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Seattle版 - Support needed :Say NO to Newport Hills Shopping Center Re
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N*********l
发帖数: 43
1
https://www.gopetition.com/petitions/say-no-to-newport-hills-shopping-center
-rezone.html
Toll Brothers' request to rezone the Newport Hills Shopping Center and
replace it with a huge amount of housing and a token amount of retail is
wrong. The proposed rezone would circumvent Bellevue's normal planning
process to provide a windfall to the current owner of the shopping center
and to Toll Brothers at the expense of the surrounding community.
Background
Toll Brothers proposes that Bellevue rezone the Newport Hills Shopping
Center so that Toll can build and sell at least 130 "luxury" townhomes and
condo apartments on the site. This would replace the "public square" at the
heart of the long-established Newport Hills neighborhood with infill housing
and reduce the retail space to as little as 13,000 square feet (less than
one-quarter of the current 60,000 square feet – or about half the old “Red
Apple Market” space). Destroying the heart of the neighborhood would be
bad enough, but the proposed development would also have major negative long
-term effects on traffic congestion and school overcrowding.
Details
Contrary to Toll's assertion, the Newport Hills Shopping Center is not
obsolete and has not been "unable to adapt to changing market trends and
demands." At present the shopping center is tenanted by a lively, family-
oriented mix of restaurants, recreation and service businesses, despite its
aging buildings and infrastructure.
Toll Brothers' application asserts it's necessary to upzone the shopping
center parcel to Neighborhood Mixed Use (NMU) because the center cannot be
revitalized under the existing Neighborhood Business (NB) zoning. Toll
claims the existing zoning isn't "flexible" enough to allow successful
redevelopment with a mix of residential and commercial uses. This claim isn'
t justified - NB zoning already permits approximately 85-88 units of housing
to be built on the site, over ground-level retail. The key to Toll's
request is that, unlike NB zoning, NMU zoning would allow the city to waive
much of the requirement for retail/commercial space. Toll is a housing
developer, so their incentive is to maximize the housing they can build and
sell on the site; and the incentive for the current owner of the shopping
center is simply to get the highest price they can for the property. It is
not Newport Hills' obligation to ensure the center owner and developer
achieve maximum profit at the expense of our wonderful neighborhood.
The shopping center property is the geographic and emotional heart of the
Newport Hills neighborhood. The proposed zoning change would allow Toll to
replace the shopping center with a dense housing development containing a
small amount of retail. This change would fundamentally alter the character
of both the specific property and the neighborhood as a whole; therefore the
City should not even consider this zoning change outside the City's own
Neighborhood Area Planning process required under the Growth Management Act.
To Bellevue Planning Commission & City Council:
We ask you to deny Toll Brothers' application for a Comprehensive Plan
Amendment and concurrent rezone for the following reasons
• The application does not satisfy the threshold review criteria.
In particular, the “significantly changed conditions” criteria was not
satisfied. Nothing has changed since the last (2016) rezone application
except there's been increased tenancy and vibrancy at the shopping center,
as well as at other properties in the commercial district.
• The current zoning, Neighborhood Business, accommodates
redevelopment of the shopping center to preserve neighborhood-oriented
retail & services and to allow housing if necessary.
• Neighborhood Mixed Use zoning was created to compliment and
provide housing density for Transit Oriented Development. The shopping
center is nowhere near a TOD, nor are there plans to build one close by.
• A rezone with such far-reaching consequences for the surrounding
community should not be considered outside the Neighborhood Area Plan update
process led by residents, not developers.
An application does NOT= an obligation. Please do the right thing for the
citizens you represent. Make it clear you will not sacrifice Newport Hills
simply to increase Toll Brothers' and Rainier Northwest-University LLC's
profits.
Sincerely,
Friends & Families of Newport Hills
u***n
发帖数: 21026
2
为什么要反对购物中心,买东西方便不好吗?好奇
s**d
发帖数: 258
3
rezone the shopping center
看一下内容

【在 u***n 的大作中提到】
: 为什么要反对购物中心,买东西方便不好吗?好奇
u***n
发帖数: 21026
4
改建为什么不好,好奇

【在 s**d 的大作中提到】
: rezone the shopping center
: 看一下内容

j******m
发帖数: 612
5
一下子增加这么多房子必然影响现住户房价以及公共服务
c******t
发帖数: 944
6
看不懂英文为啥不回国呢

【在 u***n 的大作中提到】
: 改建为什么不好,好奇
u***n
发帖数: 21026
7
你去南部边境问吧,这个我回答不了,要不你去问民主党?

【在 c******t 的大作中提到】
: 看不懂英文为啥不回国呢
y*********u
发帖数: 3664
8
没看出有什么强有力的理由 发展了还不好?

center

【在 N*********l 的大作中提到】
: https://www.gopetition.com/petitions/say-no-to-newport-hills-shopping-center
: -rezone.html
: Toll Brothers' request to rezone the Newport Hills Shopping Center and
: replace it with a huge amount of housing and a token amount of retail is
: wrong. The proposed rezone would circumvent Bellevue's normal planning
: process to provide a windfall to the current owner of the shopping center
: and to Toll Brothers at the expense of the surrounding community.
: Background
: Toll Brothers proposes that Bellevue rezone the Newport Hills Shopping
: Center so that Toll can build and sell at least 130 "luxury" townhomes and

y******2
发帖数: 785
9
那个地方破破烂烂,冷冷清清的,重建了挺好。
h*********t
发帖数: 822
10
你个猪头,没事找事,又被人骂了吧?滚回你的窝里啃翔去。

【在 u***n 的大作中提到】
: 你去南部边境问吧,这个我回答不了,要不你去问民主党?
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y*********u
发帖数: 3664
11
这就是我不理解的地方

【在 y******2 的大作中提到】
: 那个地方破破烂烂,冷冷清清的,重建了挺好。
c******t
发帖数: 944
12
实在看不懂你说什么。

【在 u***n 的大作中提到】
: 你去南部边境问吧,这个我回答不了,要不你去问民主党?
u***n
发帖数: 21026
13
戏精,你又想来表演,他和你一样表演欲很强
你不会你房客刺激了一下就彻底歇斯底里了吧
屁大点事至于吗?

【在 h*********t 的大作中提到】
: 你个猪头,没事找事,又被人骂了吧?滚回你的窝里啃翔去。
u***n
发帖数: 21026
14
IQ不行?你?

【在 c******t 的大作中提到】
: 实在看不懂你说什么。
h*********t
发帖数: 822
15
你个猪头三,张口就喷,见谁喷谁,你还是好好到精神病院看看吧?你这病得吃很多安
定也不见好。

【在 u***n 的大作中提到】
: IQ不行?你?
u***n
发帖数: 21026
16
你吃了很多,治好了?

【在 h*********t 的大作中提到】
: 你个猪头三,张口就喷,见谁喷谁,你还是好好到精神病院看看吧?你这病得吃很多安
: 定也不见好。

c******t
发帖数: 944
17
行不行不知道,跟你的差距不小。

【在 u***n 的大作中提到】
: IQ不行?你?
u***n
发帖数: 21026
18
你很低?差距大不要紧,我们不歧视你

【在 c******t 的大作中提到】
: 行不行不知道,跟你的差距不小。
c******t
发帖数: 944
19
你高兴就好

【在 u***n 的大作中提到】
: 你很低?差距大不要紧,我们不歧视你
u***n
发帖数: 21026
20
这话被你抢先了,你高兴我们也高兴

【在 c******t 的大作中提到】
: 你高兴就好
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c******t
发帖数: 944
21
其实回国吧,真的。这样混下去没啥意思。我是为你好。

【在 u***n 的大作中提到】
: 这话被你抢先了,你高兴我们也高兴
u***n
发帖数: 21026
22
那咋行,你这样条件都混着,我怎么回去

【在 c******t 的大作中提到】
: 其实回国吧,真的。这样混下去没啥意思。我是为你好。
c******t
发帖数: 944
23
嗯,良言。兼听则明。我其实已经算回国了。

【在 u***n 的大作中提到】
: 那咋行,你这样条件都混着,我怎么回去
u***n
发帖数: 21026
24
恩,等你混好了我考虑一下

【在 c******t 的大作中提到】
: 嗯,良言。兼听则明。我其实已经算回国了。
z*********a
发帖数: 335
25
天啦
你智商应该及格的
应该是故意捣乱的吧

【在 u***n 的大作中提到】
: 改建为什么不好,好奇
y*********u
发帖数: 3664
26
哦没仔细看反了 原来是要削减商业面积建房子 一般是扩建商业加建房子 这个比较奇葩

【在 z*********a 的大作中提到】
: 天啦
: 你智商应该及格的
: 应该是故意捣乱的吧

u***n
发帖数: 21026
27
英文太差,看不明白
我一直以为六楼上马冲锋上来能给大家翻译翻译,看他口气应该英文很好
结果板砖扔出几块,一点都没翻译翻译
失望

【在 z*********a 的大作中提到】
: 天啦
: 你智商应该及格的
: 应该是故意捣乱的吧

c******t
发帖数: 944
28
是,怪我咯

【在 u***n 的大作中提到】
: 英文太差,看不明白
: 我一直以为六楼上马冲锋上来能给大家翻译翻译,看他口气应该英文很好
: 结果板砖扔出几块,一点都没翻译翻译
: 失望

g******y
发帖数: 29
29
说实话,我觉得这几点理由写得狗屁不通:
A rezone with such far-reaching consequences for the surrounding
community should not be considered outside the Neighborhood Area Plan update
process led by residents, not developers.
意思是城市规划需要当地居民批准?那他妈为什么不从巴拉德修个桥到那Bainbridge
Island上去,一个新的bellevue出来了。
S*********e
发帖数: 4
30
lol

【在 c******t 的大作中提到】
: 看不懂英文为啥不回国呢
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S*********e
发帖数: 4
31
Toll brother是高级住宅建筑商啊,地区房价应该会提升吧

【在 j******m 的大作中提到】
: 一下子增加这么多房子必然影响现住户房价以及公共服务
w*********o
发帖数: 3030
32
Promoted by yellow dump kissers?
Must be another effort from them to strength the locust image of Chinese
American. I wonder how many of them are even Chinese American to begin with.
u***n
发帖数: 21026
33
那个没预算,人头费都收不上来,哪来的钱造桥,都是你们这帮小气鬼,政府说加税,
你们也不去支持一把,要能把州incoming tax给收上来,西雅图还能建设好一点,桥也
就有了

update

【在 g******y 的大作中提到】
: 说实话,我觉得这几点理由写得狗屁不通:
: A rezone with such far-reaching consequences for the surrounding
: community should not be considered outside the Neighborhood Area Plan update
: process led by residents, not developers.
: 意思是城市规划需要当地居民批准?那他妈为什么不从巴拉德修个桥到那Bainbridge
: Island上去,一个新的bellevue出来了。

c****n
发帖数: 65
34
NO.
S******5
发帖数: 1
35
这个不是什么高级的建商吧,盖的都是联排屋,或者地很小的房子。平均价肯定拉低,
对有房的人的确是坏消息。
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