d**u
发帖数: 240 | 1 Keyword: 请求Hernandez考虑搁置
===================================================
Sens. Lieu, Yee and Liu ask Hernandez to hold SCA 5
SACRAMENTO – Sens. Ted Lieu, D-Redondo Beach; Leland Yee, D-San Francisco/
San Mateo; and Carol Liu, D- La Cañada/Flintridge) have called upon Sen
. Ed Hernandez, D-West Covina, to hold SCA 5 to provide more time to discuss
the potential impacts the bill will have on the Chinese, Asian Pacific
Islander and other affected communities. Yee, Lieu and Liu released the
following joint statement:
“As lifelong advocates for the Chinese American and other API communities,
we would never support a policy that we believed would negatively impact our
children. Prior to this vote, we heard no opposition to this bill. However,
in the past few weeks, we have heard from thousands of people throughout
California concerned about SCA 5. As a result, we have asked Sen. Hernandez
to hold SCA 5 until he has an opportunity to meet with affected communities
and attempt to build a consensus.”
SCA 5 was authored by Hernandez. If passed, the bill would place an
initiative on the November Ballot that would remove all references to public
education from Proposition 209, which amended the state constitution to
prohibit state government institutions from considering race, sex or
ethnicity in the areas of public employment, public contracting or public
education. | g********w
发帖数: 2539 | 2 认清形势，准备斗争，说白了dem就是准备拖到mid term之后再收割，避免影响席位而
已，sca5是dem既定方向不会改变。华人不能影响加州2016，但是可以影响2014。必须
要这些dem议员明确反对。
Sen
discuss
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.2.2
【在 d**u 的大作中提到】
: Keyword: 请求Hernandez考虑搁置
: ===================================================
: Sens. Lieu, Yee and Liu ask Hernandez to hold SCA 5
: SACRAMENTO – Sens. Ted Lieu, D-Redondo Beach; Leland Yee, D-San Francisco/
: San Mateo; and Carol Liu, D- La Cañada/Flintridge) have called upon Sen
: . Ed Hernandez, D-West Covina, to hold SCA 5 to provide more time to discuss
: the potential impacts the bill will have on the Chinese, Asian Pacific
: Islander and other affected communities. Yee, Lieu and Liu released the
: following joint statement:
: “As lifelong advocates for the Chinese American and other API communities,
| M******e
发帖数: 382 | 3 Keyword: ASKED to hold.
Nothing changes. We need to continue to fight and fight hard.
Sen
discuss
,
【在 d**u 的大作中提到】
: Keyword: 请求Hernandez考虑搁置
: ===================================================
: Sens. Lieu, Yee and Liu ask Hernandez to hold SCA 5
: SACRAMENTO – Sens. Ted Lieu, D-Redondo Beach; Leland Yee, D-San Francisco/
: San Mateo; and Carol Liu, D- La Cañada/Flintridge) have called upon Sen
: . Ed Hernandez, D-West Covina, to hold SCA 5 to provide more time to discuss
: the potential impacts the bill will have on the Chinese, Asian Pacific
: Islander and other affected communities. Yee, Lieu and Liu released the
: following joint statement:
: “As lifelong advocates for the Chinese American and other API communities,
| b******y
发帖数: 1684 | 4 只说ask Hernandez to hold, 没说Hernandez是否同意hold吧
Sen
discuss
,
【在 d**u 的大作中提到】
: Keyword: 请求Hernandez考虑搁置
: ===================================================
: Sens. Lieu, Yee and Liu ask Hernandez to hold SCA 5
: SACRAMENTO – Sens. Ted Lieu, D-Redondo Beach; Leland Yee, D-San Francisco/
: San Mateo; and Carol Liu, D- La Cañada/Flintridge) have called upon Sen
: . Ed Hernandez, D-West Covina, to hold SCA 5 to provide more time to discuss
: the potential impacts the bill will have on the Chinese, Asian Pacific
: Islander and other affected communities. Yee, Lieu and Liu released the
: following joint statement:
: “As lifelong advocates for the Chinese American and other API communities,
| g********s
发帖数: 3652 | | m*1
发帖数: 1997 | | h*********n
发帖数: 11319 | 7 越来越滑稽了
华裔参议员“要求”hernandez “hold”已经通过参议员的SCA5。 “Hernandez你就暂
时避避风头，给我们点面子”
我们要的是 SCA5 dead。差了十万八千里呢
DEM supermajority must go. It's the only solution.
Francisco/
communities
; auto parts; etc.
【在 b******y 的大作中提到】
: 只说ask Hernandez to hold, 没说Hernandez是否同意hold吧
:
: Sen
: discuss
: ,
| k****m
发帖数: 4670 | 8 搁置？
那么他们准备啥时候，再把这事情给偷偷的办理了？
当然了
他们有绝大多数的选票
不是啥大问题
我们想办法，去火星吧 | k****m
发帖数: 4670 | | c******a
发帖数: 4400 | 10 remove dem 2/3 advantage
that takes care of the problem | | | T*********s
发帖数: 2987 | 11 agree.
【在 g********w 的大作中提到】
: 认清形势，准备斗争，说白了dem就是准备拖到mid term之后再收割，避免影响席位而
: 已，sca5是dem既定方向不会改变。华人不能影响加州2016，但是可以影响2014。必须
: 要这些dem议员明确反对。
:
: Sen
: discuss
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.2.2
| c****e
发帖数: 9482 | 12
【在 g********w 的大作中提到】
: 认清形势，准备斗争，说白了dem就是准备拖到mid term之后再收割，避免影响席位而
: 已，sca5是dem既定方向不会改变。华人不能影响加州2016，但是可以影响2014。必须
: 要这些dem议员明确反对。
:
: Sen
: discuss
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.2.2
| T******g
发帖数: 21328 | 13 实际意思有机会卷土重来
【在 h*********n 的大作中提到】
: 越来越滑稽了
: 华裔参议员“要求”hernandez “hold”已经通过参议员的SCA5。 “Hernandez你就暂
: 时避避风头，给我们点面子”
: 我们要的是 SCA5 dead。差了十万八千里呢
: DEM supermajority must go. It's the only solution.
:
: Francisco/
: communities
: ; auto parts; etc.
| y*****y
发帖数: 1208 | 14 what is the source? Thanks.
Sen
discuss
,
【在 d**u 的大作中提到】
: Keyword: 请求Hernandez考虑搁置
: ===================================================
: Sens. Lieu, Yee and Liu ask Hernandez to hold SCA 5
: SACRAMENTO – Sens. Ted Lieu, D-Redondo Beach; Leland Yee, D-San Francisco/
: San Mateo; and Carol Liu, D- La Cañada/Flintridge) have called upon Sen
: . Ed Hernandez, D-West Covina, to hold SCA 5 to provide more time to discuss
: the potential impacts the bill will have on the Chinese, Asian Pacific
: Islander and other affected communities. Yee, Lieu and Liu released the
: following joint statement:
: “As lifelong advocates for the Chinese American and other API communities,
| A*********u
发帖数: 8976 | 15 source?
Sen
discuss
,
【在 d**u 的大作中提到】
: Keyword: 请求Hernandez考虑搁置
: ===================================================
: Sens. Lieu, Yee and Liu ask Hernandez to hold SCA 5
: SACRAMENTO – Sens. Ted Lieu, D-Redondo Beach; Leland Yee, D-San Francisco/
: San Mateo; and Carol Liu, D- La Cañada/Flintridge) have called upon Sen
: . Ed Hernandez, D-West Covina, to hold SCA 5 to provide more time to discuss
: the potential impacts the bill will have on the Chinese, Asian Pacific
: Islander and other affected communities. Yee, Lieu and Liu released the
: following joint statement:
: “As lifelong advocates for the Chinese American and other API communities,
| L**P
发帖数: 3792 | 16 209
prohibit state government institutions from considering race, sex or
ethnicity
其实准确的说
209 prohibit state to discriminate or give preferential treatment to
这两个说法，一个是禁止考虑种族，一个是禁止种族歧视或优待
给人的感觉完全不一样，但是原文到底是前者还是后者？
请自己去找答案
语言的微妙啊
Sen
discuss
,
【在 d**u 的大作中提到】
: Keyword: 请求Hernandez考虑搁置
: ===================================================
: Sens. Lieu, Yee and Liu ask Hernandez to hold SCA 5
: SACRAMENTO – Sens. Ted Lieu, D-Redondo Beach; Leland Yee, D-San Francisco/
: San Mateo; and Carol Liu, D- La Cañada/Flintridge) have called upon Sen
: . Ed Hernandez, D-West Covina, to hold SCA 5 to provide more time to discuss
: the potential impacts the bill will have on the Chinese, Asian Pacific
: Islander and other affected communities. Yee, Lieu and Liu released the
: following joint statement:
: “As lifelong advocates for the Chinese American and other API communities,
| H***o
发帖数: 533 | 17 http://vote96.sos.ca.gov/bp/209.htm
http://vote96.sos.ca.gov/bp/209text.htm
Prohibition Against Discrimination or Preferential Treatment by State and
Other Public Entities. Initiative Constitutional Amendment
Proposition 209: Text of Proposed Law
This initiative measure is submitted to the people in accordance with the
provisions of Article II, Section 8 of the Constitution.
This initiative measure expressly amends the Constitution by adding a
section thereto; therefore, new provisions proposed to be added are printed
in italic type to indicate that they are new.
PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO ARTICLE I
Section 31 is added to Article I of the California Constitution as follows:
SEC. 31. (a) The state shall not discriminate against, or grant preferential
treatment to, any individual or group on the basis of race, sex, color,
ethnicity, or national origin in the operation of public employment, public
education, or public contracting.
(b) This section shall apply only to action taken after the section's
effective date.
(c) Nothing in this section shall be interpreted as prohibiting bona fide
qualifications based on sex which are reasonably necessary to the normal
operation of public employment, public education, or public contracting.
(d) Nothing in this section shall be interpreted as invalidating any
court order or consent decree which is in force as of the effective date of
this section.
(e) Nothing in this section shall be interpreted as prohibiting action
which must be taken to establish or maintain eligibility for any federal
program, where ineligibility would result in a loss of federal funds to the
state.
(f) For the purposes of this section, ''state" shall include, but not
necessarily be limited to, the state itself, any city, county, city and
county, public university system, including the University of California,
community college district, school district, special district, or any other
political subdivision or governmental instrumentality of or within the state.
(g) The remedies available for violations of this section shall be the
same, regardless of the injured party's race, sex, color, ethnicity, or
national origin, as are otherwise available for violations of then-existing
California antidiscrimination law.
(h) This section shall be self-executing. If any part or parts of this
section are found to be in conflict with federal law or the United States
Constitution, the section shall be implemented to the maximum extent that
federal law and the United States Constitution permit. Any provision held
invalid shall be severable from the remaining portions of this section.
【在 L**P 的大作中提到】
: 209
: prohibit state government institutions from considering race, sex or
: ethnicity
: 其实准确的说
: 209 prohibit state to discriminate or give preferential treatment to
: 这两个说法，一个是禁止考虑种族，一个是禁止种族歧视或优待
: 给人的感觉完全不一样，但是原文到底是前者还是后者？
: 请自己去找答案
: 语言的微妙啊
:
| f****i
发帖数: 20252 | 18 fuck them
Sen
discuss
,
【在 d**u 的大作中提到】
: Keyword: 请求Hernandez考虑搁置
: ===================================================
: Sens. Lieu, Yee and Liu ask Hernandez to hold SCA 5
: SACRAMENTO – Sens. Ted Lieu, D-Redondo Beach; Leland Yee, D-San Francisco/
: San Mateo; and Carol Liu, D- La Cañada/Flintridge) have called upon Sen
: . Ed Hernandez, D-West Covina, to hold SCA 5 to provide more time to discuss
: the potential impacts the bill will have on the Chinese, Asian Pacific
: Islander and other affected communities. Yee, Lieu and Liu released the
: following joint statement:
: “As lifelong advocates for the Chinese American and other API communities,
| w********e
发帖数: 277 | 19 民主党很狡猾,大家不要被蒙蔽。
继续加紧,结束一党专政。 | d**u
发帖数: 240 | 20 28区议员 刘云平 官方网站 press release.
http://goo.gl/awdRuK
【在 y*****y 的大作中提到】
: what is the source? Thanks.
:
: Sen
: discuss
: ,
| | | d**u
发帖数: 240 | 21 28区议员 刘云平 官方网站 press release.
http://goo.gl/awdRuK
【在 A*********u 的大作中提到】
: source?
:
: Sen
: discuss
: ,
| t**********0
发帖数: 1700 | 22 这种骗人的东西为何置顶？
Sen
discuss
,
【在 d**u 的大作中提到】
: Keyword: 请求Hernandez考虑搁置
: ===================================================
: Sens. Lieu, Yee and Liu ask Hernandez to hold SCA 5
: SACRAMENTO – Sens. Ted Lieu, D-Redondo Beach; Leland Yee, D-San Francisco/
: San Mateo; and Carol Liu, D- La Cañada/Flintridge) have called upon Sen
: . Ed Hernandez, D-West Covina, to hold SCA 5 to provide more time to discuss
: the potential impacts the bill will have on the Chinese, Asian Pacific
: Islander and other affected communities. Yee, Lieu and Liu released the
: following joint statement:
: “As lifelong advocates for the Chinese American and other API communities,
| r******8
发帖数: 926 | 23 这三是真傻还是装傻，为什么在声明里只提到”华裔“而不是对整个亚裔。是想分裂亚
裔，挑拨离间吗？是想挑起其他族裔对华裔更多的误解吗？
堂堂议员，这种信不如不写，这种人真是居心叵测，竟然是代表偶们的议员，真是华人
的悲剧。 | A*********u
发帖数: 8976 | 24 这种骗人的东西为何置顶？
Sen
discuss
,
【在 d**u 的大作中提到】
: Keyword: 请求Hernandez考虑搁置
: ===================================================
: Sens. Lieu, Yee and Liu ask Hernandez to hold SCA 5
: SACRAMENTO – Sens. Ted Lieu, D-Redondo Beach; Leland Yee, D-San Francisco/
: San Mateo; and Carol Liu, D- La Cañada/Flintridge) have called upon Sen
: . Ed Hernandez, D-West Covina, to hold SCA 5 to provide more time to discuss
: the potential impacts the bill will have on the Chinese, Asian Pacific
: Islander and other affected communities. Yee, Lieu and Liu released the
: following joint statement:
: “As lifelong advocates for the Chinese American and other API communities,
| b******p
发帖数: 26 | 25 就是在 play on word. 没有任何明确行文说三人立场转变，只是说希望提供更多时间
讨论，希望Hernandez有机会和affected communities见面。通篇没有任何文字说他们
不再支持SCA5。他们表达的意思是，希望该法案的作者Hernandez可以讨论并听见受影
响者的声音。他们的解释是说之前支持SCA5时没有听到反对的声音。Tricky part是，
行文并没有说 如果他们知道亚裔反对，他们就会反对SCA5。那到底说了个啥呢？那就
是他们是“lifelong advocates for the Chinese American”，他们“would never
support a policy that we believed would negatively impact our children".
这不就是Carol Liu从一开始就在答复大家的，她从不认为SCA5会影响亚裔么。
这条press release的中心思想就是--“请(ni)相(shi)信(sha)我(bi)” |
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