus. You need to have access at good fund of fund
to get Two Sigma return, they are almost 20%is every year for the past 5-6
years while D.E.Shaw has single digit return in 2009 and 2010, not sure
about 2007 and 2008. |
