l********y
发帖数: 1327 | 1 5天内辐射就要过来了，没人担心？
看过2012吗，大部分人是到死也没有办法移动的，因为你们工作学习事业在这，想跑就
能跑哪有那么容易？所以政府官方媒体都不会告诉你真相让你们扰乱社会安全秩序的。
不然你想想就算cnn说辐射有50%的可能会导致加州10%的人口生病，你看加州有多少人
还会留下？美国还不彻底乱了。事实就是就算真的辐射过来了，你也不会被通知！
所以我觉得宁愿自己相信自己，想想办法能不能自己测量一下辐射量，大家团结起来互
通一下消息。 |
b*******k
发帖数: 16989 | 2 盖勒计数器
【在 l********y 的大作中提到】
: 5天内辐射就要过来了，没人担心？
: 看过2012吗，大部分人是到死也没有办法移动的，因为你们工作学习事业在这，想跑就
: 能跑哪有那么容易？所以政府官方媒体都不会告诉你真相让你们扰乱社会安全秩序的。
: 不然你想想就算cnn说辐射有50%的可能会导致加州10%的人口生病，你看加州有多少人
: 还会留下？美国还不彻底乱了。事实就是就算真的辐射过来了，你也不会被通知！
: 所以我觉得宁愿自己相信自己，想想办法能不能自己测量一下辐射量，大家团结起来互
: 通一下消息。
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N*D
发帖数: 3641 | 3 俺有防辐射服，不知道能卖多少银子。。。
【在 l********y 的大作中提到】
: 5天内辐射就要过来了，没人担心？
: 看过2012吗，大部分人是到死也没有办法移动的，因为你们工作学习事业在这，想跑就
: 能跑哪有那么容易？所以政府官方媒体都不会告诉你真相让你们扰乱社会安全秩序的。
: 不然你想想就算cnn说辐射有50%的可能会导致加州10%的人口生病，你看加州有多少人
: 还会留下？美国还不彻底乱了。事实就是就算真的辐射过来了，你也不会被通知！
: 所以我觉得宁愿自己相信自己，想想办法能不能自己测量一下辐射量，大家团结起来互
: 通一下消息。
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p******a
发帖数: 413 | |
l********y
发帖数: 1327 | 5 这玩意能测辐射？
【在 p******a 的大作中提到】
: http://www.radiationnetwork.com/Monitor4.htm
: 你要是测到什么超标的东西，麻烦说一声
: 省得我买了
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Q*K
发帖数: 3464 | 6 用点脑子好不好？
几千公里呢。这里要是受了影响，日本人都死光了
【在 l********y 的大作中提到】
: 5天内辐射就要过来了，没人担心？
: 看过2012吗，大部分人是到死也没有办法移动的，因为你们工作学习事业在这，想跑就
: 能跑哪有那么容易？所以政府官方媒体都不会告诉你真相让你们扰乱社会安全秩序的。
: 不然你想想就算cnn说辐射有50%的可能会导致加州10%的人口生病，你看加州有多少人
: 还会留下？美国还不彻底乱了。事实就是就算真的辐射过来了，你也不会被通知！
: 所以我觉得宁愿自己相信自己，想想办法能不能自己测量一下辐射量，大家团结起来互
: 通一下消息。
|
l********y
发帖数: 1327 | 7 日本人死光也是数月之后，你早被辐射到了还以为没关系呢。
早说了，大部分人都是不死到临头不知觉的。
【在 Q*K 的大作中提到】
: 用点脑子好不好？
: 几千公里呢。这里要是受了影响，日本人都死光了
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b********7
发帖数: 12906 | 8 建议你逃到火星去. 这样活下来的机会还大点.
【在 l********y 的大作中提到】
: 日本人死光也是数月之后，你早被辐射到了还以为没关系呢。
: 早说了，大部分人都是不死到临头不知觉的。
|
l********y
发帖数: 1327 | 9 总有你这样的不在乎的人，也对2012总得要有那么多群众演员
【在 b********7 的大作中提到】
: 建议你逃到火星去. 这样活下来的机会还大点.
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b********7
发帖数: 12906 | 10 哈哈..那你赶快去买船票..哦不对, 你没那么多钱. 唉...你要跟我们群众演员一起死
了. 真可惜啊.
【在 l********y 的大作中提到】
: 总有你这样的不在乎的人，也对2012总得要有那么多群众演员
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s********y
发帖数: 3811 | 11 把灯关了，让你同事/朋友/老婆/老公 看看是不是发荧光...
【在 l********y 的大作中提到】
: 5天内辐射就要过来了，没人担心？
: 看过2012吗，大部分人是到死也没有办法移动的，因为你们工作学习事业在这，想跑就
: 能跑哪有那么容易？所以政府官方媒体都不会告诉你真相让你们扰乱社会安全秩序的。
: 不然你想想就算cnn说辐射有50%的可能会导致加州10%的人口生病，你看加州有多少人
: 还会留下？美国还不彻底乱了。事实就是就算真的辐射过来了，你也不会被通知！
: 所以我觉得宁愿自己相信自己，想想办法能不能自己测量一下辐射量，大家团结起来互
: 通一下消息。
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l********y
发帖数: 1327 | 12 放心不会跟你一起的，和你不是一路人。
大家各走各路吧，算我啥都没说，没意思。
【在 b********7 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈..那你赶快去买船票..哦不对, 你没那么多钱. 唉...你要跟我们群众演员一起死
: 了. 真可惜啊.
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m**********r
发帖数: 618 | 13 研究了一下，这段消息里从上往下数第4幅图里的人穿的防护服看起来比较靠谱吧？好
像是类似铝箔/金属质地的？有谁知道哪有卖的么？ 到时候咱一家大小穿上这个，门窗
紧闭在家呆个十天半个月的成不？
http://news.wenxuecity.com/messages/201103/news-gb2312-1304424. |
p******a
发帖数: 413 | 14 你们看过医生没，拍X光片子穿的防护服，几块大铅板镶在里面那种。你天天穿着就行
了。
当然还得防呼吸道感染，买个防毒面具那种头盔就行了。
玩过Fallout的都知道走到有辐射的地方会『咯咯咯』的响，那个叫Geiger Counter，
楼上有Link，建议随身背着。走到哪儿测哪儿。一旦响的频率高了上mitbbs发个帖让我
们大家好都赶紧跑 |
b********7
发帖数: 12906 | 15 嗯. 强烈建议大家每天穿铅板防辐射服. 安全还健身. 一举两得. |
w******u
发帖数: 2107 | 16 lz估计没看过牙医，没照过x-ray吧，就算现在没照过，以后早晚要照，这些辐射都远
远比日本的来得强，有本事你就一辈子别照x-ray. |
h******i
发帖数: 282 | 17 First I guess the radiation level may not be high enough to be harmful when the fallout cloud reaches here in about 6 or 7 days.
And in case the radiation level is harmful when the fallout comes, we would probably all know. We better hide in side with windows closed if that is the case, and government may distribute and ask people in danger (children) to take potassium iodide pills (KI pills) to prevent the harm of "radium iodide" that may comes with the fallout. That KI pills are out of stock everywhere but government should have some stored supply. CDC has this page to explain the details:
http://www.bt.cdc.gov/radiation/ki.asp
What does KI do?
Following a radiological or nuclear event, radioactive iodine may be
released into the air and then be breathed into the lungs. Radioactive
iodine may also contaminate the local food supply and get into the body
through food or through drink. When radioactive materials get into the body
through breathing, eating, or drinking, we say that “internal contamination
” has occurred. In the case of internal contamination with radioactive
iodine, the thyroid gland quickly absorbs this chemical. Radioactive iodine
absorbed by the thyroid can then injure the gland. Because non-radioactive
KI acts to block radioactive iodine from being taken into the thyroid gland,
it can help protect this gland from injury.
Note that if you are 40 years older, you don't need to take it because the chance of 40 years older adults getting tyroid cancer is very low according to that web site!
Also some information about the harm of "radium iodide" during a similar nuclear fall out:
The radioactive materials released during the Chernobyl contained high levels of radioactive iodine, a material that accumulates in the thyroid. People, especially children, in heavily contaminated areas, which included Belarus, the Ukraine, and other areas of Eastern Europe, were heavily exposed to these iodines (particularly iodine-131, with a half-life of 8 days) via food, primarily contaminated milk, and also via breathing the radioactive clouds.
One of the continuing health effects of the Chernobyl accident has been the dramatic increase in thyroid cancer among children in the affected area. |
l********y
发帖数: 1327 | 18 牙齿好是没看过牙医。x-ray还是照过的，出国体检难道你不照？
但是照一下和辐射十几天那累计值不一样吧？
【在 w******u 的大作中提到】
: lz估计没看过牙医，没照过x-ray吧，就算现在没照过，以后早晚要照，这些辐射都远
: 远比日本的来得强，有本事你就一辈子别照x-ray.
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R****7
发帖数: 617 | 19 LZ知不知道原来的主要核试验方式之一就是大气层实验，从原子弹发明起将近2000次核
试验，其中总有几百次是大气层核试验，中国最后一次大气层核试验是80年。
一次核试验的污染要远大于十次核电站泄露吧，现在大家还不是活的好好的，不要杞人
忧天啦 |
m******6
发帖数: 599 | 20 我怎么觉得核电站泄露更严重啊！
不过应该没事的，要有事美国人早就跑了
而且风向也不是一直向东吹 |
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W***i
发帖数: 9134 | 21 新浪上报导吹过了要6-10天。 过来之后剩下750RADS, 对人体影响不是很大 |
i*r
发帖数: 83 | 22 好像还是有点靠谱的
Military Crew Said to Be Exposed to Radiation, but Officials Call Risk in U.
S. Slight
By WILLIAM J. BROAD
Published: March 13, 2011
The Pentagon was expected to announce that the aircraft carrier Ronald
Reagan, which is sailing in the Pacific, passed through a radioactive cloud
from stricken nuclear reactors in Japan, causing crew members on deck to
receive a month’s worth of radiation in about an hour, government officials
said Sunday.
Multimedia
Interactive Feature
The Crippled Japanese Nuclear Reactors
Related
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March 14, 2011)
*
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Low for Now (March 14, 2011)
*
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*
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Related in Opinion
*
Room For Debate: Japan's Nuclear Crisis: Lessons for the U.S.
The officials added that American helicopters flying missions about 60 miles
north of the damaged reactors became coated with particulate radiation that
had to be washed off.
There was no indication that any of the military personnel had experienced
ill effects from the exposure. (Everyone is exposed to a small amount of
natural background radiation.)
But the episodes showed that the prevailing winds were picking up
radioactive material from crippled reactors in northeastern Japan. Ever
since an earthquake struck Japan on Friday, the authorities worldwide have
been laying plans to map where radioactive plumes might blow and determine
what, if any, danger they could pose to people.
Blogs were churning with alarm. But officials insisted that unless the quake
-damaged nuclear plants deteriorated into full meltdown, any radiation that
reached the United States would be too weak to do any harm.
Washington had “hypothetical plots” for worst-case plume dispersal within
hours of the start of the crisis, a senior official said Sunday. The aim,
the official added, was “more to help Japan” than the United States, since
few experts foresaw high levels of radiation reaching the West Coast.
For now, the prevailing winds over Japan were blowing eastward across the
Pacific. If they continue to do so, international stations for radioactive
tracking at Wake or Midway Islands might detect radiation later this week,
said Annika Thunborg, a spokeswoman for an arm of the United Nations in
Vienna that monitors the planet for spikes in radioactivity.
“At this point, we have not picked up anything” in detectors midway
between Japan and Hawaii, Ms. Thunborg said in an interview on Sunday. “We
’re talking a couple of days — nothing before Tuesday — in terms of
picking something up.”
Agencies involved in the tracking efforts include the World Meteorological
Organization, the International Atomic Energy Agency and the Comprehensive
Test Ban Treaty Organization, which runs a global network of more than 60
stations that sniff the air for radiation spikes.
In the United States, the Departments of Defense and Energy maintain large
facilities and cadres of specialists for tracking airborne releases of
radiation, both civilian and military.
On Sunday, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission said it expected no “harmful
levels of radioactivity” to move on the winds to Hawaii, Alaska or the West
Coast from the reactors in Japan, “given the thousands of miles between
the two countries.”
In interviews, some private nuclear experts called a windborne threat
unlikely. Others urged caution.
“We’re all worrying about it,” said Robert Alvarez, a nuclear expert who,
from 1993 to 1999, was a policy adviser to the secretary of energy, who
runs the nation’s nuclear complex.
“It’s going to be very important,” he added, “for the Japanese and U.S.
authorities to inform the public about the nature of the plumes and any need
for precautionary measures.”
The plume issue has arisen before. In 1986, radiation spewing from the
Chernobyl disaster in Ukraine was spread around the globe on winds and
reached the West Coast in 10 days. It was judged more of a curiosity than a
threat.
Since then, scientists have refined their abilities to monitor such
atmospheric releases. The advances are rooted in the development of new
networks of radiation detectors, flotillas of imaging satellites and the
advent of supercomputers that can model the subtle complexities of the wind
to draw up advanced forecasts.
With the Japanese crisis, popular apprehension has also soared.
“Concern has been raised about a massive radioactive cloud escaping and
sweeping over the West Coast,” said a recent blog, recommending whole
grains and health foods for fighting radiation poisoning.
On another blog, someone asked, “Should I take iodine now?” That referred
to pills that can prevent poisoning from the atmospheric release of iodine-
131, a radioactive byproduct of nuclear plants that the Japanese authorities
have identified as escaping into the atmosphere.
While federal officials expected little danger in the United States from
Japanese plumes, they were taking no chances. On Sunday, Energy Department
officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said the agency was
working on three fronts.
One main player is the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California.
Officials said they had activated its National Atmospheric Release Advisory
Center, which draws on meteorologists, nuclear scientists and computer
scientists to forecast plume dispersal.
Separately, energy officials said the agency was readying plans to deploy
two-person monitoring and sampling teams, if necessary. The teams would
travel to consulates, military installations and Navy ships to sample the
air in a coordinated effort to improve plume tracking.
Finally, the department was preparing what it calls its Aerial Measuring
System. Its detectors and analytical equipment can be mounted on a variety
of aircraft. Officials said the equipment and monitoring team are staged out
of the department’s Remote Sensing Laboratory at Nellis Air Force Base in
Nevada, and are on two-hour call.
“We’re on top of this,” a department official said.
David E. Sanger contributed reporting from Washington. |
n*******0
发帖数: 2002 | 23 这不就是测核辐射的么。。
【在 l********y 的大作中提到】
: 这玩意能测辐射？
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b*********d
发帖数: 3539 | 24 The exact units of measurement vary, but light radiation sickness begins at
about 50–100 rad (0.5–1 gray (Gy), 0.5–1 Sv, 50–100 rem, 50,000–100,000
mrem).
750 rad = 7.5 Gy = 7.5 sV = 7500 msV
4500-5000 msV: LD50 in humans (from radiation poisoning), with medical
treatment，
如果750 rad数字没错的话，加州也就死一半吧，剩下一半，身体好的，得扑腾大半年
之后才得癌症。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_%28radiation%2
【在 W***i 的大作中提到】
: 新浪上报导吹过了要6-10天。 过来之后剩下750RADS, 对人体影响不是很大
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s*********9
发帖数: 9860 | 25 六大类食物帮你防辐射：
抗辐射武器一：番茄红素 例如：番茄、西瓜等红色水果。
抗辐射武器二：维生素E、维生素C 例如：各种豆类，橄榄油、葵花子油；芥菜、卷心
菜、萝卜等十字花科蔬菜；鲜枣、橘子、猕猴桃等新鲜水果。
抗辐射武器三：维生素A、β胡萝卜素 例如：鱼肝油、动物肝脏；鸡肉、蛋黄；西兰花
、胡萝卜、菠菜等。
抗辐射武器四：硒 例如：芝麻、麦芽和黄芪；酵母、蛋类、啤酒；龙虾、金枪鱼等海
产品；大蒜、蘑菇等。
抗辐射武器五：脂多糖、维生素A原 例如：绿茶、绿豆等。
抗辐射武器六：胶原弹性物质 例如：海带、紫菜；动物的皮肤、骨髓。 |
S********t
发帖数: 3431 | 26
fringe版本？
【在 s********y 的大作中提到】
: 把灯关了，让你同事/朋友/老婆/老公 看看是不是发荧光...
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S**********9
发帖数: 217 | |
c*****e
发帖数: 339 | 28 俺上班时候一般带这玩意，3个月换一次。
【在 l********y 的大作中提到】
: 5天内辐射就要过来了，没人担心？
: 看过2012吗，大部分人是到死也没有办法移动的，因为你们工作学习事业在这，想跑就
: 能跑哪有那么容易？所以政府官方媒体都不会告诉你真相让你们扰乱社会安全秩序的。
: 不然你想想就算cnn说辐射有50%的可能会导致加州10%的人口生病，你看加州有多少人
: 还会留下？美国还不彻底乱了。事实就是就算真的辐射过来了，你也不会被通知！
: 所以我觉得宁愿自己相信自己，想想办法能不能自己测量一下辐射量，大家团结起来互
: 通一下消息。
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f********r
发帖数: 723 | 29 2012前你会不会心力交瘁而提前先那啥了呀？先吃点补心补脑的吧。 |
f*****s
发帖数: 293 | 30 这个靠谱，不过三个月时间太长了，这种东东叫做OSL，自己没办法测dose的。所以还
是搞个GM counter吧
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
: 俺上班时候一般带这玩意，3个月换一次。
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l*********e
发帖数: 680 | |
o**********e
发帖数: 18403 | 32 geiger counter 俺有. will update |
j******h
发帖数: 3904 | |
b********7
发帖数: 12906 | 34 你抄袭我的IDEA. 哈哈.
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】
: 楼主请到火星，地球对你来说太危险了
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P***A
发帖数: 483 | 35 不怕铅中毒吗？
【在 b********7 的大作中提到】
: 嗯. 强烈建议大家每天穿铅板防辐射服. 安全还健身. 一举两得.
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b********7
发帖数: 12906 | 36 应该是比辐射照死的要慢一点吧?
【在 P***A 的大作中提到】
: 不怕铅中毒吗？
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d********a
发帖数: 9567 | 37 你就剃个秃瓢，多买两块灯塔牌的胰子，用搓澡巾多搓搓就行了。
得瑟啥呀。 |
z**n
发帖数: 22303 | 38 这个等于是巨大的脏蛋，污染比核弹大几千倍都有可能。且尔诺贝利那个帖子看了没？
【在 R****7 的大作中提到】
: LZ知不知道原来的主要核试验方式之一就是大气层实验，从原子弹发明起将近2000次核
: 试验，其中总有几百次是大气层核试验，中国最后一次大气层核试验是80年。
: 一次核试验的污染要远大于十次核电站泄露吧，现在大家还不是活的好好的，不要杞人
: 忧天啦
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h*********t
发帖数: 147 | 39 我支持楼主的。不是特指这次，而是即使有这种大灾难，政府肯定是不会通知的，要不
简直就乱套了，估计杀人防火都是小事情了。 |
w***8
发帖数: 465 | 40 还能再蠢一点么?
【在 l********y 的大作中提到】
: 日本人死光也是数月之后，你早被辐射到了还以为没关系呢。
: 早说了，大部分人都是不死到临头不知觉的。
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