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QueerNews版 - 谁在编造谎言? 分析wql的所谓证据(part 2)
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l*******y
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这个帖子继续对WQL的所谓证据进行驳斥。前一个帖子谈到WQL没有读原始文献,不懂统
计学,以致闹了笑话,把不支持他观点的证据当了宝。
part 1的帖子在这里:
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/QueerNews/12557463.html
这里谈两个更恶劣的情况:
(1)他在引文的时候,故意的断句(不是断章!),歪曲作者原意
(2)他抗议一项研究被忽略了。却绝口不提这个研究的作者是因为ethics violation被
APA驱逐的Paul Cameron.
WQL的原帖在此:
http://www.mitbbs.com/article/SanDiego/31626371_3.html
先摘一段WQL原文:
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关于同性恋收养孩子的性取向,这篇综述的作者总结的是:
All of the studies conducted thus far,with one exception
(Cameron & Cameron, 1996), inducate that gay and lesbian
parents are no more likely to produe gay and lesbian
children than their heterosexual counterparts.
.........
下面是另外一项。
注意前一段评价的地方是这个gay scientist做的。括号内的是作者原文,
我还没有找原文确认。
Colombok and Tasker (1996) conducted one of the few
longitudinal studies to investigate the impact on children
raised by lesbian mothers. The data were collected in 1997
from 25 choldren of lesbian mothers and a control group of
21 children of heterosexual single mothers with follow up
date collected in 1992. The average age of the children at
the two times of data collection were 9.5 and 23.5 years of
age, respectively. Th research used standardized interviews
to obtain data on sexual orientation, which resulted in the
finding that a substantial majority of children who grew up
in lesbian families self-identified as being heterosexual.
However, some interating additional findings were evident:
"...thos who had grown up in a lesbian family were more
likely to consider the possibility of having lesbian or gay
relatinshion..."
注意上面讲的两个研究没有在它所列的“one exception”里面,这两个
是用来证明它的“no more likely”的观点的。该“科学家”没有除了列
个名字之外,根本没有提那个“exception”研究做了什么,什么结果。
Gay “scientist”篡改引用别人的研究成果,然后就堂而皇之地得到了
“no more likely”的结论。这些结论出现在新闻媒体上,居然就成了
“These children do just fine”。很多人大概没有功夫查原始文献,
就相信接受了。其实事实和同性恋所宣传的根本不一样。
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首先请注意WQL的引文“..those who had grown up....gay relationship". 原文是什
么?
"Although no significant difference was found between the proportions of
young adults from lesbian and hetero-sexual families who reported feelings
of attraction toward someone of the same gender, those who had grown up in a
lesbian family were more likely to consider the possibility of having
lesbian or gay relationship...However, the commonly held assumption that
children brought up by lesbian mothers will themselves grow up to be lesbian
or gay is not supported by the findings of the study:the majority
identified as heterosexual in adulthood.(p.8)"
http://faculty.spokanefalls.edu/InetShare/AutoWebs/kimt/AW%20ar
注意这个引文是完整的出现在综述里面的,和之前的评论是连在一起的。WQL很有技巧
的把一个开头的Although和一个后面的however去掉了。大家看明白了吗? 一般大家都
容易断章取艺,这里升级了,断句取义。这样的人也有脸面指责别人"篡改引用别人的
研究成果"。
下面来看第二个问题,那个one exception,Cameron & Cameron, 1996。
这个研究的作者是谁? Paul Cameron。 详细的生平可以看这里
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Cameron
简单的说,他的研究完全的被主流学界所排斥。比如,In 1986 the American
Sociological Association passed a resolution condemning Cameron for "
consistent misrepresentation of sociological research".[21]
然后呢,他还有一些搞笑的quote:
“Martial sex tends toward the boring end,” he points out. “Generally, it
doesn’t deliver the kind of sheer sexual pleasure that homosexual sex does
”. (Rolling stone, March 18, 1999).
我就不多说什么了。
s******4
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"断句取义"---实在是一语点破!呵呵
You can earn a fortune by being a lawyer!
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