m**x 发帖数: 75 | 1 Read a little bit of Lore of Running. Paid particular attention to the health
section. It seems to me marathon and its training does no good to health.
Would half-marathon or even 10K be a better compromise? | d****i 发帖数: 4354 | 2 Depending on what you want, if only for health, run 20 miles a week, race 5k
once a while would be great.
People run marathon not for health purpose.
【在 m**x 的大作中提到】 : Read a little bit of Lore of Running. Paid particular attention to the health : section. It seems to me marathon and its training does no good to health. : Would half-marathon or even 10K be a better compromise?
| m**x 发帖数: 75 | 3 Thanks!
5k
【在 d****i 的大作中提到】 : Depending on what you want, if only for health, run 20 miles a week, race 5k : once a while would be great. : People run marathon not for health purpose.
| m******g 发帖数: 516 | 4 Definitely Ego. For me, running is fun, training is not. Sometimes I am
wondering why I am still doing it, it is a goal to accomplish, a pr to set,
only very little portion might has something to do with health. | T****a 发帖数: 4651 | 5 i wonder how do you separate training from running, i like to think all runs
are fun, except under certain weather conditions.
for me a big part of the fun is the challenge itself, and i focus on
distance. at beginning, a 5K looked intimating, then it became easy; so I
move on to 10K, and soon 10k was no big deal. then i started to think about
10 mi, then HM. it's like climbing mountains, you reach one peak, enjoy the
view, move on to the next mountain.
for other runners, may be the speed is their primary focus. but as long as
we take care of our bodies in the process, which we will have to, i can't
see why it's not healthy either physically, or mentally (ok, i admitted we
are a little bit crazy in others eyes :-))
,
【在 m******g 的大作中提到】 : Definitely Ego. For me, running is fun, training is not. Sometimes I am : wondering why I am still doing it, it is a goal to accomplish, a pr to set, : only very little portion might has something to do with health.
| m**k 发帖数: 18660 | 6 one day..you might just feel you could not run longer..
and getting slower and slower....inevitably
runs
about
the
【在 T****a 的大作中提到】 : i wonder how do you separate training from running, i like to think all runs : are fun, except under certain weather conditions. : for me a big part of the fun is the challenge itself, and i focus on : distance. at beginning, a 5K looked intimating, then it became easy; so I : move on to 10K, and soon 10k was no big deal. then i started to think about : 10 mi, then HM. it's like climbing mountains, you reach one peak, enjoy the : view, move on to the next mountain. : for other runners, may be the speed is their primary focus. but as long as : we take care of our bodies in the process, which we will have to, i can't : see why it's not healthy either physically, or mentally (ok, i admitted we
| w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 7 There are different definitions of what being healthy is. Is healthy about
living longer, being disease free, better
performance in sex, or not dying after running 26 miles?
runs
about
the
【在 T****a 的大作中提到】 : i wonder how do you separate training from running, i like to think all runs : are fun, except under certain weather conditions. : for me a big part of the fun is the challenge itself, and i focus on : distance. at beginning, a 5K looked intimating, then it became easy; so I : move on to 10K, and soon 10k was no big deal. then i started to think about : 10 mi, then HM. it's like climbing mountains, you reach one peak, enjoy the : view, move on to the next mountain. : for other runners, may be the speed is their primary focus. but as long as : we take care of our bodies in the process, which we will have to, i can't : see why it's not healthy either physically, or mentally (ok, i admitted we
| b*******r 发帖数: 878 | 8 工作是为了ego or survival? same question. | T****a 发帖数: 4651 | 9 here is my order of being healthy:
- being disease free (relative speaking b/c no one is truly disease free)
- not dying after running 26 miles
- living longer (and run till i can't any more)
- better performance in sex (who cares about sex :-)
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】 : There are different definitions of what being healthy is. Is healthy about : living longer, being disease free, better : performance in sex, or not dying after running 26 miles? : : runs : about : the
| c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 10 this I can answer with certainty: survival.
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】 : 工作是为了ego or survival? same question.
| | | T****a 发帖数: 4651 | 11 cheer up mark, you are too young to think like that, it's a privilege
reserved for older man like me. best luck to your race on sunday.
【在 m**k 的大作中提到】 : one day..you might just feel you could not run longer.. : and getting slower and slower....inevitably : : runs : about : the
| w*******e 发帖数: 2651 | 12 Marathon running and training is a lifestyle choice.
You would not go far if just running for ego or health.
health
【在 m**x 的大作中提到】 : Read a little bit of Lore of Running. Paid particular attention to the health : section. It seems to me marathon and its training does no good to health. : Would half-marathon or even 10K be a better compromise?
| l**n 发帖数: 2405 | 13 eagle ego eagle ego eagle ego eagle ego eagle ego eagle ego
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eagle ego eagle ego eagle ego eagle ego eagle ego eagle ego | m**k 发帖数: 18660 | 14 I have to say.. not all runners can run a whole life.
well. I am not sure if I still will be running when I am 70..
所以。还是享受当下吧
【在 w*******e 的大作中提到】 : Marathon running and training is a lifestyle choice. : You would not go far if just running for ego or health. : : health
| m******g 发帖数: 516 | 15 running: without heart rate monitor
training: with heart rate monitor
【在 T****a 的大作中提到】 : i wonder how do you separate training from running, i like to think all runs : are fun, except under certain weather conditions. : for me a big part of the fun is the challenge itself, and i focus on : distance. at beginning, a 5K looked intimating, then it became easy; so I : move on to 10K, and soon 10k was no big deal. then i started to think about : 10 mi, then HM. it's like climbing mountains, you reach one peak, enjoy the : view, move on to the next mountain. : for other runners, may be the speed is their primary focus. but as long as : we take care of our bodies in the process, which we will have to, i can't : see why it's not healthy either physically, or mentally (ok, i admitted we
| T****a 发帖数: 4651 | 16 it's all mental then. if HRM is a burden, you can run w/o it. whxhm1 has a
way of counting heart rate without HRM, and there are people who don't
follow any particular program. if you can keep improving without going to
any race, that would be great too.
【在 m******g 的大作中提到】 : running: without heart rate monitor : training: with heart rate monitor
| w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 17 There are elite athletes who don't even use a watch in training.
【在 T****a 的大作中提到】 : it's all mental then. if HRM is a burden, you can run w/o it. whxhm1 has a : way of counting heart rate without HRM, and there are people who don't : follow any particular program. if you can keep improving without going to : any race, that would be great too.
| b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 18 yes, they only need the 10k splits or maybe 5k splits for reference, which
will be provided by clocks or supporters. if they race for a place, not for
time, then it will be even easier.
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】 : There are elite athletes who don't even use a watch in training.
| T****a 发帖数: 4651 | 19 may be what you are asking is this: if i can no longer making any
improvement - distance or speed, and even start to decline, would i still
want to run?
the answer is definitely! with each passing year, though i'm slowing down,
so is my age group. i actually have better and better chance to beat
others simply b/c the number is dropping, and move up till i'm no.1 :-)
TGIF
【在 m**k 的大作中提到】 : one day..you might just feel you could not run longer.. : and getting slower and slower....inevitably : : runs : about : the
| m**k 发帖数: 18660 | 20 Yes. that's what I want to pursue too! :D
however..just like 海誓山盟, you won't know if you might change your mind :)
【在 T****a 的大作中提到】 : may be what you are asking is this: if i can no longer making any : improvement - distance or speed, and even start to decline, would i still : want to run? : the answer is definitely! with each passing year, though i'm slowing down, : so is my age group. i actually have better and better chance to beat : others simply b/c the number is dropping, and move up till i'm no.1 :-) : TGIF
| | | c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 21 right, you can only live the present! enjoy running while you can
【在 m**k 的大作中提到】 : Yes. that's what I want to pursue too! :D : however..just like 海誓山盟, you won't know if you might change your mind :)
| m**h 发帖数: 618 | 22 take it easy mark.
【在 m**k 的大作中提到】 : Yes. that's what I want to pursue too! :D : however..just like 海誓山盟, you won't know if you might change your mind :)
| m**x 发帖数: 75 | 23 Some comments from you guys remind me of Buddhism.
As pointed out by George Sheehan (cited by the author of Lore of Running in
Chapter 15, p839), '...runners be classified into one of three groups-
joggers, racers, and runners...'; "Ultimately, the jogger/racer may evolve
into a runner who is unconcerned about the health aspects of running and
whose psyche no longer needs the challenge of the race. The runner runs to
meditate, to create, and to become whole. Sheehan writes: 'Running is
finally seeing everything in perspective... Running is the fusion of body,
mind and soul in that beautiful relaxation that joggers and racers find so
difficult to achieve'..."
Thanks again for sharing your thoughts.
Happy jogging, racing, running...
health
【在 m**x 的大作中提到】 : Read a little bit of Lore of Running. Paid particular attention to the health : section. It seems to me marathon and its training does no good to health. : Would half-marathon or even 10K be a better compromise?
| m**k 发帖数: 18660 | 24 Dr Sheehan写的才都是大毒草。hoho.
Running and Being.
Personal Best. I love his books
in
【在 m**x 的大作中提到】 : Some comments from you guys remind me of Buddhism. : As pointed out by George Sheehan (cited by the author of Lore of Running in : Chapter 15, p839), '...runners be classified into one of three groups- : joggers, racers, and runners...'; "Ultimately, the jogger/racer may evolve : into a runner who is unconcerned about the health aspects of running and : whose psyche no longer needs the challenge of the race. The runner runs to : meditate, to create, and to become whole. Sheehan writes: 'Running is : finally seeing everything in perspective... Running is the fusion of body, : mind and soul in that beautiful relaxation that joggers and racers find so : difficult to achieve'..."
| l*********n 发帖数: 831 | 25 每个人的目标都不一样吧跑步
我是想证明自己是健康的 | T****a 发帖数: 4651 | 26 Beautiful!! Thanks for sharing this.
I'm still a jogger trying to become a racer...
"...runners be classified into one of three groups-joggers, racers, and
runners...'; "Ultimately, the jogger/racer may evolve into a runner who is
unconcerned about the health aspects of running and whose psyche no longer
needs the challenge of the race. The runner runs to meditate, to create,
and to become whole. Running is finally seeing everything in
perspective... Running is the fusion of body, mind and soul in that
beautiful relaxation that joggers and racers find so difficult to
achieve'..."
【在 m**x 的大作中提到】 : Some comments from you guys remind me of Buddhism. : As pointed out by George Sheehan (cited by the author of Lore of Running in : Chapter 15, p839), '...runners be classified into one of three groups- : joggers, racers, and runners...'; "Ultimately, the jogger/racer may evolve : into a runner who is unconcerned about the health aspects of running and : whose psyche no longer needs the challenge of the race. The runner runs to : meditate, to create, and to become whole. Sheehan writes: 'Running is : finally seeing everything in perspective... Running is the fusion of body, : mind and soul in that beautiful relaxation that joggers and racers find so : difficult to achieve'..."
| l*******o 发帖数: 669 | 27 Neither.
It's definitely not for health. It does a lot more harm than good to your
body.
It's probably not for ego. Running marathon is such a common thing these
days, it's nothing special.
It's just for personal experience. Those who have done it know how it feels
like. | o*******r 发帖数: 4921 | 28 Who cares?
health
【在 m**x 的大作中提到】 : Read a little bit of Lore of Running. Paid particular attention to the health : section. It seems to me marathon and its training does no good to health. : Would half-marathon or even 10K be a better compromise?
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