z***e 发帖数: 5393 | 1 XBox的dev director今天的讲话不错,很直接,基本上就是质问微软那一堆一堆的什么PM team, User experience team到底是干什么吃的...
http://resnet/FullVideo.aspx?id=18951 |
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Q*K 发帖数: 3464 | 3 这哥们儿很牛啊。career也很成功。
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tian-lim/7/901/904
敢说实话。说的很好,呵呵。应该让他去给ballmer上堂课。 |
z***e 发帖数: 5393 | 4 今天看的一个是lu qi的keynote,也是言之有物;然后就是这位,胆子太大了,用赤裸
裸的数据和事实揭露了微软的官僚,第一张slides的对比触目惊心(xbox有100多dev,
100多tester,几十个PM,外加所谓的什么User Experience Research team之类的;
iPhone有100多dev,20个tester,几个PM),还有后面那个讽刺微软的那些VP喜欢说的
东西“我们有专门的team处理customer issue""这个feature一定要有个PM来lead""这
个bug一定要有个tester来sign off""我们有专门的xxxx team来做xxxx"也很赞。
看来还是中国人说真话的多。
【在 Q*K 的大作中提到】 : 这哥们儿很牛啊。career也很成功。 : http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tian-lim/7/901/904 : 敢说实话。说的很好,呵呵。应该让他去给ballmer上堂课。
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m***l 发帖数: 1846 | 5 牛人啊,传说中的温拿
【在 Q*K 的大作中提到】 : 这哥们儿很牛啊。career也很成功。 : http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tian-lim/7/901/904 : 敢说实话。说的很好,呵呵。应该让他去给ballmer上堂课。
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c****e 发帖数: 1453 | 7 I am amazed that there are lots of GM under GM, diretor under director, Lead
under Lead. MS is very hard, if not impossible to make itself agile. When a
GM has only 2 dev manager, why would he need a director to manage those 2
manager and has only one direct report + the secretary,oh wait, architect
and other a bunch of high level PMs. If you go through the tree, the funny
part is that people that contribute code count less than 20% of the
headcounts in that org. |
b********7 发帖数: 12906 | 8 大公司的通病.
Lead
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【在 c****e 的大作中提到】 : I am amazed that there are lots of GM under GM, diretor under director, Lead : under Lead. MS is very hard, if not impossible to make itself agile. When a : GM has only 2 dev manager, why would he need a director to manage those 2 : manager and has only one direct report + the secretary,oh wait, architect : and other a bunch of high level PMs. If you go through the tree, the funny : part is that people that contribute code count less than 20% of the : headcounts in that org.
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y*******d 发帖数: 1765 | 9 awesome talk
It may change my mind about agile. |
m******6 发帖数: 599 | 10 anybody could post the video that i can see? thx!!! |