n*****g
发帖数: 626 | 1 Email from 80-20 (3/21)
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Q: Who killed SCA 5?
A: YOU DID. The AsAms in CA, especially the ChAms, did.
The pro-Democratic newspapers would have you believe that SCA 5
was killed by the 3 ChAm senators, who have repented, or the Democratic
leadership. The die-hard Republicans will have you believe that the
Republican leadership helped killed SCA 5. The truth is that YOU Killed
SCA 5, because both parties were forced by the reality of the upcoming
elections to help the AsAm community kill SCA 5 - Ds want to avoid a
disaster during the next elections & Rs want to defeat a few incumbent Ds.
Q: What can we conclude?
A: We have the POWER to defend ourselves, when we work together & follow
good political advice. The politicians are weak before a united and
well-led AsAm community.
Q: How do we consolidate our SELF empowerment?
A: 4 easy key steps:
(1) We must REGISTER to vote and actually vote. See a list of orgs.*which
have joined 80-20 for a great campaign to register more voters.
(2) We need to pass a strong message to all AsAm politicians who have
been negligent in defending our rightful interests. So 80-20
recommends UN-electing
(a) Paul Fong who'll be term limited out as an Assemblyman and
will be running for City Council 1 in San Jose, and
(b) Leland Yee who is also term limited out as a Senator and will be
running for Secretary of State of CA.
Ted Lieu has helped 80-20 stop SCA 5 in many ways. He also
stated publicly: "I will vote against SCA 5 if and when it comes
back to the Senate and any amendment in any form that continues to
seek race conscious admissions." We recommend that you give him
due consideration in his Congressional campaign. Carol Liu's attitude
in SCA 5 is very questionable, but she is NOT running this year.
(3) Respect all communities of all races.
(4) Don't blame Sen. Hermandez for proposing SCA 5. He is working for
the interests of his constituents as an elected official should. If all
AsAm
elected officials will be as dutiful to AsAm interest as Sen. Hermandez
is
to Hispanics' interests, AsAms will be doing great.
Q: Does defeating SCA 5 benefit AsAms nationally?
A: Yes! See how the international & national media now show respect to
AsAms, and to 80-20 Initiatives. In the last 3 days, 585b Woo, Pres. of
80-20 Initiative has 8 interview requests. Click on the blue words
to see the articles.
1. Economist, a weekly paper published in London, England
2. Southern California Public Radio
3. LA Times
4. San Francisco Chronicle
5. Sacramento Bee
6. The Nation
7. California Magazine, UC Berkeley Alumni Quarterly
8. PasAdena Star-News
9. 80-20 was also mentioned in a blog.
TOGETHER, we shall overcome.
Respectfully,
S. B. Woo, a volunteer
President, 80-20 National Asian Am. Political Action Committee
* 80-20 is honored to be working with these orgs to register AsAms:
Silicon Valley Chinese Association (SVCA)
CivilRights WeChat and Weibo Group
San Diego Asian American for Equality (SDAAFE)
Chinese United League
Join this great campaign, if you are not afraid of work. |
T*********s
发帖数: 2987 | |
j*****3
发帖数: 654 | 3 Wow! Support!
PFong的对手是谁？ |
j*****3
发帖数: 654 | 4 尤其zan这个：
(4) Don't blame Sen. Hermandez for proposing SCA 5. He is working for
the interests of his constituents as an elected official should. If all
AsAm elected officials will be as dutiful to AsAm interest as Sen.
Hermandez is to Hispanics' interests, AsAms will be doing great. |
c*******e
发帖数: 243 | 5 这一点不敢苟同。为自己的选民利益服务也得有道德底线，种族歧视就是种族歧视，不
管谁做都是错的。不论结果如何，难道希特勒不是为了德国人的利益？
all
【在 j*****3 的大作中提到】
: 尤其zan这个：
: (4) Don't blame Sen. Hermandez for proposing SCA 5. He is working for
: the interests of his constituents as an elected official should. If all
: AsAm elected officials will be as dutiful to AsAm interest as Sen.
: Hermandez is to Hispanics' interests, AsAms will be doing great.
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C**********y
发帖数: 480 | 6 Yee changed his position and helped blocking in the end. We should forgive
him. |
j*****3
发帖数: 654 | 7 You are welcome to keep/reserve your own opinions but I hope you will agree
with the overall direction and the call for un-elect this two officials.
There are too few of us we have to work together.
I think they mostly don't want to stir conflicts (especially open conflicts)
between us and Latino.
【在 c*******e 的大作中提到】
: 这一点不敢苟同。为自己的选民利益服务也得有道德底线，种族歧视就是种族歧视，不
: 管谁做都是错的。不论结果如何，难道希特勒不是为了德国人的利益？
:
: all
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j*****3
发帖数: 654 | 8 I trust 80/20 to have done their own research, they are much experienced and
resourceful than individuals like you and me. I trust SVCA the same way.
There are just too few of us, we cannot afford to go multiple directions.
If I feel their decision is misinformed or mislead, I'll contact them
directly with my findings in case they are not aware of it. BUT, in the end,
when a decision is made, it is MADE. I'll do whatever they call us to do
till the day I'm convinced I've misplaced my trust, which I hope will never
happen.
【在 C**********y 的大作中提到】
: Yee changed his position and helped blocking in the end. We should forgive
: him.
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C**********y
发帖数: 480 | 9 Yee will be better than brand-new Democratic, unless you can get republic in. |
N******7
发帖数: 1297 | 10 你这一点才不敢苟同呢。希特勒是不是为了德国人的利益不敢确定，但他的做法最终让
德国人没得到利益是肯定的。
这里有两个问题：
1、为了自己的利益，不见得要损害别人的利益。
2、为了自己的利益和得到自己的利益不总是划等号的。
【在 c*******e 的大作中提到】
: 这一点不敢苟同。为自己的选民利益服务也得有道德底线，种族歧视就是种族歧视，不
: 管谁做都是错的。不论结果如何，难道希特勒不是为了德国人的利益？
:
: all
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c*******e
发帖数: 243 | 11 从我所看到的消息，Yee的唯一对手是个西裔民主党。两害相较取其轻，不能单纯为了
报复，杀敌一千自损八百。等着几个组织能做出正确的判断吧。 |
f********l
发帖数: 112 | 12 如果80-20是为了华人利益考虑，Hernandez应该是第一个要反的。
如果Yee的唯一对手是个西裔民主党这消息是真的，可能背后有交易。反正只要民主党
占位就行。
以前说要register Republican，现在也不提了。
看来80-20的打手不少。
【在 c*******e 的大作中提到】
: 从我所看到的消息，Yee的唯一对手是个西裔民主党。两害相较取其轻，不能单纯为了
: 报复，杀敌一千自损八百。等着几个组织能做出正确的判断吧。
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j*****3
发帖数: 654 | 13 那你提出个有效的章程来吧，怎么个反法，搬家到D22投hernandez的对手？还是到各大
媒体上跟Latino对着干？
还有人家只说不选yee，什么时候说让民主党占位了？
第三，80-20有追发email说大家不用再注册gop了吗？大家都是成年人，难道告诉你一
次register gop还不够？
【在 f********l 的大作中提到】
: 如果80-20是为了华人利益考虑，Hernandez应该是第一个要反的。
: 如果Yee的唯一对手是个西裔民主党这消息是真的，可能背后有交易。反正只要民主党
: 占位就行。
: 以前说要register Republican，现在也不提了。
: 看来80-20的打手不少。
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T******g
发帖数: 115 | 14 YEE的对手是个西裔民主党，这种情况下我肯定挺YEE。倒是西裔上台，再弄个SCA 6，
7， 8， 9， 按照80-20，我们连ＢＬＡＭＥ的权利都没有了。
【在 j*****3 的大作中提到】
: 那你提出个有效的章程来吧，怎么个反法，搬家到D22投hernandez的对手？还是到各大
: 媒体上跟Latino对着干？
: 还有人家只说不选yee，什么时候说让民主党占位了？
: 第三，80-20有追发email说大家不用再注册gop了吗？大家都是成年人，难道告诉你一
: 次register gop还不够？
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N******7
发帖数: 1297 | 15 谁啥时候说你没权利Blame了？你当然可以Blame了，如果Blame有用，大家一起坐这儿
Blame好了，Blame完了就没人再会提出SCA6-7-8-9了，是不是？
，
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】
: YEE的对手是个西裔民主党，这种情况下我肯定挺YEE。倒是西裔上台，再弄个SCA 6，
: 7， 8， 9， 按照80-20，我们连ＢＬＡＭＥ的权利都没有了。
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f********l
发帖数: 112 | 16 我不像80-20那样有人有钱，有的话早跟Hernandez干上了。原来希望80-20能带头做些
实事。
听说Yee的对手是民主党西裔。
你显然没有做过voter registration。这种事只发一个email有什么用。
【在 j*****3 的大作中提到】
: 那你提出个有效的章程来吧，怎么个反法，搬家到D22投hernandez的对手？还是到各大
: 媒体上跟Latino对着干？
: 还有人家只说不选yee，什么时候说让民主党占位了？
: 第三，80-20有追发email说大家不用再注册gop了吗？大家都是成年人，难道告诉你一
: 次register gop还不够？
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f********l
发帖数: 112 | 17 blame就是要把他选下去。
80-20要怎么做呢？Hernandez是唯一候选人，投票给Hernandez？
【在 N******7 的大作中提到】
: 谁啥时候说你没权利Blame了？你当然可以Blame了，如果Blame有用，大家一起坐这儿
: Blame好了，Blame完了就没人再会提出SCA6-7-8-9了，是不是？
:
: ，
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j*****3
发帖数: 654 | 18 80-20要怎么做我们已经知道了，if you have better ways please put it forward
and we'll all support you.
【在 f********l 的大作中提到】
: blame就是要把他选下去。
: 80-20要怎么做呢？Hernandez是唯一候选人，投票给Hernandez？
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y***i
发帖数: 11639 | 19 80-20怎么不反Hermandez了？泼污水也不能这种泼法。
为了
【在 f********l 的大作中提到】
: 如果80-20是为了华人利益考虑，Hernandez应该是第一个要反的。
: 如果Yee的唯一对手是个西裔民主党这消息是真的，可能背后有交易。反正只要民主党
: 占位就行。
: 以前说要register Republican，现在也不提了。
: 看来80-20的打手不少。
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b**********s
发帖数: 9531 | 20 又是给汉奸洗地的。
支持80-20的呼吁！
，
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】
: YEE的对手是个西裔民主党，这种情况下我肯定挺YEE。倒是西裔上台，再弄个SCA 6，
: 7， 8， 9， 按照80-20，我们连ＢＬＡＭＥ的权利都没有了。
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b**********s
发帖数: 9531 | 21 攘外必先安内
【在 y***i 的大作中提到】
: 80-20怎么不反Hermandez了？泼污水也不能这种泼法。
:
: 为了
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c*****l
发帖数: 806 | 22 They've never changed their positions. I listened to NPR and Hernandez still
want SCA5.
United as we stand so we can protect our interests.
Vote against Ds this time.
【在 C**********y 的大作中提到】
: Yee changed his position and helped blocking in the end. We should forgive
: him.
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c*******e
发帖数: 243 | 23 对不起，更正一下。共和党有个人参选secretary of state。有没有戏就不知道了。
Republican Party
Pete Peterson, Executive Director of the Davenport Institute for Public
Engagement at Pepperdine University
民主党有三个，除Yee之外，一个是墨裔，一个是叫Derek Cressman的白人。 |
R******0
发帖数: 24 | 24 80-20說的對。唯在Yee余胤良與LA西裔參議員競爭州務卿Secretary of State上， 我
不會拱手將我一票送給西裔。我會用我一票去要求及影響Yee余胤良。畢竟Yee余胤良能
受華人社區影響。對華裔社區完全陌生的西裔能嗎？反而最可能跟華人作對以換取他自
己人的選票。 |
n*****g
发帖数: 626 | 25
【在 n*****g 的大作中提到】
: Email from 80-20 (3/21)
: ==================================================================
: Q: Who killed SCA 5?
: A: YOU DID. The AsAms in CA, especially the ChAms, did.
: The pro-Democratic newspapers would have you believe that SCA 5
: was killed by the 3 ChAm senators, who have repented, or the Democratic
: leadership. The die-hard Republicans will have you believe that the
: Republican leadership helped killed SCA 5. The truth is that YOU Killed
: SCA 5, because both parties were forced by the reality of the upcoming
: elections to help the AsAm community kill SCA 5 - Ds want to avoid a
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g****n
发帖数: 3313 | 26 PF早就被华人社区唾弃了，本来这次一开始就该大张旗鼓反掉他，但是由于某些因素和
某些所谓政治人物的压力，这个一直被按下去了。直到最后，在我看有些晚了，内部同
学们可以讨论。不过这件事也让我们看清湾区某些人的态度和行为方式，下次就知道了
，了解一个人，是最重要的，我说的不只是对PF的了解。
PF 一直就绕弯子，态度一点不诚恳。从鱼翅法案开始，PF 和YE 的态度就鲜明了。
YE 还是可以支持利用的。 |
v*******e
发帖数: 11604 | 27 反正支持80-20。他们从90年代就给留学生发email，如今幼苗要长成大树。 |
T******g
发帖数: 21328 | 28 SCA5根本没死，民主党在准备下一次众议院的投票
still
【在 c*****l 的大作中提到】
: They've never changed their positions. I listened to NPR and Hernandez still
: want SCA5.
: United as we stand so we can protect our interests.
: Vote against Ds this time.
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n****l
发帖数: 6652 | 29 这个email起草的有些匆忙，和前几个的水平比，差不少。
dont blame那一段，完全可以用更正面的话，而不是用dont blame这样的来表达。
yee在sca5的表现比猥琐的pf 强，为什么unselect他？如果换个西裔，岂不更差。
谁把这话传给吴老爷子吧。。。
【在 n*****g 的大作中提到】
: Email from 80-20 (3/21)
: ==================================================================
: Q: Who killed SCA 5?
: A: YOU DID. The AsAms in CA, especially the ChAms, did.
: The pro-Democratic newspapers would have you believe that SCA 5
: was killed by the 3 ChAm senators, who have repented, or the Democratic
: leadership. The die-hard Republicans will have you believe that the
: Republican leadership helped killed SCA 5. The truth is that YOU Killed
: SCA 5, because both parties were forced by the reality of the upcoming
: elections to help the AsAm community kill SCA 5 - Ds want to avoid a
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n******n
发帖数: 12088 | 30 是的。如果赤裸裸地推崇利益至上，华人不可能赢。
【在 c*******e 的大作中提到】
: 这一点不敢苟同。为自己的选民利益服务也得有道德底线，种族歧视就是种族歧视，不
: 管谁做都是错的。不论结果如何，难道希特勒不是为了德国人的利益？
:
: all
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n******n
发帖数: 12088 | 31 什么政治人物？这里不是中国，没必要搞周斌之父的曲笔。
【在 g****n 的大作中提到】
: PF早就被华人社区唾弃了，本来这次一开始就该大张旗鼓反掉他，但是由于某些因素和
: 某些所谓政治人物的压力，这个一直被按下去了。直到最后，在我看有些晚了，内部同
: 学们可以讨论。不过这件事也让我们看清湾区某些人的态度和行为方式，下次就知道了
: ，了解一个人，是最重要的，我说的不只是对PF的了解。
: PF 一直就绕弯子，态度一点不诚恳。从鱼翅法案开始，PF 和YE 的态度就鲜明了。
: YE 还是可以支持利用的。
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l**t
发帖数: 10440 | 32 还是给人家留点面子吧，其实如果留意我以前的帖子，应该知道是谁
好歹也曾经给大家出过力，不必因一次错误就否定，继续观察即可
其实主要也是他没料到反SCA5进展如此神速，不然也不会拖着我们这么久了
【在 n******n 的大作中提到】
: 什么政治人物？这里不是中国，没必要搞周斌之父的曲笔。
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j*****3
发帖数: 654 | 33 我咋觉得政治人物最不在乎的就是面子呢 :p
【在 l**t 的大作中提到】
: 还是给人家留点面子吧，其实如果留意我以前的帖子，应该知道是谁
: 好歹也曾经给大家出过力，不必因一次错误就否定，继续观察即可
: 其实主要也是他没料到反SCA5进展如此神速，不然也不会拖着我们这么久了
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a****e
发帖数: 98 | |
y***i
发帖数: 11639 | 35 FBI帮我们unelect一个。
话说这个词un-elect真是不好认。我还以为80-20要大家选Paul Fong呢。老吴这次立
场真是非常坚定。
【在 a****e 的大作中提到】
: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/fbi-california-state-sen-lel
: leland yee 今天被捕了
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