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QueerNews版 - NOM Backing Civil Unions in NH
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g********d
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WASHINGTON -- The National Organization for Marriage (NOM) is the leading
group fighting the legalization of same-sex marriage around the country. It
has raised and spent millions, opposing not only marriage equality but also
civil unions.
Yet NOM is now backing legislation in New Hampshire that would repeal same-
sex marriage but legalize civil unions, signaling a shift in its tactics as
more states move toward recognizing marriage equality.
The New Hampshire House is expected to vote Wednesday on a bill that would
repeal marriage equality and replace it with a civil unions law that was in
effect in the state in 2008 and 2009. Same-sex marriage was legalized in the
state on Jan. 1, 2010.
State Rep. David Bates (R-Windham), the author of the bill, is also pushing
for a ballot referendum in November asking voters, "Shall New Hampshire law
allow civil unions for same-sex couples and define marriage as the union of
one man and one woman?"
The referendum, however, would be non-binding so if voters opted to keep
same-sex marriage, the state wouldn't necessarily have to listen. Repeal
would still take effect on March 31, 2013, if Bates' bill passes.
NOM is backing this bill, even though it would leave civil unions in place
in the state and would not nullify the almost 1,900 same-sex marriages
already in place.
"We urge the legislature to adopt this compromise bill and let the voters
have the final say," said NOM President Brian Brown in a statement last week.
In the past, NOM has come out strongly against civil unions. Last year, it
called the potential of civil-union legalization in Illinois a "direct
threat" to marriage.
After Rhode Island legalized civil unions for same-sex couples last year,
Christopher Plante, executive director of the Rhode Island chapter of NOM,
said it was a "disappointing and dangerous day."
NOM did not return a request for comment. But its backing of Bates' bill --
and the bill itself -- seems to be an incremental approach in the fight to
keep marriage defined as being between one man and one woman, which is a
tactic abortion opponents have used for years. Essentially, the group seems
to be wagering that if it can't get unions between same-sex couples
completely repealed at this point, one step backward -- away from full
marriage rights -- is at least a move in the right direction.
"This is complete and total policy reversal coming from one of the nation's
most virulently anti-gay organizations," said Human Rights Campaign
President Joe Solmonese in a statement on Monday. "It smells like a Mitt
Romney-style flip flop for short term gain. NOM's phoniness and opportunism
never cease to amaze."
Pro-LGBT groups oppose Bates' legislation, with Tyler Deaton of Standing Up
For New Hampshire Families saying that the "very premise of this bill is to
take away rights."
Gov. John Lynch (D) is expected to veto the bill if it passes.
g********d
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支持CU?好啊,让AL,MS,GA这样的州也CU好不好?糊弄谁呢?SB! 这场BARGAIN,你们没有筹码。
D**S
发帖数: 24887
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这是什么把戏?
g********d
发帖数: 4174
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"its backing of Bates' bill --
and the bill itself -- seems to be an incremental approach in the fight to
keep marriage defined as being between one man and one woman"

【在 D**S 的大作中提到】
: 这是什么把戏?
D**S
发帖数: 24887
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当我们是傻子么?

【在 g********d 的大作中提到】
: "its backing of Bates' bill --
: and the bill itself -- seems to be an incremental approach in the fight to
: keep marriage defined as being between one man and one woman"

m******8
发帖数: 2153
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有必要了解一下C。U。 的历史来历,对直人或同志来说 C。U。和MARRIAGE有何不同的内涵。
m******8
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Civil Marriage vs. Civil Unions
What is marriage?
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Marriage is a unique legal status conferred by and recognized by governments
all over the world. It brings with it a host of reciprocal obligations,
rights and protections. It is also a cultural institution. No other word has
that power and no other status can provide that protection.
Married couples have 1,138 federal rights, protections and responsibilities
such as:
Social Security benefits upon death, disability or retirement of spouse,
as well as benefits for minor children.
Family and Medical Leave protections to care for a new child or a sick
or injured family member
Workers' Compensation protections for the family of a worker injured on
the job
Access to COBRA insurance benefits so the family doesn't lose health
insurance when one spouse is laid off
ERISA (Employee Retirement Income Security Act) protections such as the
ability to leave a pension, other than Social Security, to your spouse
Exemptions from penalties on IRA and pension rollovers
Exemptions from estate taxes when a spouse dies
Exemptions from federal income taxes on spouse's health insurance
The right to visit a sick or injured loved one, have a say in life and
death matters during hospitalization.
What is a civil union?
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A civil union is a legal status granted by a state. The State of Vermont
created civil unions in 2000. It provides legal protection to couples at the
state law level, but omits federal protections, as well as the dignity,
clarity, security and power of the word "marriage".
Civil unions are different from civil marriage and that difference has wide-
ranging implications that make the two institutions unequal, such as:
Portability:
Marriages are respected state to state for all purposes but questions remain
as to how civil unions will be treated in other states. The two appellate
courts that have addressed the issue in Connecticut and Georgia have
disregarded them based on the fact that their own states do not grant civil
unions.
Federal Benefits:
According to a 1997 General Accounting Office report, civil marriage brings
with it at least 1,049 legal protections and responsibilities from the
federal government alone. Civil unions bring none of these critical legal
protections.
Taxes and Public Benefits for the Family:
Because the federal government does not respect civil unions, a couple with
a civil union will be in a kind of limbo with regard to governmental
functions performed by both state and federal governments, such as taxation,
pension protections, provision of insurance for families, and means-tested
programs like Medicaid. Even when states try to provide legal protections,
they may be foreclosed from doing so in joint federal/state programs.
Filling Out Forms:
Every day we fill out forms that ask us whether we are married, single,
divorced or widowed. People joined in a civil union do not fit in any of
those categories. People with civil unions should be able to identify
themselves as a single family unit yet misrepresenting oneself on official
documents can be considered fraud and can carry potential serious criminal
penalties.
Separate and Unequal—Second Class Status:
Even if there were no substantive differences in the way the law treated
marriages and civil unions, the fact that a civil union remains a separate
status only for gay people represents real and powerful inequality. The
United States Constitution requires legal equality for all. Including
lesbian and gay couples within existing marriage laws in is the fairest and
simplest thing to do.
Ending a Civil Union:
If you are married, you can get divorced in any state in which you are a
resident. But if states continue to disregard civil unions, there is no way
to end the relationship other than establishing residency in Vermont and
filing for dissolution there. This has already created problems for couples
who now have no way to terminate their legal agreement. http://www.now.org/issues/marriage/marriage_unions.html
m******8
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CU = 低等“婚姻”+ 低等权利
两者这么大的差别,我想没人会要CU。大家身边有直人是CU的吗?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_union
m******1
发帖数: 19713
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没有多少直人想要CU吧?求CU咋求呢?Honey, I love you. Do you want to civil
union me?? It sounds to me like..Honey, you're not good enough to be my wife
. I only want to have a goddamn second class relationship with you!

【在 m******8 的大作中提到】
: CU = 低等“婚姻”+ 低等权利
: 两者这么大的差别,我想没人会要CU。大家身边有直人是CU的吗?
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_union

m******1
发帖数: 19713
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NOM太虚伪了,玩这种只有NC才玩的把戏,还以为我们和他们一样NC

你们没有筹码。

【在 g********d 的大作中提到】
: 支持CU?好啊,让AL,MS,GA这样的州也CU好不好?糊弄谁呢?SB! 这场BARGAIN,你们没有筹码。
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