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Seattle版 - Xbox的dev director很有勇气...
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话题: xbox话题: dev话题: director话题: gm话题: lead
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z***e
发帖数: 5393
1
XBox的dev director今天的讲话不错,很直接,基本上就是质问微软那一堆一堆的什么PM team, User experience team到底是干什么吃的...
http://resnet/FullVideo.aspx?id=18951
l**n
发帖数: 2405
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watching... "10x"
Q*K
发帖数: 3464
3
这哥们儿很牛啊。career也很成功。
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tian-lim/7/901/904
敢说实话。说的很好,呵呵。应该让他去给ballmer上堂课。
z***e
发帖数: 5393
4
今天看的一个是lu qi的keynote,也是言之有物;然后就是这位,胆子太大了,用赤裸
裸的数据和事实揭露了微软的官僚,第一张slides的对比触目惊心(xbox有100多dev,
100多tester,几十个PM,外加所谓的什么User Experience Research team之类的;
iPhone有100多dev,20个tester,几个PM),还有后面那个讽刺微软的那些VP喜欢说的
东西“我们有专门的team处理customer issue""这个feature一定要有个PM来lead""这
个bug一定要有个tester来sign off""我们有专门的xxxx team来做xxxx"也很赞。
看来还是中国人说真话的多。

【在 Q*K 的大作中提到】
: 这哥们儿很牛啊。career也很成功。
: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tian-lim/7/901/904
: 敢说实话。说的很好,呵呵。应该让他去给ballmer上堂课。

m***l
发帖数: 1846
5
牛人啊,传说中的温拿

【在 Q*K 的大作中提到】
: 这哥们儿很牛啊。career也很成功。
: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tian-lim/7/901/904
: 敢说实话。说的很好,呵呵。应该让他去给ballmer上堂课。

j****g
发帖数: 597
6
牛人啊,升的飞快
c****e
发帖数: 1453
7
I am amazed that there are lots of GM under GM, diretor under director, Lead
under Lead. MS is very hard, if not impossible to make itself agile. When a
GM has only 2 dev manager, why would he need a director to manage those 2
manager and has only one direct report + the secretary,oh wait, architect
and other a bunch of high level PMs. If you go through the tree, the funny
part is that people that contribute code count less than 20% of the
headcounts in that org.
b********7
发帖数: 12906
8
大公司的通病.

Lead
a

【在 c****e 的大作中提到】
: I am amazed that there are lots of GM under GM, diretor under director, Lead
: under Lead. MS is very hard, if not impossible to make itself agile. When a
: GM has only 2 dev manager, why would he need a director to manage those 2
: manager and has only one direct report + the secretary,oh wait, architect
: and other a bunch of high level PMs. If you go through the tree, the funny
: part is that people that contribute code count less than 20% of the
: headcounts in that org.

y*******d
发帖数: 1765
9
awesome talk
It may change my mind about agile.
m******6
发帖数: 599
10
anybody could post the video that i can see? thx!!!
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