s********8
发帖数: 725 | 1 Followed is my recent situation:
本人现在纽约附近某排名120左右的学校，化工专业MASTER，打算去NTU读PHD呢。
美国的经济和就业形势仍然非常糟糕。前天刚听我们graduate advisor说我们系由于极
其缺乏FUNDING，今年极有可能不招任何PHD，同时一如既往从大陆招大量Master。
本人厦大本科，目前也申了NTU的SCBE，但是上网查application status，还是your
application is under consideration。刚才看版上很多申请SCBE 人说已经面试并在
Shortlist中。我担心是否已经被拒，毕竟听说是在5月份才统一发拒信和录取通知。虽
然听说面试其实完全是考察英语能力，我现在已经在美国full-time学了2年，所以感觉
应该不会面试我。况且版上多人总结的面试中可能问到的问题，我也都有在Personal
Statement 和resume中详细提及。同时感觉他们对厦大的学生也蛮感兴趣，SCBE的去年
10月人也都有直接去过我本科的系里组织招生考试。
本人目前已经被Ohio U Athens 和City College of New York拒了，原因同样是缺少
funding但是有众多申请人。本人美国硕士的GPA按NTU算法是3.8，厦大的本科的是3.65
，不知道这样是否会比较低。
本人现在正在弄Master Thesis和一篇publication。
同时，父亲的一个在上海某德资企业工作的朋友说他们公司今年刚好大量招人，我非常
适合此项工作。但我还是打算继续读PHD，觉得这样今后才会更加有出头。毕竟上午刚
跟父亲通电话，他说国内的企业更看重本土的研究生，海归硕士无任何优势！不知道
NTU和NUS招生过程中是否也会如此。
最后，我也有联系3到4个教授，问过他们不少关于research field和recent
publications的问题，他们也都说不知道录取的具体情况，并说Hope you can get in.
To conclude，I am still in puzzle,and have the above questions to ask you
all.
Thanks very much for help and have a good future! |
s********8
发帖数: 725 | 2 本人是楼主，我曾经给好像是SCBE管research招生的一个人TAN Lay Yen发了如下两封
信，现在看来，估计很可能是它们断送了我的命运，What's your opinion?：
date： Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 4:08 PM
subject： The reasons why I would choose NTU rather than a school in
the USA :
Greetings!
Dear Mr. TAN Lay Yen
I am an applicant of the 2011 Fall admission of Chemical Engineering PHD in
NTU. I finished my undergraduate study in Xiamen University in China,and I
am currently doing my Master study in New Jersey Institute of Technology in
the USA.I will finish my Master Thesis and graduate in May this year.
For the following reasons,if I receive offers from both the USA and
Singapore,instead of the schools in the USA,I will choose NTU to continue my
PHD study in Chemical Engineering:
First, as a globally top 100 university, it enjoys excellence both in
teaching and research.At the same time it's much easier for me to be
admitted to enjoy such grace and excellence compared to a school in the USA
with a similar global rank.
Second,USA is going down and decaying.The future economic center,I believe
will be the Asia-Pacific area.I strongly want to go back to China to work.I
have to learn to generate creative ideas through integration of Oriental and
Occidental ideas,and know more about the working environment in Asia and
China.Also,such combination can help me generate innovative ideas required
as a PHD researcher.
Third,most professors in your department are young and energetic.Although
they're a bit less than ten years older than me,they can teach me new and
innovative ideas helpful in my academic and professional development.And
there should not be much gap between me and my adviser in NTU,which is also
probably because both of us are from Asia.
Fourth,as the economic situation in the USA still shows minor trend of
recovery from the recession,most schools including my current school are
suffering from lack of required funding for research.Due to this,many PHD
students,though still unable to meet the degree requirements,have been urged
by their academic departments to graduate immediately. After all,the
department has to try all effort to reduce their costs by declining the
tuition and assistanceships to their PHD students. At the same time, the
economic situation in Singapore is coming up with exciting rate,providing me
much less worry about my PHD financial sources.
Fifth,the official language of Singapore is also English,and like the
schools in the USA, NTU's only instructing language is also English.So NTU
enjoys all advantages provided by a top school in the USA.
Sixth,if I have got experience of studying abroad in two countries
completely different from each other,I would enjoy stronger competence in
job market.
Last,Singapore has convenient,quick-paced and dynamic atmosphere as a modern
International city.It's safe to study in.Also it's near to my home in
Guangzhou, Guangdong.It would be convenient for me to go back to China to
see my parents and my friends when feeling lonely or frustrated.
Therefore,unlike most applicants from China Mainland,I am not treating NTU
merely as a guarantee,nor do I just to save money or enjoy comfortable life.
Instead,I believe I have used my best effort to apply to NTU,and I have
already been treating NTU as the best school I should try to apply to.
After all,from a Master degree in the USA,what I have gained most is
confidence,together with belief in my personal decisions. It's because I am
sure I have developed my critical thinking and discerning to the public
ideas from other people,which is essentially required in my research work
and publishing innovative papers.
Thanks very much for your keen attention,and best wishes!
在收到拒信之前的第二天，我又发了另外一封信：
Greetings!
Dear Ms. TAN Lay Yen
I am the Chinese guy with a Bachelor degree from Xiamen U. in China,and
currently a Master student in NJIT in New Jersey in the USA.
Last week I have heard from one of my friends,a current PHD student in NTU,
that if all my financial supports are from the fundings of my PHD advisor,I
would not require interview.But if some of my financial supports are from
NTU research scholarship,I would have to take an interview by the department
.Here I am wondering about the main source of financial supports for a PHD
student in SCBE.
Then,I have already been rejected by all the top schools that I have applied
in the USA,or accepted without any financial aid.After all,most schools has
greatly shrieked PHD enrollment due to financial crises.At the same time,
due to the still high unemployment in the USA,the total amount of applicants
are much more than ever.So the government requires the PHD enrollment also
give the USA residents and citizens priority.
Also,due to severe depletion of required fundings to support a PHD student,
my current department will not accept any new PHD student this year.Although
I have already been admitted by two schools ranked by USNEWS to be about
200 in the USA,I don't want to waste 4 years of my valuable young time in a
pedestrian school.So if given me an offer to NTU,I would surely give NTU a
priority!
Best wishes |
s********8
发帖数: 725 | 3 我是楼主：
今天我才突然知道，我美国剩下的两所学校（本校和亚利桑那大学），和分别在另外两
所学校的两个教授那里，我也是都是在waiting list当中，而且两个教授那里都是若干
人申请仅有的一个open position。我在其他学校都已经被拒。
因此我想在抓紧在国内找工作的同时，也尝试申请下包括NUS和香港理工在内的明年春
季入学。
大家认为，NUS和NTU还有香港理工的化学化工类专业PHD，哪个难申请？
毕竟美国这边经济尚未复苏，国际学生没有PHD找工作也是难上加难，More important,
教授也是非常难申请funding来support新的PHD。 |
w*****1
发帖数: 207 | 4 "但我还是打算继续读PHD，觉得这样今后才会更加有出头。"
那别来新加坡读呀，这是往火坑里跳，这边的人还拼命往美国跑呢 |
y********t
发帖数: 280 | 5 额。。您是不是曾经想要申纽约的某个学校的一位同学？？ |
j**********g
发帖数: 793 | |
c****i
发帖数: 7933 | 7 看了半天才知道原來不是國立台灣大學。
另外，你把自己那些信每行的各種語法錯誤改一改，可能會好一些。 |
n*****s
发帖数: 6495 | 8 you need to improve your English |
p*******n
发帖数: 2697 | 9 别说管招生的，咱们逛论坛都都没心情看你那么长的一封信
而且一次是Mr，一是Ms，肯定错了一个
还有，你美国申好一点，学校就会有funding了 |
a****n
发帖数: 3082 | |
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n*******r
发帖数: 258 | |
x******g
发帖数: 33885 | 12 "Second,USA is going down and decaying."
LOL
You're dead meat for saying something like that. |
x******d
发帖数: 63 | 13 大坑。。。。
跳一个吧，都master了，你觉得哪个老板有时间看你的那么多理由，都是废话 |
l***m
发帖数: 920 | 14 LMAO, your emails seem to regard them as garbage collector. |
v******y
发帖数: 4134 | 15 楼主应该让人改一下自己的申请信的，语法错太多了，原则上是一看到这种申请信马上
就会扔到垃圾箱里不再多看
何况PHD是要给你奖学金的，所以现在竞争很激烈的
楼上的那些大惊小怪的都是些伤不起的，楼主只是个在美国自费MS的而已，他想拿任何
地方的奖学金都很难，所以能拿到新加坡的奖学金对他来说的确是很不错的机会了，不
存在什么从美国过来新加坡是走错了方向 |
c****d
发帖数: 47 | 16 我的感觉，那封邮件有点像国内学生作文，居然能写到SIXTH这样的段落。如果是我，
不会有太多耐心去读完。楼主可能自己感觉也是对的，即那邮件断送了机会。
另外，楼主的父亲说的没错，如果不考虑“我爸是李刚”这样的额外因素，海归的硕士通常在国内占不到便宜，除非你在大公司对口实习过，否则可能还不如国内985的硕士或本科生。
博士的话，我听同学讲，如果不是名校博士，或者专业领域内比较强的大学出来的，国内也不好找工作。 |
N****O
发帖数: 4202 | 17 是啊，美国going down了，新加坡怎么活?
【在 x******g 的大作中提到】
: "Second,USA is going down and decaying."
: LOL
: You're dead meat for saying something like that.
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s*****o
发帖数: 1540 | 18 我居然看完了楼主的两封信，然后笑崩了。
楼主写的都是什么啊？申请南洋理工的7大理由？
At the same time it's much easier for me to be admitted to enjoy such grace
and excellence compared to a school in the USA with a similar global rank.
就是说，南洋理工好混。哈哈。这是什么理由啊？
Second,USA is going down and decaying.。。and know more about the working
environment。。。such combination can help me generate innovative ideas
required
as a PHD researcher。
就是说，美国完蛋了，我待不下去了。一个更加亚洲化的环境能让我的PHD研究思如泉
涌。这不是扯蛋么？
there should not be much gap between me and my adviser in NTU,which is also
probably because both of us are from Asia
典型的种族论调啊。不是在白人老大哥这里混不下去的证据么？
many PHD students,though still unable to meet the degree requirements,have
been urged
by their academic departments to graduate immediately.
你以为你是谁啊？指点上美国的PHD该不该，够不够毕业条件了？
It would be convenient for me to go back to China to see my parents。
这也是理由啊？
unlike most applicants from China Mainland,I am not treating NTU merely as a
guarantee
你把堂堂南洋理工的领导的面子放在何处啊？瞧瞧啊，别人都把你们这个鸟不拉屎的学
校当成了备胎，只有我把它当成了首选。所以，选我吧。
楼主真是当代第一脑残啊！！！上面一封狗屁不通的信，还洋洋得意。说话听音，这个
斯的信我看完就直接据！！！！
in
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【在 s********8 的大作中提到】
: 本人是楼主，我曾经给好像是SCBE管research招生的一个人TAN Lay Yen发了如下两封
: 信，现在看来，估计很可能是它们断送了我的命运，What's your opinion?：
: date： Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 4:08 PM
: subject： The reasons why I would choose NTU rather than a school in
: the USA :
:
: Greetings!
: Dear Mr. TAN Lay Yen
: I am an applicant of the 2011 Fall admission of Chemical Engineering PHD in
: NTU. I finished my undergraduate study in Xiamen University in China,and I
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l**********n
发帖数: 8443 | 19 what a personal statement. amazing! |
e****d
发帖数: 110 | 20 不得不说比较愚蠢的书信。确实很多语法错误。不过楼主写作能力还是很强的，俺是写
不出这么长的书信。
厦大化学系吧，咱们校友 |
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T******Q
发帖数: 207 | |
z******5
发帖数: 1110 | |
s*****o
发帖数: 1540 | 23 厦门大学本科，NJIT master。很容易人肉的吧？ |
m******y
发帖数: 397 | |
L******e
发帖数: 679 | 25 The main problem of LZ's letters is not 语法错太多. The letters indicated
that LZ is a very anormal person!!
Even though in Chinese, how could a guy write letters like these?
【在 v******y 的大作中提到】
: 楼主应该让人改一下自己的申请信的，语法错太多了，原则上是一看到这种申请信马上
: 就会扔到垃圾箱里不再多看
: 何况PHD是要给你奖学金的，所以现在竞争很激烈的
: 楼上的那些大惊小怪的都是些伤不起的，楼主只是个在美国自费MS的而已，他想拿任何
: 地方的奖学金都很难，所以能拿到新加坡的奖学金对他来说的确是很不错的机会了，不
: 存在什么从美国过来新加坡是走错了方向
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c****s
发帖数: 395 | 26 very desperate, calm down first, one thing at a time |
A****Y
发帖数: 993 | |
l*****e
发帖数: 701 | 28 我们排名七十的学校也说不给funding了，不过不排除老黑advisor不喜欢中国人的可能
。。
【在 s********8 的大作中提到】
: Followed is my recent situation:
: 本人现在纽约附近某排名120左右的学校，化工专业MASTER，打算去NTU读PHD呢。
: 美国的经济和就业形势仍然非常糟糕。前天刚听我们graduate advisor说我们系由于极
: 其缺乏FUNDING，今年极有可能不招任何PHD，同时一如既往从大陆招大量Master。
: 本人厦大本科，目前也申了NTU的SCBE，但是上网查application status，还是your
: application is under consideration。刚才看版上很多申请SCBE 人说已经面试并在
: Shortlist中。我担心是否已经被拒，毕竟听说是在5月份才统一发拒信和录取通知。虽
: 然听说面试其实完全是考察英语能力，我现在已经在美国full-time学了2年，所以感觉
: 应该不会面试我。况且版上多人总结的面试中可能问到的问题，我也都有在Personal
: Statement 和resume中详细提及。同时感觉他们对厦大的学生也蛮感兴趣，SCBE的去年
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s*********y
发帖数: 689 | |
a****0
发帖数: 509 | |
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L*****s
发帖数: 24744 | 31 化学 & 化工 are all futureless.. |
E****a
发帖数: 829 | 32 看到这句就觉得不厚道地笑了。。
a Master student in NJIT in New Jersey in the USA.
好像rap~ In In In~ |
t*******d
发帖数: 1186 | 33 我是外行，冒昧地问一句，那些石油化工厂，不是需要大量的人才么？
【在 L*****s 的大作中提到】
: 化学 & 化工 are all futureless..
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t*****e
发帖数: 3287 | 34 这话从何说起
化工可是支柱产业
【在 L*****s 的大作中提到】
: 化学 & 化工 are all futureless..
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